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Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:38:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Marking this thread.  If she wants to post up, I'll be here with as much of an intelligent response as this attorney can muster.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:38:43 PM EDT
[#2]
You didn't send her a link to the thread.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:38:50 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I figure she changes her tune the second she actually buys a couple hundred rounds and a couple mags, goes to the range, loads up, HOPEFULLY gets some instruction on how to actually use it..shoots it, takes it home, and spends the requisite time to clean the thing.



HUH!?!

Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:38:53 PM EDT
[#4]
TEEEEeeeeeEEEEEEEaaaaaaaagggggggg
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:39:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Too bad that he died.  You still can't have my AK-47, or any of my other guns.  You can attempt to take them, but do so at your own risk.

Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:40:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:40:52 PM EDT
[#7]
Does anyone think they might want to clean up their posts a touch just in case she shows?

You never know, if we treat her with a little courtesy she might be open-minded enough to listen and gain something.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:41:15 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
You didn't send her a link to the thread.



And maybe that's not such a bad idea considering the leghumping idiots that peppered this thread with such lovely language.  Way to set an image, guys.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:41:29 PM EDT
[#9]
Dear God,

Please don't let any Airsofters post in this thread before we've had the chance to engage this lady in a mature dialog.

Thanks in advance,

Moof
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:42:23 PM EDT
[#10]
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:42:47 PM EDT
[#11]
tagged
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:42:53 PM EDT
[#12]
The article wasn't too bad.

She seems like she could learn to appreciate her new purchase with proper training.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:43:03 PM EDT
[#13]
I don't think Miss Roberts is open minded...Yet.

Now maybe if she took her new toy to the rifle range, she might get hooked..

I challenge Miss Roberts to shoot a coke can at 150 ft. Iron sights, no scope. Then hit it again while its still moving on the ground. Do this three or four times in rapid sucession if you can.. You will enjoy the look on your friends face if you can do it.

Yep.. Your hot.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:43:20 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Wow nice glamour shot in the tight pants and sweater, what a journalist.



Sex sales,


Not that sexy but hey sex still sales.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:44:12 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
i must admit, i'm very curious.  the agenda was quite heavily implied, but the reportage was surprisingly fair.  (minus the glaring factual errors)  provided that everyone stays open-minded, and on an even keel, this should be an interesting discussion.




She could have just as easily went out and bought a deer sniple rifle instead of a semi AK.  She went out looking to stir up trouble.



With all due respect, the shooting that took place recently was not with a bolt action rifle.

Lots of articles, Google away:

http://kdka.com/local/local_story_082093124.html

The Tribune-Review is a pretty fair paper, contrasted with the decidedly biased Post-Gazette. Here, read their take on it:

www.post-gazette.com/pg/05087/478663.stm


Instead of prejudging a reporter, why not welcome her & see what she has to say. I daresay that most folks here weren't *experts* the first time they walked into a store or gunshow (or into basic), but there were more experienced folks around to bring us along, right?

Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:44:18 PM EDT
[#16]
I don't know anything about Pittsburgh laws ,
but since I became a PA resident less than a year ago ,
I noticed some odd things in the story.

5 day wait for long guns before the insta check    (must have been a long time ago )....

Home state has to fax driving record to PA  (not when I got my PA license )....

"Under Pennsylvania law, gun shops can sell a rifle to anybody 18 or older from any state with no criminal record. An AK-47 is a rifle, and I could purchase it on the spot. I didn’t need a reason or even a gun permit.

But there was a catch. As a new resident in Pennsylvania, I did not have a driver’s license from the state. I thought my U.S. passport would be sufficient to buy a rifle, but Canella disagreed. He wanted a government-issued photo ID with my present address and sent me across the street to the Driver’s License Center.
I waited four days for New York State to fax a transcript of my driving record to PennDOT. "......

Where was her NY driver license ?  .........
.............................................
We'll ignore all the Gun "Buzz words"  - But it's nothing but a Slanted Hatchet job as far as I'm concerned.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:44:40 PM EDT
[#17]
Next week will she go to a car dealer, and a liquor store to see how easy she can get all the neccesary tools to become a drunk driver?
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:44:57 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
You didn't send her a link to the thread.



He probably didn't put it in the post because until he submitted it he didn't have it.

Interesting idea, I will have to tag this one
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:45:06 PM EDT
[#19]
She isn't bad looking at all.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:45:24 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You didn't send her a link to the thread.



And maybe that's not such a bad idea considering the leghumping idiots that peppered this thread with such lovely language.  Way to set an image, guys.


Hahaha, hey we try.




I don't think any of my post have been too crude.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:45:44 PM EDT
[#21]

ETA - When I began typing this there was a single response to this thread - 3 pages later I can honestly say that there is a great deal of stupidity and immaturity amongst the membership here So many gun owners, so many unable to articulate why they do


I have to say that if this is legit, this may just be one of the best and most original threads I have seen to date. I am very curious to see what transpires.

I will throw in my two cents now...the term "assault weapon" or "assault rifle" is simply a play on words in the interest of scare tactics. Semantics pure and simple. There is no debate that a firearm could be characterized as a weapon...but where is the "assault" part coming from?

