Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
User Panel

Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Posted: 2/18/2023 1:05:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:09:35 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm no fan of Kimber (had a Series 1 in the 90s but that's it) but I get his point. There should be respect for the flag and people should follow the flag code.

Hanging 4 flags off your boat or car that are tattered and covered in diesel doesn't follow the code. It's just another attempt at Virtue Signaling. The types that have a truck bed filled with Chinese shit they just bought at Wal Mart or Harbor Freight but drive around with flags flying making sure everyone knows they're patriotic.

Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:11:51 PM EDT
[#2]
So, flying the flag is a symbol of hatred? Duly noted.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:12:05 PM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:14:38 PM EDT
[#4]
He can suck on this:

Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:14:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
So, flying the flag is a symbol of hatred? Duly noted.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
So, flying the flag is a symbol of hatred? Duly noted.


He's talking about the flag code.

Rules we used to follow.


United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1.

§1. Flag; stripes and stars on

The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be fifty stars representing the fifty states, white in a blue field

§2. Same; additional stars

On the admission of a new State into the Union one star shall be added to the union of the flag; and such addition shall take effect on the fourth day of July then next succeeding such admission

§3. Use of flag for advertising purposes; mutilation of flag

Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached, appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; or who, within the District of Columbia, shall manufacture, sell, expose for sale, or to public view, or give away or have in possession for sale, or to be given away or for use for any purpose, any article or substance being an article of merchandise, or a receptacle for merchandise or article or thing for carrying or transporting merchandise, upon which shall have been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign, to advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both, in the discretion of the court. The words "flag, standard, colors, or ensign", as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

§4. Pledge of allegiance to the flag; manner of delivery

The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.", should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute.

§5. Display and use of flag by civilians; codification of rules and customs; definition

The following codification of existing rules and customs pertaining to the display and use of the flag of the United States of America be, and it is hereby, established for the use of such civilians or civilian groups or organizations as may not be required to conform with regulations promulgated by one or more executive departments of the Government of the United States. The flag of the United States for the purpose of this chapter shall be defined according to title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1, Section 1 and Section 2 and Executive Order 10834 issued pursuant thereto.

§6. Time and occasions for display

   It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.
   The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously.
   The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except when an all-weather flag is displayed.
   The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on
       New Year's Day, January 1
       Inauguration Day, January 20
       Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday, third Monday in January
       Lincoln's Birthday, February 12
       Washington's Birthday, third Monday in February
       Easter Sunday (variable)
       Mother's Day, second Sunday in May
       Armed Forces Day, third Saturday in May
       Memorial Day (half-staff until noon), the last Monday in May
       Flag Day, June 14
       Father's Day, third Sunday in June
       Independence Day, July 4
       Labor Day, first Monday in September
       Constitution Day, September 17
       Columbus Day, second Monday in October
       Navy Day, October 27
       Veterans Day, November 11
       Thanksgiving Day, fourth Thursday in November
       Christmas Day, December 25
       and such other days as may be proclaimed by the President of the United States
       the birthdays of States (date of admission)
       and on State holidays.
   The flag should be displayed daily on or near the main administration building of every public institution.
   The flag should be displayed in or near every polling place on election days.
   The flag should be displayed during school days in or near every schoolhouse.

§7. Position and manner of display

The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line.

   The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this section.
   The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
   No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.
   The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.
   The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.
   When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag's right.
   When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.
   When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building.
   When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.
   When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.
   When used on a speaker's platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman's or speaker's right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience.
   The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument.
   The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, or the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia and members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection —
       the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
       the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and
       the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico.
   When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground.
   When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer's left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east.

§8. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

   The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
   The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
   The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
   The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
   The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
   The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
   The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
   The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
   The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
   No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
   The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning

§9. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag

During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present in uniform should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of other countries present should stand at attention. All such conduct toward the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.

