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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:14:39 AM EDT
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Lots of scammers in Pakistan. It looks like a good fake, if it is, but 2500 is steep for dollars. Rupees? 25 bucks would be a definite fake.
Are you in Karachi or Lahore? You try any of the neehari or brain masala? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:17:53 AM EDT
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Islamabad, and No I don't partake in the local offerings as far as food.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:21:45 AM EDT
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Shopkeepers current asking is $2500 dunno if that was American money or Pakistani money (1:100 +/-)... Gonna send my driver back to try to negotiate to see if they have a real price. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How much they asking for it? Shopkeepers current asking is $2500 dunno if that was American money or Pakistani money (1:100 +/-)... Gonna send my driver back to try to negotiate to see if they have a real price. Even if totally legit, $2,500.00 is WAY on the high side IMO. Now if it is closer to $25.00, then heck yeah. |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:23:22 AM EDT
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The engraving and finish don't look good to me. Look up some of the verified colt engraved guns to compare. I guess it could be the pics making it look bad, but I dont think so. And the "Gen Zachary" part makes me even more suspicious that its tourist bait--there's a reason rare guns are valuable, they're actually rare. Best case, IMO, you've got a real gun that was "Akbarr'd", or whatever the paki version of bubba'd is, and it would be worth shooter value, maybe. But, I'm no expert. There is an appraisal board I've used--gunvalues board, and they should be able to tell you pretty quick. Good luck, and hopefully I'm wrong.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:25:20 AM EDT
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The "bone" may be a walrus penis bone(Baculum)
 Really,I'm no joking!
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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:26:35 AM EDT
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No way those roll marks were done by an Afridi, I'd bet dollars to pesos that revolver started life in Hartford.
As for the other markings and engravings, that's a bit more difficult to nail down. |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:30:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just take it, it does say "United States Property". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dont care what I had to do, I would bring that back home. Just take it, it does say "United States Property".  , 
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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:37:20 AM EDT
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The "bone" may be a walrus penis bone(Baculum) Really,I'm no joking!He had them in pairs that were kinda mirrored to each other. so either the walrus had two penis's or its teeth were in my hands
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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:51:48 AM EDT
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He had them in pairs that were kinda mirrored to each other. so either the walrus had two penis's or its teeth were in my hands Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "bone" may be a walrus penis bone(Baculum) Really,I'm no joking!He had them in pairs that were kinda mirrored to each other. so either the walrus had two penis's or its teeth were in my hands  
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:04:56 AM EDT
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He had them in pairs that were kinda mirrored to each other. so either the walrus had two penis's or its teeth were in my hands Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "bone" may be a walrus penis bone(Baculum) Really,I'm no joking!He had them in pairs that were kinda mirrored to each other. so either the walrus had two penis's or its teeth were in my hands Bones of bipenal walrus are very valuable! |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:05:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:07:48 AM EDT
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OP, start practicing, you should be able keister it by the time you come home.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:07:55 AM EDT
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Bones of bipenal walrus are very valuable! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "bone" may be a walrus penis bone(Baculum) Really,I'm no joking!He had them in pairs that were kinda mirrored to each other. so either the walrus had two penis's or its teeth were in my hands Bones of bipenal walrus are very valuable! Are you sure because it sounds like there is twice the chance of getting stiffed! |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:09:48 AM EDT
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OP, start practicing, you should be able keister it by the time you come home. I went home last month, I got the full on search going and coming back from Pakistan. Its never a good sign when you walk into a room and they have the luggage you checked in Dallas waiting for you. Watch out for SSSS on your ticket. Not sure what SSSS is short for but I think they meant search me four times. That would be an awkward X-ray with a full framed Revo. |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:10:15 AM EDT
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Inquiring minds want to know.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:14:32 AM EDT
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I have owned two different Model 1909's in the past. This one looks correct, as far as markings. Fonts look right, the RAC inspection stamp is in place on the barrel bottom, US property looks correctly stamped. Butt markings are correct. Need a shot of the interior crane area, but I would otherwise say it is a US Army Model 1909 that has been engraved and nickel plated in the past. Even without knowing anything about it's history, assuming it is still in working order with a shootable bore, I would not hesitate to drop $500 on it. And if it is connected with an identifiable US general officer, the value would be much higher. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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is it possible that the pistol is a replica? Not saying it is but that part of the world is know for forgeries of almost anything. Surely someone more qualified than me can opine. I have owned two different Model 1909's in the past. This one looks correct, as far as markings. Fonts look right, the RAC inspection stamp is in place on the barrel bottom, US property looks correctly stamped. Butt markings are correct. Need a shot of the interior crane area, but I would otherwise say it is a US Army Model 1909 that has been engraved and nickel plated in the past. Even without knowing anything about it's history, assuming it is still in working order with a shootable bore, I would not hesitate to drop $500 on it. And if it is connected with an identifiable US general officer, the value would be much higher. With the engraving and nickel plating, it's a dead ringer for a cap gun I used to have when I was little. |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:24:44 AM EDT
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I like these threads. OP, even if you can't bring it back if it's real. You found something cool.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:34:53 AM EDT
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He had them in pairs that were kinda mirrored to each other. so either the walrus had two penis's or its teeth were in my hands Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "bone" may be a walrus penis bone(Baculum) Really,I'm no joking!He had them in pairs that were kinda mirrored to each other. so either the walrus had two penis's or its teeth were in my hands You're gonna need a bigger paper plate. |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:36:53 AM EDT
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walrus tusk
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:37:23 AM EDT
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Islamabad, and No I don't partake in the local offerings as far as food. Is the violence as bad as the media describes? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:40:56 AM EDT
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Tagged for updates.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:41:59 AM EDT
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The engraving isn't American. There's some "S" scrolls that just don't have the Western look to it. As for the gun itself, it looks real and the stampings look real. Still hard to tell without examining it and opening it up to examine the lockwork.