I am the responsible owner of an AR15 that I own for 100% purely defensive purposes. I have no intention of ever assaulting anyone with said weapon. If I myself were to be assaulted by another party, I may indeed elect to defend myself with my AR15, and I may not, but my actions will never be characterized as assault by any thinking, rational individual.

For years, the language of gun control has dictated the images one conjures up when haphazard terms such as "assault" are coupled with words like rifle and weapon.


For my second topic, how about a 10 cent tour of the 2nd amendment?
Read it.
Says nothing about hunting.
Lets get to the point...the 2nd ammendment exists as a check and balance measure to afford me as a citizen the right to defend myself against any aggressor...including my own governement. I know that is a hard pill for the unindocrtinated to swallow, but there it is. I have been garuanteed the right to possess arms (that means anything, single shot .22 or .50BMG - my choice - not yours) by the framers of this nation as a means of enabling me (and every other citizen) to protect myself under any circumstance which presents itself.

When asked "why do I need an AR15", my typical (and admittedly borrowed) response is, "If and when a time comes when I do in fact determine I NEED it, I will most likely not be in a position to stop what I am in the middle of to go procure one, therefore I am being proactive in case the opportunity presents itself".

I dont "NEED" to justify why I "NEED" a rifle...again, my choice, not yours.
The benign act of me owning a weapon (even scary ones with high capacity magazines) in no way infringes on anyone elses liberties, or abilities, to live thier life in any manner they choose to (unless they choose to attack me or my family)

In summary...I dont assault people with my so termed "assault rifle", and I will not justify my practice of due dilligence exercising my 2nd ammendment rights...because I do not need to justify what has been garuanteed to me.

If our invited guest would care to address either of the two issues I have thrown onto the table, I welcome your're intelligent and well thought out response.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:46:02 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Next week will she go to a car dealer, and a liquor store to see how easy she can get all the neccesary tools to become a drunk driver?



She already has the tools to be a prostitute.  But that doesn't make her one.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:46:33 PM EDT
[#23]
... consider this post a subscription
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:46:50 PM EDT
[#24]
What the flipping hell is wrong with ya'll. Why not wait till she shows up instead of giving in to her damn stereotypes that she has of us. Ya'll are shooting us in the foot for christs sake.


Hopefully she posts.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:47:38 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Betcha that bitch shoots it and is a convert!!! But I bet she doesnt realize that criminals dont legally own AKs... Thats why they are criminals..

Im going to shut up now.. But I bet that if she loads up a mag and sits it in a corner by itself, it wont shoot anyone..

That's the way to start a debate!





Yeah, brilliant eh ?  That's sure to reinforce any possibility we have of educating her and maybe changing her mind.  




Jackass.......
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:48:13 PM EDT
[#26]

Female Anti-gun journalist buys “AK-47”


Well, if she is indeed what this thread title says, I'd say she already has her mind made up, and will be only culling quotes from people here that support her views already. Or, the views will be distorted and telescoped to make them look as menacing and evil as possible. "If guns are evil, only evil people will have guns," or some such.

Hey - I live in Massachusetts and see journalists up here do it all the time. Their bias against guns they hold up banner-high, since they do it in a good cause. Why else do they slip in comments about how deadly the gun is repeatedly and how easy it is to get one? And why do they always have a comment from an antigun group or politician at the end of the article? Gee- do I smell "bias"? Naw- journalists are pros, they never let their feelings and views color a story, right?

Right?

(Anybody still believe in the Easter Bunny, too?)

Why, instead of just focusing on the instrumentality of evil, don't they focus on the doers? Why? Because it's too hard to unlock the mind of sick twisted individuals, when it's (pardon the simile) like shooting fish in a barrel to focus on "evil" guns instead...sells more ad space, too.

As a reenactor and lawful gunowner, I've been burned by too many journalists in interviews to take them seriously or at their word any more.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:48:42 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
c*nt




D*mbass........


Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:49:22 PM EDT
[#28]
Seen worse but in all, hatchet job going on.
Will change my opinion when I see her post about shooting it.
And what will she do with it  now? Leave in the closet in the hall or something?
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:49:24 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Hopefully she takes it out to shoot it.

She may or may not have a good head on her shoulders.

Other than the fact that she bought one of the shittiest-made AK knockoffs..

I figure she changes her tune the second she actually buys a couple hundred rounds and a couple mags, goes to the range, loads up, HOPEFULLY gets some instruction on how to actually use it..shoots it, takes it home, and spends the requisite time to clean the thing.

And then spends the time thinking that if any criminal goes through the legal hoops to buy one, it'll be instantly traceable back to them. There's a reason FFL's keep a book on all sales, and why all manufacturers record who bought what.

Gun laws ain't the answer; there's enough already....it's the criminals that flagrantly break the laws that are the problem. And by definition, a criminal isn't exactily bound by law.



