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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:24:42 PM EDT
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So the first petition bans any semi-auto rifle that can hold 10 or more rounds, which includes every detachable magazine rifle built, many tube magazine rimfire rifles, and possibly semi-auto shotguns that can fire Aguila mini-shells. So the nonsensical term "assault weapon" morphs yet again... What is not clear is what happens if somebody travels into Florida with one of these prohibited weapons. Based on the language of the petition, it appears that you can still own a Glock with 33 round magazines, or a "firearm" with high capacity magazines.
The second petition essentially turns Florida into a police state. It strips away the right of self-defense, designates any firearm with a capacity of >7 rounds as a "military-style" weapon, bans "sniper rifles", bans guns that can "in any manner" to be modified into full auto, compels the surrender of these firearms without compensation, and enacts bans for people who are bad drivers. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:30:44 PM EDT
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well, just darn.
I guess the only thing to do now, is to punish all of the republican florida legislature, by pushing to not re-elect any of them, for not passing pro gun constitutional amendments that would have protected gun rights in the past. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:31:19 PM EDT
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I think these might be two separate petitions?
I don't see them going for speeding violations and domestic violence "investigations" nullifying constitutional rights. My congressman isn't that stupid. He wants to violate my human rights in a slightly more deniable way. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:36:32 PM EDT
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So only the police and criminals have guns. Makes sense.
Fucking idiot left. Always. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:37:32 PM EDT
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They want to designate the National Guard and Police as the militia... Lets see what Madison and Mason have to say about that? How are they not in violation of their oaths? |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:42:39 PM EDT
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Why not get 766k votes for a admendmnet to stop any new gun laws?
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:47:38 PM EDT
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Why not get 766k votes for a admendmnet to stop any new gun laws? Knowing Florida, probably all the amendments would pass, leaving the constitution to directly contradict itself. What would happen then? The Hawaii judge would have to suspend the pro-gun amendment indefinitely. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:49:10 PM EDT
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BAWNdo: It's got what Florida craves!
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:50:36 PM EDT
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Will this need 60% approval by the voters rather than 50% ? If so it's probably going to hard for them to get 60% esp with the drastic changes in prohibited persons. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:53:07 PM EDT
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This will not hold up in court as written, they plan on taking your 2a rights if you have had your license suspended for excessive speeding, even CJ Roberts will smack that down. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:54:05 PM EDT
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So the first petition bans any semi-auto rifle that can hold 10 or more rounds, which includes every detachable magazine rifle built, many tube magazine rimfire rifles, and possibly semi-auto shotguns that can fire Aguila mini-shells. So the nonsensical term "assault weapon" morphs yet again... What is not clear is what happens if somebody travels into Florida with one of these prohibited weapons. Based on the language of the petition, it appears that you can still own a Glock with 33 round magazines, or a "firearm" with high capacity magazines. The second petition essentially turns Florida into a police state. It strips away the right of self-defense, designates any firearm with a capacity of >7 rounds as a "military-style" weapon, bans "sniper rifles", bans guns that can "in any manner" to be modified into full auto, compels the surrender of these firearms without compensation, and enacts bans for people who are bad drivers. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:55:18 PM EDT
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I think these might be two separate petitions? I don't see them going for speeding violations and domestic violence "investigations" nullifying constitutional rights. My congressman isn't that stupid. He wants to violate my human rights in a slightly more deniable way. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:56:47 PM EDT
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How'd that work out for MD again? This needs to be paid attention to. I don't live in FL, and at this rate I purposely never will because I value my rights and freedoms. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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fuck em This needs to be paid attention to. I don't live in FL, and at this rate I purposely never will because I value my rights and freedoms. 
