Not sure... but i do see them more than the city PD...

Side note... passed a city boy the other day... had a headlight and tail light out...

Problem is that this has been going on for over a decade or more in Flint.

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GTFO with that bullshit.

If that were true, they'd tell people to slow down and not actually write the silly tickets.

The lies cops tell to keep their dental coverage

They fill in as needed. Genessee County SO is an odd duck. Their "Paramedic Division" is actually larger than their Law Enforcement division.

All their Paramedics are fully certified LEO's, and answer EMS calls as well as regular LE calls. Because of a lack of Ambulance and EMS services in the county and Flint, the Sheriff's Office is one of the primary EMS providers in the county.



https://www.gcsomichigan.com/copy-of-home

Their Law Division handles a few contracted Townships in the county, as well as schools and Hurley Hospital in Flint.

Michigan State Police has a beefy presence in Flint, but they don't generally answer calls for service unless needed. As part of their deployment to Flint, they focus on proactive patrols.

Dude... you couldn't be more wrong.

The shit I get I to with petty stops. Unreal the amount of hard drugs and stolen guns

That don't have a fucking thing to do with what I just said.

If you pull over somebody because they were doing 40 in a 35 and you find absolutely zero crime involved and you still give them a speeding ticket, you're a small dick faggot.

Edit
You & you're meaning any cop who does that shit

I dunno about small dick faggots, but I agree. I don't write petty tickets unless I need to issue a probable cause ticket.

I give just about everyone and their mother all sorts of breaks

@Fish1856

The 165 was also counting all the command staff and reserve cops. What was full time working the road on a given day was maybe 8 guys a shift if you were lucky.

I finished watching it last night.  Flint seems like how I imagine shit in 3rd world shit holes.  It's pitiful.  I'm not in law enforcement so I couldn't figure out why some of those cops wanted those jobs.
The Cheif asks the town to keep the mileage in order to keep police officers on duty and then the city council directs the funds elsewhere.  Then some of the people featured in the show can't figure out why the rest of the country doesn't just throw money at Flint to fix it's problems.  

I've been to Flint a few times

Don't want to ever go back if I could

I hope the show is good

That was hilarious, the chief actually thought he was getting that money.

Not surprising.

I have no dental coverage

Full-time law enforcement employees in 2016, including police officers: 117 (103 officers).
Officers per 1,000 residents here:1.06
Michigan average:1.74

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Flint-Michigan.html#ixzz5Ax6l3cZC

Not seeing the big deal...  They are close to their state avg, sorta...

In WI it is an average of 2.06 officers per 1000 people.

Oh, two guys per car. That makes sense. Your back-up is in the car. They can handle up to four 911 calls at any time. That's not good up for a high-crime city. I wonder if the MSP have units regularly on the Flint PD channel, or if the dispatcher calls them up on the MSP channel.

We have just a little more Per Capita.

But then, we ain't Flint either.

Lol ok.

Kind of like gun owners voting for Republicans.

Get used to it. This is the future of all of America. There isn't a police department, corrections department etc....in the entire country that isn't below recommended staffing levels. With under staffing, low pay, and poor morale and LEO authority, comes corruption.

Welcome to the Turd World "Murrica!".....

The only time it's been an issue has been when I needed root canals and crowns.
Until I hit 50 all I ever needed was routine dental care twice a year.
My dad was always focused on routine dental care when I was a kid; twice a year, rain or shine..
Unfortunately, in retrospect, he picked an old school dentist who believed in drilling a lot without using any Novocain.

Do the locals have a preference in who they interact with?

Plano is a really nice area, Flint is competing with tribal Africa in terms of civility and safety.

They elect those that represent themsleves.

Fuck that. Sounds awful. Cue up two domestics at the same time and you better hope nothing else serious pops off or you're up shits creek

Lol.

Some departments here in NJ have 1 guy on for 5k to 10k population.

It took almost 15 minutes to get a car to me when I called in my attempted carjacking. They never got out of the SUV.

We have over 5k officers for a population of over 2mil in Houston, with another army of supporting officers from surrounding county Sheriffs offices (but who have another 2-4mil population).  Response times are pretty bad.  Talk to the guys on duty a it seems about 50/50 for worthless to those hustling their ass off.  I dont think the numbers matter for any town the job requirement is ridiculous.

Many (or the general public) hate the cops but yet call them for everything!  So there so much time waste, they cannot be effective or efficient with the serious stuff.

Large neighborhoods like the one I live in use our dreaded HOA funds to pay off duty offices to patrol our neighborhood 24/7.  It improves local response time significantly, but not everyone can afford that.

I have no idea what the fix is, but it certainly is a delicate or already broken balance.

Can't speak for Flint but in Detroit the Black community is not particulary enamored of the State boys, from what I've seen.

Detroit has a park called Belle Isle that was absolutely beautiful, but fell into disrepair over the years and had big problems with crime, trash, etc.

The State leased it from the city long-term and runs it now as a State Park. It's beautiful. Clean, the bathrooms are open, the trash is emptied. Everything is fixed.

Still tons of people, White, Black, and undecided, using the park and not being messed with.

