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Link Posted: 11/11/2019 5:58:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:04:47 PM EDT
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I've seen every Star Wars movie in the theaters with my mother, who is a huge sci-fi fan. After the last one, we both looked at each other like "WTF did we just watch?" We will most likely watch the next one just because of tradition but I don't have any hopes about quality.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:08:58 PM EDT
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Liberals are bad at everything. Except destroying empires I guess.
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I am generally anti-euthanasia but I'll make an exception to killing pop culture past its prime.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:10:03 PM EDT
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yeah she do
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:10:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:12:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:12:13 PM EDT
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At least the Mandalorian looks decent. Word is that KK had very little to do with it, which would explain a great many things...
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:18:55 PM EDT
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Disney already threw all those stories out as non-canon.
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They need to start fresh and make a series of movies from the old republic era

Like a KOTOR movie
Disney already threw all those stories out as non-canon.
KOTOR is in a gray area because of the Old Republic MMO that existed when Disney took over and is still active today.

The mobile game "Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes" has a bunch of Old Republic characters, and they're supposedly restricted to "only canon" characters.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:18:59 PM EDT
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What did you expect to see in this thread given the title?  
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Hey OP- please add a damn SPOILERS tag to your headline
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Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:19:45 PM EDT
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Return of the Jedi 2.0 where the most inexperienced untrained Jedi kills the biggest and Baddest Sith in the galaxy....

Boy these clown shoes really hurt my feet...
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:21:07 PM EDT
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The force is growing larger would be more appropriate.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:23:20 PM EDT
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Saw one of these shirts being worn in the wild a few weeks back.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:23:53 PM EDT
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It would literally be better if they don’t release it and come back to “the much anticipated third act” in like 5 years.
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Agreed.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:25:50 PM EDT
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not likely.

Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:40:17 PM EDT
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There is a classic hero cycle that resonates with humans of all cultures during all know history.

Be it spoken, sung, written, a play, movie, etc.

You can add some cute kid stuff for younger audiences, some dramatic twists, and various modifications, side orders, and dressings.

What you can’t do is totally blow off the cycle.

Hollywood wants to give us woke leads that are just handed OP, and kick ass with no risk of losing.

Not a satisfying cycle.

It does not resonate or connect.

Classically it starts as a coming of age.

Joe Blow picks up a magic crystal and saves a bunch of people. Effortlessly massacres minions, a couple of boss battles, and then the big bad and goes home a winner.

That doesn’t cut it.  But that is what Hollywood is giving us.

Joe Blow is an orphan and slave.
A mysterious stranger helps him escape.
He trains him.
Through dedication and effort he finds a magic crystal he was born to activate.
He defeats minions,  he becomes adored and showered with riches.
He gets cocky and has his ass handed to him in a boss battle and loses the crystal.
He goes into hiding and is hated.
He overcomes his fear and with great effort and sacrifice and risk of life, finds the bosses.  With the aid of his former mentor that dies getting him there.
He defeats them and regains the crystal.
He reaches full power.
He seeks out the big bad knowing he will likely die even if he defeats him.
He defeats him.

This cuts it.

It’s a mess.
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Start from nothing.
Earn your power.
A demanding mentor.
Have you lowest low.
A hubris fall.
Lose your gift.
Earn and atone.
Regain your gift.
A worthy opponent defeated against all odds.

Iron man(the one marvel movie that couldbe argued launched the  multi billion dollar super hero craze)

guy gets laid low and works in cave under gruling doncition using brain to fix things,
gruling dad/mentor scenes
get escape cave
have village killed because of him
have to protect people he loves
save friends adn the day at the end

(rinse and repeat for 3 more movies and spin offs/coolabortions)
Batman, laid low(no dfamily), earns powers, cant save gotham loses his family(basically gotham), fix thigns ride off into sunset.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:46:01 PM EDT
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They spent a four billion dollars for something then wrecked it in 7 years. LOL
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So it's 4X worse than I thought.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:48:34 PM EDT
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Has Disney and the SJW f*cked up the franchise so much that Lucas can't save it?

Wait, Lucas f*cked up the last Indiana Jones movie.