Unfortunately, she will probably never even load it. She has done her 'research' and proven how EASILY an 'ak-47' can be had (even though she had to wait for proper credentials, go through a bg check, etc.). What could she possibly gain by shooting it. Hell, she might even like shooting it and then she would be a bad person. The gun would have possessed her, making her something she is not. That would be the only logical explanation for her, a good liberal anti actually LIKEING to shoot a gun. No way, she won't risk it.

And these people are the first to run to the men with guns to save them when the boogy man creeps near. I have news for you little lady, just because someone wears a badge and a uniform, does not mean they are more qualified than man that doesn't. When you are in trouble, REAL TROUBLE, and there aren't any police around to save you, what then? Keep trying to disarm law abiding citizens, and you'll be left alone, scared and helpless in the hands of your attacker.

Edited to add: C'mon people have some self respect and edit out the garbage in some of these posts.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:50:40 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
What the flipping hell is wrong with ya'll. Why not wait till she shows up instead of giving in to her damn stereotypes that she has of us. Ya'll are shooting us in the foot for christs sake.


Hopefully she posts.



Agreed.  CD-R didn't suggest this but I just sent a nicely worded invitation as well.  

This could be interesting IF she responds.  BTW, did anyone welcome CD-R?
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:51:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:51:39 PM EDT
[#32]
Read this thing from start to finish.  There's enough material in here to make gun owners look like real jerks and creeps.

Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:52:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Think we can convince her about our views????

Article wasn't that bad.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:52:14 PM EDT
[#34]
If she shows up, jackasses will start coming out of the woodwork.

IBTL
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:52:35 PM EDT
[#35]
I've had friends ask why I need an AR (and they were genuinely curious, not GFW).  I always state that if some criminal breaks into my apartment, I intend to fight in the most unfair, one-sided manner possible.  When Mr. Bad Guy pulls his lorado .380 loaded with the cheapest ball ammo he can find, he will find himself sorely lacking against an AR with 2 30-round mags loaded with Hornady TAP.

A fair fight is nothing more than the failure to use proper tactics.  

Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:52:45 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
If she shows up, jackasses will start coming out of the woodwork.

IBTL



Did you check what's here already?
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:52:47 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Even this one, a semiautomatic rifle developed for Soviets tank crews to kill from a mile away.


 yeah, sounds like she really got her facts straight before she wrote that article.



Well, technically, if you dropped it out of a mile-high airplane, it could kill someone on the ground...especially if it had one of those evil pointy-knife thingys on the end...
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:53:25 PM EDT
[#38]
I think the article was neither posotive or negative. Wish she explained how real AK-47 are regulated though and what she bought was nothin compared to the real thing.

She bought a gun the looked like a AK-47
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:53:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Tagorama.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:54:06 PM EDT
[#40]




Yeah, brilliant eh ?  That's sure to reinforce any possibility we have of educating her and maybe changing her mind.  




Jackass.......



Are you serious?  Good luck.  That's like trying to convert a lesbo.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:54:46 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If she shows up, jackasses will start coming out of the woodwork.

IBTL



Did you check what's here already?



Yes, but it will get much worse.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:55:12 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
If she shows up, jackasses will start coming out of the woodwork.

IBTL



Did you check what's here already?



Yes, but it will get much worse.



I see why you did 1BTL then...
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:55:38 PM EDT
[#43]
Some of you people embarrass me.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:55:40 PM EDT
[#44]
I can't believe that nobody is bashing her for not buying an AR15.
WTF, couldn't she at least bought an American designed weapon.



Seems a good story, and I think that if she was properly trained in using that weapon, it would make her feel a lot safer.

Thats what it's about with women, how they feel.
You get her to "feel safer" and your good to go.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:56:14 PM EDT
[#45]
you guys are your own worst enemy, if there was any chance for her to come and have a disscusion are gone because of the childish assholes who already posted
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:56:25 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
I can't believe that nobody is bashing her for not buying an AR15.
WTF, couldn't she at least bought an American designed weapon.



Seems a good story, and I think that if she was properly trained in using that weapon, it would make her feel a lot safer.

Thats what it's about with women, how they feel.
You get her to "feel safer" and your good to go.



Feel safer?  I think she'd BE safer if she was trained with it.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:57:13 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
you guys are your own worst enemy, if there was any chance for her to come and have a disscusion are gone because of the childish assholes who already posted



Can a mod blow away the whole thread except the originating post?
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:58:22 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
Read this thing from start to finish.  There's enough material in here to make gun owners look like real jerks and creeps.




Yep, if she does come here, she'll likely be disgusted.
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:58:54 PM EDT
[#49]
Its all a blame game. They blame our guns, we blame society for making kids who could do things, we blame parents for raising terrible children. Round and round. This woman is just a product of her enviroment and childhood. She was probably raised to ssee guns as bad, and never saw any positive images of people using guns for good. I too am a product of my childhood and always saw gus used for good.

I hope she does post, I think it would be very interesting.

BTW: Welcome to AR15.com, Cd-R!
Link Posted: 3/29/2005 4:59:19 PM EDT
[#50]
Odyssey, Houston. We are standing by....




ETA: Some people here should SERIOUSLY consider going to some Charm School classes!
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