Lots of Black politicians, writers, "community activists", etc, along with the usual White liberals, were all up in arms (still are) that the Michigan State Police were taking over law enforcement in the park, which is (obviously) inside the city.

Lots of words like "overeager enforcement", "heavy handedness", "don't understand the culture", "army of occupation", blah blah blah, and of course, "racism".

They're just mad that the cops actually enforce the law and you can't race around the perimeter at triple the speed limit blaring your stupid radio anymore, or disturb the peace, or openly use drugs, or leave trash all over the place like a fucking pig.

Even the Chaplain of another police department (Black) had a piece in one of the local liberal rags that was hostile, sneering, mocking, belittling of the State Police, saying he imagined they would be like Barney Fife, trembling, holding his oversized pistol while they effected an unnecessary stop on a car full of young Black men just because they were Black.

They aren't afraid of anything. What they did was go in and get shit under control lickety fucking split. They even gave warnings for most things for several months (a local politician was up in arms because she got pulled over at double the speed limit. They let her go with a warning, but it was still racist, of course).  But they caught a bunch of people with warrants, unregistered cars, no license, no insurance, etc.

Now the trash avoids the island. Anyone, any race, can go there with a group of people, act like a human being, and eventually go about their business unmolested. Just don't be an asshole. But apparently requiring people act civilized in public is an assault on civil rights.

Gee, a department not held back from doing their job?

And it gets results?

Surprise, surprise.

The NJ State Police had the unfortunate job of conducting urban enforcement.  They are good at it, but the locals hate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN87srZhwsk

MSP is the Honey Badger. And the Honey Badger don't give a shit.

I grew up in a town of 7,000 people.
We only had 3 cops.

Flint has been a shithole my entire life.  GM did pull a huge number of jobs out in the mid-80s.

There's a pretty interesting book, Rivethead about the decline of GM in Flint, and what working at GM was like in that era.  (The author is one of Michael Moore's buddies, so maybe get it from the library rather than buy it if that bothers you.)

I used to drive through Flint frequently 10+ years ago.  I only had 2 mags for my only centerfire pistol, but I sure as hell took them both.  At night, everyone treated all red lights like 4-way stops at best, even right in front of cops.

Bet it wasnt close to what Flint is.

So did the citizens that voted for it!

After working retail on MLK ave. and Davidson rd. for twenty years I could write a book on the shit I've seen.
Our store was robbed while I was on the roof patching it. New years eve we would sell every box of ammo in stock . I walked by our inside payphone (way before cell phones) and a bank bag was laying there. Opened and it was full of written lottery numbers and cash . A guy came in crying he would end up in the river without it.
After walking out one night with our security guard and having a gun pointed at us I moved . No money in the world is worth working in that shit hole.

MSP is a very para-military police force in the best sense of the word.  Disciplined, dedicated and consistent.  You generally get the same treatment from them all across the state.

People do not understand how bad Flint really is.   98 cops for that city is like Custer at the Little Big Horn.  Liberal paradise.

I found it to be pretty damn boring.

It was interesting. One thing that really stuck out was the black reverend cop at the end, talking about how "the Government could fix all the problems in inner city's but they don't care about poverty".

I fucking disagree hardcore there. I am 100% against using ANY federal funds to bail out city's like Flint. They squandered and stole the money from citizens and demanding more won't change a single thing. They will keep wasting it, and absolutely nothing will change.

Place's like Flint have so many problem's it's almost not worth saving. It's going to sound really racist to say this, but It's something we all know but probably don't want to admit. The black residents are the reason that  the city and places like Chicago are the way there are. It's a radically different culture and something white people and even other people of color don't want to be around. No one want's to live in a neighborhood where people sell drug's, where gang's sit on porches and where people get shot. They fled the area's back then and will continue to do so. No one is ever going to move back to Flint with the kind of people that are living there now, still living there.

The resident's chose to elect Democrats, and they got exactly what places like Baltimore got. A run down shithole city with a 3rd world style government who will bleed the citizens dry and retire to a different state millionaires. They want to keep protecting gangmembers, allowing their kids to go out at night into the chaos and then sue when the gentle giant get's killed for attacking a cop.

You get what you put into it. And so far, after watching that entire documentary the only thing I saw was a bunch of residents bitching about the cops being racist, and then voting to take funding away and then bitching about high wait times.

I see this as a future warning on the byproduct of gun "control". The Gubbermint takes the guns away and with it your ability to defend yourself and family, then make you wait 27+ hours to even respond to an assault / robbery call. Somewhere in there they mentioned how they did not even respond to active B&E calls. This all goes back to the SCOTUS ruling that the government has no obligation to protect you.

And then they tell you the govt just needs some more of your money to help with policing.  But it doesn't help and then they just need a little more.  Meanwhile the elected officials are getting their pockets lined by their friends and family that are awarded sweetheart contracts.  The cycle repeats.

Damn.  

I'm in Ann Arbor, was gonna drive up and have a look one of these days just for the hell of it.  Maybe not.

http://flintbeat.com/opinion-flint-pd-owes-residents-an-apology-for-abusive-behavior-displayed-in-documentary/

Some people were not fans.

Well there's your problem (in sooooo many ways) right there!. LMAOOO

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