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Posted: 1/6/2023 10:49:46 PM EDT
In its complaint, Judicial Watch explained to the court that it had asked all three government agencies for all records relating to the billeting of Byrd at Joint Base Andrews during the period from January 6, 2021, to July 2022, including authorization papers, housing, meals, transportation, and visitor logs. The documents show that Lieutenant Byrd and a pet stayed in a "Distinguished Visitor Suite" at the "Presidential Inn" (part of Air Force Inns) under a "Capitol Police Presidential Inn Reservation" for the period July 8, 2021, through January 28, 2022. Judicial Watch was informed by a representative at Joint Base Andrews that a "Distinguished Visitor Suite" is typically reserved for officers at the rank of O-7 (Brigadier General or higher.). View Quote https://www.judicialwatch.org/taxpayer-dollars-spent-to-house-ashli-babbitt-shooter/ |
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Did you think the feds in camo would treat their brothers in polos and khakis any different?
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Police shootings of unarmed citizens seemed so incendiary around that time. One can only wonder why this one seems so different.
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Quoted: Murdering women for the feds pays well. View Quote So, just how is Lon doing these days? Or anyone at Waco? I mean, Lon allegedly lives in San Antonio, and I haven't bothered to track him further. So it goes with most of these people. They get to die in bed. Until they don't. Which both, I haven't seen and we'll no doubt denigrate the actors when it actually happens. |
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Quoted: Police shootings of unarmed citizens seemed so incendiary around that time. One can only wonder why this one seems so different. View Quote |
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Murder a patriot and get pampered for months.
Yep, that's our government for you |
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The two officers a few feet away from Babbit probably wanted a piece of him.
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She kept crawling through a window after someone with a gun on the inside told her to stop.
Same thing that would happen at my house. She committed suicide. |
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Hell is too good for the enemies of America that infest the government.
They deserve worse, for longer. |
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Quoted: And in California you'd go to prison for it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: She kept crawling through a window after someone with a gun on the inside told her to stop. Same thing that would happen at my house. She committed suicide. GD was cheering this just last night. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Boyfriend-gets-shot-forcing-himself-into-home--/5-2614125/?page=1 |
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Quoted: Irrelevant what would happen at your house. It was unjustifiable homicide. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: She kept crawling through a window after someone with a gun on the inside told her to stop. Same thing that would happen at my house. She committed suicide. Irrelevant what would happen at your house. It was unjustifiable homicide. Last I heard he was cleared, making it justified whether you like it or not. I will never understand why this site gets their panties in a twist over this particular shooting. It was stupid on her part and her own actions got her killed |
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I hope that for the rest of his life he has to walk around constantly looking over his shoulder for fear of someone from her family wanting retaliation.
One of the more recent video released that I saw shows her punching the antifa thug in the face after he was breaking out the windows with his helmet just before she jumped onto the window sill. |
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Quoted: Last I heard he was cleared, making it justified whether you like it or not. I will never understand why this site gets their panties in a twist over this particular shooting. It was stupid on her part and her own actions got her killed View Quote No it was unjustified. A corrupt system does not make it justified anymore than the nazis. You could argue she was stupid, but not that she did anything justifying use of lethal force. |
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Quoted: No it was unjustified. A corrupt system does not make it justified anymore than the nazis. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Last I heard he was cleared, making it justified whether you like it or not. I will never understand why this site gets their panties in a twist over this particular shooting. It was stupid on her part and her own actions got her killed No it was unjustified. A corrupt system does not make it justified anymore than the nazis. Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that’s a good shoot all day long. |
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View Quote Now they are hiding and protecting the criminals. |
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Quoted: Not its not, you are lying. Are you evil? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that’s a good shoot all day long. Not its not, you are lying. Are you evil? Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I’d have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. |
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Quoted: Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that's a good shoot all day long. View Quote If she'd been some unarmed black girl with. Che Guevara shirt on that cops would be in a cell. He only got a pass because is suited the political goals of Biden and the DOJ to have her killed. There wasn't any risk to life, what lethal force justification would you use for this? |
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Ex Tries To Break Down Door And Gets Shot |
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Quoted: Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I’d have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that’s a good shoot all day long. Not its not, you are lying. Are you evil? Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I’d have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. Theres no logic. He was a law enforcement officer, in the peoples house, who shot a unarmed women in a compromised position in which she posed no possible immediate threat to anyone. There were multiple options short of lethal force that could have and should have been used. Only evil can justify it. You made your choice. |
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So he shoots an unarmed prior USAF officer and the USAF puts him in their best hotel for 6 months.....
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Quoted: Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I'd have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. View Quote If I flipped out over a parking ticket and kicked in the window*at city hall and climbed over the counter you think the city cops would get away with shooting me (well maybe in Utah ha ha)? *I mean like an interior window over the counter |
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Quoted: What? It's no one's house. If she'd been some unarmed black girl with. Che Guevara shirt on that cops would be in a cell. He only got a pass because is suited the political goals of Biden and the DOJ to have her killed. There wasn't any risk to life, what lethal force justification would you use for this? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that's a good shoot all day long. If she'd been some unarmed black girl with. Che Guevara shirt on that cops would be in a cell. He only got a pass because is suited the political goals of Biden and the DOJ to have her killed. There wasn't any risk to life, what lethal force justification would you use for this? You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. |
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Quoted: Climbing through a broken interior window in a governmental building isn't a residential burglary. That's a completely different kettle of fish. If I flipped out over a parking ticket and kicked in the window*at city hall and climbed over the counter you think the city cops would get away with shooting me (well maybe in Utah ha ha)? *I mean like an interior window over the counter View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I'd have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. If I flipped out over a parking ticket and kicked in the window*at city hall and climbed over the counter you think the city cops would get away with shooting me (well maybe in Utah ha ha)? *I mean like an interior window over the counter Depends, would they and other officers in the same situation be reasonable in believing you were going to cause serious bodily injury to themselves or a third party? Would I shoot, probably not. Are there scenarios where that is a justified shoot? Yes All use of force incidents are scrutinized under various case law but it boils down to a couple things, one, these incidents are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving. Officers do not have the advantage of hindsight so when scrutinizing the outcome, neither do we. |
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Quoted: You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. View Quote No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. |
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Quoted: No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. Not all shootings go to grand jury https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt The above indicates there was indeed an investigation |
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Quoted: Not all shootings go to grand jury https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt The above indicates there was indeed an investigation View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. Not all shootings go to grand jury https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt The above indicates there was indeed an investigation Not credible. You are insane if you are trying to argue it was a justified use of lethal force. You should reconsider owning firearms. |
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Quoted: Not credible. You are insane if you are trying to argue it was a justified use of lethal force. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. Not all shootings go to grand jury https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt The above indicates there was indeed an investigation Not credible. You are insane if you are trying to argue it was a justified use of lethal force. Not up to me, that determination has been made Ah, got you before the edit. I’ll gladly keep my guns thank you. It’s hard to work without them |
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Quoted: Depends, would they and other officers in the same situation be reasonable in believing you were going to cause serious bodily injury to themselves or a third party? Would I shoot, probably not. Are there scenarios where that is a justified shoot? Yes All use of force incidents are scrutinized under various case law but it boils down to a couple things, one, these incidents are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving. Officers do not after the advantage of hindsight so when scrutinizing the outcome, neither do we. View Quote But we saw a video and it was just one apparently unarmed woman that he could have punched into next week. If you were retired and took a job with the state AG or evaluating civil claims and saw this video from some county court house or county legislature building in Bullwhip, Wyoming don't you think you'd be going "oh that's bad?" |
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