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Posted: 11/27/2018 1:58:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup just responded, i think there is hope that this is so badly written and restrictive that it gets slammed in the courts and FAST. even if voted in If your hope is in the courts to slap it down...they might but they might only slap down the prohibited person infringements, and leave the AW ban part alone ? |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:00:05 PM EDT
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Why not get 766k votes for a admendmnet to stop any new gun laws? I realize many gun owners are lazy, but I still think you could get 766k signatures in a state as big as Florida with this much time in front of us. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:00:52 PM EDT
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Both require 60%. Both are separate ballot Petitions. Well 60% is still pretty high bar, they may not pass. I certainly hope so, that shit spreads. This whole nation is going to be under the boot soon. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:01:45 PM EDT
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That is my thoughts. I realize many gun owners are lazy, but I still think you could get 766k signatures in a state as big as Florida with this much time in front of us. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why not get 766k votes for a admendmnet to stop any new gun laws? I realize many gun owners are lazy, but I still think you could get 766k signatures in a state as big as Florida with this much time in front of us. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:02:51 PM EDT
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Crap. Well 60% is still pretty high bar, they may not pass. I certainly hope so, that shit spreads. This whole nation is going to be under the boot soon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Both require 60%. Both are separate ballot Petitions. Well 60% is still pretty high bar, they may not pass. I certainly hope so, that shit spreads. This whole nation is going to be under the boot soon. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:08:25 PM EDT
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Dope is also gaining some serious capital too for their petition.
Regulate Marijuana in a Manner Similar to Alcohol to Establish Age, Licensing, and Other Restrictions Regulates marijuana (hereinafter "cannabis") for limited use and growing by persons twenty-one years of age or older. State shall adopt regulations to issue, renew, suspend, and revoke licenses for cannabis cultivation, product manufacturing, testing and retail facilities. Local governments may regulate facilities' time, place and manner and, if state fails to timely act, may license facilities. Does not affect compassionate use of low-THC cannabis, nor immunize federal law violations. This will get the Leftist vote out in force. Plus the Presidential Election and the fact that felons now have the right to vote. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:10:36 PM EDT
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I would bet money that the commies will get a weed law on the ballot to turn out more leftists.  And of course the GOP is too fucking stupid to see the obvious writing on the wall. They have only seen the effects of these ballot initiatives for almost a decade now......you can't rush into these things. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:14:09 PM EDT
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Why not get 766k votes for a admendmnet to stop any new gun laws? |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:14:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:14:53 PM EDT
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This is going to be a topic on The Legal Brief.
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:18:13 PM EDT
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So would this ban all semi autos? As in pistols as well?
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:23:47 PM EDT
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So would this ban all semi autos? As in pistols as well? |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:29:52 PM EDT
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Floridians that are 2nd Amendment supporters need to get their asses to the polls in 2020.
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:37:30 PM EDT
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Very dangerous to think they aren't a threat. Floridians just passed a Constitutional Amendment to automatically restore convicted felons of their voting rights and that needed over 60% voter approval. This shit is dangerous. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:50:05 PM EDT
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Amend the State Constitution and get an AWB passed. We should also pass a law requiring everyone to serve at least two years in the military as soon as they turn 18 and every household must keep a modern day musket at the ready. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:55:01 PM EDT
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This pas election, all but one of the ballot amendments passed the 60% threshold. This could very well pass. But your odds are much better at 60% than a mere majority. It is not something I'd take lightly, but I think the odds are probably are our favor. But not enough so where we can rest easy or ignore it. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:56:02 PM EDT
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Dope is also gaining some serious capital too for their petition. Regulate Marijuana in a Manner Similar to Alcohol to Establish Age, Licensing, and Other Restrictions Campaign Finance Records - Sensible Florida, Inc. This will get the Leftist vote out in force. Plus the Presidential Election and the fact that felons now have the right to vote. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 2:57:54 PM EDT
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Dope is also gaining some serious capital too for their petition. Regulate Marijuana in a Manner Similar to Alcohol to Establish Age, Licensing, and Other Restrictions Regulates marijuana (hereinafter "cannabis") for limited use and growing by persons twenty-one years of age or older. State shall adopt regulations to issue, renew, suspend, and revoke licenses for cannabis cultivation, product manufacturing, testing and retail facilities. Local governments may regulate facilities' time, place and manner and, if state fails to timely act, may license facilities. Does not affect compassionate use of low-THC cannabis, nor immunize federal law violations. This will get the Leftist vote out in force. Plus the Presidential Election and the fact that felons now have the right to vote. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:00:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If republicans had any fucking sense, they would decriminalize marijuana and take so much wind out of the commie fucks' sails! I've been saying it for years, especially when it comes up on ballot initiatives, that it drives otherwise lazy liberal dipshits (thricely redundant) to the polls. I know they're all in one giant circle jerk together but republicans always seem to try and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Its just a game, and we end up losing. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:00:57 PM EDT
