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I've seen every Star Wars movie in the theaters with my mother, who is a huge sci-fi fan. After the last one, we both looked at each other like "WTF did we just watch?" We will most likely watch the next one just because of tradition but I don't have any hopes about quality.
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At least the Mandalorian looks decent. Word is that KK had very little to do with it, which would explain a great many things...
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Disney already threw all those stories out as non-canon. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They need to start fresh and make a series of movies from the old republic era Like a KOTOR movie The mobile game "Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes" has a bunch of Old Republic characters, and they're supposedly restricted to "only canon" characters. |
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not likely. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31480/515CAEDE-17A9-44EE-9876-D054A0BCC618_1_105_c-1141460.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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There is a classic hero cycle that resonates with humans of all cultures during all know history. Be it spoken, sung, written, a play, movie, etc. You can add some cute kid stuff for younger audiences, some dramatic twists, and various modifications, side orders, and dressings. What you can’t do is totally blow off the cycle. Hollywood wants to give us woke leads that are just handed OP, and kick ass with no risk of losing. Not a satisfying cycle. It does not resonate or connect. Classically it starts as a coming of age. Joe Blow picks up a magic crystal and saves a bunch of people. Effortlessly massacres minions, a couple of boss battles, and then the big bad and goes home a winner. That doesn’t cut it. But that is what Hollywood is giving us. Joe Blow is an orphan and slave. A mysterious stranger helps him escape. He trains him. Through dedication and effort he finds a magic crystal he was born to activate. He defeats minions, he becomes adored and showered with riches. He gets cocky and has his ass handed to him in a boss battle and loses the crystal. He goes into hiding and is hated. He overcomes his fear and with great effort and sacrifice and risk of life, finds the bosses. With the aid of his former mentor that dies getting him there. He defeats them and regains the crystal. He reaches full power. He seeks out the big bad knowing he will likely die even if he defeats him. He defeats him. This cuts it. It’s a mess. View Quote Earn your power. A demanding mentor. Have you lowest low. A hubris fall. Lose your gift. Earn and atone. Regain your gift. A worthy opponent defeated against all odds. Iron man(the one marvel movie that couldbe argued launched the multi billion dollar super hero craze) guy gets laid low and works in cave under gruling doncition using brain to fix things, gruling dad/mentor scenes get escape cave have village killed because of him have to protect people he loves save friends adn the day at the end (rinse and repeat for 3 more movies and spin offs/coolabortions) Batman, laid low(no dfamily), earns powers, cant save gotham loses his family(basically gotham), fix thigns ride off into sunset. |
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Has Disney and the SJW f*cked up the franchise so much that Lucas can't save it?
Wait, Lucas f*cked up the last Indiana Jones movie. Best way to save it is to cut out the SJW, lesbo-homo sh*t and return to good old fashion story telling. |
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Quoted: not likely. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31480/515CAEDE-17A9-44EE-9876-D054A0BCC618_1_105_c-1141460.jpg View Quote |
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Saw one of these shirts being worn in the wild a few weeks back. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Saw one of these shirts being worn in the wild a few weeks back. "great offer, you should take it. Good luck!" her face; pure shock. |
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What did you expect to see in this thread given the title? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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TFA was not a bad film to build a base off of. How it got this sideways since boggles the mind. How do you buy a multi-billion franchise and start making movies with NO PLAN.
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Doomcock whether you like him or not broke this news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86DErk4e1zQ View Quote |
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... story's been played out View Quote |
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The only good entry in the new Star Wars universe is Rogue One. Every other movie has been abject and utter garbage. They should stop milking this dead cow and move on already. View Quote JJ Abrams has the chance to revitalize both Star Trek AND Star Wars, but turned both into utterly mediocre comic book crap. How he isn’t considered the ultimate evil in the Nerd Universe is beyond me. |
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They need a Illegal that is gay as the star and it would be a big hit.
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When they bought SW from him, word was they snubbed all his ideas and more or less told him he could shove those ideas up his ass. There’s a lot of irony in this.
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LOL @ the whole think.
All these leaks are just live testing the prospective plots, to see which one will lose them the least money. I liked Solo, and Rogue Squad wasn't bad, maybe even borderline good. The Mandalorian might even be good. But the main story arc is total trash, they tried redoing to originals with a few minor plot changes and more SJW BS and just utterly tossed the whole thing in the trash. Good. Maybe Hollyweird will try picking up a book next time. It's not like there isn't over a 100 years worth of good, modern novels to chose from. They deserve what they get. Remake this, remake that, remake it with a wiffle ball bat. They could randomly pick any John Ringo, Larry Correia, Tam Kratman, etc, etc, book and make billions, but no... |
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Jar jar binks was the only thing I liked about that movie...
