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Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:44:38 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter what America thinks, if the Dems get enough votes in Congress this will be how Trump is impeached
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And then NYer, you will find the American people are still capable of action.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:48:17 PM EDT
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I don't think America cared Bill got a BJ from Monica (outside of politics)

I don't think America cares Trump banged some porn stars. (outside of politics)

I think people already liked those guys, didn't like those guys, or didn't care. I don't think infidelity hurt either President.

My two cents.
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Cohen:"trump told me this would be a disaster for his campaign so I better pay her off"
I don't think America cared Bill got a BJ from Monica (outside of politics)

I don't think America cares Trump banged some porn stars. (outside of politics)

I think people already liked those guys, didn't like those guys, or didn't care. I don't think infidelity hurt either President.

My two cents.
I agree 100%
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:50:02 PM EDT
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I thought l read they were looking at investigating Cohen's wife too.
That could further explain why he said Trump told him to pay with intent to influence the election. Protecting his wife.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:50:12 PM EDT
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And then NYer, you will find the American people are still capable of action.
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Doesn't matter what America thinks, if the Dems get enough votes in Congress this will be how Trump is impeached
And then NYer, you will find the American people are still capable of action.
LOL, you aren’t going to do shit.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:50:26 PM EDT
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"I'd take a bullet for Trump!"
eveyone wants to be a henchman until it's time to do henchman shit
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LOL no shit
"I'd take a bullet for Trump!"
eveyone wants to be a henchman until it's time to do henchman shit
lol

This.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:52:10 PM EDT
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LOL, you aren’t going to do shit.
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Doesn't matter what America thinks, if the Dems get enough votes in Congress this will be how Trump is impeached
And then NYer, you will find the American people are still capable of action.
LOL, you aren’t going to do shit.
You don't know shit, yet insist on spewing it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:52:48 PM EDT
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LOL, you aren’t going to do shit.
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If our president is removed by the swamp for BS? That’s my line in the sand. Oh and that’s my real name up there. ;)
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:54:42 PM EDT
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 They don't have to prove the motivation, they are trying to prove that Mr Trump is a pathological liar, discrediting his assertion he fired Comey over how he treated the Clinton email investigation, so they can charge him with Obstruction of Justice by inferring Trump fired Comey to torpedo the Russian Collusion investigation.   Trump claimed he didn't know about Cohen paying off Stormy, among other things.   They have Trump himself bragging to the Sunday shows about firing Comey instead of putting it all on the original investigation and memo signed off by Robenstein, who initiated the whole Special Counsel in the first place.   Sometimes he really shoots himself in the foot running his mouth and Twitter account.
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Does not matter why he fired Comey as he has the authority to fire anyone for any reason. Let us not forget that even Comey testified that his firing would not stop the investigation as it is career FBI agents conducting it. As I recall Rosenstein and the new douche heading the FBI testified the same way.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:55:14 PM EDT
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You don't know shit, yet insist on spewing it.
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Doesn't matter what America thinks, if the Dems get enough votes in Congress this will be how Trump is impeached
And then NYer, you will find the American people are still capable of action.
LOL, you aren’t going to do shit.
You don't know shit, yet insist on spewing it.
I know that they could convict Trump for treason, hang him on the White House lawn and the humpers would do nothing but bitch and moan on the internet.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:55:45 PM EDT
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Looks like President Pence it very well may be.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:56:13 PM EDT
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Not this shit again.

Pmags......

Popped ?

Or are we still buying cheap and stocking deep?
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:58:45 PM EDT
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You don't know shit, yet insist on spewing it.
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Doesn't matter what America thinks, if the Dems get enough votes in Congress this will be how Trump is impeached
And then NYer, you will find the American people are still capable of action.
LOL, you aren’t going to do shit.
You don't know shit, yet insist on spewing it.
I just gotta quote this for posterity sake.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 8:58:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:00:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:01:02 PM EDT
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You know as well as I do this has nothing about proving anything against Trump in a court of law (as if they could while he is president).   Hell, they know Trump can pardon himself and everyone else for any crime they can come up with (except impeachment).

This is about guilt by association.   They are trying to make sure he either doesn't win re-election in 2020 or make sure he is a lame duck the entire time.
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Not so sure the verdict is in as to whether the president can actually pardon himself. While it has also been said that a president can pardon anyone he wants, it has also been said that if the purpose of the pardon is to let someone off so they do not give evidence against the president it can be challenged.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:01:32 PM EDT
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If our president is removed by the swamp for BS? That’s my line in the sand. Oh and that’s my real name up there. ;)
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LOL, you aren’t going to do shit.
If our president is removed by the swamp for BS? That’s my line in the sand. Oh and that’s my real name up there. ;)
They've already showed that there is no penalty or punishment for rioting or assaulting the other side.
If they keep pushing they're going to learn a hard lesson...
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:03:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:04:33 PM EDT
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Hey guys if we're gonna kick off Civil War II:  Electric Boogaloo can we do over someone other than Michael fucking Cohen?
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:05:20 PM EDT
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There are still plenty of open questions around the Russia piece of this.
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Yeah, like "Where the fuck is the evidence?"
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:06:01 PM EDT
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Not so sure the verdict is in as to whether the president can actually pardon himself. While it has also been said that a president can pardon anyone he wants, it has also been said that if the purpose of the pardon is to let someone off so they do not give evidence against the president it can be challenged.
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Well I know Judge Napolitano is sort of a moonbat, but he did discuss it before the election.
He said that there would be no prohibition from 0bama pardoning himself on his last day (or anyone else including Clinton) as presidential pardons are absolute.

