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Posted: 1/6/2023 10:52:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Murdering women for the feds pays well.
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Posted: 1/6/2023 10:53:53 PM EDT
[#2]
This country is so fucked up that I barely recognize it.
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Posted: 1/6/2023 10:54:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Did you think the feds in camo would treat their brothers in polos and khakis any different?
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Posted: 1/6/2023 10:55:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Its good to be one of the king's men...
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Posted: 1/6/2023 10:56:27 PM EDT
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Police shootings of unarmed citizens seemed so incendiary around that time. One can only wonder why this one seems so different.
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Posted: 1/6/2023 10:58:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Wow.
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Posted: 1/6/2023 10:59:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/6/2023 10:59:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Murdering women for the feds pays well. So, just how is Lon doing these days? Or anyone at Waco? I mean, Lon allegedly lives in San Antonio, and I haven't bothered to track him further. So it goes with most of these people. They get to die in bed. Until they don't. Which both, I haven't seen and we'll no doubt denigrate the actors when it actually happens. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 11:06:45 PM EDT
[#9]
Praying for Karma
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Posted: 1/6/2023 11:35:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Police shootings of unarmed citizens seemed so incendiary around that time. One can only wonder why this one seems so different. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 11:37:54 PM EDT
[#11]
Someone should really do something!
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Posted: 1/6/2023 11:42:51 PM EDT
[#12]
Murder a patriot and get pampered for months.
Yep, that's our government for you |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 11:46:04 PM EDT
[#13]
The two officers a few feet away from Babbit probably wanted a piece of him.
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Posted: 1/6/2023 11:49:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Murdering women for the feds pays well. @LonHoriuchi |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 11:51:47 PM EDT
[#15]
classic power play lmao.
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Posted: 1/6/2023 11:54:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:09:20 AM EDT
[#17]
Judicial Watch is the shit
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:10:56 AM EDT
[#18]
Fuck that racist piece of shit
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:11:10 AM EDT
[#19]
She kept crawling through a window after someone with a gun on the inside told her to stop.
Same thing that would happen at my house. She committed suicide. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:12:35 AM EDT
[#20]
It's a big club
And you ain't in it |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:13:16 AM EDT
[#21]
Hell is too good for the enemies of America that infest the government.
They deserve worse, for longer. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:14:39 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its good to be one of the king's men... |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:14:57 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She kept crawling through a window after someone with a gun on the inside told her to stop. Same thing that would happen at my house. She committed suicide. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:18:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She kept crawling through a window after someone with a gun on the inside told her to stop. Same thing that would happen at my house. She committed suicide. Got another one |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:20:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And in California you'd go to prison for it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She kept crawling through a window after someone with a gun on the inside told her to stop. Same thing that would happen at my house. She committed suicide. GD was cheering this just last night. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Boyfriend-gets-shot-forcing-himself-into-home--/5-2614125/?page=1 |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:22:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She kept crawling through a window after someone with a gun on the inside told her to stop. Same thing that would happen at my house. She committed suicide. Irrelevant what would happen at your house. It was unjustifiable homicide. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:26:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Irrelevant what would happen at your house. It was unjustifiable homicide. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She kept crawling through a window after someone with a gun on the inside told her to stop. Same thing that would happen at my house. She committed suicide. Irrelevant what would happen at your house. It was unjustifiable homicide. Last I heard he was cleared, making it justified whether you like it or not. I will never understand why this site gets their panties in a twist over this particular shooting. It was stupid on her part and her own actions got her killed |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:28:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:28:56 AM EDT
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I hope that for the rest of his life he has to walk around constantly looking over his shoulder for fear of someone from her family wanting retaliation.
 One of the more recent video released that I saw shows her punching the antifa thug in the face after he was breaking out the windows with his helmet just before she jumped onto the window sill. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:30:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last I heard he was cleared, making it justified whether you like it or not. I will never understand why this site gets their panties in a twist over this particular shooting. It was stupid on her part and her own actions got her killed No it was unjustified. A corrupt system does not make it justified anymore than the nazis. You could argue she was stupid, but not that she did anything justifying use of lethal force. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:32:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No it was unjustified. A corrupt system does not make it justified anymore than the nazis. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last I heard he was cleared, making it justified whether you like it or not. I will never understand why this site gets their panties in a twist over this particular shooting. It was stupid on her part and her own actions got her killed No it was unjustified. A corrupt system does not make it justified anymore than the nazis. Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that’s a good shoot all day long. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:33:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI think you're missing the point. In the past, the feds hid and protected witnesses who were going to testify against criminals in court. Now they are hiding and protecting the criminals. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:33:48 AM EDT
[#33]
So who exactly authorized and made that happen?