§10. Modification of rules and customs by President

Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:15:20 PM EDT
[#6]
Why folks feel the need to go yap their opinion on the internet. I’m glad I don’t do that.

Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:15:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Busse with the juicy bussy
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:16:02 PM EDT
[#8]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Ryan is a former Kimber employee who is now big in the anti gun industry. He claims flags are "intimidating"
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm no fan of Kimber (had a Series 1 in the 90s but that's it) but I get his point. There should be respect for the flag and people should follow the flag code.

Hanging 4 flags off your boat or car that are tattered and covered in diesel doesn't follow the code. It's just another attempt at Virtue Signaling. The types that have a truck bed filled with Chinese shit they just bought at Wal Mart at Harbor Freight but drive around with flags flying making sure everyone knows they're patriotic.

Ryan is a former Kimber employee who is now big in the anti gun industry. He claims flags are "intimidating"


Sorry, I don't keep up with up with industry drama. Feel gun people can turn on just about anyone in the industry. Just got tiring and decided ignorance is bliss.

Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:17:57 PM EDT
[#9]
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:18:33 PM EDT
[#10]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
I'm no fan of Kimber (had a Series 1 in the 90s but that's it) but I get his point. There should be respect for the flag and people should follow the flag code.

Hanging 4 flags off your boat or car that are tattered and covered in diesel doesn't follow the code. It's just another attempt at Virtue Signaling. The types that have a truck bed filled with Chinese shit they just bought at Wal Mart or Harbor Freight but drive around with flags flying making sure everyone knows they're patriotic.

View Quote

What about the intimidating those you hate part? Who's supposed to be intimidated by it? America hating communists?
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:21:29 PM EDT
[#11]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


He's talking about the flag code.

Rules we used to follow.


View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
So, flying the flag is a symbol of hatred? Duly noted.


He's talking about the flag code.

Rules we used to follow.


United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1.

1. Flag; stripes and stars on

The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be fifty stars representing the fifty states, white in a blue field

2. Same; additional stars

On the admission of a new State into the Union one star shall be added to the union of the flag; and such addition shall take effect on the fourth day of July then next succeeding such admission

3. Use of flag for advertising purposes; mutilation of flag

Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached, appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; or who, within the District of Columbia, shall manufacture, sell, expose for sale, or to public view, or give away or have in possession for sale, or to be given away or for use for any purpose, any article or substance being an article of merchandise, or a receptacle for merchandise or article or thing for carrying or transporting merchandise, upon which shall have been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign, to advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both, in the discretion of the court. The words "flag, standard, colors, or ensign", as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

4. Pledge of allegiance to the flag; manner of delivery

The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.", should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute.

5. Display and use of flag by civilians; codification of rules and customs; definition

The following codification of existing rules and customs pertaining to the display and use of the flag of the United States of America be, and it is hereby, established for the use of such civilians or civilian groups or organizations as may not be required to conform with regulations promulgated by one or more executive departments of the Government of the United States. The flag of the United States for the purpose of this chapter shall be defined according to title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1, Section 1 and Section 2 and Executive Order 10834 issued pursuant thereto.

6. Time and occasions for display

   It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.
   The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously.
   The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except when an all-weather flag is displayed.
   The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on
       New Year's Day, January 1
       Inauguration Day, January 20
       Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday, third Monday in January
       Lincoln's Birthday, February 12
       Washington's Birthday, third Monday in February
       Easter Sunday (variable)
       Mother's Day, second Sunday in May
       Armed Forces Day, third Saturday in May
       Memorial Day (half-staff until noon), the last Monday in May
       Flag Day, June 14
       Father's Day, third Sunday in June
       Independence Day, July 4
       Labor Day, first Monday in September
       Constitution Day, September 17
       Columbus Day, second Monday in October
       Navy Day, October 27
       Veterans Day, November 11
       Thanksgiving Day, fourth Thursday in November
       Christmas Day, December 25
       and such other days as may be proclaimed by the President of the United States
       the birthdays of States (date of admission)
       and on State holidays.
   The flag should be displayed daily on or near the main administration building of every public institution.
   The flag should be displayed in or near every polling place on election days.
   The flag should be displayed during school days in or near every schoolhouse.

