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Posted: 10/5/2021 12:21:37 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Ranger has a 2200lb-3000lb payload rating in the rest of the world. Ford nerfs the US version's payload to make the vastly more profitable F-150 look like more of an upgrade. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They made the ranger too big IMO. The Ranger has a 2200lb-3000lb payload rating in the rest of the world. Ford nerfs the US version's payload to make the vastly more profitable F-150 look like more of an upgrade. That's absurd. There's different standards in different markets. Hauling and "caravaning" around at 45 MPH on global roads is a completely different animal than loading up and burning down US interstates at 70+ MPH. Also, go sit in a Ranger and a F-150 and try convincing yourself the F-150 needs help to look like an upgrade. The Ranger has a cramped shitbox interior that can't comfortably carry adults in the rear seat, the rear seat doesn't have split folding, and there's no flat cargo space back there. The F-150's interior is spacious, versatile, and it gets downright luxurious really quick. Also, the 2.3L EB I4 is an aluminum block, DI only engine that is unlikely to hold up as well as even the lower tier 3.3L V6 and 2.7L EB in the F-150 with any kind of actual use. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 12:28:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Media embargo on driving reviews will likely be lifted tomorrow morning. The straight pipes drove it 3 days ago.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmcQX8DGdTIThey got their example from a dealer instead of Ford themselves. I'm sure that will go well for Ford's media relations folks. Other reviews are out now:  2022 Ford Maverick | Review & Road Test  2022 Ford Maverick First Drive Review |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 12:59:33 PM EDT
[#3]
 I Finally Tow with the New Ford Maverick — and It's Completely Not What I Expected! |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 1:10:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's absurd. There's different standards in different markets. Hauling and "caravaning" around at 45 MPH on global roads is a completely different animal than loading up and burning down US interstates at 70+ MPH. Also, go sit in a Ranger and a F-150 and try convincing yourself the F-150 needs help to look like an upgrade. The Ranger has a cramped shitbox interior that can't comfortably carry adults in the rear seat, the rear seat doesn't have split folding, and there's no flat cargo space back there. The F-150's interior is spacious, versatile, and it gets downright luxurious really quick. Also, the 2.3L EB I4 is an aluminum block, DI only engine that is unlikely to hold up as well as even the lower tier 3.3L V6 and 2.7L EB in the F-150 with any kind of actual use. What's more likely to break drivetrain components? Driving under a heavy load on a slightly improved road surface, or a lighter load on a smooth interstate going faster? |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 1:19:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Damn I didnt think I was ever going to want a new vehicle again...
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Posted: 10/5/2021 1:21:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's more likely to break drivetrain components? Driving under a heavy load on a slightly improved road surface, or a lighter load on a smooth interstate going faster? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's absurd. There's different standards in different markets. Hauling and "caravaning" around at 45 MPH on global roads is a completely different animal than loading up and burning down US interstates at 70+ MPH. Also, go sit in a Ranger and a F-150 and try convincing yourself the F-150 needs help to look like an upgrade. The Ranger has a cramped shitbox interior that can't comfortably carry adults in the rear seat, the rear seat doesn't have split folding, and there's no flat cargo space back there. The F-150's interior is spacious, versatile, and it gets downright luxurious really quick. Also, the 2.3L EB I4 is an aluminum block, DI only engine that is unlikely to hold up as well as even the lower tier 3.3L V6 and 2.7L EB in the F-150 with any kind of actual use. What's more likely to break drivetrain components? Driving under a heavy load on a slightly improved road surface, or a lighter load on a smooth interstate going faster? People fixate on engine and drivetrain stuff, but those are secondary considerations when it comes to payload and towing specs. Chassis, suspension, and brakes are all vastly more important, especially at any kind of speed. Put 2,000+ lbs in the bed of a Ranger and an F-150, and drive US roads at US speeds, and you will notice a major difference. Also, in the "global" context, we're talking about roads like this:  
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Posted: 10/5/2021 1:45:59 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should make a mustang with a truck bed. Did Ford ever have their version of an El Camino? Yes, the Ranchero. ETA, Beaten 16 pages ago.  |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 1:47:44 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should make a mustang with a truck bed. Did Ford ever have their version of an El Camino? |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 1:51:58 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally! A vehicle for people that want less cargo space than a full size truck but want to retain the ability to let their cargo get rained on. Yep, fuck that short bed bullshit. If you can’t haul a mattress in it with the tailgate shut, I’ll pass. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 2:00:54 PM EDT
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We just got our first one at our dealership yesterday. I'm pretty sure we got the first one in our area. XLT AWD with trailer tow and some other options. $29,950. I sold it in two hours. We are actually showing it to some other people for a couple days before he is picking it up. Works out for both of us.
