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Posted: 3/5/2016 11:53:02 AM EDT
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Trump showed us what he believes when he openly-bragged about committing adultery multiple times. Trump vs. Hillary is New York liberal vs. New York liberal. Trump vs. Hillary is socialist vs. socialist. Evil vs. evil. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe you are right.......I can certainly understand why you feel this way............but I will vote for him in order to keep Satan out of the White House. I'll just have to take my chances.............I have no other choice........Satan CANNOT WIN!!! Trump showed us what he believes when he openly-bragged about committing adultery multiple times. Trump vs. Hillary is New York liberal vs. New York liberal. Trump vs. Hillary is socialist vs. socialist. Evil vs. evil. Look.............you are giving me YOUR OPINION............maybe you are right..........maybe not. What I do KNOW IS HILLARY IS FUCKING EVIL...............she CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO WIN. We MUST TAKE OUR CHANCES. THAT IS MY OPINION!! |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 11:53:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Romney was an honest man, known throughout his religious leadership, business leadership, and leadership at the Olympics as a man of honor and integrity. Romney was approached by constitutional conservatives during the Olympics, and was asked to run for Governor of Utah --the most conservative state in the US-- when he was done leading the Olympics. Romney was formally petitioned by constitutional conservatives who claimed they were inspired by Romney's leadership abilities to run for governor of a conservative state. Romney was from Massachusetts. Trump announced an interest in running for President in 1988. Trump formed a committee in 1989. Trump has been a "politician" ever since. Trump formally became a registered Democrat after that. Trump supported liberal anti-gun candidates and causes after that. Supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities De Blasio two years ago. Romney was petitioned to run for Governor of Utah... Trump? Has Trump been petitioned by conservatives to run for dog catcher anywhere... IF (they are not) the same type of candidate... Where was Trump petitioned to run as a conservative outside the state of New York...? Could it be that Trump was a registered Democrat? Could it be that Trump funded and supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities liberal candidates and issues...? My point is that they are *not* the same. They have different values, and platforms. Romney also had a pro-NRA record, and a record of cutting the size and cost of government... Link Link With Romney's endorsement from the NRA, with the NRA making-clear in plain-English that Romney had done the bidding of the NRA... A conservative could in good-conscience support "God Bless America!" Romney vs. "G- D- America!" Obama. With Romney's clear record on cutting taxes and cutting the size of government... A conservative could in good-conscience support Romney vs. Obama. Trump? Trump has no record. Trump contradicts his own message and statements on a *daily* basis. The one constant: "Make the government pay for it" socialism. Trump vs. Hillary is socialist vs. socialist. Trump vs. Hillary is evil vs. evil. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When you put it like that he sounds a lot like the 2012 nominee, except for some reason you loved that version of a progressive GOP nominee???? Romney was an honest man, known throughout his religious leadership, business leadership, and leadership at the Olympics as a man of honor and integrity. Romney was approached by constitutional conservatives during the Olympics, and was asked to run for Governor of Utah --the most conservative state in the US-- when he was done leading the Olympics. Romney was formally petitioned by constitutional conservatives who claimed they were inspired by Romney's leadership abilities to run for governor of a conservative state. Romney was from Massachusetts. Trump announced an interest in running for President in 1988. Trump formed a committee in 1989. Trump has been a "politician" ever since. Trump formally became a registered Democrat after that. Trump supported liberal anti-gun candidates and causes after that. Supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities De Blasio two years ago. Romney was petitioned to run for Governor of Utah... Trump? Has Trump been petitioned by conservatives to run for dog catcher anywhere... IF (they are not) the same type of candidate... Where was Trump petitioned to run as a conservative outside the state of New York...? Could it be that Trump was a registered Democrat? Could it be that Trump funded and supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities liberal candidates and issues...? My point is that they are *not* the same. They have different values, and platforms. Romney also had a pro-NRA record, and a record of cutting the size and cost of government... Link Link With Romney's endorsement from the NRA, with the NRA making-clear in plain-English that Romney had done the bidding of the NRA... A conservative could in good-conscience support "God Bless America!" Romney vs. "G- D- America!" Obama. With Romney's clear record on cutting taxes and cutting the size of government... A conservative could in good-conscience support Romney vs. Obama. Trump? Trump has no record. Trump contradicts his own message and statements on a *daily* basis. The one constant: "Make the government pay for it" socialism. Trump vs. Hillary is socialist vs. socialist. Trump vs. Hillary is evil vs. evil. Romney implemented obamacare before obama, Romney actually signed an AWB.............
