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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:19:29 PM EDT
PDF of Revised Complaint  BREAKING!!!! GOA V New York Round 2! Taking Down The CCIA! Watch it, no Cliff Notes. If you can't be bothered to make the time, neither can I...  Seriously, great work to the GOA team, especially @nolocontendere who I'm sure will comment when he is allowed to and able. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:23:16 PM EDT
[#1]
can't wait. gonna be awesome.
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:24:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Let's go NOLO
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:24:53 PM EDT
[#3]
It's going to take every damn court at every single level slapping NY upside the head for anything to change.
Should be quite a show! 
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:26:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:26:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: can't wait. gonna be awesome. That uncanny first post thing strikes again! From your lips to God's ears brother! |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:27:22 PM EDT
[#6]
This will be great, one point of order, isn't a positive result for gun owners predicated on NYS following a ruling and the law?
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:28:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Get ‘em!
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:29:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Would be great if these types of cut and dry abusive law cases could be settled in a couple of weeks instead of the ages they take.
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:30:41 PM EDT
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"The Law is blatantly unconstitutional but because Joe Citizen won't violate the law, I won't officially invalidate the law"
 Is that the sum of the circle jerk by a robe wearing ass? 
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:32:07 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWf3a90hlgQWatch it, no Cliff Notes. If you can't be bothered to make the time, neither can I... Seriously, great work to the GOA team, especially @nolocontendere who I'm sure will comment when he is allowed to and able. Damn. Has that guy had a stroke? |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:32:51 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Would be great if these types of cut and dry abusive law cases could be settled in a couple of weeks instead of the ages they take. Yep. And when this gets smacked down NY will just outlaw carry on days that end in "Y". Then we get to wait again. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:33:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This will be great, one point of order, isn't a positive result for gun owners predicated on NYS following a ruling and the law? The sooner the judge rules it unconstitutional and enjoins it, the sooner NY can ignore the ruling and fast track it to the Supreme Court. Go ahead, ignore the ruling and prosecute people. The 1983 civil rights lawsuits will be flying right and left and guess what, when you go the civil rights route you can go after the government official personally and their homes, pensions, life savings. Their immunity goes out the fucking window, and that is why "public servants" are scared to death of them. Once Hochul and her minions are personally on the line and not hiding behind the state coffers, we'll see how they roll. GOA doesn't seem to be hindered by whatever restrains the NRA in defending our rights. Don't get me wrong, I'm still grateful for the NRA despite their shenanigans, but I'm grateful there are some honey badgers on our side that just don't give a fuck and are willing to wage lawfare in the same ruthless way the gun grabbers are willing to. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:36:52 PM EDT
[#13]
Go get them, GOA!
Watch, as soon as this 'new' law is overturned they'll have another ready to go. Wash, rinse, repeat.. There needs to be a consequence for these kinds of BS laws. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:37:12 PM EDT
[#14]
Meanwhile, in Free America, Texas, in this case, 922(n) was just struck down as unconstitutional after the Bruen decision.
The decision is a great read. It's just mind blowing how NY could just be so incredibly fucked up that we are literally at the opposite end of the freedom scale as people can be. Texas just gave indicted, but unconvicted felons their 2A back. Meanwhile, honest, law abiding upstanding citizens in NY get treated like societies worst scum. If there is a more extreme example of clown world, I don't know what it could be. From this thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Bruen-strikes-again-TX-edition/5-2587588/ The decision: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.1165328/gov.uscourts.txwd.1165328.82.0.pdf |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:39:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Good luck!
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:39:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The sooner the judge rules it unconstitutional and enjoins it, the sooner NY can ignore the ruling and fast track it to the Supreme Court. Go ahead, ignore the ruling and prosecute people. The 1983 civil rights lawsuits will be flying right and left and guess what, when you go the civil rights route you can go after the government official personally and their homes, pensions, life savings. Their immunity goes out the fucking window, and that is why "public servants" are scared to death of them. Once Hochul and her minions are personally on the line and not hiding behind the state coffers, we'll see how they roll. GOA doesn't seem to be hindered by whatever restrains the NRA in defending our rights. Don't get me wrong, I'm still grateful for the NRA despite their shenanigans, but I'm grateful there are some honey badgers on our side that just don't give a fuck and are willing to wage lawfare in the same ruthless way the gun grabbers are willing to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This will be great, one point of order, isn't a positive result for gun owners predicated on NYS following a ruling and the law? The sooner the judge rules it unconstitutional and enjoins it, the sooner NY can ignore the ruling and fast track it to the Supreme Court. Go ahead, ignore the ruling and prosecute people. The 1983 civil rights lawsuits will be flying right and left and guess what, when you go the civil rights route you can go after the government official personally and their homes, pensions, life savings. Their immunity goes out the fucking window, and that is why "public servants" are scared to death of them. Once Hochul and her minions are personally on the line and not hiding behind the state coffers, we'll see how they roll. GOA doesn't seem to be hindered by whatever restrains the NRA in defending our rights. Don't get me wrong, I'm still grateful for the NRA despite their shenanigans, but I'm grateful there are some honey badgers on our side that just don't give a fuck and are willing to wage lawfare in the same ruthless way the gun grabbers are willing to. The NRA... 