7. Position and manner of display

The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line.

   The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this section.
   The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
   No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.
   The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.
   The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.
   When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag's right.
   When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.
   When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building.
   When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.
   When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.
   When used on a speaker's platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman's or speaker's right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience.
   The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument.
   The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, or the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia and members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection  
       the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
       the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and
       the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico.
   When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground.
   When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer's left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east.

8. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

   The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
   The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
   The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
   The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
   The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
   The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
   The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
   The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
   The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
   No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
   The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning

9. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag

During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present in uniform should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of other countries present should stand at attention. All such conduct toward the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.

10. Modification of rules and customs by President

Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation.


He explicitly references it as a way to "intimidate those they hate" thus leaning into the lefty talking points where it's the new confederate flag.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:22:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:26:38 PM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:26:47 PM EDT
[#14]

Guy walks w/ BLM if I recall correctly yet posts that ,   even uses the word "flex " to show how in the know he is .   Why do I dislike this person so much  ?,  he has to show what side he is on .
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:28:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:30:51 PM EDT
[#16]
He's a cunt.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:36:59 PM EDT
[#17]
A tattered flag needs to be replaced.

We had one building in SF that flew an 11 striped flag.  Not a protest.  Two stripes tore off and the maintenance people DGAF.  Finally City Hall sent over a new flag with instructions to replace the 11 stripe one.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:40:46 PM EDT
[#18]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
I'm no fan of Kimber (had a Series 1 in the 90s but that's it) but I get his point. There should be respect for the flag and people should follow the flag code.

Hanging 4 flags off your boat or car that are tattered and covered in diesel doesn't follow the code. It's just another attempt at Virtue Signaling. The types that have a truck bed filled with Chinese shit they just bought at Wal Mart or Harbor Freight but drive around with flags flying making sure everyone knows they're patriotic.

View Quote

Look, more forum sliders now with more moral equivalency included!
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:45:27 PM EDT
[#19]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
So, flying the flag is a symbol of hatred? Duly noted.
View Quote

Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:46:26 PM EDT
[#20]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

Look, more forum sliders now with more moral equivalency included!
View Quote

Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:47:11 PM EDT
[#21]
Fuk what that dome-head phaggot says.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 1:52:06 PM EDT
[#22]
what kinda pussywagon is "intimidated" by their own flag..?
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:10:09 PM EDT
[#23]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


Sorry, I don't keep up with up with industry drama. Feel gun people can turn on just about anyone in the industry. Just got tiring and decided ignorance is bliss.

View Quote



Should change your username to Ignorance0311 in that case, or understand what is going on before posting.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:12:13 PM EDT
[#24]
His last name is bussy. I can't make anymore fun of him than god already did.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:15:46 PM EDT
[#25]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


He's talking about the flag code.

Rules we used to follow.


View Quote
In other words, treat a piece of cloth as if a holy idol, then claim we don't worship idols.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:17:27 PM EDT
[#26]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

Look, more forum sliders now with more moral equivalency included!
View Quote



Imagine my shock
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:20:13 PM EDT
[#27]
The grift that keeps on giving.

It is deeply satisfying on a karmic level that his surname is what some gay dudes call their buttholes.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:20:57 PM EDT
[#28]
Fuck that POS.

Seek outside (maker of lightweight hunting backpacks and tents) gave that fucker air time on their podcast not too long ago.

I won’t buy anything from them anymore except for used stuff.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:33:30 PM EDT
[#30]
His last name sounds like where he likes to get fucked
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:35:18 PM EDT
[#31]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


He explicitly references it as a way to "intimidate those they hate" thus leaning into the lefty talking points where it's the new confederate flag.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So, flying the flag is a symbol of hatred? Duly noted.