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Posted: 3/5/2016 11:53:58 AM EDT
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Yeah, just as much of an ally of conservative ideals like Alex Jones. You don't associate with the crazies, that is rule number one in keeping your public image. You don't see Alex Jones hanging out with Trump very often now do you? Beck might be crazy, I don't know. It might all be an act, I don't know. What I do know is that Beck outlined years ago that there would be a socialist like Trump rise-up in the Republican ranks, and run on a campaign eerily similar to Obama's. Complete with smoke and mirrors to defend their socialist agenda. Beck, crazy or not, is 100% right on Trumps socialist agenda. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 11:56:30 AM EDT
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Romney was an honest man, known throughout his religious leadership, business leadership, and leadership at the Olympics as a man of honor and integrity. Romney was approached by constitutional conservatives during the Olympics, and was asked to run for Governor of Utah --the most conservative state in the US-- when he was done leading the Olympics. Romney was formally petitioned by constitutional conservatives who claimed they were inspired by Romney's leadership abilities to run for governor of a conservative state. Romney was from Massachusetts. Trump announced an interest in running for President in 1988. Trump formed a committee in 1989. Trump has been a "politician" ever since. Trump formally became a registered Democrat after that. Trump supported liberal anti-gun candidates and causes after that. Supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities De Blasio two years ago. Romney was petitioned to run for Governor of Utah... Trump? Has Trump been petitioned by conservatives to run for dog catcher anywhere... IF (they are not) the same type of candidate... Where was Trump petitioned to run as a conservative outside the state of New York...? Could it be that Trump was a registered Democrat? Could it be that Trump funded and supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities liberal candidates and issues...? My point is that they are *not* the same. They have different values, and platforms. Romney also had a pro-NRA record, and a record of cutting the size and cost of government... Link Link With Romney's endorsement from the NRA, with the NRA making-clear in plain-English that Romney had done the bidding of the NRA... A conservative could in good-conscience support "God Bless America!" Romney vs. "G- D- America!" Obama. With Romney's clear record on cutting taxes and cutting the size of government... A conservative could in good-conscience support Romney vs. Obama. Trump? Trump has no record. Trump contradicts his own message and statements on a *daily* basis. The one constant: "Make the government pay for it" socialism. Trump vs. Hillary is socialist vs. socialist. Trump vs. Hillary is evil vs. evil. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When you put it like that he sounds a lot like the 2012 nominee, except for some reason you loved that version of a progressive GOP nominee???? Romney was an honest man, known throughout his religious leadership, business leadership, and leadership at the Olympics as a man of honor and integrity. Romney was approached by constitutional conservatives during the Olympics, and was asked to run for Governor of Utah --the most conservative state in the US-- when he was done leading the Olympics. Romney was formally petitioned by constitutional conservatives who claimed they were inspired by Romney's leadership abilities to run for governor of a conservative state. Romney was from Massachusetts. Trump announced an interest in running for President in 1988. Trump formed a committee in 1989. Trump has been a "politician" ever since. Trump formally became a registered Democrat after that. Trump supported liberal anti-gun candidates and causes after that. Supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities De Blasio two years ago. Romney was petitioned to run for Governor of Utah... Trump? Has Trump been petitioned by conservatives to run for dog catcher anywhere... IF (they are not) the same type of candidate... Where was Trump petitioned to run as a conservative outside the state of New York...? Could it be that Trump was a registered Democrat? Could it be that Trump funded and supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities liberal candidates and issues...? My point is that they are *not* the same. They have different values, and platforms. Romney also had a pro-NRA record, and a record of cutting the size and cost of government... Link Link With Romney's endorsement from the NRA, with the NRA making-clear in plain-English that Romney had done the bidding of the NRA... A conservative could in good-conscience support "God Bless America!" Romney vs. "G- D- America!" Obama. With Romney's clear record on cutting taxes and cutting the size of government... A conservative could in good-conscience support Romney vs. Obama. Trump? Trump has no record. Trump contradicts his own message and statements on a *daily* basis. The one constant: "Make the government pay for it" socialism. Trump vs. Hillary is socialist vs. socialist. Trump vs. Hillary is evil vs. evil. Since you admire Romney so much let's take a look at how he feels about Trump. “Donald Trump has shown an extraordinary ability to understand how our economy works,” Romney said, citing Trump’s record as a job creator. And, he concluded, “it means a great deal to me to have the endorsement of Mr. Trump.” At least Romney doesn't think Trump is a socialist. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 11:56:41 AM EDT
