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Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:17:58 AM EST
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This.

Born and raised in Michigan. Left 30 years ago and will never go back.  At this point, I've lived longer in NC than I did MI.  


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I'm done defending and I am done bashing that state.

One of the most happy days of my life was seeing that state in my rear view.

Not for nothing, but Mexican food is always local. SW D has some places that haven't been rivaled yet by where I live now.

I miss the food options up there and the music scene.

Never going back


This.

Born and raised in Michigan. Left 30 years ago and will never go back.  At this point, I've lived longer in NC than I did MI.  




There is a very big part of me that thinks I’d benefit greatly from a move… Tennessee or something.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:20:31 AM EST
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I have one right down the road called Lucero's that is pretty damn good.
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Taco Bell is about it for Mexican food.


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I have one right down the road called Lucero's that is pretty damn good.


Nice… There are taquerias all over the place with absolutely killer food. Taco Tienda in Madison Heights is a total gem of a place. Anyone who thinks we don’t have great Mexican food either is talking out their ass or hasn’t been here in the last 15+ years.
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^ Thinking the same thing! Some of my best Mexican food has been in CA.

This guy better get used to Friday fish fry's and pasties (meat and potato pies).
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:23:48 AM EST
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I loved Michigan but was ready to eat a bullet by March every year.

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It be honest it’s not much different down here, but I’m 30 min to the border of MI. Nobody talks about the Midwest and the fact that it has a whole lotta grey for about half the year.

The people are pretty awesome though.

Going through Midwest seasons year after year makes you a pretty hardy individual.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:28:16 AM EST
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Nice… There are taquerias all over the place with absolutely killer food. Taco Tienda in Madison Heights is a total gem of a place. Anyone who thinks we don’t have great Mexican food either is talking out their ass or hasn’t been here in the last 15+ years.
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That is interesting, I've seen multiple posts claiming the Mexican food is pretty good now.

It's been 12 years or so for me. Sounds like a lot has changed since then.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:29:48 AM EST
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The state itself is beautiful.  The government is giving California a run for its money.
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I became a Florida Man because of Michigan. I am so glad.

Thankfully we got out before Whitmer.

June-August is nice. October through May not so much.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:31:33 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:31:59 AM EST
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I'm stuck here for now. I'm originally from ohio, which is the south of the north pretty much. So michigan is further left than I'm used to. But if you are from California, michigan will seem as conservative as the deep south lol. But there is great sights to see. You are sorrounded by the great lakes in pretty much every direction but south. And if you like to fish and hunt, this is the place to be. If you ever make it to the upper peninsula, you will see the stars and the northern lights unlike anything you have ever seen or experienced. I have never seen a night sky look as beautiful as it did up there. Gun laws are pretty good. It's easy to get a carry permit, no mag limits or assault weapons bans. The only thing that pisses me off is their handgun registration rules. When you buy a handgun in Michigan, you are required to send a form with a copy of the sale's record into your county sheriff's office to register it. Being from ohio, I saw that as a huge infringement of my rights. However, i'm not encouraging anyone to break the law, but lets say you fail to register a handgun and somehow you get caught (which i've never heard of). It's considered a civil infraction and not a criminal one, and the worst that will happen is a 500 dollar fine. But no actual criminal charge, jail time etc.
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Used to be much worse.

I would love to see some FOIA metadata on that database.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:32:06 AM EST
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We don't claim Ann Arbor.

However, it is fun as hell to wear a pro gun or conservative shirt when you go there.
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I had to pick up my mother from St Joe’s hospital after her surgery. Completely forgot I was wearing an anti-commie shirt with reference to Augusto Pinochet.

Stopped in at Fresh Thyme and everyone in there was glaring at me like I am a monster. The transgendered cashier started out looking terrified then just looked super disgusted.

It’s sad because I grew up over that way and don’t remember Ypsi being such a socialist shithole. It used to just be slightly ghetto.

Going back a few pages,  the map marked with the red X…. I may have land up there. Might go visit next month.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:32:47 AM EST
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I have one right down the road called Lucero's that is pretty damn good.
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IIRC I have been to that place........is it outside of Jackson?
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:37:54 AM EST
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That is interesting, I've seen multiple posts claiming the Mexican food is pretty good now.

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I wouldn’t necessarily recommend moving to my neighborhood exactly, but I can get tacos from over 40 authentic restaurants in under 7 miles from my house.

I have my preferred spot, which the proprietor is a second generation Mexican who proudly voted Trump and concealed carries 100% of the time. 90% of his customers are Mexicans and only has a few seldom gringos in there. His food is legit genuine.