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:34:28 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that’s a good shoot all day long. Not its not, you are lying. Are you evil? |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:40:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not its not, you are lying. Are you evil? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that’s a good shoot all day long. Not its not, you are lying. Are you evil? Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I’d have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:43:55 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that's a good shoot all day long. If she'd been some unarmed black girl with. Che Guevara shirt on that cops would be in a cell. He only got a pass because is suited the political goals of Biden and the DOJ to have her killed. There wasn't any risk to life, what lethal force justification would you use for this? |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:44:40 AM EDT
[#37]
 Ex Tries To Break Down Door And Gets Shot |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:45:21 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I’d have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that’s a good shoot all day long. Not its not, you are lying. Are you evil? Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I’d have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. Theres no logic. He was a law enforcement officer, in the peoples house, who shot a unarmed women in a compromised position in which she posed no possible immediate threat to anyone. There were multiple options short of lethal force that could have and should have been used. Only evil can justify it. You made your choice. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:46:41 AM EDT
[#39]
So he shoots an unarmed prior USAF officer and the USAF puts him in their best hotel for 6 months.....
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:46:58 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I'd have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. If I flipped out over a parking ticket and kicked in the window*at city hall and climbed over the counter you think the city cops would get away with shooting me (well maybe in Utah ha ha)? *I mean like an interior window over the counter |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:49:31 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What? It's no one's house. If she'd been some unarmed black girl with. Che Guevara shirt on that cops would be in a cell. He only got a pass because is suited the political goals of Biden and the DOJ to have her killed. There wasn't any risk to life, what lethal force justification would you use for this? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good thing your opinion matters for exactly zilch in legal proceedings. As others have posted, even in my home, let alone a government building, that's a good shoot all day long. If she'd been some unarmed black girl with. Che Guevara shirt on that cops would be in a cell. He only got a pass because is suited the political goals of Biden and the DOJ to have her killed. There wasn't any risk to life, what lethal force justification would you use for this? You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:50:14 AM EDT
[#42]
She's dead?
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:51:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Climbing through a broken interior window in a governmental building isn't a residential burglary. That's a completely different kettle of fish. If I flipped out over a parking ticket and kicked in the window*at city hall and climbed over the counter you think the city cops would get away with shooting me (well maybe in Utah ha ha)? *I mean like an interior window over the counter Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Colorado law says if someone makes illegal entry into my home and I feel they may do me harm, no matter how slight, deadly force is authorized. Now add that to a secure building, housing our nations government. Like it or not, I'd have a very hard time calling it unjustified and guess what, it was indeed deemed justified. Not evil, just logical. Take a step back from your anger and look at the situation through emotionless lenses. If I flipped out over a parking ticket and kicked in the window*at city hall and climbed over the counter you think the city cops would get away with shooting me (well maybe in Utah ha ha)? *I mean like an interior window over the counter Depends, would they and other officers in the same situation be reasonable in believing you were going to cause serious bodily injury to themselves or a third party? Would I shoot, probably not. Are there scenarios where that is a justified shoot? Yes All use of force incidents are scrutinized under various case law but it boils down to a couple things, one, these incidents are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving. Officers do not have the advantage of hindsight so when scrutinizing the outcome, neither do we. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:51:41 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:55:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. Not all shootings go to grand jury https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt The above indicates there was indeed an investigation |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:56:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not all shootings go to grand jury https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt The above indicates there was indeed an investigation Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. Not all shootings go to grand jury https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt The above indicates there was indeed an investigation Not credible. You are insane if you are trying to argue it was a justified use of lethal force. You should reconsider owning firearms. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:58:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not credible. You are insane if you are trying to argue it was a justified use of lethal force. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You’re a lawyer, presumably a decent one. If he’s cleared of any wrong doing what does it make the shooting, legally justified or unjustified? Sorry but she made poor decisions and paid the ultimate price. Again, as in the example I gave there does not always have to be risk to life to justify deadly force. Wether we like it or not, the government has always had “lines in the sand” where if they’re crossed safeties come off. No he was not cleared by a credible body. There wasn't even a grand jury or investigation. Not all shootings go to grand jury https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt The above indicates there was indeed an investigation Not credible. You are insane if you are trying to argue it was a justified use of lethal force. Not up to me, that determination has been made Ah, got you before the edit. I’ll gladly keep my guns thank you. It’s hard to work without them |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:58:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Depends, would they and other officers in the same situation be reasonable in believing you were going to cause serious bodily injury to themselves or a third party? Would I shoot, probably not. Are there scenarios where that is a justified shoot? Yes All use of force incidents are scrutinized under various case law but it boils down to a couple things, one, these incidents are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving. Officers do not after the advantage of hindsight so when scrutinizing the outcome, neither do we. But we saw a video and it was just one apparently unarmed woman that he could have punched into next week. If you were retired and took a job with the state AG or evaluating civil claims and saw this video from some county court house or county legislature building in Bullwhip, Wyoming don't you think you'd be going "oh that's bad?" |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:59:44 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not up to me, that determination has been made So what? Doesn't make it anymore justified than any other criminal act sanctioned for corrupt political purposes. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 1:01:30 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not up to me, that determination has been made Ah, got you before the edit. I’ll gladly keep my guns thank you. It’s hard to work without them Oh so you are in the wrong line of work then. |
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