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Posted: 10/5/2021 4:06:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We just got our first one at our dealership yesterday. I'm pretty sure we got the first one in our area. XLT AWD with trailer tow and some other options. $29,950. I sold it in two hours. We are actually showing it to some other people for a couple days before he is picking it up. Works out for both of us. Any idea of how many are in the pipeline? Will they continue to be rare as hen's teeth? |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 4:27:09 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, fuck that short bed bullshit. If you can’t haul a mattress in it with the tailgate shut, I’ll pass. Its almost like not everyone wants or needs the same thing. A crew cab, ultra short bed pickup with a camper shell is about as perfect as it gets for most of my needs. Anything I can't haul in that, I will drag a trailer. Oddly enough, I spend a lot more time not hauling stuff than hauling stuff, and the little short thing fits down trails and two tracks fantastically. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 4:39:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/5/2021 4:41:12 PM EDT
[#14]
I really want to see one in person before I order one.
The dealers around me said they will call me when they get one in Looking at a Base, 2.0L AWD with the max tow Anyone know all the STANDARD differences between the XL and the XLT? |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 5:26:41 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know all the STANDARD differences between the XL and the XLT? The XL does not have cruise control, the mirrors you have to manually adjust with your hands, and no rear seat cupholder armrest. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 5:31:54 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sadly, these are not compact trucks like the ones back in the day. Compact trucks were body on frame, RWD or 4x4. Standard cab, extra cab or 4door (4 door in other countries but not here) These are basically crossovers (unibody/FWD) with the back lopped off. That's what I was wondering about, that sucks. They need a body over frame extended cab/6ft bed with the 2.3 ecoboost and a manual transmission, not this ridgeline BS. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 5:52:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The XL does not have cruise control, the mirrors you have to manually adjust with your hands, and no rear seat cupholder armrest. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone know all the STANDARD differences between the XL and the XLT? The XL does not have cruise control, the mirrors you have to manually adjust with your hands, and no rear seat cupholder armrest. The lack of cruise control is ridiculous but would be a deal killer for me. I won’t commute without it. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 7:55:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what I was wondering about, that sucks. They need a body over frame extended cab/6ft bed with the 2.3 ecoboost and a manual transmission, not this ridgeline BS. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sadly, these are not compact trucks like the ones back in the day. Compact trucks were body on frame, RWD or 4x4. Standard cab, extra cab or 4door (4 door in other countries but not here) These are basically crossovers (unibody/FWD) with the back lopped off. That's what I was wondering about, that sucks. They need a body over frame extended cab/6ft bed with the 2.3 ecoboost and a manual transmission, not this ridgeline BS. Other than a manual trans, that's called a Ranger. And honestly they're saving you from yourself by only offering the auto. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 8:34:16 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They got their example from a dealer instead of Ford themselves. I'm sure that will go well for Ford's media relations folks. Other reviews are out now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHS7MnMAo-k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIgNoOm_N1EQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Media embargo on driving reviews will likely be lifted tomorrow morning. The straight pipes drove it 3 days ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmcQX8DGdTIThey got their example from a dealer instead of Ford themselves. I'm sure that will go well for Ford's media relations folks. Other reviews are out now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHS7MnMAo-k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIgNoOm_N1EAccording to that second video it doesn’t have a CVT. Can someone explain that wizardry to me? I’m only interested in the hybrid, so I’d like to know more about that transmission. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 8:40:18 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: According to that second video it doesn’t have a CVT. Can someone explain that wizardry to me? I’m only interested in the hybrid, so I’d like to know more about that transmission. Similar to what's in the Prius:  2004 - 2009 Prius P112 Hybrid Transaxle (eCVT) Operation |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 9:16:15 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The lack of cruise control is ridiculous but would be a deal killer for me. I won’t commute without it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone know all the STANDARD differences between the XL and the XLT? The XL also comes with steel wheels standard. They actually look kind of cool. The XL does not have cruise control, the mirrors you have to manually adjust with your hands, and no rear seat cupholder armrest. The lack of cruise control is ridiculous but would be a deal killer for me. I won’t commute without it. That was the #1 thing that turned me off the base model. I'd just get that if it had CC, then again I like power windows. You get more bed tie downs as well. The Lariat just has more luxury features but nothing really substantial that you can't get on the XLT. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 9:48:45 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The XL does not have cruise control, the mirrors you have to manually adjust with your hands, and no rear seat cupholder armrest. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 10:13:14 PM EDT
[#23]
Styling is ass