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Um, he didn't. The Canadian booger eater's militia is reduced to outright lying now. No one is lying about Trumps socialist agenda on healthcare he published in his book "The America We Deserve." Trumps formally-published healthcare plan matches Sanders and Hillary almost word-for-word... And he has since clarified it... "Make the government pay for it..." When a socialist says, they are going to make the government pay for it, what they are *really* saying is that they are going to raise taxes. What they are really saying is that they are going to punish tax payers. Trump vs. Hillary is New York liberal vs. New York liberal. Socialist vs. Socialist. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 11:59:03 AM EDT
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Trump is playing you with smoke and mirrors. You can't, "build a wall" and have it work while you are supporting sanctuary cities. Trump supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities mayor De Blasio as early as two years ago. The wall won't work as long as there are sanctuary cities for the folks to get to. In Trumps published book, "The America We Deserve" Trump clearly-outlines his socialist agenda on healthcare. Trumps clearly-published in plain-English agenda is the *exact* same as Sanders and Hillary. Trump is a socialist. Hillary is a socialist. Trump vs. Hillary is evil vs. evil. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't always pay attention to every word that comes out of these politicians pie holes but when did Trump say he wanted more government? His healthcare plan seems to be in line with conservative ideas and his immigration policy is far right. Trump is playing you with smoke and mirrors. You can't, "build a wall" and have it work while you are supporting sanctuary cities. Trump supported anti-gun, sanctuary-cities mayor De Blasio as early as two years ago. The wall won't work as long as there are sanctuary cities for the folks to get to. In Trumps published book, "The America We Deserve" Trump clearly-outlines his socialist agenda on healthcare. Trumps clearly-published in plain-English agenda is the *exact* same as Sanders and Hillary. Trump is a socialist. Hillary is a socialist. Trump vs. Hillary is evil vs. evil. What good is a sanctuary city if all illegals have been deported. Billionaires play by the rules set up by our policy makers. There was a time when Gates was not political. He found out the hard way that he had to spread the wealth. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:03:37 PM EDT
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Isn't Beck from WA State? Just saying, that place is loonville defined.
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:03:39 PM EDT
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News flash for you; we have a government that isn't going away and the whole nation sees that it isn't working when it clearly should be. That is part of Trump's message and one of the reasons he is winning. That doesn't make Trump a socialist, or evil, or a snakeoil salesman, or Hitler. What makes Trump a socialist is his demand to make the government the intervener in everything hat needs to fix society. Trump is the same candidate as Obama. They both claimed they were going to use government to solve problems. Obama promised that he would use *his* people and ideals to fix the problems -- using government-- Trump is promising to use *his* people and ideals to fix the problems --using government-- Neither of them are promising to reduce the power of the presidency. Neither of them are promising to reduce the power of the Federal government. That is what makes Obama a socialist. It is what makes Trump a socialist. That, and Trump formally published support for single-payer... Trump flip-flops daily. Trump gives his supporers neck pain from the whiplash of his changing policies and positions... And its only the Primaries. Trump changes direction with the wind. The supporters of his socialist agenda like that for some strange reason. The truth... Trump vs. Hillary is socialist vs. socialist. Evil vs. evil. What makes Trump a socialist are his formal published words outlining his support for socialized medicine. His recent, "make the government pay for it " socialist platform, and his demand to strengthen (not weaken) the power of the Presidency and the Federal Government at the expense of individual and states rights. Trump vs. Hillary is New York liberal vs. New York liberal. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:06:07 PM EDT
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THAT IS MY OPINION!! Then we are going to have to agree to disagree then. You get the same person behind the curtain with either New York liberal Hilary or New York liberal playboy Trump. They both support making the Federal government bigger and more expensive. Behind the curtain they are the same thing. I will have to agree to disagree with you, then. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:07:24 PM EDT
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I think Trump is dangerous but Beck is a fucking loon, a huckster and a self serving scum bag. This is schtick and that's all it is. Fuck Beck. Don't steal my fucking word I brought it into this discussion I want it back. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:08:08 PM EDT
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Then we are going to have to agree to disagree then. You get the same person behind the curtain with either New York liberal Hilary or New York liberal playboy Trump. They both support making the Federal government bigger and more expensive. Behind the curtain they are the same thing. I will have to agree to disagree with you, then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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THAT IS MY OPINION!! Then we are going to have to agree to disagree then. You get the same person behind the curtain with either New York liberal Hilary or New York liberal playboy Trump. They both support making the Federal government bigger and more expensive. Behind the curtain they are the same thing. I will have to agree to disagree with you, then. Now, ON THAT we agree. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:08:30 PM EDT
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The fact that all of the so called "leaders" in our country are scrambling to attack him from all directions is all I need to support Trump.
