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Posted: 10/4/2023 6:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good, caught by their own trap. Couldn’t happen to a better country. Maybe the British moved it out of their way but didn't tell anybody. |
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Posted: 10/4/2023 6:40:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/4/2023 6:46:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/4/2023 6:47:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Submarines are the best place to be. Until They're not. Davey Jones' locker collects a few commies. OL |
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Posted: 10/4/2023 6:51:29 PM EDT
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British propaganda has been unbelievable since WW1 and continues to be such.
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Posted: 10/4/2023 7:12:41 PM EDT
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As a career Submariner, I shiver to think of those poor bastards slowly suffocating to death.
An an American Submariner.... fuck em. They were shitty enough sailors to get caught in their own fucking trap. A trap, I add, that's intended to kill my shipmates. Literally, Wish.com submariners getting snagged like Wile E. Coyote with an Acme beartrap. |
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Posted: 10/4/2023 7:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As a career Submariner, I shiver to think of those poor bastards slowly suffocating to death. An an American Submariner.... fuck em. They were shitty enough sailors to get caught in their own fucking trap. A trap, I add, that's intended to kill my shipmates. Literally, Wish.com submariners getting snagged like Wile E. Coyote with an Acme beartrap. 
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Posted: 10/4/2023 9:22:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Literally, Wish.com submariners getting snagged like Wile E. Coyote with an Acme beartrap. Temu Temu I'm swimming like a billionaire Temu Temu I'm swimming like a billionaire |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 2:06:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt nukes on the ocean floor is ever a good idea. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Shame the boat survived. I doubt nukes on the ocean floor is ever a good idea. Meh, as long as they weren't damaged and leaking no big deal, not like they (or someone) wouldn't have recovered any nuclear material that was lost. Best case would have been for the sub to have been structurally destroyed and everything saltwater damaged (a total loss). Even though the loss of the crew is a net positive, it sounds like the boat was recovered; the crew is a lot more easily replaced. |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 2:29:53 AM EDT
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They could build a Destroyer in 90 days...before their shipyard ability doubled.
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Posted: 10/5/2023 3:09:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are we allowed to cheer for the death of our enemy here, or are they off limits? We aren't really actively engaged with them at the moment... While my instinct is to make a joke about it I feel it is in poor taste. |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 3:12:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/5/2023 3:14:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We aren't really actively engaged with them at the moment... While my instinct is to make a joke about it I feel it is in poor taste. I close my eyes and pretend I am from Hong Kong. 
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Posted: 10/5/2023 3:32:19 AM EDT
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 Edit: dang it beat |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 4:41:15 AM EDT
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The best thing would be to rescue them, live, on camera.
The CCP considers OJT a requirement, and death is inconsequential. Rescue them and show it to the world, there is nothing more painful than compassion. |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 2:35:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interesting, what does this trap look like? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124206/8F853B2D-B5D6-45F4-9EFC-FB3E8650CE70-2976613.png I loled. |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 2:48:56 PM EDT
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still confused... did the trap have anything to do with the o2 system failure? are these 2 events of getting trapped and then having your o2 system blow up in some manner related to each other?
where if a US sub did go there and get trapped, would they have slowly suffocated or whould their o2 system immediately get rekt also? and ETA: wtf is a "double captain"?? |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 2:55:05 PM EDT
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Sounds like a mechanical failure of their air scrubber/generator system and they didn't have a backup? Kind of confusing reading the various reports.
