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Final thought on how Arya flew her so far:
Click To View Spoiler Chuck Norris chucked Arya through the air
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Watch that last YouTube video, THEN try to defend the episode. Every part of this episode was fucked. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: It was based pure conjecture. I watched the episode, that’s why I said your “observation” was stupid. Maybe I take a bunch on dopamine hits and watch it again on your level. They just don't like it. Simple as that. Every part of this episode was fucked. That's the real issue. Most of the critics here just don't like the flavor of the plot armor. |
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Quoted: Don't see the issue. It's been well documented that pretty much every character makes retarded decisions, and yet is saved by plot armor. Or in the case of GoT, "prophecy" That's the real issue. Most of the critics here just don't like the flavor of the plot armor. View Quote If only that was the only issue... |
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Quoted: That’s more believable than the Arya having superpowers. Here's what I think happened: Click To View Spoiler Scene #17 Death has many faces
I believe you can see Arya enter the woods just before Theon's men are attacked. It occurs when Theon hears something and sees shadows in the wood. He says “Get Ready”. I think Arya is the first shadow seen by Theon. She is being followed by one or more undead. One of whom she will use to disguise herself, so that she can get into position without drawing attention. When the undead start to come into the scene seconds later they come through the gate and directly attack Theon and his men, as they usually do. No strategy just aggressive straightforward undead attack. That’s why the first few didn’t attack. … they were chasing Arya. When this attack starts there still aren't many undead around. This occurs during the great lull in the battle where the living have cleared out most of the undead. And before the Night King raised the second wave of undead. It’s during this phase that Arya is getting ready for the most important assassination attempt of her life. (So, she was in place earlier then I thought.) Also in this scene you can see the iron bucket she will uses to increase both her jump height and distance. Theon was using it to hold his arrows. But it'll be empty when she uses it for her jump. So, I believe, she got to the forest when there weren't many undead around and she waited. She may have prepared a disguise, While I don’t think she needed one, I think she did, because it would have made it easier to just be standing there with the rest of the regular undead, and it would have allowed her to get closer to the Night King. That and the title of the scene #17 Death has many faces would kind of make sense. How did Arya's attack go down? Facing the tree, her attack came from off center and to the right of where the Night King is standing over Bran, maybe 10 yards from where Arya is. She ran from her position slightly off the right shoulder of the NK, she jumped on the edge of the iron bucket which added an extra 24"-30" of height to her jump. The average girl her age, in good shape, can jump 20" vertically. I think that would have given her a maximum jump height from her feet to the ground of 44" to 50" At the peak inflection point of her trajectory, that put her head somewhere between 2.75'-3.25' above the head of the Night King. ...well represented in the shot we get to see. https://thecrazywatchers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/anigif_sub-buzz-6273-1556511276-1.gif Yes, with her arms extended at the mini-max potential of that trajectory's inflection point she could have dunked a basketball. Oh, and per her usual practice she ripped off her mask just before she killed the NK. I also think we'll probably get a reveal. So maybe we'll get to see if I'm right or not. Which would be nice. If you go back and watch from scene #14 titled What do we say to the god of death everything I've written is based on evidence that can be seen in the episode. It's just not in your face obvious. There are also a lot of cut-scenes so you have to watch carefully. Another tidbit is the brief cut we get to see some sort of wind rustle the hair of one of the WW's as he slowly turns his head and looks to his right. This is likely when the WW say Ayra, and it took the time of her running the 30-40ft, jumping and on the downward arc before the NK was aware. As seen in the shot of her over the shoulder of the NK, he didn't realize it until nearly the last second. As far as I can tell, it appears that the NK doesn't have instant sensory input from what he controls. If he did, he is more than fast enough to turn around and spear Ayra mid-air. He did spear a dragon mid-flight from what looked like at least a 1/4mi away after all. |
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Quoted: If you don't like their writing, I think you can take comfort in the fact that they're going to have more source material to work with. As has been pointed out here, they were kind of left hanging with Game of Thrones. Hell, GRRM hasn't been able to tie up all his loose ends yet. Most of the critics in this thread seem to be happy with their handling of season 1-4. So, there's that to consider. Besides, I think this was more of a collaboration between them and the director. In the interviews they kept saying, things like "we handed over our outline". Now that could have been just their word choice, but I wonder how much latitude they actually gave their directors. Because to me, it sounds like they gave him a lot. So, who knows. View Quote |
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Haha, yeah, to proclaim that that there is NO valid criticism of the show after an episode like that he must be mainlining that shit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: No, of course he can't. Much like H-K, RustedAce or dkjest. None of them have any valid actual criticism. Literally every single complaint they have can be answered by valid in-universe reasons that are consistent. They just don't like it. Simple as that. Denial is a helluva drug...simple as that. I didn't say there was NO valid criticism. There is plenty to criticize. |
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Don't see the issue. It's been well documented that pretty much every GOT writer makes retarded decisions, and yet is saved by plot armor. Or in the case of GoT, "prophecy" That's the real issue. Most of the critics here just don't like the flavor of the plot armor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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From u/JackofVegas at reddit.com/r/FreeFolk
When you decide that your food shortage problem can be solved by putting the newcomers in front of the barricade... Attached File |
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Found this gem in a different discussion.