The same "leaders" who gave us obama and have been directing us down the wrong path for over 20 years now. Fuck them. I don't care if trump is the anti-christ, I would choose any outsider over what we have now. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:11:10 PM EDT
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Lol....Beck.says....Cruz says these are my ideals and this is what I stand for like Reagan did.....but just before criticizes Trump for being a deal maker....whatever....why was Reagan great....becausr he made Great Deals....sounds familiar.
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:13:26 PM EDT
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Romney implemented obamacare before obama, Romney actually signed an AWB............. Romney loved Trump and his money before he didn't.
Trumps, "single payer" healthcare plan he formally published in "The America We Deserve" is to the far-left of "Romneycare." Romney passed "Romneycare" as an alternative to the Trump-supported (back when Trump was a Democrat) single-payer alternative in Massachusetts. Democrats held the majority. They held all the cards. If you want to complain about Romney, then look at the alternative at the time: single payer. Romney was praised by conservatives for stopping Trumps plan: "single-payer." Trump supported banning assault weapons, and formally published support for gun-bans. Romney --on the other hand-- did the bidding of the NRA... Link Don't forget... Trump was a full-on anti-gun Democrat at the time. Trump was a formally registered Democrat. Trump supported the DNC agenda. And anti-gun Democrats held a veto-proof majority in MA, and had long since passed anti-gun laws long before Romney was on any ballot. The NRA claims in plain-English that Romney did *their* bidding. I find no such statements from the NRA towards Trump... Look at the NRA link. It is in plain-English that Romney made things better for gun owners in MA... Plain-English. Romney was petitioned by constitutional conservatives to run for Governor of Utah after the Olympics. Trump has been a politician since 1988... Why have no conservatives asked Trump to run for dog catcher since then? Is it because Trump was formally an anti-gun Democrat? Honest question...? |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:17:04 PM EDT
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Beck is 100% correct. The problem with Trump is not that he sees government as the problem. Trump sees the government as a solution. Trump *is* a socialist. Trump *is* a progressive. Beck is 100% correct. Trump does not get up and say, "Get rid of the size and scope of government. Government is the problem." Trump says, "We need a stronger more-expensive government. We just need the right people in government..." *That* is the definition of progressive. Trump is a socialist. Trump is evil. Trump is the snakeoil salesman... You can also replace the word 'Trump' with any candidate currently in the race, with the exception of Cruz. It's either going to be Trump vs. Shrillary, or some GOP establishment prick vs. Shrillary. Pick your poison carefully. As only one will shake up the status quo, the other will fracture the right and guarantee a Dem victory
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:19:18 PM EDT
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After going through about 2/3 of page one I realize that A: Trump supporters have a lot in common with Saul Alynski a communist. And B: They support a fascist.
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:19:25 PM EDT
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Since you admire Romney so much let's take a look at how he feels about Trump. . They have both flung mud recently... I think that argument is out the window... Let me ask you a question... During the Olympics, constitutional conservatives petitioned Romney to run for Governor of Utah when the Olympics were over. Romney is from Massachusetts. Trump announced his candidacy for President in 1988, formally formed a committee in 1989. And shortly after formally joined the Democrat Party. Subscribing to the DNC platform. Anti-gun. Sanctuary-cities. The whole nine yards. Trump has been a politician since 1988. I can see the constitutional conservatives claim that they were inspired by Romney's lead-from-the-front leadership style, and ask Romney to run for Governor. But I don't see *any* conservatives ask Trump to run for *anything* anywhere since 1988... Why is that? Honest question. Why have no conservatives *anywhere* ask Trump to run for *anything.* Governor of Texas? Nope. No petition to get a liberal New Yorker to run for Governor of Texas. South Carolina? Nope. No petition to get a New York liberal to run for Governor of South Carolina. Romney was petitioned to run for Governor of the most-conservative state in the US. Trump has not been asked to run for Governor *anywhere.* From a supporter of Trumps liberal record and socialist platform... Perhaps you could answer the question... ***WHY?*** |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:19:32 PM EDT
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I'm ascared of Beck. He might try to stab me if I don't agree with him.
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:22:10 PM EDT
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Beck made some points which I also wonder about, like the Constitution.
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:23:53 PM EDT
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Lol....Beck.says....Cruz says these are my ideals and this is what I stand for like Reagan did.....but just before criticizes Trump for being a deal maker....whatever....why was Reagan great....becausr he made Great Deals....sounds familiar. You cannot compare the two because Cruz is closer to a Constitutionalist v a Conservative. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:24:00 PM EDT
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Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point.
Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump. 
Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump.
What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:24:01 PM EDT
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What good is a sanctuary city if all illegals have been deported. Billionaires play by the rules set up by our policy makers. There was a time when Gates was not political. He found out the hard way that he had to spread the wealth. Trump has already flip-flopped on his "deport them all..." And... He is not going to do it... He has already flip-flopped on this issue.. He is not going to do it... But lets say he does.... How would he be able to do it without expanding the role, power, and expense of the Federal government... Yes... He has already flip-flopped on this... But lets say he flip-flops back... How would he deport 20 million people, and not order "Martial Law" (an enemy of conservative ideals). How could he do it, and not expand the role, power, and expense of the Federal Government. I don't think he could do it without activating the US Military on American soil... That should scare the socks off of *any* *real* conservative... This is the kind of issue that shows who the real conservatives *really* are |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:24:44 PM EDT
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Trump 2016
Burn it down. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:26:16 PM EDT
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You can also replace the word 'Trump' with any candidate currently in the race, with the exception of Cruz. There is *zero* disagreement between you and I on this. There is no disagreement at all. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:29:54 PM EDT
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Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point. Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump.
Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump.
What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. The "GOPe" has been flocking to Trumps liberal past and socialist platform like moths to a flame recently... Gingrich... Multiple adulterer... Lifetime in Washington DC... Supports Trump. Sessions... Takes money from special-interest groups that also fund the Democrat Party... Entrenched Republican... Supports Trump. Christie... Liberal Republican. Shares New Jersey values with his New York neighbor... Anti-gun... Supports Trump. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:31:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Beck might be crazy, I don't know. It might all be an act, I don't know. What I do know is that Beck outlined years ago that there would be a socialist like Trump rise-up in the Republican ranks, and run on a campaign eerily similar to Obama's. Complete with smoke and mirrors to defend their socialist agenda. Beck, crazy or not, is 100% right on Trumps socialist agenda. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, just as much of an ally of conservative ideals like Alex Jones. You don't associate with the crazies, that is rule number one in keeping your public image. You don't see Alex Jones hanging out with Trump very often now do you? Beck might be crazy, I don't know. It might all be an act, I don't know. What I do know is that Beck outlined years ago that there would be a socialist like Trump rise-up in the Republican ranks, and run on a campaign eerily similar to Obama's. Complete with smoke and mirrors to defend their socialist agenda. Beck, crazy or not, is 100% right on Trumps socialist agenda. Beck is not a fan of the populist movement. To him that would scream "Fascist" or "Hitler" like how those very alarm bells are going off of those trying to take down Trump as they become more and more desperate. A lot of people tend to gloss over populist movements and always go straight to "Fascist." Also, Trump is pretty far from a socialist, he's a businessman who is advocating for a protectionist view on the economy, and wants us to be free of international obligations. He's already against NAFTA since it allows companies a tax-free pass to move jobs and locations to Mexico or Canada. He wants to keep the jobs here. I also want him because he is the largest proverbial middle finger to the GOP. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:32:08 PM EDT
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Trump has already flip-flopped on his "deport them all..." And... He is not going to do it... He has already flip-flopped on this issue.. He is not going to do it... But lets say he does.... How would he be able to do it without expanding the role, power, and expense of the Federal government... Yes... He has already flip-flopped on this... But lets say he flip-flops back... How would he deport 20 million people, and not order "Martial Law" (an enemy of conservative ideals). How could he do it, and not expand the role, power, and expense of the Federal Government. I don't think he could do it without activating the US Military on American soil... That should scare the socks off of *any* *real* conservative... This is the kind of issue that shows who the real conservatives *really* are Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What good is a sanctuary city if all illegals have been deported. Billionaires play by the rules set up by our policy makers. There was a time when Gates was not political. He found out the hard way that he had to spread the wealth. Trump has already flip-flopped on his "deport them all..." And... He is not going to do it... He has already flip-flopped on this issue.. He is not going to do it... But lets say he does.... How would he be able to do it without expanding the role, power, and expense of the Federal government... Yes... He has already flip-flopped on this... But lets say he flip-flops back... How would he deport 20 million people, and not order "Martial Law" (an enemy of conservative ideals). How could he do it, and not expand the role, power, and expense of the Federal Government. I don't think he could do it without activating the US Military on American soil... That should scare the socks off of *any* *real* conservative... This is the kind of issue that shows who the real conservatives *really* are His supporters are the same ones that voted obama. They only hear his speeches but don't listen to the words. "Make America great again" is no different the "hope and change". But some how i think it is fitting the beginning of the end for America will be with a reality show President. They will get celebrity apprentice white house edition, and be totally happy flipping to Trumps new conference during the commercials in american idol. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:32:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point. Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump. Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump. What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. Making SHITTY deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump. FIFY |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:34:24 PM EDT
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Beck is not a fan of the populist movement. To him that would scream "Fascist" or "Hitler" like how those very alarm bells are going off of those trying to take down Trump as they become more and more desperate. A lot of people tend to gloss over populist movements and always go straight to "Fascist." Also, Trump is pretty far from a socialist, he's a businessman who is advocating for a protectionist view on the economy, and wants us to be free of international obligations. He's already against NAFTA since it allows companies a tax-free pass to move jobs and locations to Mexico or Canada. He wants to keep the jobs here. I also want him because he is the largest proverbial middle finger to the GOP.