 I'm curious if they installed the "standardized" airlock couplings that would have allowed another country's rescue vessel to attach to it; I seem to recall there was some agreement between the US/western nations and Russia to standardize on the same type for emergency purposes. To be honest though, I'd fully expect the Chinese to allow their sailors to die before allowing a foreign power access their subs. |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 3:43:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: still confused... did the trap have anything to do with the o2 system failure? are these 2 events of getting trapped and then having your o2 system blow up in some manner related to each other? where if a US sub did go there and get trapped, would they have slowly suffocated or whould their o2 system immediately get rekt also? and ETA: wtf is a "double captain"?? i'm guessing something that got lost in translation. perhaps, Captain, 2nd Grade. like a 2nd Lieutenant grade designation. just a wild-assed guess. |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 5:01:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: still confused... did the trap have anything to do with the o2 system failure? are these 2 events of getting trapped and then having your o2 system blow up in some manner related to each other? where if a US sub did go there and get trapped, would they have slowly suffocated or whould their o2 system immediately get rekt also? and ETA: wtf is a "double captain"?? @Bophades My best guess is the trap has objects that will clog the sea intakes. If you cut off the cooling sea water the reactor will scram in short order. 02 systems consumes quite a bit of battery power and I suspect SSNs dont have as much battery reserves as a DE sub. They do have emergency oxygen sources in US subs, that I assume they would have on PLAN subs, so because of that I lean towards a battery failure being the actual killer, likely from the off gassing from the failed battery cells. This would rapidly overwhelm the crew before they could do much to respond to their situation. From what I have read this trap is designed to catch and hold a USN SSN, likely creating a casualty situation that forces the sub to call for help. Being stuck well inside Chinese territorial waters China would use the situation to ideally seize the vessel for inspection (read steal everything nailed down) and to create drama with the US on the international stage. Its likely only a failure in the life safety systems of the PLAN SSN that resulted in the fatalities because major PLAN ports were so close and the water so shallow a rescue should have been possible. |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 5:33:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i'm guessing something that got lost in translation. perhaps, Captain, 2nd Grade. like a 2nd Lieutenant grade designation. just a wild-assed guess. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: still confused... did the trap have anything to do with the o2 system failure? are these 2 events of getting trapped and then having your o2 system blow up in some manner related to each other? where if a US sub did go there and get trapped, would they have slowly suffocated or whould their o2 system immediately get rekt also? and ETA: wtf is a "double captain"?? i'm guessing something that got lost in translation. perhaps, Captain, 2nd Grade. like a 2nd Lieutenant grade designation. just a wild-assed guess. Somebody else said their crews were modeled on the Soviet style where they had a naval captain/master of the vessel and a political officer (can't remember their actual title off the top of my head) and that the captain could make decisions regarding operations of the vessel but that they have to be in joint agreement about essentially everything else. I've read a little about the various Soviet forces (at least Cold War era stuff), not so much about how the Chinese are currently operating (or fortunately for everyone else in the world- no longer this crew). |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 7:00:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/5/2023 7:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI was hoping someone was going to use AI to come up with something like that. Very shark like sub. |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 7:23:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was hoping someone was going to use AI to come up with something like that. Very shark like sub. It took me a while to get the correct prompt. Still wasn’t quite what I was looking for, but… |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 7:28:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It has a recording of a dinner lady saying "FREE TEA HERE" Big sign, "Tea and Crumpets served daily" |
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Posted: 10/5/2023 7:57:39 PM EDT
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This is actually fucking hilarious.
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Posted: 10/5/2023 8:01:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It took me a while to get the correct prompt. Still wasn’t quite what I was looking for, but… I think it looks great. Kinda want to see H I Sutton do a cutaway of it.
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Posted: 10/5/2023 8:08:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So they’re caught in a trap. They can’t walk out? Why can't you see what your doing to me? |
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Posted: 10/14/2023 5:28:13 PM EDT
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Interesting video claims the sinking was the result of a suicidal act and that the sub was carrying several high ranking officers at the time (more than typical).
 55 people lost lives including backbones of China''s nuclear submarines! The sinking process revealed Protip: turn up the playback speed, narrator speaks really slowly |
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Posted: 10/27/2023 8:10:36 PM EDT
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Crew died of hydrogen sulfide poisoning, allegedly. Also, one survivor.
 Updates to Sunken Submarine: Survived one is at physical risk/Taiwan builds submarine to stay afloat |
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Posted: 10/27/2023 8:17:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was hoping someone was going to use AI to come up with something like that. Very shark like sub. Quote HistoryQuoted: I was hoping someone was going to use AI to come up with something like that. Very shark like sub. I’m more impressed with their aerial frigate capability |
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Posted: 10/27/2023 8:19:09 PM EDT
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 Chinese Elvis - Suspicious Minds |
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