The constitution is clear, the president can pardon for anything except impeachment.
The only penalty for impeachment is removal from office (upon conviction of 67 or more Senators after a trial presided over by Judas Roberts), nothing more.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:07:10 PM EDT
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Hey guys if we're gonna kick off Civil War II:  Electric Boogaloo can we do over someone other than Michael fucking Cohen?
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No civil war over Cohen - he's a scumbag.

Civil war happens when you overthrow an elected president...
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:08:15 PM EDT
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Yeah, like "Where the fuck is the evidence?"
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Cohen secretly recorded everything - as a felon & a liar, if he doesn't have it on tape it didn't happen...
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:09:17 PM EDT
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Sure and after you're shot or in prison people here will call you a dumbass.

There are people here afraid to ship AR parts to NY they're so scared of the liberals. Your one man war will be lonely and probably short.
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That's because this site is full of fair weather patriotism.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:09:29 PM EDT
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Yeah, like "Where the fuck is the evidence?"
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There are still plenty of open questions around the Russia piece of this.
Yeah, like "Where the fuck is the evidence?"
LOL yes!
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:17:04 PM EDT
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The Dems will wish Trump was still in office.
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Looks like President Pence it very well may be.
The Dems will wish Trump was still in office.
Honestly, this would be great.

Pence is a better politician, and the base would be super pissed about Trump.

It's a Br'er rabbit situation for the D's. I seriously think some of them believe if Trump went away it would be President Hillary.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:17:46 PM EDT
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You won't do shit.
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I Know YOU won’t!
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:19:51 PM EDT
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I know that they could convict Trump for treason, hang him on the White House lawn and the humpers would do nothing but bitch and moan on the internet.
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I know that they could convict Trump for treason, hang him on the White House lawn and the humpers would do nothing but bitch and moan on the internet.
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You won't do shit.
Lol.

The people who were wailing in sackcloth and ashes for 3 fucking years here about "HILLARY'S GONNA BE PREZZZIDENT!!" are going to presume to lecture to the rest of us about determination.

It's amazing how many characteristics the Trumpwhiners share.

...none of them good.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:21:59 PM EDT
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Alan Dershowitz' take on it.  At the 35:30 mark

"It's not fatal"
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:24:04 PM EDT
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They're trying to claim that the payoff was related to the campaign. If Trump has an extensive history of paying off women to keep quiet, that could be used to prove that it wasn't related to the campaign - that it's standard practice. Wouldn't it be hilarious to watch liberal heads explode if a pattern of paying off women is actually what puts this to rest?
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:30:45 PM EDT
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They're trying to claim that the payoff was related to the campaign. If Trump has an extensive history of paying off women to keep quiet, that could be used to prove that it wasn't related to the campaign - that it's standard practice. Wouldn't it be hilarious to watch liberal heads explode if a pattern of paying off women is actually what puts this to rest?
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If Cohen could actually damage Trump, do you think he'd be pleading guilty to 8 charges & facing 5-8 years in jail?
Or is it more likely that Meowler would have kept the case & given him immunity (or let him plead to just one charge)?

The left's heads are going to explode when this has no effect on the Teflon Don, just like everything else they tried...
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:30:53 PM EDT
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He might be able to beat this.

But Cohen's "credibility will be very much at issue," Dershowitz said. "He's already an admitted liar.

"He's basically pleaded guilty to lying.

"The government is going have a hard time basing a case purely on the credibility of Cohen himself, unless they have corroboration."

Dershowitz also questioned the payments Cohen pleaded guilty to arranging.

"Is it a campaign violation if the president, in fact, paid for the hush money?" he posed. "It isn't. He would have had to report it.

"That could be a violation for the campaign."

But the retired professor also highlighted Cohen's implication of Trump was not mentioned outside the courthouse later in the statement from Robert Khuzami, the deputy U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York who oversaw Cohen's case.

"I wonder if the U.S. Attorney's Office is going to stand behind that part of the plea, or whether the fact that they didn't mention it — and they mentioned everything else — may suggest that they're going to watch to make sure that's true," he explained to Bachman.

