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Link Posted: 9/9/2024 11:49:12 AM EST
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New issues popped up.  Different thruster failed and the guidance system failed for a while

https://futurism.com/the-byte/starliner-new-problems-return-earth

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I wonder how that analyst positioned his shorts before making that comment
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 12:00:11 PM EST
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Ha, the people this place loves to hate are so righteous now because they decided against Boeing, who they hate more.
Do you think that 3 string GPS is all they got for NAV?
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Let me summarize for Boeing:

1. Space is hard.
2. Failure modes are understood and backed by multiple redundant systems.
3. At no time were the astronauts in danger.
4. This is why we test. This was a test flight.
5. Our employees try their very best.
6. We are satisfied with the performance of Starliner and congratulate ourselves, Aerojet Rocketdyne, and NASA for a job well done.

That has been the message at every press briefing. None of it gets at the fundamental point that Boeing does not do enough integrated testing before flight and are losing billions on Commercial Crew because reasons.

Link Posted: 9/9/2024 12:11:01 PM EST
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And 2 middle fingers for Bill Nelson and his experts.
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Fuck that guy.  Just fuck him.  He had no business in state government, he had no place in DC, and he certainly does not need to be in charge of NASA.

Fuck that guy.
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 1:33:27 PM EST
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The hype was created by the media.

Mark expressed confidence in the vehicle many times. Steve provided plenty of technical details throughout this. The "journalists" either don't have the vocabulary to understand this or weren't interested in that aspect so the questions asked were nothing but drama bullshit followed up by daily articles that provided no new information and opinionated hype.
The crew expressed confidence in the vehicle directly to these "journalists" in their own Q&A session as well. Nothing but drama questions and bullshit articles.
I posted back in June that the media was whipping you guys up into a tissy over nothing.

What makes the media so credible with this but anywhere else they are viewed as full of shit?

JSC and DC make the final decision as to which way this goes. The chief astronaut made this clear. Those decision makers had all of the information and details and couldn't make an informed decision, they flew in experts to help them understand and still had "questions that couldn't be answered". JSC huh, that's where they work on space ships so they should know right? Nope. How bout DC? lol. Why is this panel flying in experts? Why is the panel not made up of experts?

There was one comment that was made in all this and I hate to give that dick Berger credit for it but I will. He said back in shuttle days they had daily briefings of flights and that went away with the shuttle. I'd like for them to go back to that pattern with providing information and IFAs daily for all of the service providers. That information used to be available and searchable to the "outside" it isn't even available inside to people not involved anymore.
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Cool pic.
Glad it made it back safe and the hype can fade away.

lol....I was fairly confident that it would make it back safe and I'm glad it did but Boeing created their own negative hype here.  They shit their own pants and deserve to sit in it for a while.  

Hopefully it hurts them enough that they decide to unfuck themselves as a company and start making solid products that can be trusted again.  I'm not sure I'd bet money on it happening but I genuinely hope it does.


The hype was created by the media.

Mark expressed confidence in the vehicle many times. Steve provided plenty of technical details throughout this. The "journalists" either don't have the vocabulary to understand this or weren't interested in that aspect so the questions asked were nothing but drama bullshit followed up by daily articles that provided no new information and opinionated hype.
The crew expressed confidence in the vehicle directly to these "journalists" in their own Q&A session as well. Nothing but drama questions and bullshit articles.
I posted back in June that the media was whipping you guys up into a tissy over nothing.

What makes the media so credible with this but anywhere else they are viewed as full of shit?

JSC and DC make the final decision as to which way this goes. The chief astronaut made this clear. Those decision makers had all of the information and details and couldn't make an informed decision, they flew in experts to help them understand and still had "questions that couldn't be answered". JSC huh, that's where they work on space ships so they should know right? Nope. How bout DC? lol. Why is this panel flying in experts? Why is the panel not made up of experts?

There was one comment that was made in all this and I hate to give that dick Berger credit for it but I will. He said back in shuttle days they had daily briefings of flights and that went away with the shuttle. I'd like for them to go back to that pattern with providing information and IFAs daily for all of the service providers. That information used to be available and searchable to the "outside" it isn't even available inside to people not involved anymore.

Who drove confidence in Boeing down so far that people automatically assume the worst from them?  Without that total public loss of confidence would half the media even care about the shortcomings of this launch....who knows.

Boeing put itself in the position to be doubted and be looked at with extra scrutiny.  I hope they're successful, we need more companies putting mass into space....hell we need airplane manufactures that the public isn't scared of.
Link Posted: 9/9/2024 3:05:09 PM EST
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This should give Boeing's stock a bump.  Now they get to decide whether to continue on in the space business.
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A year from now Boeing will be completely out of the space business.

Link Posted: 9/9/2024 3:08:18 PM EST
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A year from now Boeing will be completely out of the space business.

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They are going to stop making sattelites and decomission the X-37B?

SLS might be whooked.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 12:20:03 PM EST
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Disaster! Boeing Starliner Failure...NASA Says Something Weird...


Measured rehash of everything from the last few days, including Boeing's vague announcement & non attendance @ the post flight press conference.
Link Posted: 9/11/2024 12:43:21 PM EST
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They are going to stop making sattelites and decomission the X-37B?

SLS might be whooked.
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SLS was crap from day one.

Sierra is buying ULA.

Wonder who winds up with the rest?  Musk?



Link Posted: 9/11/2024 12:47:29 PM EST
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Fuck that guy.  Just fuck him.  He had no business in state government, he had no place in DC, and he certainly does not need to be in charge of NASA.

Fuck that guy.
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And 2 middle fingers for Bill Nelson and his experts.



Fuck that guy.  Just fuck him.  He had no business in state government, he had no place in DC, and he certainly does not need to be in charge of NASA.

Fuck that guy.


Should have left him in space when a gerrymandered his way up there.
Link Posted: 9/16/2024 6:29:30 PM EST
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I'd not call leaving the crew behind successful, but you do you.
Link Posted: 9/16/2024 6:30:12 PM EST
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Should have left him in space when a gerrymandered his way up there.
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Yes.  This.
Link Posted: 9/19/2024 7:27:32 PM EST
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Why Falcon 9 Was Grounded, But Not Starliner | We Asked The FAA
Link Posted: 9/29/2024 8:09:56 PM EST
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Crew 9 is now docked at the ISS. Hopefully in a little while this will all be over and Boeing can sweep all of this under the smallest rug they can afford.
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