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All of those people are dead.
Dude at 1:43 has style.
Not completely true. Plenty of veterans around.
Also tons of the children still around. My grandmother was 9 when the war ended and experienced Dresden first hand.
Emotions took hold.
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I think its something a lot of people forget - there were tons of children in this who experienced some of the worst horrors ever. For all the braggard bravado in this thread, people don't want to look at the real nature of the war.
The things my grandma saw were beyond belief, and they're things you don't often hear about. It's only been within the past 5 years or so that she's started sharing them... likely because she knows when she's gone those memories are gone. A 9 year old seeing Things like Dresden where bodies were everywhere and being placed in piles to burn up? The smell, sounds, and sights associated with that, for days on end, with the looming fear of Russians who you just saw rape, loot, and kill coming in on top of that?
I will never be convinced that widespread bombing of cities was the proper approach. Ever. I know you'll have bad asses here commenting that "hurr durr Germans deserved it" - but what does a child have anything to do with deserving such a thing? Anyone who has a child could never imagine having to put their kid through the real horrors of what happened there.
It's those same bad asses here who have never seen a real all out war and talk shit. I thought it was "neat" too and that America were bad asses who beat those evil Nazis until I saw and heard the stories first hand. Then my mindset changed. I started looking into things myself. Talking to people who were in the actual war, and who were victims of it. Talking to people who lived there about the situation before, and after the war. There's so much information not in history books.
At the end of the day, the biggest victims weren't the soldiers, its the families. The normal workers going about life trying to make ends meet. The farmers who just want to be left alone and enjoy the land. Fathers and brothers who are to this day permanently missing. Mothers who were killed trying to bring their children to safety on trains that got strafed. Children who never got to see their parent(s) again, and lived their entire adult life wishing their parent(s) were there for their birthdays, Christmas, etc. Tons of families were never made whole again. That message is often lost.
WWII was a war unlike anyone has seen since. All the other wars since then pale in comparison. Somewhere along the way between then and now, we, as the west forgot what was important in life. We lost our moral compass, and allowed subversion to rot us from within. At some point we stopped caring about what's really important and the lessons learned from that struggle. Sadly, because of this, I believe we will see another such world war in my generation. There's too much in common between the events leading up to then and now, and while history doesn't repeat itself, it sure as heck rhymes.