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:43:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The NRA... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This will be great, one point of order, isn't a positive result for gun owners predicated on NYS following a ruling and the law? The sooner the judge rules it unconstitutional and enjoins it, the sooner NY can ignore the ruling and fast track it to the Supreme Court. Go ahead, ignore the ruling and prosecute people. The 1983 civil rights lawsuits will be flying right and left and guess what, when you go the civil rights route you can go after the government official personally and their homes, pensions, life savings. Their immunity goes out the fucking window, and that is why "public servants" are scared to death of them. Once Hochul and her minions are personally on the line and not hiding behind the state coffers, we'll see how they roll. GOA doesn't seem to be hindered by whatever restrains the NRA in defending our rights. Don't get me wrong, I'm still grateful for the NRA despite their shenanigans, but I'm grateful there are some honey badgers on our side that just don't give a fuck and are willing to wage lawfare in the same ruthless way the gun grabbers are willing to. The NRA... Without the NRA there would have been no NYSRPA v. Bruen which heralded in the CCIA and the GOA's lawsuits. We knew it would get worse before it got better, but the only shot at breaking NYS was to go this long and perilous path. I fault the NRA for a lot of things, but they made the NYSRPA suit possible. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:49:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "The Law is blatantly unconstitutional but because Joe Citizen won't violate the law, I won't officially invalidate the law"https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_confused.gif Is that the sum of the circle jerk by a robe wearing ass? It sucks but the second circuit, unfriendly to 2A, would’ve have reversed it immediately based on standing alone. This judge did us a long-term favor by making the future case airtight. Just coach the plaintiffs a little better… |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:50:52 PM EDT
[#19]
Why, does that guy talk like a platypus on novocaine?
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:54:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It sucks but the second circuit, unfriendly to 2A, would’ve have reversed it immediately based on standing alone. This judge did us a long-term favor by making the future case airtight. Just coach the plaintiffs a little better… Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "The Law is blatantly unconstitutional but because Joe Citizen won't violate the law, I won't officially invalidate the law"https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_confused.gif Is that the sum of the circle jerk by a robe wearing ass? It sucks but the second circuit, unfriendly to 2A, would’ve have reversed it immediately based on standing alone. This judge did us a long-term favor by making the future case airtight. Just coach the plaintiffs a little better… I mean standing shouldn't even be an issue when it comes to a law being unconstitutional, as it effects every person. But yeah the judge knew the 2nd circus would toss it on appeal based on the standing technicalities...and gave GOA another go at it...and even said "yeah the law is BS, send it back ASAP and I'll toss it." |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:57:11 PM EDT
[#21]
GOA actually fights, while the NRA remains silent at best.
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:58:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Seriously need cliff notes on the video, dude has a voice for printed media
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Posted: 9/20/2022 4:58:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2022 5:05:22 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why, does that guy talk like a platypus on novocaine? It’s funny cause it’s true. Poor guy 
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Posted: 9/20/2022 5:16:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Without the NRA there would have been no NYSRPA v. Bruen which heralded in the CCIA and the GOA's lawsuits. We knew it would get worse before it got better, but the only shot at breaking NYS was to go this long and perilous path. I fault the NRA for a lot of things, but they made the NYSRPA suit possible. QFT… NRA is more fucked up than a pile of coat hangers, but if not for them, NYSRPA v Bruen would NOT have happened. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and awhile… |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 5:23:01 PM EDT
[#26]
New York loses, they slightly change it to be worse, keep it.
With no punishment, it won’t matter. a law found to be unconstitutional should at a minimum, cost everyone who signed off on said law their political position / job, and barred from future office. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 5:23:53 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go get them, GOA! Watch, as soon as this 'new' law is overturned they'll have another ready to go. Wash, rinse, repeat.. There needs to be a consequence for these kinds of BS laws. If it were up to me, it would be in the Constitution that the authors and "yea" voters for any law found unconstitutional by the SCOTUS shall be guilty of treason. They'll tone their shit WAAAAY down. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 5:24:32 PM EDT
[#28]
Tag. Go Nolo!
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Posted: 9/20/2022 5:24:39 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. Has that guy had a stroke? |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 5:24:57 PM EDT
[#30]
When will this case be ruled on?
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Posted: 9/20/2022 5:43:53 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: New York loses, they slightly change it to be worse, keep it. With no punishment, it won’t matter. a law found to be unconstitutional should at a minimum, cost everyone who signed off on said law their political position / job, and barred from future office. And it won’t stop until that happens. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 5:55:47 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When will this case be ruled on? When it’s ruled on. It hasn’t even been docketed yet to my knowledge. Briefs will be exchanged, a court date set, arguments made, a verdict rendered, and hopefully at the beginning an injunction issued. This is a marathon, not a sprint. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 6:05:39 PM EDT
[#33]
My body is always ready.