Comment....."Arya's scene in the library was odd, what the hell were the wights doing wandering around the library for?" Response..."They were looking for a better script" |
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1000 years the Night King waited, but he couldn’t wait 6mos to 1 year to starve out Winterfell?
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Maisie Williams (Arya) after finding out Arya was going to be the one to kill the NK: “It was so unbelievably exciting, but I immediately thought that everybody would hate it. That Arya doesn’t deserve it. The hardest thing is in any series is when you build up a villain that’s so impossible to defeat and then you defeat them. It has to be intelligently done because otherwise people are like, ‘Well, [the villain] couldn’t have been that bad when some 45kg girl comes in and stabs him.’ You gotta make it cool. And then I told my boyfriend and he was like, ‘Mmm, should be Jon though really, shouldn’t it?’” https://media2.giphy.com/media/ZFJYcVE5lYvWE/giphy.gif View Quote |
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1000 years the Night King waited, but he couldn’t wait 6mos to 1 year to starve out Winterfell? View Quote Minus those 2, he eventually would have picked up 20,000 more troops and possibly 2 dragons. |
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Quoted: He kicked their asses throughly. He got cocky and just didnt account for Arya and Bran depending on how much he had planned out. Minis those 2, he eventually would have picked up 20,000 more troops and possibly 2 dragons. View Quote |
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Quoted: Sure they do. Remember the smirk? He stood and waited for her dragon to try to burn him, just to prove it didnt bother him. View Quote Anyways here is this! The Long Night - How Game of Thrones killed 8 years of character development |
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Arya killing the NK was the best part of the episode.
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According to Emilia Clarke episode 5 is epic, so my guess is this weeks episode is just filler/ a build up and nothing actually happens.
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Maisie Williams (Arya) after finding out Arya was going to be the one to kill the NK: “It was so unbelievably exciting, but I immediately thought that everybody would hate it. That Arya doesn’t deserve it. The hardest thing is in any series is when you build up a villain that’s so impossible to defeat and then you defeat them. It has to be intelligently done because otherwise people are like, ‘Well, [the villain] couldn’t have been that bad when some 45kg girl comes in and stabs him.’ You gotta make it cool. And then I told my boyfriend and he was like, ‘Mmm, should be Jon though really, shouldn’t it?’” https://media2.giphy.com/media/ZFJYcVE5lYvWE/giphy.gif Kinda like how GRRM claims he doesn't have time to watch GoT (so he can't be asked if he likes it) but then tweets how great other shows are. |
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According to Emilia Clarke episode 5 is epic, so my guess is this weeks episode is just filler/ a build up and nothing actually happens. View Quote 3. Dead vs living battle 4. Aftermath of battle and build up to KL battle 5. KL battle 6. Aftermath of battle and hopefully resolution of all storylines. |
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Quoted: 8 years and the dude shows no emotion and then we get a smirk?!? WTF... Anyways here is this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAVWThwNFHo View Quote The Night King is extremely evil, hates the living, and is extremely powerful. Well, he was. It doesnt mean he cant enjoy his work every once in a while. |
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Arya killing the NK was the best part of the episode. I'll fight anyone that doesn't like it. View Quote I'm your huckleberry Tombstone scene - YouTube |
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I dont need to watch a 12 minute video to persuade me that the writers were wrong to write their show the way they want. The Night King is extremely evil, hates the living, and is extremely powerful. Well, he was. It doesnt mean he cant enjoy his work every once in a while. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: 8 years and the dude shows no emotion and then we get a smirk?!? WTF... Anyways here is this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAVWThwNFHo The Night King is extremely evil, hates the living, and is extremely powerful. Well, he was. It doesnt mean he cant enjoy his work every once in a while. |
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Arya killing the NK was the best part of the episode. I'll fight anyone that doesn't like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YVTksxZMOA |
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Then why was he completely emotionless at Hardhome? When he raised the dead while him and Jon were having that eye-to-eye would have been the perfect time to do that. https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xlO10JSub49oiI/giphy.gif View Quote Like the staredown between 2 fighters before a match. Raising the dead had been done, and they all knew he could do it. Surviving the dragons fire was something they didnt expect so he had reason to gloat. He shrugged off what he knew they thought was their ultimate weapon against him. |
