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Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:41:09 AM EDT
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Maybe Shoeless Joe but he got cut short for being an absolute moran.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:42:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Mike Trout
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Nolan Ryan
Man can take a punch


You gotta remember he was raised on a farm and also a rancher. He knows how to handle a steer.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:43:55 AM EDT
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Outfield: Ted Williams

Arguably the greatest “pure” hitter who ever lived, Williams accumulated a .344 career average, 521 HRs, won two MVP’s, and was a two-time Triple Crown winner. He was also the last player to hit .400 (.406 in 1941), was a 17-time All-Star, scored 100+ runs nine times, and had 100+ RBI nine times

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Plus took time off to fly fighter jets in 2 wars.  Ted is #1
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:46:38 AM EDT
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The one that gave Jessica Alba herp. Because he fucked Jessica Alba
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 9:58:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Ruth towered over his contemporaries like no one before or since. It’s fun to speculate about cross-era comparisons but they aren’t measurable the way a player’s accomplishments relative to his contemporaries are.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:02:23 AM EDT
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If we're doing players outside of MLB, its Ohtani by a lot
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:03:28 AM EDT
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Actually, wRC+ and OPS+ are how we measure cross-era comparisons. So ... yes, they are measurable
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:07:11 AM EDT
[#9]
Rick Monday
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:09:12 AM EDT
[#10]


The Georgia Peach

As for someone else ..

Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:09:44 AM EDT
[#11]
Henry Rowengartner
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:13:18 AM EDT
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His 3000th MLB hit was a triple...
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:20:50 AM EDT
[#13]
Larry Bird?
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:23:48 AM EDT
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If he did what he’s doing and was on a team that he put on his shoulders and carried to the promised land…
He’s basically the best baseball player in major league history even without proving himself in the postseason but he’s not even the best guy on his team as is.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:24:17 AM EDT
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Lou Gehrig was 10x the player Babe Ruth was, but he was quiet and didn't get as much attention with the simpletons.
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This, how Gehrig is left out of Ops poll is inexcusable, Not to mention Pete Rose.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:27:14 AM EDT
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Josh Gibson was the Negro League's best
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From people who saw him play he is arguably the best ever ,
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:30:21 AM EDT
[#17]
Babe Ruth and it isn’t even close.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:31:12 AM EDT
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Alot of the players were outfielders... Stronger legs...

Who's The Best All-Time at Each Position?

Catcher: Josh Gibson

The so-called “black Babe Ruth” accumulated a lifetime average of .359 according to the Baseball Hall of Fame. His Hall of Fame plaque also states he hit “almost 800” home runs in his 17 year career. The Negro Leagues did not compile complete statistics or game summaries so know one knows his exact career numbers.

Second Team: Johnny Bench

First Base: Lou Gehrig

Gehrig had a lifetime batting average of .340, won two MVP’s, and had 13 straight seasons with 100+ RBI including an American League record 184 in 1931. He was also a seven-time All-Star, won the Triple Crown in 1934, and held the record for most consecutive games played (2,130) for 56 years.

Second Team: Jimmie Foxx

Second Base: Rogers Hornsby

Hornsby has the highest career batting average for a right handed hitter at .358 career, won two MVPs, two Triple Crowns, seven batting titles, and was the first National League player ever to hit 40 HRs in a season in 1922.

Second Team: Eddie Collins

Shortstop: Honus Wagner

Wagner was a part of the first Hall of Fame class in 1936, getting the second most votes behind Ty Cobb and ahead of Babe Ruth. He was a .327 career hitter, won eight batting titles, had 3,415 career hits, and also led the league in stolen bases four times. Wagner was also a great fielder, but gold gloves were not given out when he played.

Third Base: Alex Rodriguez  

Rodriguez has already accumulated 518 HRs and was the quickest to 500 HRs in the history of baseball. He also sports a .306 career average, has won three MVP trophies and a batting title, and has appeared in 10 All-Star games. At the ripe age of 32 he is in the middle of his prime and his numbers will continue to accumulate at a rapid pace.

Second Team: Mike Schmidt

Outfield: Babe Ruth

Ruth is arguably the greatest player ever to play the game of baseball. He had a .342 career average; 714 career HRs; was the first player to hit 30, 40, 50 and 60 HRs in a season; had 13 seasons with 100+ RBI; 12 seasons with 100+ runs scored; and had a lifetime 2.28 ERA as a pitcher.

Second Team: Ty Cobb

Outfield: Willie Mays

Mays is arguably the best all-around player in the history of baseball. He is the prototype of a five-tool player. He was the first player to accumulate 3,000 hits and 500 HRs in his career. He also hit 660 career HRs, won two MVPs, appeared in 24 All-Star games, was an 11-time Gold Glove winner, had 100+ RBI 10 times, scored 100+ runs 12 times, and has a .302 lifetime batting average.  