When's the next dinner? I didn't get a chance to bitch to Nolo about my county like the rest of you did.. 
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:02:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Hasn't been docketed yet, but it has been filed. stay tuned for the Complaint when it is formally docketed. There are some other things that will happen, soon, as well.
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:02:42 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My body is always ready. When's the next dinner? I didn't get a chance to bitch to Nolo about my county like the rest of you did.. That next argument is probably closer than you think... |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:11:27 PM EDT
[#36]
If it's time to shoot, then shoot don't talk.
They should file first and fundraisers after. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:17:14 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: … The 1983 civil rights lawsuits will be flying right and left and guess what, when you go the civil rights route you can go after the government official personally and their homes, pensions, life savings. Their immunity goes out the fucking window, and that is why "public servants" are scared to death of them. Once Hochul and her minions are personally on the line and not hiding behind the state coffers, we'll see how they roll. ... The fact we need personal liability for violating civil rights in the ONLY way to stop the anti-Constitution crowd. HOW do we get there - you are implying a mechanism exists - can you explain in more detail? |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:22:02 PM EDT
[#38]
Damn, I sped up the video to 2x just to breeze through it. Then he sounded like a normal speaking person.
I then read all your comments about the talking platypus drugged up so I went back to play it at normal speed. Holy fuck it's a painful listen despite the content being presented. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:26:08 PM EDT
[#39]
In for wherever this goes.
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:26:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The sooner the judge rules it unconstitutional and enjoins it, the sooner NY can ignore the ruling and fast track it to the Supreme Court. Go ahead, ignore the ruling and prosecute people. The 1983 civil rights lawsuits will be flying right and left and guess what, when you go the civil rights route you can go after the government official personally and their homes, pensions, life savings. Their immunity goes out the fucking window, and that is why "public servants" are scared to death of them. Once Hochul and her minions are personally on the line and not hiding behind the state coffers, we'll see how they roll. GOA doesn't seem to be hindered by whatever restrains the NRA in defending our rights. Don't get me wrong, I'm still grateful for the NRA despite their shenanigans, but I'm grateful there are some honey badgers on our side that just don't give a fuck and are willing to wage lawfare in the same ruthless way the gun grabbers are willing to. How do these 1983 civil rights lawsuits work? |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:29:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New York loses, they slightly change it to be worse, keep it. With no punishment, it won’t matter. a law found to be unconstitutional should at a minimum, cost everyone who signed off on said law their political position / job, and barred from future office. Yep. If you voted for it, out you go. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:29:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact we need personal liability for violating civil rights in the ONLY way to stop the anti-Constitution crowd. HOW do we get there - you are implying a mechanism exists - can you explain in more detail? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: … The 1983 civil rights lawsuits will be flying right and left and guess what, when you go the civil rights route you can go after the government official personally and their homes, pensions, life savings. Their immunity goes out the fucking window, and that is why "public servants" are scared to death of them. Once Hochul and her minions are personally on the line and not hiding behind the state coffers, we'll see how they roll. ... The fact we need personal liability for violating civil rights in the ONLY way to stop the anti-Constitution crowd. HOW do we get there - you are implying a mechanism exists - can you explain in more detail? This might answer many of your questions. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:30:16 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hasn't been docketed yet, but it has been filed. stay tuned for the Complaint when it is formally docketed. There are some other things that will happen, soon, as well. You had my curiosity, now you have my attention. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:40:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:44:39 PM EDT
[#45]
Still open to be a plaintiff if they need one
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:54:37 PM EDT
[#46]
NY gives 2 shits about rule of law. Every county's local sheriff's has made up their own (unconstitutional ) laws as of late.
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:59:13 PM EDT
[#47]
FKH
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:59:42 PM EDT
[#48]
Can I get a bullet point cliffnotes of it?
I don't have the ability to listen at the moment. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 8:00:52 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The sooner the judge rules it unconstitutional and enjoins it, the sooner NY can ignore the ruling and fast track it to the Supreme Court. Go ahead, ignore the ruling and prosecute people. The 1983 civil rights lawsuits will be flying right and left and guess what, when you go the civil rights route you can go after the government official personally and their homes, pensions, life savings. Their immunity goes out the fucking window, and that is why "public servants" are scared to death of them. Once Hochul and her minions are personally on the line and not hiding behind the state coffers, we'll see how they roll. GOA doesn't seem to be hindered by whatever restrains the NRA in defending our rights. Don't get me wrong, I'm still grateful for the NRA despite their shenanigans, but I'm grateful there are some honey badgers on our side that just don't give a fuck and are willing to wage lawfare in the same ruthless way the gun grabbers are willing to. Will some one with standing do this one? https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 8:02:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat claims state legislators are immune. Does that apply to municipalities? |
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