He's talking about the flag code.

Rules we used to follow.


United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1.

1. Flag; stripes and stars on

The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be fifty stars representing the fifty states, white in a blue field

2. Same; additional stars

On the admission of a new State into the Union one star shall be added to the union of the flag; and such addition shall take effect on the fourth day of July then next succeeding such admission

3. Use of flag for advertising purposes; mutilation of flag

Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached, appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; or who, within the District of Columbia, shall manufacture, sell, expose for sale, or to public view, or give away or have in possession for sale, or to be given away or for use for any purpose, any article or substance being an article of merchandise, or a receptacle for merchandise or article or thing for carrying or transporting merchandise, upon which shall have been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign, to advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both, in the discretion of the court. The words "flag, standard, colors, or ensign", as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

4. Pledge of allegiance to the flag; manner of delivery

The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.", should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute.

5. Display and use of flag by civilians; codification of rules and customs; definition

The following codification of existing rules and customs pertaining to the display and use of the flag of the United States of America be, and it is hereby, established for the use of such civilians or civilian groups or organizations as may not be required to conform with regulations promulgated by one or more executive departments of the Government of the United States. The flag of the United States for the purpose of this chapter shall be defined according to title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1, Section 1 and Section 2 and Executive Order 10834 issued pursuant thereto.

6. Time and occasions for display

   It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.
   The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously.
   The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except when an all-weather flag is displayed.
   The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on
       New Year's Day, January 1
       Inauguration Day, January 20
       Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday, third Monday in January
       Lincoln's Birthday, February 12
       Washington's Birthday, third Monday in February
       Easter Sunday (variable)
       Mother's Day, second Sunday in May
       Armed Forces Day, third Saturday in May
       Memorial Day (half-staff until noon), the last Monday in May
       Flag Day, June 14
       Father's Day, third Sunday in June
       Independence Day, July 4
       Labor Day, first Monday in September
       Constitution Day, September 17
       Columbus Day, second Monday in October
       Navy Day, October 27
       Veterans Day, November 11
       Thanksgiving Day, fourth Thursday in November
       Christmas Day, December 25
       and such other days as may be proclaimed by the President of the United States
       the birthdays of States (date of admission)
       and on State holidays.
   The flag should be displayed daily on or near the main administration building of every public institution.
   The flag should be displayed in or near every polling place on election days.
   The flag should be displayed during school days in or near every schoolhouse.

7. Position and manner of display

The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line.

   The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this section.
   The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
   No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.
   The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.
   The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.
   When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag's right.
   When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.
   When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building.
   When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.
   When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.
   When used on a speaker's platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman's or speaker's right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience.
   The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument.
   The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, or the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia and members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection  
       the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
       the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and
       the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico.
   When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground.
   When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer's left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east.

8. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

   The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
   The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
   The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
   The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
   The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
   The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
   The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
   The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
   The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
   No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
   The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning

9. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag

During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present in uniform should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of other countries present should stand at attention. All such conduct toward the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.

10. Modification of rules and customs by President

Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation.


He explicitly references it as a way to "intimidate those they hate" thus leaning into the lefty talking points where it's the new confederate flag.

Are the Gasden and pine tree flags extra hateful?
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:41:04 PM EDT
[#32]
The coolest use of the American Flag was when Kamala was out campaigning for vice dictator and her bus was driving down some highway surrounded by jacked up Bro-Dozers all flying huge American and Trump Flags.  Just like an armed escort of US fighter jets pushing Russian bombers out of US airspace.  It was fucking awesome.  Of course, the MSM went nuts and Harris wanted criminal charges.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:47:41 PM EDT
[#33]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

Look, more forum sliders now with more moral equivalency included!
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm no fan of Kimber (had a Series 1 in the 90s but that's it) but I get his point. There should be respect for the flag and people should follow the flag code.