Second Team: Barry Bonds

Outfield: Ted Williams

Arguably the greatest “pure” hitter who ever lived, Williams accumulated a .344 career average, 521 HRs, won two MVP’s, and was a two-time Triple Crown winner. He was also the last player to hit .400 (.406 in 1941), was a 17-time All-Star, scored 100+ runs nine times, and had 100+ RBI nine times

Designated Hitter: Joe DiMaggio

DiMaggio is a three-time MVP, had a .325 career average, and 361 career HRs. Writer Bill James calculated he lost more HRs due to his home park than any player in history. (Left center was 457 feet at Yankee Stadium.) DiMaggio also had nine seasons with 100+ RBI, struck out only 369 times in 6,821 career at-bats, is a nine-time World Series Champion, lost three years in his prime to the military, and was voted “Greatest Living Player” in a 1969 poll. His record of 56 consecutive games with a hit is arguably the greatest record in all of sports.

Second Team: Mickey Mantle

Right Handed Pitcher: Cy Young

Young is the namesake of the Cy Young Award, an award given to the best pitcher in each league on a yearly basis. He ended his career with 511 wins, 7,354 2/3 innings pitched, started 815 games, and had 749 complete games, which all rank first all-time.

Second Team: Walter Johnson

Left Handed Pitcher: Lefty Grove

Grove finished his career with a record of 300-141. He also has a 3.06 career ERA, 2,266 career strikeouts, two pitching Triple Crowns, one MVP, eight 20-win seasons, one 30-win season, and was a nine-time AL ERA champion.  

Second Team: Sandy Koufax

Relief Pitcher: Mariano Rivera

Rivera has accumulated 443 career saves, a 2.35 career ERA, won a World Series MVP, is the all-time postseason leader in saves and ERA, and is a four-time World Series Champion with the New York Yankees.

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Pretty good list there.  Not sure about your 3rd baseman picks.  Yes Rodriguez could hit but no where near the defensive skills
of Brooks Robinson, who was also a pretty good hitter.  Nolan will take over this title by the end of his career.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:31:19 AM EDT
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Hitter: Ted Williams (disclaimer, I'm a Yankees fan)
Pitcher: Lynn Nolan Ryan
Fielder: Ichiro or Bo Jackson.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:32:14 AM EDT
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Ohtani has had the best two seasons of anyone ever, by far.  Dude can hit, pitch, and run.
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He hasn't been around long enough, but if he is, he's gonna make an impact.

That dude is amazing
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:35:14 AM EDT
[#21]
Bo Jackson
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:35:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:37:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:37:45 AM EDT
[#24]
Carl Yastrzemski

ETA: He was always my hero, anyway. Seeing him play when I was a kid was always exciting.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:39:28 AM EDT
[#25]
It's Ty Cobb, but HTF do you not have Pete Rose as a choice?
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 10:49:24 AM EDT
[#26]
Pete Rose is a cool guy.  Not photoshopped


Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:01:29 AM EDT
[#28]
Honestly there are just too many legends to choose just one...
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:05:47 AM EDT
[#29]
The Georgia Peach was freakin' AWESOME!!!

Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:05:57 AM EDT
[#30]
So many great ones. You are demented for omitting Ted Williams.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:06:05 AM EDT
[#31]
OP said "best player", not best hitter.

The obvious answer is Kirby Puckett.

Or maybe Rickey Henderson but only when he gave a hoot.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:07:37 AM EDT
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Wow, I didn't know that.
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When you factor in that Babe Ruth was one of the best PITCHERS of his Era early in his career,  the question is who is second best.
Wow, I didn't know that.


They stopped him from being a pitcher because the rotation would have reduced his number of At Bats.

Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:16:47 AM EDT
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Too broad.  You have to break it down by position.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:20:23 AM EDT
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This is actually a tough question.  I see many excellent position players listed, but it's hard to say who the best all around play is.

Ryan  best pitcher, but no hitting
Rose  one of the best ever, but not a catcher or pitcher
Ozzie Smith  best short stop to breathe  but wouldn't have an outfielders arm

I don't know man.  Should probably ask who the best at each position are
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:22:33 AM EDT
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Plus took time off to fly fighter jets in 2 wars.  Ted is #1
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Outfield: Ted Williams

Arguably the greatest “pure” hitter who ever lived, Williams accumulated a .344 career average, 521 HRs, won two MVP’s, and was a two-time Triple Crown winner. He was also the last player to hit .400 (.406 in 1941), was a 17-time All-Star, scored 100+ runs nine times, and had 100+ RBI nine times



Plus took time off to fly fighter jets in 2 wars.  Ted is #1

This, 5 prime years
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:23:17 AM EDT
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If I could have any player’s swing, it’d be Larry’s.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:29:16 AM EDT
[#37]
Babe Ruth.