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Yeah, just as much of an ally of conservative ideals like Alex Jones. You don't associate with the crazies, that is rule number one in keeping your public image. You don't see Alex Jones hanging out with Trump very often now do you? Beck might be crazy, I don't know. It might all be an act, I don't know. What I do know is that Beck outlined years ago that there would be a socialist like Trump rise-up in the Republican ranks, and run on a campaign eerily similar to Obama's. Complete with smoke and mirrors to defend their socialist agenda. Beck, crazy or not, is 100% right on Trumps socialist agenda. Beck is not a fan of the populist movement. To him that would scream "Fascist" or "Hitler" like how those very alarm bells are going off of those trying to take down Trump as they become more and more desperate. A lot of people tend to gloss over populist movements and always go straight to "Fascist." Also, Trump is pretty far from a socialist, he's a businessman who is advocating for a protectionist view on the economy, and wants us to be free of international obligations. He's already against NAFTA since it allows companies a tax-free pass to move jobs and locations to Mexico or Canada. He wants to keep the jobs here. I also want him because he is the largest proverbial middle finger to the GOP.
False Ted Cruz is the largest middle finger to the fedgov. DNC and GOP. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:35:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look.............you are giving me YOUR OPINION............maybe you are right..........maybe not. What I do KNOW IS HILLARY IS FUCKING EVIL...............she CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO WIN. We MUST TAKE OUR CHANCES. THAT IS MY OPINION!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe you are right.......I can certainly understand why you feel this way............but I will vote for him in order to keep Satan out of the White House. I'll just have to take my chances.............I have no other choice........Satan CANNOT WIN!!! Trump showed us what he believes when he openly-bragged about committing adultery multiple times. Trump vs. Hillary is New York liberal vs. New York liberal. Trump vs. Hillary is socialist vs. socialist. Evil vs. evil. Look.............you are giving me YOUR OPINION............maybe you are right..........maybe not. What I do KNOW IS HILLARY IS FUCKING EVIL...............she CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO WIN. We MUST TAKE OUR CHANCES. THAT IS MY OPINION!! |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:36:14 PM EDT
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I love it! In this thread, we see the classic Trump and Trumpster response...ignore the argument and kill the messenger rather than refute it with facts.
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trumps, "single payer" healthcare plan he formally published in "The America We Deserve" is to the far-left of "Romneycare." Romney passed "Romneycare" as an alternative to the Trump-supported (back when Trump was a Democrat) single-payer alternative in Massachusetts. Democrats held the majority. They held all the cards. If you want to complain about Romney, then look at the alternative at the time: single payer. Romney was praised by conservatives for stopping Trumps plan: "single-payer." Trump supported banning assault weapons, and formally published support for gun-bans. Romney --on the other hand-- did the bidding of the NRA... Link Don't forget... Trump was a full-on anti-gun Democrat at the time. Trump was a formally registered Democrat. Trump supported the DNC agenda. And anti-gun Democrats held a veto-proof majority in MA, and had long since passed anti-gun laws long before Romney was on any ballot. The NRA claims in plain-English that Romney did *their* bidding. I find no such statements from the NRA towards Trump... Look at the NRA link. It is in plain-English that Romney made things better for gun owners in MA... Plain-English. Romney was petitioned by constitutional conservatives to run for Governor of Utah after the Olympics. Trump has been a politician since 1988... Why have no conservatives asked Trump to run for dog catcher since then? Is it because Trump was formally an anti-gun Democrat? Honest question...? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Romney implemented obamacare before obama, Romney actually signed an AWB............. Romney loved Trump and his money before he didn't. Trumps, "single payer" healthcare plan he formally published in "The America We Deserve" is to the far-left of "Romneycare." Romney passed "Romneycare" as an alternative to the Trump-supported (back when Trump was a Democrat) single-payer alternative in Massachusetts. Democrats held the majority. They held all the cards. If you want to complain about Romney, then look at the alternative at the time: single payer. Romney was praised by conservatives for stopping Trumps plan: "single-payer." Trump supported banning assault weapons, and formally published support for gun-bans. Romney --on the other hand-- did the bidding of the NRA... Link Don't forget... Trump was a full-on anti-gun Democrat at the time. Trump was a formally registered Democrat. Trump supported the DNC agenda. And anti-gun Democrats held a veto-proof majority in MA, and had long since passed anti-gun laws long before Romney was on any ballot. The NRA claims in plain-English that Romney did *their* bidding. I find no such statements from the NRA towards Trump... Look at the NRA link. It is in plain-English that Romney made things better for gun owners in MA... Plain-English. Romney was petitioned by constitutional conservatives to run for Governor of Utah after the Olympics. Trump has been a politician since 1988... Why have no conservatives asked Trump to run for dog catcher since then? Is it because Trump was formally an anti-gun Democrat? Honest question...? More rationalizing, blah, blah, blah......................