"That they don't want to put the credibility of the office behind that particular statement in the guilty plea," he added. "I read something into that."
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:33:49 PM EDT
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They're trying to claim that the payoff was related to the campaign. If Trump has an extensive history of paying off women to keep quiet, that could be used to prove that it wasn't related to the campaign - that it's standard practice. Wouldn't it be hilarious to watch liberal heads explode if a pattern of paying off women is actually what puts this to rest?
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Is it really still "trying to claim" something once they've pleaded guilty to that fact?
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Is it really still "trying to claim" something once they've pleaded guilty to that fact?
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You are much more intelligent than that. Nice try.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:35:35 PM EDT
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Listen to the plea allocution, he said something like he was working at the request of a presidential candidate (something like that)
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So... it was Hillary?
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Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:38:08 PM EDT
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Is it really still "trying to claim" something once they've pleaded guilty to that fact?
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Well the FBI said that Flynn committed no crime, but Meowler went after him anyway, tried to bankrupt him, & threatened his son in order to get a guilty plea - so is Flynn really guilty?
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:38:41 PM EDT
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You are much more intelligent than that. Nice try.
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Is it really still "trying to claim" something once they've pleaded guilty to that fact?
You are much more intelligent than that. Nice try.
You're implying that the government has a burden to "prove" something that's listed in Cohen's Information?

What and to whom?

ETA:  Prove to anyone besides Cohen, of course.
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murder, armed robbery of citizens, state banks and post offices, the theft of sacred objects, arson in a state prison, perjury, bigamy, deserting his wife and children, inciting prostitution, kidnapping, extortion, receiving stolen goods, selling stolen goods, passing counterfeit money, and, contrary to the laws of this state, the condemned is guilty of using marked cards...
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... and littering.
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You're implying that the government has a burden to "prove" something that's listed in Cohen's Information?

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What's in the plea is meaningless to everyone except Cohen.
If they want to use it against someone else (IE: Trump) then they absolutely have to prove it.
And Cohen is an admitted scumbag so his word is meaningless.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:43:15 PM EDT
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What's in the plea is meaningless to everyone except Cohen.
If they want to use it against someone else (IE: Trump) then they absolutely have to prove it.
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it seems that it all hinges on whether or not Cohen has proof.  if he does, then there's gonna be trouble. if not, then this will soon pass.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:43:30 PM EDT
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"I'd take a bullet for Trump!"
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Just you wait you arrogant pos N.Y. pussy.... you might not... but there are plenty of people who will die for this country you defeatist pussy

Join or die motherfuckers... if there was a group of people you didn’t want to mess with it’s Utah... we’ve massacred before and we’ll do it again
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What's in the plea is meaningless to everyone except Cohen.
If they want to use it against someone else (IE: Trump) then they absolutely have to prove it.
And Cohen is an admitted scumbag so his word is meaningless.
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You're implying that the government has a burden to "prove" something that's listed in Cohen's Information?

What and to whom?
What's in the plea is meaningless to everyone except Cohen.
If they want to use it against someone else (IE: Trump) then they absolutely have to prove it.
And Cohen is an admitted scumbag so his word is meaningless.
I somewhat agree with your first sentence.  I've just noticed that some people were in this thread trying to pick apart* Cohen's information and trying to argue that the government is going to have to "prove" silly idea X or silly idea Y.

Cohen pleaded guilty.  There's nothing else for the government to establish vis-a-vis those particular criminal charges.

*and by "pick apart" I mean like those monkeys banging around some bones at the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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Just you wait you arrogant pos N.Y. pussy.... you might not... but there are plenty of people who will die for this country you defeatist pussy
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Just you wait you arrogant pos N.Y. pussy.... you might not... but there are plenty of people who will die for this country you defeatist pussy
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 9:45:28 PM EDT
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it seems that it all hings on whether or not Cohen has proof. if he does, then there's gonna be trouble. if not, then this will soon pass.
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What's in the plea is meaningless to everyone except Cohen.
If they want to use it against someone else (IE: Trump) then they absolutely have to prove it.
And Cohen is an admitted scumbag so his word is meaningless.
it seems that it all hings on whether or not Cohen has proof. if he does, then there's gonna be trouble. if not, then this will soon pass.
If Cohen has a tape of Trump fucking a Thai ladyboy while yelling racial epithets, he might only win the same states in 2020 that he did in 2016.
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Well I know Judge Napolitano is sort of a moonbat, but he did discuss it before the election.
He said that there would be no prohibition from 0bama pardoning himself on his last day (or anyone else including Clinton) as presidential pardons are absolute.

The constitution is clear, the president can pardon for anything except impeachment.
The only penalty for impeachment is removal from office (upon conviction of 67 or more Senators after a trial presided over by Judas Roberts), nothing more.
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Judge Napolitano says a lot and other attorneys say the complete opposite. Someone here said the Judge should stick to what he knows as he is out of his element in many cases. I tent to listen to Mark Levin (like right now on Hannity) and Greg Jarret of Fox.
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Just you wait you arrogant pos N.Y. pussy.... you might not... but there are plenty of people who will die for this country you defeatist pussy

Join or die motherfuckers... if there was a group of people you didn’t want to mess with it’s Utah... we’ve massacred before and we’ll do it again
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That’s right... watch history unfold... you’d wish you were on the right side of history
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Just you wait you arrogant pos N.Y. pussy.... you might not... but there are plenty of people who will die for this country you defeatist pussy
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