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Has Marion Hammer written a sternly worded letter yet? |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:01:53 PM EDT
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you just have to threaten all the republicans that you will punish them, by getting them voted out of office for not supporting any pro gun legislation. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:02:03 PM EDT
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I would bet money that the commies will get a weed law on the ballot to turn out more leftists. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:04:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, most states allow felons to vote after they are out of the system. So welcome to America, Florida. Your logic. I am afraid of what you will do with your right to vote. Their logic. I am afraid of what you will do with your right to bear arms. No logic. ETA: You are the one that brought the issue up. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:07:44 PM EDT
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Will this need 60% approval by the voters rather than 50% ? If so it's probably going to hard for them to get 60% esp with the drastic changes in prohibited persons. We are going to have to follow this closely, scream very loud, make as much noise as possible, and start a fire under gun owners here. I think it reaches too far and it may be a saving grace. Hoping they choose not to have the measure submitted for a vote like last time, and if it does the 3 Fl. supreme justices Desantis will seat can handle this properly if it reaches the courts. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:21:34 PM EDT
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well, just darn. I guess the only thing to do now, is to punish all of the republican florida legislature, by pushing to not re-elect any of them, for not passing pro gun constitutional amendments that would have protected gun rights in the past. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:23:18 PM EDT
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Floridians that are 2nd Amendment supporters need to get their asses to the polls in 2020. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:23:21 PM EDT
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fuck em |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:27:37 PM EDT
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Very dangerous to think they aren't a threat. Floridians just passed a Constitutional Amendment to automatically restore convicted felons of their voting rights and that needed over 60% voter approval. This shit is dangerous. Rick Scott. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:33:53 PM EDT
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That amendment is so poorly written the writers should be ashamed. They are literally begging to be subjugated.
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:34:52 PM EDT
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Rick Scott made a clear, straightforward procedure for reinstatement of rights to being a cluster fuck because of his ego and petty fiefdom rule. That in turn gave the Left the fuel needed for the fire that was this last election. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:36:38 PM EDT
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He is the gift that keeps on giving. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rick Scott made a clear, straightforward procedure for reinstatement of rights to being a cluster fuck because of his ego and petty fiefdom rule. That in turn gave the Left the fuel needed for the fire that was this last election. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:37:07 PM EDT
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So the first petition bans any semi-auto rifle that can hold 10 or more rounds, which includes every detachable magazine rifle built, many tube magazine rimfire rifles, and possibly semi-auto shotguns that can fire Aguila mini-shells. So the nonsensical term "assault weapon" morphs yet again... What is not clear is what happens if somebody travels into Florida with one of these prohibited weapons. Based on the language of the petition, it appears that you can still own a Glock with 33 round magazines, or a "firearm" with high capacity magazines. The second petition essentially turns Florida into a police state. It strips away the right of self-defense, designates any firearm with a capacity of >7 rounds as a "military-style" weapon, bans "sniper rifles", bans guns that can "in any manner" to be modified into full auto, compels the surrender of these firearms without compensation, and enacts bans for people who are bad drivers. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:38:27 PM EDT
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Another day in the Republican Party of Florida. THIS. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:42:45 PM EDT
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Floridians that are 2nd Amendment supporters need to get their asses to the polls in 2020. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:43:26 PM EDT
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Does Florida have a meaningful state-level gun rights group? Any hope of organizing a counter petition to affirm gun rights?
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:44:58 PM EDT
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We always had a system where felons can get their rights back, but to took a conscience effort to get it done. Now al th4 Democrats have to do it buss em to the polls and give them $100 with no effort on their part. It would be money well spent by them to buss as many as they can to the polls and pay them to vote. |
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Posted: 11/27/2018 3:45:45 PM EDT
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As much as I hate the anti gun amendment, it might be what is needed to get people to the polls in 2020. |
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