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Posted: 8/22/2021 6:49:14 PM EST
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Posted: 8/22/2021 7:13:30 PM EST
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Are Chaldean party stores still a thing?
This is probably a mostly Detroit / SE MI thing I remember a generally great selection of alcoholic beverages, home made/store made salamis/sausage/jerky, pizza, some even had ribs and in at least one you could drop your deer off for processing. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 7:38:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Michigan, that part of Ohio that nobody wanted. And is Detroit still glowing neon green?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol, stop. Nobody wants to move to Ohio. Quoted: No kidding. I'd work in Cinci but live in Kentucky. And is Detroit still glowing neon green? |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 7:50:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brightons where all the militias are And Traverse City is awesome, how dare you sir. We just got back from a weekend of visiting wineries/breweries in Traverse City. Beautiful area, even if it is very liberal. |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 8:01:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We just got back from a weekend of visiting wineries/breweries in Traverse City. Beautiful area, even if it is very liberal. Trump won grand traverse county |
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Posted: 8/22/2021 8:15:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did 7 long years across Ohio and lived on Erie. Only redeeming quality is "slightly" better walleye fishing. Love how people throw in Detroit as a reason why to hate MI. A job offer in any part of Ohio that is x4 my pay and it would be an automatic no.  |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 6:33:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are Chaldean party stores still a thing? This is probably a mostly Detroit / SE MI thing I remember a generally great selection of alcoholic beverages, home made/store made salamis/sausage/jerky, pizza, some even had ribs and in at least one you could drop your deer off for processing. Yep. And hair salons too. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 7:09:40 AM EST
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If Northern Michigan got their act together to form their own state, it would be a damn nice place for a conservative to move to. Hell even Thomas Jefferson proposed the creation of a separate Northern Michigan!
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Posted: 8/23/2021 7:23:34 AM EST
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I'd guess your biggest shock coming from CA will be the winters. The last few seem to last at least 5 months, and it does get a bit tiresome. Ann Arbor people kinda blow, generally. Although Detroit is pretty much a shithole, if you stick to the downtown pockets, it's fine. Yes, NW areas along Lake Michigan have some super liberal places, you can still enjoy vacations there without it being a factor. UP is stellar. It's like a whole other state.
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Posted: 8/23/2021 7:32:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Michigan, that part of Ohio that nobody wanted. And is Detroit still glowing neon green? Always remember, Michigan is Superior but Ohio is Eerie. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 1:59:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your wife doesn't love Christmas as much as I do. @SolidState How many Christmas gifts have you bought already? A package just got delivered, a Christmas gift my wife had ordered a couple weeks back arrived. I asked her if it was the first one for this year or she had purchased others, she responded it was the first package. The package itself contained multiple gifts in it. When I mentioned this thread she agreed that you might love it more but quickly followed up by saying she wants to make a trip up to Bronner's as she saw it mentioned in the other thread. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 2:06:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No don't delete this, Michigan is the best, all the Illinois people should go to Michigan for vacation but not the UP, definitely don't go through Wisconsin, its absolutely horrible here. Also anyone looking to move to Wisconsin should move to Michigan Going to the dells!! 