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Quoted: He kicked their asses throughly. He got cocky and just didnt account for Arya and Bran depending on how much Bran had actually planned out. Minus those 2, he eventually would have picked up 20,000 more troops and possibly 2 dragons. View Quote Stop putting emotions into a character that never says an entire word the entire series. We have seen 3 faces on the NK. Fear, before being stabbed by children. Resting bitch face Smirk when he survived dragon fire. ETA: the only motive we are given is that he is death. He is a machine that only has one purpose. He doesn’t think. He doesn’t feel. He doesn’t sense spider monkeys. |
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Maisie Williams (Arya) after finding out Arya was going to be the one to kill the NK: “It was so unbelievably exciting, but I immediately thought that everybody would hate it. That Arya doesn’t deserve it. The hardest thing is in any series is when you build up a villain that’s so impossible to defeat and then you defeat them. It has to be intelligently done because otherwise people are like, ‘Well, [the villain] couldn’t have been that bad when some 45kg girl comes in and stabs him.’ You gotta make it cool. And then I told my boyfriend and he was like, ‘Mmm, should be Jon though really, shouldn’t it?’” https://media2.giphy.com/media/ZFJYcVE5lYvWE/giphy.gif View Quote |
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He was trying to be a hard motherfucker I guess. I doubt raising his arms helps raise the dead. Its just posturing on his part, like "look what I can do" while giving Jon the death stare. Like the staredown between 2 fighters before a match. Raising the dead had been done, and they all knew he could do it. Surviving the dragons fire was something they didnt expect so he had reason to gloat. He shrugged off what he knew they thought was their ultimate weapon against him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Then why was he completely emotionless at Hardhome? When he raised the dead while him and Jon were having that eye-to-eye would have been the perfect time to do that. https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xlO10JSub49oiI/giphy.gif Like the staredown between 2 fighters before a match. Raising the dead had been done, and they all knew he could do it. Surviving the dragons fire was something they didnt expect so he had reason to gloat. He shrugged off what he knew they thought was their ultimate weapon against him. Though I suppose after 10,000 years maybe he changed his personalty in the months between Hardhome and The Long Night. It would make about as much sense as anything else we saw last Sunday. |
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From u/JackofVegas at reddit.com/r/FreeFolk When you decide that your food shortage problem can be solved by putting the newcomers in front of the barricade... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/244342/sansa_jpg-933368.JPG View Quote |
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Quoted: Too predictable/unoriginal. That's another reason that it had to be Arya. View Quote They could end this entire series on the next episode with her powers and save everyone some subscription fees. |
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Too predictable/unoriginal. That's another reason that it had to be Arya. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Maisie Williams (Arya) after finding out Arya was going to be the one to kill the NK: “It was so unbelievably exciting, but I immediately thought that everybody would hate it. That Arya doesn’t deserve it. The hardest thing is in any series is when you build up a villain that’s so impossible to defeat and then you defeat them. It has to be intelligently done because otherwise people are like, ‘Well, [the villain] couldn’t have been that bad when some 45kg girl comes in and stabs him.’ You gotta make it cool. And then I told my boyfriend and he was like, ‘Mmm, should be Jon though really, shouldn’t it?’” https://media2.giphy.com/media/ZFJYcVE5lYvWE/giphy.gif |
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Bran tells Tyrion, Jaimie, and at least Arya, that Bronn is coming to kill Tyrion and or Jaimie. Bronn goes to take his shot, and finds Needle sticking out the front of his throat. Arya does the "face" thing, and returns to Kings Landing to be in position to go after Cersei |
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From u/JackofVegas at reddit.com/r/FreeFolk When you decide that your food shortage problem can be solved by putting the newcomers in front of the barricade... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/244342/sansa_jpg-933368.JPG After that brilliant scene where she reveals what "really" happened to Lysa we think Sansa turned a corner having learned how to play the game by one of the best in Littlefinger. The last time we see her in S4 she looks like she's becoming Darth Sansa. But nope. Somehow Littlefinger with all his spies hasn't heard that the only offspring of one of the most powerful lords in the north likes to spend his spare time hunting humans like animals, torturing people, etc. and Sansa gets served up to Ramsay on a silver platter. "Totally unexpected! What great writing!" |
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Theory. Bran tells Tyrion, Jaimie, and at least Arya, that Bronn is coming to kill Tyrion and or Jaimie. Bronn goes to take his shot, and finds Needle sticking out the front of his throat. Arya does the "face" thing, and returns to Kings Landing to be in position to go after Cersei View Quote With Arya there is absolutely no reason for there to be a massive battle. |