Also, Swire’s pothole has been fixed. That’s not far from me.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:54:39 AM EST
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I can see why your standards are so low, coming from California.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 9:58:11 AM EST
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My brother and his wife have lived in Grand Ledge for almost 30 years.  I visited them a couple of years ago in the fall. MI didn't look too bad, but for being flat and probably the 4th worst winter in the country.  Politics couldn't be worse than here in OR, tax burden is about the same, but the cost of living is a hell of a lot less.  I guess if I could put up with really cold, long, winter it could be a great place to retire.
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Yes, to the south by Clark Lake. Almost always packed to the gills. GREAT home made salsa and chips.

My problem is by the time I finish the salsa and chips, I'm full. The steak Fajita's are tasty.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 10:00:02 AM EST
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I wouldn’t necessarily recommend moving to my neighborhood exactly, but I can get tacos from over 40 authentic restaurants in under 7 miles from my house.

I have my preferred spot, which the proprietor is a second generation Mexican who proudly voted Trump and concealed carries 100% of the time. 90% of his customers are Mexicans and only has a few seldom gringos in there. His food is legit genuine.

Also, Swire’s pothole has been fixed. That’s not far from me.
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Most I know that live around toledo or a little north/monroe county drove to el rancho in fremont,oh. Guess its pretty authentic.
That was then, this is now though
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 10:01:16 AM EST
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Yes, to the south by Clark Lake. Almost always packed to the gills. GREAT home made salsa and chips.

My problem is by the time I finish the salsa and chips, I'm full. The steak Fajita's are tasty.
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Thanks.......that place was good.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 10:09:38 AM EST
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Ran out of Stroh's? would be more authentic than that wisconsin shitcago swill
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 10:20:18 AM EST
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This Californian is moving to Michigan.

Between Christmas stuff, the amazing Mexican food, snow in some places, and nice people, I hope you welcome me as one of your own.

I will hunt deer and fish ice, my dear michigander souls.

I thank you and hope many will follow my path.
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Anything East of Lansing is a shithole!
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 10:25:46 AM EST
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No you lie, that's...all lies. Michigan has all the water. They're like the water Cesar's of Rome, ancient rome.
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So does California, in fact, an entire ocean.

No you lie, that's...all lies. Michigan has all the water. They're like the water Cesar's of Rome, ancient rome.



just tell him that our water is fresh water, doesn't need the salt removed to be useful
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 10:42:13 AM EST
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Actually I'm a Minnesotan by birth.

Michigan is home. Home is not where you were born, it's where you stop escaping.

When I went to retire, to go home, it was gone. Duluth is no longer the Duluth of 1980, nor was the Chicago suburb I went to school in. I looked for months in Idaho and Utah and eventually property after property disappeared to the point where the inventory for "executive homes" on acres was zero. We bid on two homes in Idaho and lost. I broaden my search and I found parts of my midwest culture alive in Indiana, Wisconsin, and Michigan, made a list of 10 acceptable homes and my wife picked the UP home.

I could write books worth of arguments trying to convince you that petite blondes with perky breasts are best lovers, Chicago deep dish is the best pizza, #23 is the GOAT, and Michigan is a wonderful state but ... personal taste.  

I actually missed weather, rust, and bugs working in California for 20-years. I missed the earth being alive, the clean air, and freshwater of the midwest but mostly I missed the people. I'd put up with a lot of bad things to live around good people. It didn't matter than the weather was fine in CA because I hated everything else*.

My wife and I have been here in the UP for approaching three months, just two of them in our home. We are changing many of our normal behaviors because of the quality of people in the UP.

When I closed on my house at the Trust office there's that moment where they slide the keys to the new property to your home. Nope, not here. "Welcome to the UP, congratulations on your new home, we don't have the keys for the property. In the 20-years the owner owned the property he never locked the home. The home is unlocked and there's a pile of keys in a bowl that might unlock some of the doors".  We go to town and have to remember to leave our doors unlocked. We leave the garage door open while we're gone. I haven't locked my shop in in the last month or so. I do take the key out of the ATV when I leave it out overnight on the lawn. We put our dog outside in our unfenced yard for hours without worry. I have a dozen rifles sitting in a glass case facing the front windows. I haven't had to put up cameras or install an alarm system. I don't worry about getting robbed while walking around town at night. My gun safe is empty now as I haven't gotten around to stuffing it again. In my SoCal suburb safety and security were major concerns, not so much here.