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Posted: 8/23/2021 2:08:47 PM EST
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Posted: 8/23/2021 2:25:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @SolidState How many Christmas gifts have you bought already? A package just got delivered, a Christmas gift my wife had ordered a couple weeks back arrived. I asked her if it was the first one for this year or she had purchased others, she responded it was the first package. The package itself contained multiple gifts in it. When I mentioned this thread she agreed that you might love it more but quickly followed up by saying she wants to make a trip up to Bronner's as she saw it mentioned in the other thread.  So you're going to Bronner's CHRISTmas Wonderland!!? I'm sorry man, what started as harmless fun, turned into real consequences. I need to quit drinking. But I'm sure she loves Christmas more, I barely celebrate it, I'm just by myself, kinda sad really. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 2:54:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Michigan, that part of Ohio that nobody wanted. And is Detroit still glowing neon green? Michigan and Ohio almost went to war over a 10 mile wide strip of land between them. The feds gave Ohio the land and gave Michigam the U.P. We win. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 4:32:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Michigan and Ohio almost went to war over a 10 mile wide strip of land between them. The feds gave Ohio the land and gave Michigam the U.P. We win. toledo war, you can have it back. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 4:34:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are Chaldean party stores still a thing? This is probably a mostly Detroit / SE MI thing I remember a generally great selection of alcoholic beverages, home made/store made salamis/sausage/jerky, pizza, some even had ribs and in at least one you could drop your deer off for processing. Yep, sure are. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 5:11:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you're going to Bronner's CHRISTmas Wonderland!!? I'm sorry man, what started as harmless fun, turned into real consequences. I need to quit drinking. But I'm sure she loves Christmas more, I barely celebrate it, I'm just by myself, kinda sad really. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @SolidState How many Christmas gifts have you bought already? A package just got delivered, a Christmas gift my wife had ordered a couple weeks back arrived. I asked her if it was the first one for this year or she had purchased others, she responded it was the first package. The package itself contained multiple gifts in it. When I mentioned this thread she agreed that you might love it more but quickly followed up by saying she wants to make a trip up to Bronner's as she saw it mentioned in the other thread. So you're going to Bronner's CHRISTmas Wonderland!!? I'm sorry man, what started as harmless fun, turned into real consequences. I need to quit drinking. But I'm sure she loves Christmas more, I barely celebrate it, I'm just by myself, kinda sad really. Your good. The thread is a fun thread. I got pulled away on other things or I would have continued posting. I had planned to take her and the daughters there one time any way. It is worth seeing, once. Of course that trip will also have to include eating at Tony's. The ridiculousness of both locations go together. |
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Posted: 8/23/2021 9:19:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So does California, in fact, an entire ocean.  
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Posted: 8/23/2021 10:50:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are Chaldean party stores still a thing? Used to work with a guy that talked about opening "The Last American Party Store" not sure that would fly today. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 4:46:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @jchewie1 Pure Michigan. Woot!  Yooper here, not far from Lake Superior. Moose, bears, deer, turkey, ducks, geese, sharptail, woodcock, coyotes, in the backyard. Outstanding fishing in any direction. Lots of great minded people. Going to fire a couple of 20 gauge blasts off the balcony in a few, just because. Can be a bit brisk in the winter, but not too hot in the summer. I haven't read the thread but hopefully Paul has responded with his experience. COVID travel restrictions have cut down on the number of grumpy Canadians. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 4:50:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It be honest it’s not much different down here, but I’m 30 min to the border of MI. Nobody talks about the Midwest and the fact that it has a whole lotta grey for about half the year. The people are pretty awesome though. Going through Midwest seasons year after year makes you a pretty hardy individual. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I loved Michigan but was ready to eat a bullet by March every year. SAD is a bitch up there. It be honest it’s not much different down here, but I’m 30 min to the border of MI. Nobody talks about the Midwest and the fact that it has a whole lotta grey for about half the year. The people are pretty awesome though. Going through Midwest seasons year after year makes you a pretty hardy individual. Move north. When the big lake gets mostly frozen the skies clear up. 10 years in the Grand Rapids area, seeing 10 days of sun between November and April were enough. Any given winter day in the UP will likely be sunny. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 4:56:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's like another country, kinda like Canada, but different.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Isn’t the UP of Michigan another state? It's like another country, kinda like Canada, but different. Come on now, it's great here!
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:01:21 PM EST
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Love Michigan!
Might be moving that way soon |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:06:03 PM EST
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There are a lot of Coleman lanterns in MI. That's a hint.
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:06:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't hunt, so automatically weird. I would like to move to dewitt or st John's, maybe the UP some day. Anything specific about those areas? Job already lined up? Long way between there and the UP, and the UP covers a LOT of territory! |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:06:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Love Michigan! Might be moving that way soon |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:07:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Love you some Highway brine induced fender rust, nothing says Midwest better than automotive sheet metal flapping in the wind. When I'm done with my vehicle (cause it rusted to pieces) nobody else wants it either. 