If Trump was a Mormon I'm guessing you'd overlook all his flaws as well.  |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:36:34 PM EDT
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Maybe you are right.......I can certainly understand why you feel this way............but I will vote for him in order to keep Satan out of the White House. I'll just have to take my chances.............I have no other choice........Satan CANNOT WIN!!! Trump showed us what he believes when he openly-bragged about committing adultery multiple times. Trump vs. Hillary is New York liberal vs. New York liberal. Trump vs. Hillary is socialist vs. socialist. Evil vs. evil. Look.............you are giving me YOUR OPINION............maybe you are right..........maybe not. What I do KNOW IS HILLARY IS FUCKING EVIL...............she CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO WIN. We MUST TAKE OUR CHANCES. THAT IS MY OPINION!! And voting for another NY leftist thats friends with the clintons is any different? |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:36:56 PM EDT
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Beck is 100% correct. The problem with Trump is not that he sees government as the problem. Trump sees the government as a solution. Trump *is* a socialist. Trump *is* a progressive. Beck is 100% correct. Trump does not get up and say, "Get rid of the size and scope of government. Government is the problem." Trump says, "We need a stronger more-expensive government. We just need the right people in government..." *That* is the definition of progressive. Trump is a socialist. Trump is evil. Trump is the snakeoil salesman... Which is different from the current Republican Party, where? I voted Cruz in the primary, but seriously? I'll still roll the dice on Trump. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:37:06 PM EDT
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Making SHITTY deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump.
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Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point. Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump.
Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump.
What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. Making SHITTY deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump.
FIFY ANY deal with a democrat is a bad deal, they don't make deals unless they get in someway a piece of what they want. Anything they get will be chipping away at the Constitution. The dems are very very good at the long game. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:37:06 PM EDT
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Also, Trump is pretty far from a socialist, In Trumps published book, "The America We Deserve" Trumps formally published agenda on healthcare matches the Hillary/Sanders model word-for-word: Single payer. Yes, Trump is a, "make the government pay for it" socialist. Trump demands that government fix the problems. Trump does not identify the top-heavy government *as* part of the problem. Trump advocates making the Federal government stronger, more-powerful and more-expensive as a tool for fixing the problem. Socialist. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:37:48 PM EDT
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You can call Beck crazy but this is the same exact reason why I and many like me are anti Trump.  http://youtu.be/Jpf5BipKbh4Cliff notes, can't bring myself to watch Beck. Been there, done that. Never mind, topic seems to have been covered. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:38:52 PM EDT
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I love it! In this thread, we see the classic Trump and Trumpster response...ignore the argument and kill the messenger rather than refute it with facts. Actions not words. Show me his actions on what he has done. Has he donated any money to fight the NYSAFE Act or any other pro 2A lawsuit/organization? He's admitted to hiring illegals but wants them all out of the country... Unless he needs more employee's. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:39:05 PM EDT
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False Ted Cruz is the largest middle finger to the fedgov. DNC and GOP. Cruz has been fighting the GOP"e" his *entire* professional life. Trump has only gotten on-board the last few months. Of course... Trump was a liberal anti-gun, sanctuary-cities Democrat before that, so you could say he hated the GOP agenda, then too... But for different reasons than he is claiming he hates the GOP now... |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:40:27 PM EDT
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Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point. Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump.
Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump.
What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. No. the Republicans have rolled over and played dead. they have made no deals. they have been steam rolled. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:41:52 PM EDT
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Actions not words. Show me his actions on what he has done. Has he donated any money to fight the NYSAFE Act or any other pro 2A lawsuit/organization? He's admitted to hiring illegals but wants them all out of the country... Unless he needs more employee's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love it! In this thread, we see the classic Trump and Trumpster response...ignore the argument and kill the messenger rather than refute it with facts. Actions not words. Show me his actions on what he has done. Has he donated any money to fight the NYSAFE Act or any other pro 2A lawsuit/organization? He's admitted to hiring illegals but wants them all out of the country... Unless he needs more employee's. Who are we talking about here? Beck or Trump? |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:41:54 PM EDT
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When you put it like that he sounds a lot like the 2012 nominee, except for some reason you loved that version of a progressive GOP nominee???? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Beck is 100% correct. The problem with Trump is not that he sees government as the problem. Trump sees the government as a solution. Trump *is* a socialist. Trump *is* a progressive. Beck is 100% correct. Trump does not get up and say, "Get rid of the size and scope of government. Government is the problem." Trump says, "We need a stronger more-expensive government. We just need the right people in government..." *That* is the definition of progressive. Trump is a socialist. Trump is evil. Trump is the snakeoil salesman... When you put it like that he sounds a lot like the 2012 nominee, except for some reason you loved that version of a progressive GOP nominee???? Wouldn't have anything to do with the Joseph Smith snake cult? Not for nothing, but I find it hard to take seriously someone who believes in the false gospel of a 19'th Century conman and sexual predator... |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:42:41 PM EDT
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Who are we talking about here? Beck or Trump? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love it! In this thread, we see the classic Trump and Trumpster response...ignore the argument and kill the messenger rather than refute it with facts. Actions not words. Show me his actions on what he has done. Has he donated any money to fight the NYSAFE Act or any other pro 2A lawsuit/organization? He's admitted to hiring illegals but wants them all out of the country... Unless he needs more employee's. Who are we talking about here? Beck or Trump? Trump. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:44:32 PM EDT
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You cannot compare the two because Cruz is closer to a Constitutionalist v a Conservative. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol....Beck.says....Cruz says these are my ideals and this is what I stand for like Reagan did.....but just before criticizes Trump for being a deal maker....whatever....why was Reagan great....becausr he made Great Deals....sounds familiar. You cannot compare the two because Cruz is closer to a Constitutionalist v a Conservative. Of course, yet everyone is fawning over this profound stuff Beck just said all the while Beck says the above. It's contradictory. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:45:15 PM EDT
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I love it! In this thread, we see the classic Trump and Trumpster response...ignore the argument and kill the messenger rather than refute it with facts. Actions not words. Show me his actions on what he has done. Has he donated any money to fight the NYSAFE Act or any other pro 2A lawsuit/organization? He's admitted to hiring illegals but wants them all out of the country... Unless he needs more employee's. Who are we talking about here? Beck or Trump? Trump. That's my point. Trump and the Trumpsters can't refute it, because they have nothing to refute it with. They just attack... |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:46:40 PM EDT
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I think everyone who supports trump has subscribed to Alynski's rules for radicals.
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:46:42 PM EDT
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No. the Republicans have rolled over and played dead. they have made no deals. they have been steam rolled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump has been telling his supporters to their face "i will make deals with democrats" yet some how they miss this point. Making deals with democrats is part of the reason they hate the GoP yet they support Trump.
Making deals with democrats is how we got where we are today yet they support Trump.
What do you think is going to happen whenTrump makes his push to repeal obama care with "something" He is on the record saying single payer is good. He is going to sit down with the democrats and say "lets make a deal" and we will end up with something very much like single payer. No. the Republicans have rolled over and played dead. they have made no deals. they have been steam rolled. Ok lets just say you are right. How is making deals with them going to help? Please explain this to me. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:49:12 PM EDT
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Donald Trump has fooled millions. Indeed we are the fools.
And if we have to choose between Hillary and Donald, we will pay the price either way. I suspect it will be a high price. |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:55:22 PM EDT
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The Secret Service visited Beck after he threatened to stab Trump repeatedly if he was near him.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/breaking-secret-service-visits-the-blaze-studios-following-glenn-beck-stabbing-comments/ |
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Posted: 3/5/2016 12:57:33 PM EDT
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I'll vote for Trump if he gets the nomination, but I've yet to hear from him HOW he plans on doing anything. Lots of WHAT, virtually no HOW.
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