The outdoors here is great. I spent hours on the trail system yesterday and enjoyed the day. I'll do the same today exploring a different trail. I crossed a pair of wonderful trout streams (on bridges) a dozen times.

Come on big guys can put on some DEET and enjoy God's country.

Free trails weekend ... I'm out for more hours this morning.

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a picture or two look quite familiar
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:02:48 AM EST
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Detroit's ok. I don't care for Yspi much
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Why don’t you like Ypsi? Depot town is pretty cool.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:03:39 AM EST
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Are the chicks all nice & thin there?
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:06:22 AM EST
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Anything East of Lansing is a shithole!
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This Californian is moving to Michigan.

Between Christmas stuff, the amazing Mexican food, snow in some places, and nice people, I hope you welcome me as one of your own.

I will hunt deer and fish ice, my dear michigander souls.

I thank you and hope many will follow my path.


Anything East of Lansing is a shithole!


Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:08:29 AM EST
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The fitness trend and yoga pants has been in here for a long time now. Downside: All the big girls want to be drooled over like the in-shape girls so there's often some "egads" moments when people watching.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:10:03 AM EST
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Used to be. That place is full woke.

My last MI address before moving to Oregon was over by the dick tower. It was a lot of fun back then.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:13:22 AM EST
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Used to be. That place is full woke.

My last MI address before moving to Oregon was over by the dick tower. It was a lot of fun back then.
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Gotcha. My last MI address was Ypsi but we moved to Marquette county 22 years ago. Love it here.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:22:54 AM EST
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OP,

Are ya looking for a Hootch with property?
How about a working farm, 14yr old house in a 10A mature woodlot, Lake Mich 3 Miles away, Dozens of lakes nearby, multiple rivers, Public tail for the sled at a rear corner of the Field, that is open for hiking, Biking, and horseback, as well as X-country skiing and sleds in the winter. Only one neighbor on the road, with Deer, Turkey, and small game in abundance?

Gotta sell in the fall. I'm done farming, and the wife got a transfer option out of state.
Bought the farm for the field, and a place to build our forever house...That didn't work out.

Did I mention Two pole Barns, and multiple wells, and LOOOW taxes, with a next to zero crime rate??
Hell, there's only 1,400 people in the whole Township.
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Where at?  General location, don't have to be specific.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:23:56 AM EST
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The UP is awesome other than lack of thin women. Only reason we cross bridge is to hit the Keyhole. Winters aren't easy but they get better once you have hobbies and decide not to be a pussy.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:28:52 AM EST
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We have some amazing shoreline, and if you like archery deer hunting there are few better places.

Winter can be harsh, but that’s counter-balance is part of what makes the summers so dang nice. And then we have places like the dunes areas, the straights, the Kewenaw and Garden peninsulas that are veritable gardens-of-Eden for part of the year. And the Great Lakes are true jewels.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:32:09 AM EST
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Ever been to Austin, TX?
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:34:09 AM EST
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We have some amazing shoreline, and if you like archery deer hunting there are few better places.

Winter can be harsh, but that’s counter-balance is part of what makes the summers so dang nice. And then we have places like the dunes areas, the straights, the Kewenaw and Garden peninsulas that are veritable gardens-of-Eden for part of the year. And the Great Lakes are true jewels.
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And don't forget, we have the most coastline of any state in the contiguous United States and all of ours is fresh water. Even Florida and California are also rans with their salt water.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:36:04 AM EST
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The fitness trend and yoga pants has been in here for a long time now. Downside: All the big girls want to be drooled over like the in-shape girls so there's often some "egads" moments when people watching.
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Are the chicks all nice & thin there?


The fitness trend and yoga pants has been in here for a long time now. Downside: All the big girls want to be drooled over like the in-shape girls so there's often some "egads" moments when people watching.


My impressions when I was there was that a two hundred pounder was about the average you were going to find.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:39:06 AM EST
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Certain parts of Michigan can be pretty nice and I still have some family up there. Having spent a lot of time hunting , fishing , and just visiting the west side of the lower I always felt it was a place that old hippies went to get away. As those old hippies got older and had kids they started to influence the political direction of certain areas. There are still some solid republican type areas , but old hippies and the auto industry ruined many places.


Still , it's a great place to explore and I had some great times hunting and fishing there.
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My grandparents lived on Tibbets lake, basically the other side of the road from High Lake.  Spent many summers there and loved it.  I miss that place.  
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Lots of militia up north in Cadillac area when I lived there.

Traverse city how dare I?

That’s the area I said to go (north northwest lower). I said southern lower sucks not the lower peninsula sucks. RIF.