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:10:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, Are ya looking for a Hootch with property? How about a working farm, 14yr old house in a 10A mature woodlot, Lake Mich 3 Miles away, Dozens of lakes nearby, multiple rivers, Public tail for the sled at a rear corner of the Field, that is open for hiking, Biking, and horseback, as well as X-country skiing and sleds in the winter. Only one neighbor on the road, with Deer, Turkey, and small game in abundance? Gotta sell in the fall. I'm done farming, and the wife got a transfer option out of state. Bought the farm for the field, and a place to build our forever house...That didn't work out. Did I mention Two pole Barns, and multiple wells, and LOOOW taxes, with a next to zero crime rate?? Hell, there's only 1,400 people in the whole Township. PM Sent |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:13:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Come to da UP!! We have tons of whitefish! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Love Michigan! Might be moving that way soon I have family up in lake linden that teaches at Michigan tech. Love it. And the fish frys 
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:14:44 PM EST
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What part of MI? I've been curious about Lansing beings it's come up at home.
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:15:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pure Michigan. Woot! Yooper here, not far from Lake Superior. Moose, bears, deer, turkey, ducks, geese, sharptail, woodcock, coyotes, in the backyard. Outstanding fishing in any direction. Lots of great minded people. Going to fire a couple of 20 gauge blasts off the balcony in a few, just because. Can be a bit brisk in the winter, but not too hot in the summer. I haven't read the thread but hopefully Paul has responded with his experience. COVID travel restrictions have cut down on the number of grumpy Canadians. Has the UP gotten better, idk what term I'd use, but "economically"? I read some doom & gloom articles about it when I was researching where I might want to live. I wish I could of stayed in MI as once I got away from the colleges I really enjoyed it, I just couldn't find a job in the late 2000's. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:18:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has the UP gotten better, idk what term I'd use, but "economically"? I read some doom & gloom articles about it when I was researching where I might want to live. I wish I could of stayed in MI as once I got away from the colleges I really enjoyed it, I just couldn't find a job in the late 2000's. Limited population, but there are a few good jobs and some good opportunities. They will vary by area, the UP covers a LOT of territory. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:29:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, Are ya looking for a Hootch with property? How about a working farm, 14yr old house in a 10A mature woodlot, Lake Mich 3 Miles away, Dozens of lakes nearby, multiple rivers, Public tail for the sled at a rear corner of the Field, that is open for hiking, Biking, and horseback, as well as X-country skiing and sleds in the winter. Only one neighbor on the road, with Deer, Turkey, and small game in abundance? Gotta sell in the fall. I'm done farming, and the wife got a transfer option out of state. Bought the farm for the field, and a place to build our forever house...That didn't work out. Did I mention Two pole Barns, and multiple wells, and LOOOW taxes, with a next to zero crime rate?? Hell, there's only 1,400 people in the whole Township. Sorry I had to scroll back to this. It sounds amazing. Unfortunately I don't know anything about farming and I'd hate to be one of those people in a farming community who takes over some land and doesn't use it for farming, or not know how and drag everyone else down. I am still working and just recently started looking into relocating, but primarily looking for utility/pipeline maintenance types of jobs in any state other than here. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 5:44:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What part of MI? I've been curious about Lansing beings it's come up at home. Lansing's not great. It's a beat up looking town with crime. They had a pet store we'd go to a lot, it's where I got my cat...and Lugnut games were kinda fun. I didn't really care for East Lansing either to be honest. I enjoy the campus and some spots on Red Cedar, but otherwise, just a normal town. I'm not very outgoing, I'd usually go straight from school to home in Dewitt, and I enjoyed Dewitt with it's Meijer, Little Ceasar's, a Chinese food place across the street and Mexican food place, and lots of places to run or go fishing nearby than I did in East Lansing. To me where Michigan shines is when you go north, away from the college towns, away from Detroit. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 6:09:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your good. The thread is a fun thread. I got pulled away on other things or I would have continued posting. I had planned to take her and the daughters there one time any way. It is worth seeing, once. Of course that trip will also have to include eating at Tony's. The ridiculousness of both locations go together. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 6:26:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry I had to scroll back to this. It sounds amazing. Unfortunately I don't know anything about farming and I'd hate to be one of those people in a farming community who takes over some land and doesn't use it for farming, or not know how and drag everyone else down. I am still working and just recently started looking into relocating, but primarily looking for utility/pipeline maintenance types of jobs in any state other than here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OP, Are ya looking for a Hootch with property? How about a working farm, 14yr old house in a 10A mature woodlot, Lake Mich 3 Miles away, Dozens of lakes nearby, multiple rivers, Public tail for the sled at a rear corner of the Field, that is open for hiking, Biking, and horseback, as well as X-country skiing and sleds in the winter. Only one neighbor on the road, with Deer, Turkey, and small game in abundance? Gotta sell in the fall. I'm done farming, and the wife got a transfer option out of state. Bought the farm for the field, and a place to build our forever house...That didn't work out. Did I mention Two pole Barns, and multiple wells, and LOOOW taxes, with a next to zero crime rate?? Hell, there's only 1,400 people in the whole Township. Sorry I had to scroll back to this. It sounds amazing. Unfortunately I don't know anything about farming and I'd hate to be one of those people in a farming community who takes over some land and doesn't use it for farming, or not know how and drag everyone else down. I am still working and just recently started looking into relocating, but primarily looking for utility/pipeline maintenance types of jobs in any state other than here. Try Consumers Energy. Their new and renewal side tends to hire a lot. Experience is a plus. You WILL work a lot of OT and probably do some travelling. On the plus side you then have bidding rights to get into the gas lines and gas service side as far as gas and other union [yeah yeah, it pays well and a F off is plenty for the VERY few libs] jobs. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 6:35:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Come on now, it's great here! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Isn’t the UP of Michigan another state? It's like another country, kinda like Canada, but different. Come on now, it's great here! I didn't say it was bad, it's just different. I love the U.P., but don't think I could live up there full time. One of my favorite places to camp is at Brevort lake. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 6:36:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey Ohio! Go fuck yourself! Seriously though, I love Michigan for all its dichotomies. Heavy Union, but Union guys want to hunt and carry guns. Lotsa immigrants, but they're often very right wing. Yeah our current governor sucks, but most local politicians understand that there's a line you don't wanna cross. Things could be better, but we're better than Ohio!!!  Where do people come up with this shit? Our immigrant population is overwhelmingly liberal. We have shit tons of Arabs, mexicans, Indians, Asians and they sure as hell aren't voting GOP. Please cite |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 6:55:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't say it was bad, it's just different. I love the U.P., but don't think I could live up there full time. One of my favorite places to camp is at Brevort lake. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 6:59:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where do people come up with this shit? Our immigrant population is overwhelmingly liberal. We have shit tons of Arabs, mexicans, Indians, Asians and they sure as hell aren't voting GOP. Please cite |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 7:04:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't say it was bad, it's just different. I love the U.P., but don't think I could live up there full time. One of my favorite places to camp is at Brevort lake. Beautiful area. We ice fish on Little Brevoort frequently. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 7:06:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny, my property taxes are low as fuck. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm originally from CA and moved to MI. That lasted about a year before moving to IN. I do own a house up there, the property taxes are ridiculous. You probably get the homestead exemption. I’m paying almost 5k a year for a house we paid 160k for in MI. My house here I recently sold for just shy of a million and was paying 8k a year. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 7:08:00 PM EST
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My experience of living in northeast ohio for my whole life and mid michigan for the last 2 and a half years has been this. The sun does come out a lot more in Michigan than ohio, and it seems like ohio got more precipitation (at least ne ohio), however when Michigan gets storms, they seem to be more violent and severe than the average ohio thunderstorms.