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Posted: 10/5/2021 11:22:31 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone seen one in person yet? I’m seeing several in stock at dealerships when searching inventory on Ford’s site. I've seen it in person and also sell the Hyundai Santa Cruz. The Maverick is alright. Smaller than I thought. Styling is okay. It definitely has the edge over the Santa Cruz when it comes to MSRP and price. Just found out I can get friends and family on the Santa Cruz from Hyundai so that makes it a bit more attractive. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 12:33:56 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Styling is ass Compared to what? The Santa Cruz look like it would fit in at a trans parade hauling all the Bettys waving their weiners to the fans along the route. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 10:23:00 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Styling is ass Nonsense. It's fine for what it is. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 11:36:44 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone seen one in person yet? I’m seeing several in stock at dealerships when searching inventory on Ford’s site. Yes at a dealer in Colorado. It's a vehicle for people who want a car that can haul a lawn mower. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 11:55:22 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any idea of how many are in the pipeline? Will they continue to be rare as hen's teeth? We have two retails and one stock unit scheduled to be built as of right now. So you probably won't see many available on dealer lots for a while. One or two maybe. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 11:56:09 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes at a dealer in Colorado. It's a vehicle for people who want a car that can haul a lawn mower. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone seen one in person yet? I’m seeing several in stock at dealerships when searching inventory on Ford’s site. Yes at a dealer in Colorado. It's a vehicle for people who want a car that can haul a lawn mower. What's wrong with that? But you are deliberately ignoring the actual capacity of the bed. It's designed so you can lay 4x8's in the bed with the tailgate down. It's exactly wide enough. Is this somehow a problem? Sounds pretty awesome to me. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 1:02:25 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's wrong with that? But you are deliberately ignoring the actual capacity of the bed. It's designed so you can lay 4x8's in the bed with the tailgate down. It's exactly wide enough. Is this somehow a problem? Sounds pretty awesome to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone seen one in person yet? I’m seeing several in stock at dealerships when searching inventory on Ford’s site. Yes at a dealer in Colorado. It's a vehicle for people who want a car that can haul a lawn mower. What's wrong with that? But you are deliberately ignoring the actual capacity of the bed. It's designed so you can lay 4x8's in the bed with the tailgate down. It's exactly wide enough. Is this somehow a problem? Sounds pretty awesome to me. Think the video I watched yesterday said you could carry 15-16 sheets of half inch plywood... seems pretty solid load |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 1:04:39 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: According to that second video it doesn’t have a CVT. Can someone explain that wizardry to me? I’m only interested in the hybrid, so I’d like to know more about that transmission. Similar to what's in the Prius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmHpSyTsfm0Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 1:06:27 PM EDT
[#32]
Wrong thread.
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Posted: 10/6/2021 1:06:38 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes at a dealer in Colorado. It's a vehicle for people who want a car that can haul a lawn mower. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone seen one in person yet? I’m seeing several in stock at dealerships when searching inventory on Ford’s site. Yes at a dealer in Colorado. It's a vehicle for people who want a car that can haul a lawn mower. Sounds great! |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 1:07:43 PM EDT
[#34]
When I go to the Ford site they list a couplea dozen available in my area?
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Posted: 10/6/2021 1:08:59 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When I go to the Ford site they list a couplea dozen available in my area? Ford’s website will also show those in transit to dealers, you’ll have to visit the dealers website for a slightly more accurate report of available. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 1:21:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ford’s website will also show those in transit to dealers, you’ll have to visit the dealers website for a slightly more accurate report of available. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When I go to the Ford site they list a couplea dozen available in my area? Ford’s website will also show those in transit to dealers, you’ll have to visit the dealers website for a slightly more accurate report of available. Yep. I just stopped at the local Ford dealer and asked, they said it’s in transit. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 3:04:02 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Think the video I watched yesterday said you could carry 15-16 sheets of half inch plywood... seems pretty solid load Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone seen one in person yet? I’m seeing several in stock at dealerships when searching inventory on Ford’s site. Yes at a dealer in Colorado. It's a vehicle for people who want a car that can haul a lawn mower. What's wrong with that? But you are deliberately ignoring the actual capacity of the bed. It's designed so you can lay 4x8's in the bed with the tailgate down. It's exactly wide enough. Is this somehow a problem? Sounds pretty awesome to me. Think the video I watched yesterday said you could carry 15-16 sheets of half inch plywood... seems pretty solid load For what it is, it seems very well thought out. All I need is a reasonably efficient daily driver that I can use to go buy a new stove or easy chair and haul a trailer when I have to help my kids move at college. They are even saying the back seat isn't too cramped. Being able to carry my wife and kids while I do so is a major bonus. For me an F150 or even a Frontier would be overkill. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 3:07:15 PM EDT
[#38]
Any larger guys sat in one yet? Will my arm touch the door like a frontier?