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The only good entry in the new Star Wars universe is Rogue One. Every other movie has been abject and utter garbage. They should stop milking this dead cow and move on already. View Quote I mean if 17 different jokers is good then it has to work |
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They don't make their money selling tickets. The big money comes from pushing ideologies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is it normal practice in the movie industry to have so many different cuts? Like, I could understand two slightly different versions, but here we seem to be talking about three vastly different movies? I guess this tells a lot about how SW has turned into nothing than a money milking machine. Who I just noticed is now a Mod! Wonder how much Soros money is involved in all this? |
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LOL @ the whole think. All these leaks are just live testing the prospective plots, to see which one will lose them the least money. I liked Solo, and Rogue Squad wasn't bad, maybe even borderline good. The Mandalorian might even be good. But the main story arc is total trash, they tried redoing to originals with a few minor plot changes and more SJW BS and just utterly tossed the whole thing in the trash. Good. Maybe Hollyweird will try picking up a book next time. It's not like there isn't over a 100 years worth of good, modern novels to chose from. They deserve what they get. Remake this, remake that, remake it with a wiffle ball bat. They could randomly pick any John Ringo, Larry Correia, Tam Kratman, etc, etc, book and make billions, but no... View Quote They don't start with the movie and turn it SJW. They start with the SJW and figure out how to fit some sort of movie into it. Doesn't matter how much it sucks, people will pay to see it anyway because of the name (Which was worth billions of dollars for this exact reason). |
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My idea is they fix it by going Gundam on the last movie. Everybody dies, many of them in futile ways. OR they just adopt the idea the Red Letter Media guys came up with in their last video: a hundred different cuts of the film custom tailored to the audience. When you buy your ticket you are given a questionnaire, and depending on how you fill it out you get a ticket to a specific cut of the movie that aligns with your wishes. Want to see Luke kill everybody? That's a cut of the movie. Want to see Rey on the toilet for two hours? That's a cut of the movie. Then the argument over how terrible the new films are changes to be an argument over which of the hundred different versions is the worst. View Quote More or less admit the fucked up, have the first order "win", Destroy a fuckton of shit, get absolute control, bad guys in power setting up a "new trilogy". One with Lucas input, Kennedy nowhere to be found. |
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Quoted: Now that would show balls. More or less admit the fucked up, have the first order "win", Destroy a fuckton of shit, get absolute control, bad guys in power setting up a "new trilogy". One with Lucas input, Kennedy nowhere to be found. View Quote |
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They'd be better off calling in the folks who test screened episode 4 back in 1977 and saved it from George Lucas
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Make it a high production value series, with 6-13 episodes per season, each season is a different story, cast, etc, from a different corner of the galaxy. Kharn View Quote |
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Lucas who from the reports came up with the idea of “a secret Skywalker”. Wow. That’s bold. Maybe they’ll also have a planet destroyer super weapon to go with it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Now that would show balls. More or less admit the fucked up, have the first order "win", Destroy a fuckton of shit, get absolute control, bad guys in power setting up a "new trilogy". One with Lucas input, Kennedy nowhere to be found. |
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LOL @ the whole think. All these leaks are just live testing the prospective plots, to see which one will lose them the least money. I liked Solo, and Rogue Squad wasn't bad, maybe even borderline good. The Mandalorian might even be good. But the main story arc is total trash, they tried redoing to originals with a few minor plot changes and more SJW BS and just utterly tossed the whole thing in the trash. Good. Maybe Hollyweird will try picking up a book next time. It's not like there isn't over a 100 years worth of good, modern novels to chose from. They deserve what they get. Remake this, remake that, remake it with a wiffle ball bat. They could randomly pick any John Ringo, Larry Correia, Tam Kratman, etc, etc, book and make billions, but no... View Quote |
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So here's how you fix it all. Slow zoom on younger middle aged Luke meditating. Lukes eyes open. He rushes out of the room to talk to Han and Leia. He tells them he has been using the force to probe possible futures and what he has seen is pure crap and he knows how to avoid it all. From there act like the last 2 main story star wars movies never existed. Rewrite all of it, there is a ton of great material out there about stuff after the empire. Use it. View Quote |
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Lucas waited too long to continue the story after ROTJ. He should have made another trilogy with everybody before they got too old. Maybe that would have helped the franchise before it got too badly screwed up.
As it is now I think it's unsalvagable. |
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Then he tells his wife, Suzanne Plechette, to wear more sweaters View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So here's how you fix it all. Slow zoom on younger middle aged Luke meditating. Lukes eyes open. He rushes out of the room to talk to Han and Leia. He tells them he has been using the force to probe possible futures and what he has seen is pure crap and he knows how to avoid it all. From there act like the last 2 main story star wars movies never existed. Rewrite all of it, there is a ton of great material out there about stuff after the empire. Use it. |
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Lucas waited too long to continue the story after ROTJ. He should have made another trilogy with everybody before they got too old. Maybe that would have helped the franchise before it got too badly screwed up. As it is now I think it's unsalvagable. View Quote |
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Can't say I'm surprised....
Original trilogy was lightening in a bottle. They should have stayed at 3. |
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One major theory was Lucas may have had very little to do with anything Star Wars. From what is sounds like, he was at most, involved in 15% of the original trilogy. When he came up with the Prequels, those were his babies and you can tell big time. View Quote Empire Strikes Back was Irvin Kershner. Why didn't Lucas helm that? Return of the Jedi = Ewoks = Lucas. The answer to why Star Wars is such a mess is simple. |
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