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Arya killing the NK was the best part of the episode. I'll fight anyone that doesn't like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YVTksxZMOA Laughing out loud like a retard! |
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That's another thing Dumb and Dumber fucked up. After that brilliant scene where she reveals what "really" happened to Lysa we think Sansa turned a corner having learned how to play the game by one of the best in Littlefinger. The last time we see her in S4 she looks like she's becoming Darth Sansa. https://media1.giphy.com/media/KKwp4N3wLWkq4/source.gif But nope. Somehow Littlefinger with all his spies hasn't heard that the only offspring of one of the most powerful lords in the north likes to spend his spare time hunting humans like animals, torturing people, etc. and Sansa gets served up to Ramsay on a silver platter. "Totally unexpected! What great writing!" View Quote Sansa, The Hound, Sam, Jamie, etc. etc. |
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At the very least I hope they give us a reason why Arya doesn't just slip into KL, find the face of someone familiar to Cersei, kill Cersei, take her face, and then dismantle the crown's forces. With Arya there is absolutely no reason for there to be a massive battle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Theory. Bran tells Tyrion, Jaimie, and at least Arya, that Bronn is coming to kill Tyrion and or Jaimie. Bronn goes to take his shot, and finds Needle sticking out the front of his throat. Arya does the "face" thing, and returns to Kings Landing to be in position to go after Cersei With Arya there is absolutely no reason for there to be a massive battle. (Remember: prophesies are silly in a world with zombies, dragons, and magic weapons.) Hey, after all, Jon spent time fighting the army of the dead which included: killing a white Walker Capturing a wight seeing the night king's power convincing people (who hate eachother) to fight against this guy, OBVIOUSLY he is meant to kill Cersei. |
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The spirals represent character spirals. The characters dont have arcs, they have spirals, they always return to their previous unlearned form but worse, spiraling down the drain as in the earlier picture. Sansa, The Hound, Sam, Jamie, etc. etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's another thing Dumb and Dumber fucked up. After that brilliant scene where she reveals what "really" happened to Lysa we think Sansa turned a corner having learned how to play the game by one of the best in Littlefinger. The last time we see her in S4 she looks like she's becoming Darth Sansa. https://media1.giphy.com/media/KKwp4N3wLWkq4/source.gif But nope. Somehow Littlefinger with all his spies hasn't heard that the only offspring of one of the most powerful lords in the north likes to spend his spare time hunting humans like animals, torturing people, etc. and Sansa gets served up to Ramsay on a silver platter. "Totally unexpected! What great writing!" Sansa, The Hound, Sam, Jamie, etc. etc. Attached File |
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Quoted: Yeah but we get to see the REAL bad guy go down! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/144599/imjjjwq4a0w21_png-933628.JPG View Quote A rich prize indeed! Not sure why Mary Sue even wants to rule those ashes. |
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We will get a battle, no explanation, and a buzz feed article talking about how obvious it was because of a re-arranged quote by a character we think is a fraud. (Remember: prophesies are silly in a world with zombies, dragons, and magic weapons.) Hey, after all, Jon spent time fighting the army of the dead which included: killing a white Walker Capturing a wight seeing the night king's power convincing people (who hate eachother) to fight against this guy, OBVIOUSLY he is meant to kill Cersei. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Theory. Bran tells Tyrion, Jaimie, and at least Arya, that Bronn is coming to kill Tyrion and or Jaimie. Bronn goes to take his shot, and finds Needle sticking out the front of his throat. Arya does the "face" thing, and returns to Kings Landing to be in position to go after Cersei With Arya there is absolutely no reason for there to be a massive battle. (Remember: prophesies are silly in a world with zombies, dragons, and magic weapons.) Hey, after all, Jon spent time fighting the army of the dead which included: killing a white Walker Capturing a wight seeing the night king's power convincing people (who hate eachother) to fight against this guy, OBVIOUSLY he is meant to kill Cersei. |
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The fam watched it again tonight.
There is just too much wrong. We have all agreed to take our brains out and set them on the seat next to us and have a nice bucket of popcorn together. |
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Who will sit on the throne of a kingdom that has been totally depopulated, indebted, and destroyed by war, famine and waste! A rich prize indeed! Not sure why Mary Sue even wants to rule those ashes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The fam watched it again tonight. There is just too much wrong. We have all agreed to take our brains out and set them on the seat next to us and have a nice bucket of popcorn together. View Quote |
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