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Posted: 8/24/2021 8:26:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Try Consumers Energy. Their new and renewal side tends to hire a lot. Experience is a plus. You WILL work a lot of OT and probably do some travelling. On the plus side you then have bidding rights to get into the gas lines and gas service side as far as gas and other union [yeah yeah, it pays well and a F off is plenty for the VERY few libs] jobs. I have experience. Thanks! I'll check them out. I don't know why I didn't think of Consumer's, I've only searched DTE for some reason. I've never dug holes in snow, always imagined it being terrible. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 8:54:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks! I'll check them out. I don't know why I didn't think of Consumer's, I've only searched DTE for some reason. I used to work for DTE. They cover most of the thumb of Michigan. If you can get work outside of Detroit then it you can work in some really areas or rural areas. They train everyone employee how to manage down lines and every down line needs someone watching them until they fixed. That means lots of paid OT which is great...the only problem is the major storms are ice storm in March and thunder/wind storms around July 4th. Their tree crews are completely contracted out. A lot of the line crews are contractors as well. The day to day tasks are/were employees though, such as line inspections and pole testing. It was/is a solid company. You don't want to work in any of their Detroit area facilities. The facilities are fine the area around them are some of the worst of the worst. My car broke down, luckily right in front of a convenience store, unluckily with 15 youths standing on the other side of the street. I walk in the shop, all encased in bullet proof glass, and the guy behind it said "You should not be here. Do not go back outside". Thankfully a gun nut I worked with happened to leave a few minutes behind me, saw my car and stopped. We decided the best move was use his truck and push my car 5 miles up the road to a slightly safer area. I have no clue what would have happened if he hadn't shown up or stopped. I'm sure everyone I worked with has retired or moved on now, as it was 1996-1999 when I worked there and most people were around 40 or older then. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 8:58:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Try Consumers Energy. Their new and renewal side tends to hire a lot. Experience is a plus. You WILL work a lot of OT and probably do some travelling. On the plus side you then have bidding rights to get into the gas lines and gas service side as far as gas and other union [yeah yeah, it pays well and a F off is plenty for the VERY few libs] jobs. Consumer's gas line crew my buddy works with normally has a crew of 130, and are working with about 80. So, jobs available. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 9:02:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 5 gal bucket of stew or dine in and the bacon comes by the pound LOL Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your good. The thread is a fun thread. I got pulled away on other things or I would have continued posting. I had planned to take her and the daughters there one time any way. It is worth seeing, once. Of course that trip will also have to include eating at Tony's. The ridiculousness of both locations go together. I’m telling you guys, ordinarily I’d leave it be but Tony’s has been cited many times for re-serving left over food from guests who have left… This is for your health, not because I’m trying to be a dick because their food is average or below… |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 9:05:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm telling you guys, ordinarily I'd leave it be but Tony's has been cited many times for re-serving left over food from guests who have left This is for your health, not because I'm trying to be a dick because their food is average or below Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Your good. The thread is a fun thread. I got pulled away on other things or I would have continued posting. I had planned to take her and the daughters there one time any way. It is worth seeing, once. Of course that trip will also have to include eating at Tony's. The ridiculousness of both locations go together. I'm telling you guys, ordinarily I'd leave it be but Tony's has been cited many times for re-serving left over food from guests who have left This is for your health, not because I'm trying to be a dick because their food is average or below That does not surprise me. The last time I was there the bacon was way over cooked and tasted like they fried it in the same grease they use to fry fish. Burnt fish bacon...yum. Still it one of those things you try once just to do it. Average or below is an accurate description of the food I saw. I forget what I ordered, I at the rest of it but barely touched the bacon. |
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Posted: 8/24/2021 10:00:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to work for DTE. They cover most of the thumb of Michigan. If you can get work outside of Detroit then it you can work in some really areas or rural areas. They train everyone employee how to manage down lines and every down line needs someone watching them until they fixed. That means lots of paid OT which is great...the only problem is the major storms are ice storm in March and thunder/wind storms around July 4th. Their tree crews are completely contracted out. A lot of the line crews are contractors as well. The day to day tasks are/were employees though, such as line inspections and pole testing. It was/is a solid company. You don't want to work in any of their Detroit area facilities. The facilities are fine the area around them are some of the worst of the worst. My car broke down, luckily right in front of a convenience store, unluckily with 15 youths standing on the other side of the street. I walk in the shop, all encased in bullet proof glass, and the guy behind it said "You should not be here. Do not go back outside". Thankfully a gun nut I worked with happened to leave a few minutes behind me, saw my car and stopped. We decided the best move was use his truck and push my car 5 miles up the road to a slightly safer area. I have no clue what would have happened if he hadn't shown up or stopped. I'm sure everyone I worked with has retired or moved on now, as it was 1996-1999 when I worked there and most people were around 40 or older then. Yeah I just looked, their verbiage is a little different for job titles but now it's making sense, I guess all utilities are the same lol. I'm familiar with the safe Detroit, I have only driven through other parts of Detroit, which were eye opening. Definitely have to have your head on a swivel working in the ghetto. |
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