One of the best pitchers of his time..... let alone his ability hit. Even after the Steroid era.... Bath Ruth still holds the highest Slugging Percentage. One time he also came damn close to hitting over .400 at the end of the season.

All on a diet of Beer and Hotdogs.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:42:52 AM EDT
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Eddie Gaedel
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:55:12 AM EDT
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Chipper Jones
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 11:57:50 AM EDT
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Definitely Ted Williams, being a Marine fighter pilot is reason enough but also had he not lost five years he most likely would have had incredible numbers.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:02:05 PM EDT
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Actually, wRC+ and OPS+ are how we measure cross-era comparisons. So ... yes, they are measurable
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Ruth towered over his contemporaries like no one before or since. It’s fun to speculate about cross-era comparisons but they aren’t measurable the way a player’s accomplishments relative to his contemporaries are.

Actually, wRC+ and OPS+ are how we measure cross-era comparisons. So ... yes, they are measurable

I dashed off my post. I meant with respect to arguments that Ruth couldn’t be the best because he was fat, or because he didn’t play against black players, or relief pitchers or night games. We can calculate WAR or OPS+ or whatever, but we can’t measure how Ruth would play today or how Willie Mays would have done in 1922.

Also, OPS+ (or other sabrmetric formulas) is a comparison to a player’s contemporaries. You compare X against the league, then compare the derived numbers to each other.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:10:05 PM EDT
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Hard to compare across eras.  You start getting too far apart and time starts to make a difference.

What do you think todays modern hitters would do to 1910-1930’s pitching?

In pretty much all specialized sports, science and training and diet has led to progression of skill.
Period.  I’m not saying all the old greats wouldn’t still be good today or even all stars, but plunk a modern all star back in the 20’s and the only thing stopping their ascent to the top would be durability/longevity/injury.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:10:48 PM EDT
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 Roberto Clemente
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:12:13 PM EDT
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Top 10 in bWAR (Wins Above Replacement)

1 Babe Ruth * 183.1
2 Walter Johnson * 164.8
3 Cy Young * 163.6
4 Barry Bonds 162.7
5 Willie Mays * 156.1
6 Ty Cobb * 151.5
7 Hank Aaron * 143.1
8 Roger Clemens 139.2
9 Tris Speaker * 134.7
10 Honus Wagner * 130.8

Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:58:23 PM EDT
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Most career walks ever
No perfect games
Never even won a cy young

Link Posted: 10/2/2022 12:59:05 PM EDT
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Needs to be broke down by position to be more subjective. Best hitter though is completely wide open.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 1:03:18 PM EDT
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Most career walks ever
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Um he had multiple no hitters
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 1:06:55 PM EDT
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Here are some of the records that Pete Rose has set:

MAJOR LEAGUE RECORDS

Most Career Hits 4,256
Most Games Played 3,562
Most AB’s 14,053
Most Singles 3,315
Most Total Bases Switch Hitter 5,752
Most Season 200 or more hits 10
Most Season 600 or more AB’s 17
Most Season 150 or more games played 17
Most Winning Games 1,972
5 hits or more in Games 10XS
Only major league Player in History to Play 500 Games at 5 Positions
1B(969) 2B(634) 3B(634) LF(671) RF(595)
Most 20 Games or more hitting streak 7XS
Most Total Times on base 5,929
NATIONAL LEAGUE RECORDS

Most Doubles 746
Longest Consecutive Game Hitting Steak (44 Games) 1978
1963 ROY
1973 NL MVP
1975 WS MVP
17X All star at 5 positions
1B,2B,3B,LF, &RF
3 X NL Batting Champ 1968-1969-1973
All Century Team 1900-2000
4 Hits or More in Games 73 Times
Gold Glove 1969-1970
Most Extra Base Hits by Switch Hitter 1,041
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 1:18:46 PM EDT
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The Kid.  Could hit and defend with the best.   Thought by many to have one of the best swings ever.   Never part of any controversy.  To bad injuries from playing without fear of getting hurt impacted him.
Link Posted: 10/2/2022 1:19:51 PM EDT
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So? His career record was 324-292. On balance Ryan left a lot to be desired from a pitching perspective.

A no-hitter is flashy, but not necessarily all that useful compared to an efficient game.
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