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:44:46 AM EDT
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mann you have better chance of finding genuine NATO M16's with Trijicon or Eotech included for $4000 over there
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:47:50 AM EDT
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How long will it take for them to run the background check on you?
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Posted: 9/14/2013 9:51:02 AM EDT
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Looks like the horn of a Narwhal
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Posted: 9/14/2013 1:25:42 PM EDT
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Looks like the horn of a Narwhal Looks nothing like a Narwhal horn |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 2:40:46 PM EDT
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Islamabad, and No I don't partake in the local offerings as far as food. Afghan and Pakistani food is good stuff |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 3:37:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Afghan and Pakistani food is good stuff Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Islamabad, and No I don't partake in the local offerings as far as food. Afghan and Pakistani food is good stuff My feelings towards food from that part of the world.... That which does not kill you, will make you wish you were dead. Same with true Indian food. |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 3:56:40 PM EDT
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baculum? Was the first thing I thought! Amazing. Also, it would probably be illegal to hide that revolver and ship it back home. You should not do that. No sir. |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 4:17:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks nothing like a Narwhal horn Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like the horn of a Narwhal Looks nothing like a Narwhal horn I love arfcom |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 4:18:04 PM EDT
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My feelings towards food from that part of the world.... That which does not kill you, will make you wish you were dead. Same with true Indian food. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Islamabad, and No I don't partake in the local offerings as far as food. Afghan and Pakistani food is good stuff My feelings towards food from that part of the world.... That which does not kill you, will make you wish you were dead. Same with true Indian food. Indian food is yummy too. I used to work in the city with highest concentration of Afghans in the US I put on some weight. Good Stuff |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 5:52:15 PM EDT
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Indian food is yummy too. I used to work in the city with highest concentration of Afghans in the US I put on some weight. Good Stuff Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Islamabad, and No I don't partake in the local offerings as far as food. Afghan and Pakistani food is good stuff My feelings towards food from that part of the world.... That which does not kill you, will make you wish you were dead. Same with true Indian food. Indian food is yummy too. I used to work in the city with highest concentration of Afghans in the US I put on some weight. Good Stuff With some sort of food standards in place I can see your point. The problem is the lack of food standards here. |
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Posted: 9/14/2013 5:58:01 PM EDT
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I'm not sure how you will do it, but damn it man, bring that home!
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Posted: 9/20/2013 5:22:14 AM EDT
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any updates?
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Posted: 9/20/2013 5:29:10 AM EDT
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Also, Anyone know what this is? I don't think its an elephant tusk but meh you never know. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/tusk1.JPG Whale penis bone. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 5:31:40 AM EDT
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Total speculation, but.....
India was an ally in WWII. Pakistan was part of India then. Pistol probably made its way there that way. Engraving was probably local after the fact. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 5:32:04 AM EDT
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Does that front sight look legit to ya'll. Thought all colt blades were half circles?
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Posted: 9/20/2013 5:37:30 AM EDT
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Does that front sight look legit to ya'll. Thought all colt blades were half circles? Negative. Smith sights were half circle. Colt used a slightly undercut ~1/4 circle shape. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 5:43:00 AM EDT
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A fake, likely not safe to shoot. Pakistan makes some of the best looking, unsafe weapons on the planet. If you're lucky it's from the Philippines
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Posted: 9/20/2013 5:47:05 AM EDT
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Looks like you found Uncle Hub's revolver...........
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Posted: 9/20/2013 5:52:45 AM EDT
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Real Hartford, Paki?/Indian? engraving. Might be worth $200 USD. If there is provenance with that General, then it's on as far as price.
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Posted: 9/20/2013 6:00:13 AM EDT
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I've been looking for a General Zachary from that period with no luck yet. I wonder if the General was not American, but received the pistol as a gift?
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Posted: 9/20/2013 6:06:45 AM EDT
[#43]
TFU
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Posted: 9/20/2013 6:07:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just take it, it does say "United States Property". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dont care what I had to do, I would bring that back home. Just take it, it does say "United States Property". I was thinking the same. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 6:09:06 AM EDT
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Still kicking myself for not buying a few milsurp ones when an LGS had a bunch of them back in the '80s. I didn't want to mess with moon clips or add 45 Auto Rim to my suite of calibers.
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Posted: 9/20/2013 6:13:18 AM EDT
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Tag
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Posted: 9/20/2013 6:21:13 AM EDT
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I've been looking for a General Zachary from that period with no luck yet. I wonder if the General was not American, but received the pistol as a gift? Could it be a British General? That would explain how it ended up in Pakistan. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 6:28:06 AM EDT
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if it is real get it here asap
contact simpson ltd and they may be able to get it back here for you they import a shit ton of lugers http://www.simpsonltd.com/ |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 6:29:00 AM EDT
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Looks like human long bones carved and polished to look like ivory tusks to me.
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Posted: 9/20/2013 6:31:15 AM EDT
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I've been looking for a General Zachary from that period with no luck yet. I wonder if the General was not American, but received the pistol as a gift? Maybe he was British since this area was under Brit control at the time. |
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