My grand parents lived on high lake between arbutus and spider lakes south east of T.C. and I used to spend my summers there.


My grandparents lived on Tibbets lake, basically the other side of the road from High Lake.  Spent many summers there and loved it.  I miss that place.  

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I know exactly where Tibbets is, my grandparents lived on that side of High Lake right across from the fire station. My aunt and uncle own the place now.

We used to race up when the siren would go off to watch all the volunteers come flying in and the firetrucks hauling ass out of there.  Walking down to Cortaids (spelling?) seemed like a huge adventure (not sure it's called that anymore- gas station and store a couple hundred yards north) and Paynes (spelling?) "way down" at the junction of high lake road and highview rd.  Cherry Festival every year and 4th of July fireworks. Collecting acorns and taking them to the zoo in town to feed the deer and elk. Going out to Sleeping Bear. I have aunts, uncles, and cousins that still live in T.C. and the area.

Boy, do I miss those days.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:40:13 AM EST
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People dont think parody threads be like they is! Until it do!
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:42:17 AM EST
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Wait until Winter.
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The region marked out is horrible. The people there are clannish and unaccepting of fudgies (slur referring to out of state or downstate tourists seeking fudge). I recommend Sault Ste. Marie if you want to move to Michigan.  Being from California you will feel more welcome up there on the Canadian border surrounded by the Snow Mexicans.
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I know about Brighton (and southern lower) thus

I grew up in Grand ledge. My parents lived in Adrian/Tecumseh later on.

Go north/northwest young man.  

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The region marked out is horrible. The people there are clannish and unaccepting of fudgies (slur referring to out of state or downstate tourists seeking fudge). I recommend Sault Ste. Marie if you want to move to Michigan.  Being from California you will feel more welcome up there on the Canadian border surrounded by the Snow Mexicans.



Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:46:38 AM EST
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FIPs , Fudges , conees!

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It's like another country, kinda like Canada, but different.
Link Posted: 8/22/2021 11:58:39 AM EST
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I lived there for 20 years with a couple breaks. It’s got some great outdoors opportunities. But the humidity and mosquitoes in the summer and my allergies keep me away anytime other than fall & winter
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I lived in Michigan.  I like to visit but I don't see myself ever moving back there.  But carry on with your delusions that the state with the Governor that banned garden seeds and tried to ban boating is some how a magical utopia.  
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LOL if you think that is what Michigan is.  Try snow 4 months out of the year covering the crappy roads with car size pot holes.  Some parts of the state register their snow storms in feet not inches.  So what if there is a town with Christmas shops year round.  Once you have been there it is no longer that big of a deal.

Fishing and hunting is good, boating and fishing on multiple great lakes is nice.  There are lots of natural things to explore and do if you like the outdoors.  


No you're wrong SWIRE

I lived in Michigan.  I like to visit but I don't see myself ever moving back there.  But carry on with your delusions that the state with the Governor that banned garden seeds and tried to ban boating is some how a magical utopia.  


That handgun registration thing too.
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Google image search "frostbite"  Safe Search = Off
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lol, no.

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Michigan has a fuck ton of water though
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All the authoritarianism reminds you of home, eh?

Michigan has a fuck ton of water though
The tap water in flint is particularly recommended for its nutty lead flavor, but you can alternatively have dioxin flavored DOW runoff water in Midland.
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Anything East of Lansing is a shithole!
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This Californian is moving to Michigan.

Between Christmas stuff, the amazing Mexican food, snow in some places, and nice people, I hope you welcome me as one of your own.

I will hunt deer and fish ice, my dear michigander souls.

I thank you and hope many will follow my path.


Anything East of Lansing is a shithole!



Lansing is a shit hole. Jackson is worse. Some nice small towns in the area though.
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Northern Michigan is amazing.
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I'm done defending and I am done bashing that state.

One of the most happy days of my life was seeing that state in my rear view.

Not for nothing, but Mexican food is always local. SW D has some places that haven't been rivaled yet by where I live now.

I miss the food options up there and the music scene.

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Same here!
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This Californian is moving to Michigan.

Between Christmas stuff, the amazing Mexican food, snow in some places, and nice people, I hope you welcome me as one of your own.

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I thank you and hope many will follow my path.
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I have lived all over the US and in England. I've been in Michigan for 30 years and it's the best place I have lived, and that includes California.
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It’s where you can get those cool bullet hole stickers for your car. Except not stickers.
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I only ever see then in Ann Arbor and hippy towns like Royal Oak.
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