Best way to save it is to cut out the SJW, lesbo-homo sh*t and return to good old fashion story telling.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:50:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2019 6:52:27 PM EDT
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Saw one of these shirts being worn in the wild a few weeks back.
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Saw one of these shirts being worn in the wild a few weeks back.
one of my employees used to wear that.  Got a job offer and came for a counter:

"great offer,  you should take it. Good luck!"

her face;  pure shock.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:02:27 PM EDT
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What did you expect to see in this thread given the title?  
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Hey OP- please add a damn SPOILERS tag to your headline
What did you expect to see in this thread given the title?  
Seriously.  This movie is in the future.  This is the Internet.  In 2019.  Seriously?  I get SUCH a kick of people complaining about spoilers.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:03:16 PM EDT
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TFA was not a bad film to build a base off of. How it got this sideways since boggles the mind. How do you buy a multi-billion franchise and start making movies with NO PLAN.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:05:24 PM EDT
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Doomcock whether you like him or not broke this news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86DErk4e1zQ
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The Ruse of SoyWoker  
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:08:12 PM EDT
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... story's been played out
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The multi-decade success of the EU says that's wrong. And the fact that the canvas is 25,000+ years in an entire galaxy says the concept of being "played out" is idiotic. Some of the most entertaining stories take place in a couple cities on a planet or two.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:08:24 PM EDT
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The only good entry in the new Star Wars universe is Rogue One. Every other movie has been abject and utter garbage. They should stop milking this dead cow and move on already.
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Absolutely this.

JJ Abrams has the chance to revitalize both Star Trek AND Star Wars, but turned both into utterly mediocre comic book crap.

How he isn’t considered the ultimate evil in the Nerd Universe is beyond me.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:10:24 PM EDT
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They need a Illegal that is gay as the star and it would be a big hit.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:11:34 PM EDT
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When they bought SW from him, word was they snubbed all his ideas and more or less told him he could shove those ideas up his ass. There’s a lot of irony in this.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:15:24 PM EDT
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The same Lucas that gave us an action film based on a trade negotiation, a half hour of pod racing bullshit, and “I hate sand” as a romantic line?
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:18:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:37:53 PM EDT
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LOL @ the whole think.

All these leaks are just live testing the prospective plots, to see which one will lose them the least money.

I liked Solo, and Rogue Squad wasn't bad, maybe even borderline good. The Mandalorian might even be good.

But the main story arc is total trash, they tried redoing to originals with a few minor plot changes and more SJW BS and just utterly tossed the whole thing in the trash.

Good.

Maybe Hollyweird will try picking up a book next time.

It's not like there isn't over a 100 years worth of good, modern novels to chose from. They deserve what they get.

Remake this, remake that, remake it with a wiffle ball bat.

They could randomly pick any John Ringo, Larry Correia, Tam Kratman, etc, etc, book and make billions, but no...
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:40:08 PM EDT
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Jar jar binks was the only thing I liked about that movie...
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:44:03 PM EDT
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The only good entry in the new Star Wars universe is Rogue One. Every other movie has been abject and utter garbage. They should stop milking this dead cow and move on already.
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What they really need to do is start at the first one that came out and redo them all

I mean if 17 different jokers is good then it has to work
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:45:26 PM EDT
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They don't make their money selling tickets.  The big money comes from pushing ideologies.
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Is it normal practice in the movie industry to have so many different cuts? Like, I could understand two slightly different versions, but here we seem to be talking about three vastly different movies? I guess this tells a lot about how SW has turned into nothing than a money milking machine.
Hollywood just doesn't take writing seriously these days.  Can anyone imagine telling Shakespeare or JRR Tolkien to write different endings?  The ending is perhaps the most important part of the plot.  Either you hire someone talented enough to write a good ending or you're fucked.  Hollywood seems incapable of hiring talented writers.
They don't make their money selling tickets.  The big money comes from pushing ideologies.
Another Bad Ass Post by Brass.

Who I just noticed is now a Mod!



Wonder how much Soros money is involved in all this?
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:47:46 PM EDT
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Another Bad Ass Post by Brass.

Who I just noticed is now a Mod!



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I don’t think Soros paid to have Brass become a mod.  
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:47:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:48:49 PM EDT
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My idea is they fix it by going Gundam on the last movie. Everybody dies, many of them in futile ways.

OR they just adopt the idea the Red Letter Media guys came up with in their last video: a hundred different cuts of the film custom tailored to the audience. When you buy your ticket you are given a questionnaire, and depending on how you fill it out you get a ticket to a specific cut of the movie that aligns with your wishes. Want to see Luke kill everybody? That's a cut of the movie. Want to see Rey on the toilet for two hours? That's a cut of the movie.

Then the argument over how terrible the new films are changes to be an argument over which of the hundred different versions is the worst.
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Now that would show balls.
More or less admit the fucked up, have the first order "win", Destroy a fuckton of shit, get absolute control, bad guys in power setting up a "new trilogy".
One with Lucas input, Kennedy nowhere to be found.  
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:51:23 PM EDT
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They need to start fresh and make a series of movies from the old republic era

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Make it a high production value series,  with 6-13 episodes per season, each season is a different story, cast, etc, from a different corner of the galaxy.

