Patriot???!

If I’m on ignore I guess you won’t see this. I disagree with a handful of folks on this one topic and suddenly I’m a lefty? That’s hilarious. Off this site, 99% of the die hard conservatives I know agree with me about J6

You mean exactly like how this site and GD treat those in my profession day in and day out?

Yes

There are certainly better ways to stop an unarmed woman from entering a window.
They could have detained her once she got through.
They could have kept her out of the building, altogether, if they really wanted to.
What she was trying to do was illegal and ill advised.
If only other law breakers were dealt with in the same manner we'd have a huge reduction in
criminals and crime.
Byrd shot her in the neck. He should be arrested and tried.

I’ll leave it at

Good day Agent

Byrd should have been arrested, tried and executed already. Fuck him and his handlers.

its sad really. what i'd like to know and will never get the answer to, was he angry or scared? which emotion (or mix percentage) motivated him to shoot her as some squeezed through the window?

basically i think this statement sums it all up..

she was making a move, and he had to get it on

as to the entire jan6 event. riots are dangerous things, mobs are unpredictable and responses to mobs are just as unpredictable and dangerous. mob action almost never gets anything accomplished and the winning  side almost always makes examples of the losers.

im very curious as to what folks believe would have happened if the result of the jan6 riot had resulted in the certification of biden being halted. what would have come next? my guess is they would have flooded dc with the mil, and arrested trump and dc would have been placed on lockdown. the rioters would have been rounded up in mass. once the electoral college voted, biden was the president elect. no other legal result could have followed. if trump had been able to retain the reigns of power, the united states as defined by the constitution would have ceased to exist. basically 'burn it all down' would have happened. and nothing but chaos would have followed. to folks here, is that an acceptable alternative to biden being sworn in?

what mechanism is there to address the issue of a stolen election?? I don't know that it was stolen. Assuming that it was. I didn't do any research into this matter, just asking hypothetically.

seat back and hope the results come out correct in 4 years?

AR15 Generäl Discüssion Dëplöräblës Clüb ?? Ashli Babitt edition

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Byrd was not alone on his side.

A show of force was appropriate, not a single shot from concealment.

Line up at the barricade, build a better barricade using furniture, signal that is the line, and hold the line, don't leave it ambiguous. And the first person to stick a body part through gets a beating.

A wood and glass doorway does not spell "deadly force beyond this point."

Kharn

Byrd should live the rest of his life in fear. And if there is justice in this world, then ultimately he should find out that his fear was justified.

you present evidence in courts, they rule accordingly. somewhat similar to the hanging chad event when bush and gore contested the results of the  votes. court eventually determined that bush go the most votes.

this happened BEFORE the electoral college met. that meeting determined who was president.

trump's recourse was to present evidence that the counts were wrong. the court ruling in trumps favor would have done recounts or thrown out invalid ballots. this did not happen in a single instance. despite the lack of any real evidence, folks still believe and that the election was stolen. this had to happen prior to the electoral college voting. i assume that even if biden got 100 percent  of the vote, that if the electoral college had voted trump into the presidency, he would legally be president. bottom line, once the electoral college voted, the election was a done done and only the 'ceremony' of the certification of the electoral college votes and the swearing in remained.

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Fuck outta here, DU troll

This,   within seconds after the shoot armed CHP show up on her side of the doors ?   Byrd did it w/o remorse,   did he ever say  "I shot too soon , the situation would have resolved itself " ?

They are the target customer here. Have been for a good while now.. Get used to it.

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Something just popped into my mind. Byrd was in a suit. He was not a uniformed Capital cop in riot gear. He was supposed to be security INSIDE the chambers (or whatever its called). There is video of him inside the chambers waving his gun around.  Why did he feel it necessary to leave his area of responsibility and go out in the hall "where the action" was? There were riot police in the hall. Shouldn't he have stayed at his post and protected those in his charge, not out looking for trouble? Why was this never brought up? (we know why)

Only a fucking moron would have made their way into the Capital building with that group. If it isn't obvious the character of the people that were going in the Capital that day from the photos then some of you are beyond help.

That doesn't mean I think she deserved to get shot by that cop who should definitely turn in his badge for incompetence.

...but that doesn't mean she was murdered either.

The reality is she played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.  Zero fucks given for her from me - much like I'd have ZFG for any left-wing idiot that gets into a confrontation with a cop where it goes poorly.