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Posted: 10/6/2021 4:21:29 PM EDT
[#39]
Gayer than the Ridgeline or the Bronco sport
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Posted: 10/6/2021 4:36:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2021 5:03:23 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should make a mustang with a truck bed. Did Ford ever have their version of an El Camino?  The Mustang conversion with a truck bed. 1966 Mustang Mustero Converted by dealer in Beverly Hills, approved by Ford. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 5:14:59 PM EDT
[#42]
I am not a small truck guy. But I like the looks of that "truck" thing.
If I hadn't just bought the wife a new car in May, I'd be trying to get her interested in one of those. I like the idea of that little turbo charged 4 cyl. with the 8 spd. automatic and all wheel drive for a winter car for her and a run around town shopping car any time of the year. Our other two cars are 2 dr. coupes and while fun to drive, you can't really take more than one person shopping with you (unless they are very small.) |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 5:25:29 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should make a mustang with a truck bed. Did Ford ever have their version of an El Camino? Ranchero |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 8:41:32 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not a small truck guy. But I like the looks of that "truck" thing. If I hadn't just bought the wife a new car in May, I'd be trying to get her interested in one of those. I like the idea of that little turbo charged 4 cyl. with the 8 spd. automatic and all wheel drive for a winter car for her and a run around town shopping car any time of the year. Our other two cars are 2 dr. coupes and while fun to drive, you can't really take more than one person shopping with you (unless they are very small.) It really seems to hit all the notes for combining economy and practicality. For people that don't want or need a full sized truck this thing is ideal. We live in kind of dense suburbia and a big truck would be a liability most of the time unless you need it for work. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 9:03:05 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It really seems to hit all the notes for combining economy and practicality. For people that don't want or need a full sized truck this thing is ideal. We live in kind of dense suburbia and a big truck would be a liability most of the time unless you need it for work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am not a small truck guy. But I like the looks of that "truck" thing. If I hadn't just bought the wife a new car in May, I'd be trying to get her interested in one of those. I like the idea of that little turbo charged 4 cyl. with the 8 spd. automatic and all wheel drive for a winter car for her and a run around town shopping car any time of the year. Our other two cars are 2 dr. coupes and while fun to drive, you can't really take more than one person shopping with you (unless they are very small.) It really seems to hit all the notes for combining economy and practicality. For people that don't want or need a full sized truck this thing is ideal. We live in kind of dense suburbia and a big truck would be a liability most of the time unless you need it for work. yeah it's fairly ideal... the price is annoying because I have a car that's nearly paid off.. it's great car, fun and has a massive trunk but it's a coupe that isn't hugely practical in a homeowner sense... bought a 50" TV the other day @ Costco, took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to get it into the car  ... this "truck" is affordable enough it's got me thinking of jumping even tho I have a great vehicle already... this would just be much more practical, and IMO it's great looking.. |
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Posted: 10/12/2021 10:05:26 AM EDT
[#46]
Just saw one for the first time. Heading the opposite direction on the highway, so I only got a brief glance. After reflecting on what I saw, it actually was bigger than I expected. I was expecting it to look a lot smaller in traffic.
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Posted: 10/12/2021 10:13:59 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your friend should try going to a car wash every once in awhile. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A friend has a 2005 ford pickup with 70,000 miles that is garage kept...it and its rusted frame are headed to the junkyard...F Ford! Your friend should try going to a car wash every once in awhile. Salted roads have always done this. |
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Posted: 10/12/2021 10:15:28 AM EDT
[#48]
I saw one in the wild last night. Honestly, I thought it was a RidgeLine until I saw the Ford symbol.
I'll pass. |
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Posted: 10/12/2021 10:19:17 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryThat's hawt. |
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Posted: 10/12/2021 11:06:16 AM EDT
[#50]
The more I see the more I like it. More practical than a car and larger than the Bronco Sport that it's based on. I'll probably buy one in a year or two.
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