Kharn
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:52:14 PM EDT
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Now that would show balls.
More or less admit the fucked up, have the first order "win", Destroy a fuckton of shit, get absolute control, bad guys in power setting up a "new trilogy".
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Lucas who from the reports came up with the idea of “a secret Skywalker”.  Wow.  That’s bold.  Maybe they’ll also have a planet destroyer super weapon to go with it.  
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:52:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:54:00 PM EDT
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They'd be better off calling in the folks who test screened episode 4 back in 1977 and saved it from George Lucas
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Make it a high production value series,  with 6-13 episodes per season, each season is a different story, cast, etc, from a different corner of the galaxy.

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That’s the sad part in this, and what the EU exploited.  Their universe is full of amazing story possibilities and all they can (with the Rogue One exception) is follow the same handful of blood lines.  
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 7:56:11 PM EDT
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Lucas who from the reports came up with the idea of “a secret Skywalker”.  Wow.  That’s bold.  Maybe they’ll also have a planet destroyer super weapon to go with it.  
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Now that would show balls.
More or less admit the fucked up, have the first order "win", Destroy a fuckton of shit, get absolute control, bad guys in power setting up a "new trilogy".
One with Lucas input, Kennedy nowhere to be found.  
Lucas who from the reports came up with the idea of “a secret Skywalker”.  Wow.  That’s bold.  Maybe they’ll also have a planet destroyer super weapon to go with it.  
If you're 90 yards from the endzone, 6 seconds on the clock, a hail mary seems like a good idea
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 8:02:26 PM EDT
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LOL @ the whole think.

All these leaks are just live testing the prospective plots, to see which one will lose them the least money.

I liked Solo, and Rogue Squad wasn't bad, maybe even borderline good. The Mandalorian might even be good.

But the main story arc is total trash, they tried redoing to originals with a few minor plot changes and more SJW BS and just utterly tossed the whole thing in the trash.

Good.

Maybe Hollyweird will try picking up a book next time.

It's not like there isn't over a 100 years worth of good, modern novels to chose from. They deserve what they get.

Remake this, remake that, remake it with a wiffle ball bat.

They could randomly pick any John Ringo, Larry Correia, Tam Kratman, etc, etc, book and make billions, but no...
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There are some great points here.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 8:04:19 PM EDT
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So here's how you fix it all.

Slow zoom on younger middle aged Luke meditating. Lukes eyes open. He rushes out of the room to talk to Han and Leia. He tells them he has been using the force to probe possible futures and what he has seen is pure crap and he knows how to avoid it all.

From there act like the last 2 main story star wars movies never existed. Rewrite all of it, there is a ton of great material out there about stuff after the empire. Use it.
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Then he tells his wife, Suzanne Plechette, to wear more sweaters
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 8:06:53 PM EDT
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Lucas waited too long to continue the story after ROTJ. He should have made another trilogy with everybody before they got too old. Maybe that would have helped the franchise before it got too badly screwed up.

As it is now I think it's unsalvagable.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 8:08:42 PM EDT
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Then he tells his wife, Suzanne Plechette, to wear more sweaters
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So here's how you fix it all.

Slow zoom on younger middle aged Luke meditating. Lukes eyes open. He rushes out of the room to talk to Han and Leia. He tells them he has been using the force to probe possible futures and what he has seen is pure crap and he knows how to avoid it all.

From there act like the last 2 main story star wars movies never existed. Rewrite all of it, there is a ton of great material out there about stuff after the empire. Use it.
Then he tells his wife, Suzanne Plechette, to wear more sweaters
I'm old enough to catch that reference!
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 8:11:40 PM EDT
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Lucas waited too long to continue the story after ROTJ. He should have made another trilogy with everybody before they got too old. Maybe that would have helped the franchise before it got too badly screwed up.

As it is now I think it's unsalvagable.
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One major theory was Lucas may have had very little to do with anything Star Wars. From what is sounds like, he was at most, involved in 15% of the original trilogy. When he came up with the Prequels, those were his babies and you can tell big time.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 8:14:40 PM EDT
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Can't say I'm surprised....

Original trilogy was lightening in a bottle. They should have stayed at 3.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 8:18:55 PM EDT
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One major theory was Lucas may have had very little to do with anything Star Wars. From what is sounds like, he was at most, involved in 15% of the original trilogy. When he came up with the Prequels, those were his babies and you can tell big time.
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I saw American Graffiti for the first time a few weeks ago - it was good.  I saw Star Wars in 1977. So there's that.

Empire Strikes Back was Irvin Kershner.  Why didn't Lucas helm that?
Return of the Jedi = Ewoks = Lucas.

The answer to why Star Wars is such a mess is simple.
Link Posted: 11/11/2019 8:18:56 PM EDT
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Woman inherits the Earth?
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Creates Star Wars, Fucks Star Wars, Sells Star Wars, Saves Star Wars?
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