...because he was an incompetent stooge and his ego wrote a check that his skills couldn't cash.

I’m sorry your feel goods got hurt

And Honored with Gold Medals

Probably already been pointed out by now, but it's hard to believe this lie is still being perpetuated by (assumedly) non communists.

Lt. Michael Byrd gave no warning. He hid in the corner, waiting in ambush. When she stuck her head through the window, he leaned out and shot her without uttering a word.

Any other police shooting, this murderer would've been immediately charged and hauled into jail. They probably would've let BLM burn down the Capitol building after, too. Instead, he gets the presidential treatment.

Jan 6th was the biggest government entrapment operation in our country's history, and they've been trying to use it for full effect. Or am I to believe that it was totally a coincidence that the FBI just happened to have "storming the Michigan state Capitol" as a part of their Whitmer fednapping entrapment plot? You think the FBI is on to that bomber yet? They can't even find the guy when he was IIRC on video with his phone.

It's also interesting that known BLM activist John Solomon just happened to be there filming while dressed as a Trump supporter. He was there screaming at the other cops to get out of the way - which they did and then told people to go inside; after which, Ashli was murdered. Again, the FBI has no interest in arresting him for Jan 6th, for some reason.

You could try the courts, like an America.  Oh wait, every single case was BS.  Perhaps, just perhaps, your guy just plain lost by a sliver.

Maybe TROY will hire Michael Byrd when he retires from his celebrated law enforcement career.

Nailed it.

Add in Pelosi's daughter was on the  Capitol grounds as well as other media,   do they get some special clearance to trespass ?

muh insurrection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Three years ago at 2:44PM, I watched an unarmed woman (Ashli Babbitt)— get shot and killed in front of me.

This single handily changed my life forever. Even though it’s been three years, it feels like it was just yesterday. The J6th committee refused to speak with me.

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Click on it to view the full thread, in which he details his experience leading up to Ashli's murder.

Yeah, make that statement under oath when you just shot a home intruder. See how it turns out.

Do you mean John Sullivan, the guy BLM PNG’d? Who various BLM chapters said not to associate with because he was a danger to their cause?

I don’t have any hope of the GOP putting info like this into the record by holding their own hearings and tbh even if they did no one would ever know since the media wouldn’t cover it.

Inner perimeter vs. outer perimeter.  Last line of defense vs. first line of defense.  They are different and everyone knows it even though some pretend otherwise.  Somebody made the comparison to someone kicking in your front door.  This is wrong.  The appropriate comparison is they are already in the house and are now kicking in the bedroom door.

Good day Double Agent.  How much does that pay?

I didn't claim that Byrd knew and it is irrelevant anyway.  Only that the claim that Babbitt was unarmed is false.  Strangely enough the "unarmed" meme is constantly repeated by those who claim she was murdered either out of ignorance or dishonesty and both options impeach their credibility and conclusions.

"He was not alone" and "armed CHP show up within seconds" are mutually exclusive statements.  They were still on the stairs with people between them and Babbitt and were completely outside of Byrd's view when she penetrated the barricade.  Byrd was the only defender on his side of the barricade so far as I know.

A firearm visibly pointed at the entry point Babbitt used and announced by other rioters isn't a show of force?  You learn something new every day!

Byrd was not hidden.  He was partially behind cover.  He was spotted with his gun out and several of the mob shouted about him having a gun a few moments before Babbitt FAFOd.  Byrd also stepped out from cover completely exposing himself to the mob when he fired.  Claiming that he was "hidden" and "in ambush" are false.

Even if he did not give verbal warning no reasonable person required one in that situation.  The hasty barricade, the cops that had been blocking the door, the known defender with his gun out are all sufficient for any reasonable person.

Expecting a plainclothes officer/bodyguard in the middle of a riot to be immediately arrested without an investigation is asinine.

The doors he was guarding were the last barricade between the rioters and the chambers therefore guarding them would be within that area of responsibility.  For all I know he was ordered to cover that approach.  You're just speculating pulling stuff out of your ass.

The Electoral College already voted.  Congress was just finishing the paperwork.  All that would have happened is that Congress would have re-convened and certified the Electoral College vote a few days later.  If the rioters had been more successful then we would be in even deeper shit today.