Hanging 4 flags off your boat or car that are tattered and covered in diesel doesn't follow the code. It's just another attempt at Virtue Signaling. The types that have a truck bed filled with Chinese shit they just bought at Wal Mart or Harbor Freight but drive around with flags flying making sure everyone knows they're patriotic.


Look, more forum sliders now with more moral equivalency included!


Quoted:
Quoted:

Look, more forum sliders now with more moral equivalency included!



Quoted:
Quoted:


Sorry, I don't keep up with up with industry drama. Feel gun people can turn on just about anyone in the industry. Just got tiring and decided ignorance is bliss.




Should change your username to Ignorance0311 in that case, or understand what is going on before posting.



Do all of you guys go personal when losing an argument?

How about arguing what I say and not personally insulting me?

I don't virtue signal with 4 flags on my car telling the world how patriotic I am. I've served my country but don't have to preach to everyone that I'm patriotic. Again, the same types that have a back seat stuffed with Chinese shit from Walmart and Harbor Freight and their flags say Made in China. These people just remind me of Crossfit or Vegan types that have to tell everyone how virtuous they are.  Sorry if that offends. But again, I'm not personally attacking anyone here. If my comments bother you, that's your own insecurities on display.






Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:56:36 PM EDT
[#34]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Do all of you guys go personal when losing an argument?

How about arguing what I say and not personally insulting me?

I don't virtue signal with 4 flags on my car telling the world how patriotic I am. I've served my country but don't have to preach to everyone that I'm patriotic. Again, the same types that have a back seat stuffed with Chinese shit from Walmart and Harbor Freight and their flags say Made in China. These types just remind me of Crossfit or Vegan types that have to tell everyone how virtuous they are.  Sorry if that offends. But again, I'm not personally attacking anyone here. If my comments bother you, that's your own insecurities on display.






View Quote


I don’t have any giant flags flying on my truck either…

But insinuating that someone who does is racist or trying to intimidate people is a bit much don’t ya think?

The fact your first instinct was to defend what this leftist douche is saying is telling to a lot of us. Maybe that’s an incorrect inference, but I’d bet our gut was right.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 2:59:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


I don’t have any giant flags flying on my truck either…

But insinuating that someone who does is racist or trying to intimidate people is a bit much don’t ya think?

The fact your first instinct was to defend what this leftist douche is saying is telling to a lot of us. Maybe that’s an incorrect inference, but I’d bet our gut was right.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:


Better watch out. He’s “winning” with his arguments




Do all of you guys go personal when losing an argument?

How about arguing what I say and not personally insulting me?

I don't virtue signal with 4 flags on my car telling the world how patriotic I am. I've served my country but don't have to preach to everyone that I'm patriotic. Again, the same types that have a back seat stuffed with Chinese shit from Walmart and Harbor Freight and their flags say Made in China. These types just remind me of Crossfit or Vegan types that have to tell everyone how virtuous they are.  Sorry if that offends. But again, I'm not personally attacking anyone here. If my comments bother you, that's your own insecurities on display.








I don’t have any giant flags flying on my truck either…

But insinuating that someone who does is racist or trying to intimidate people is a bit much don’t ya think?

The fact your first instinct was to defend what this leftist douche is saying is telling to a lot of us. Maybe that’s an incorrect inference, but I’d bet our gut was right.

Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:02:23 PM EDT
[#36]
He probably likes a big black dick sliding up in his ass
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:02:24 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So, flying the flag is a symbol of hatred? Duly noted.
View Quote

He's talking about the flag code.
View Quote
No he isn't. Did you even read his post?
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:04:46 PM EDT
[#38]
corporations plaster their logos all over our towns and buildings the true flag of our countries current status.

a truck carrying a flag of what was once was possible should be celebrated.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:08:36 PM EDT
[#39]
I had forgotten about that episode - is was in fact - awesome.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:15:39 PM EDT
[#40]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Ryan is a former Kimber employee who is now big in the anti gun industry. He claims flags are "intimidating"
View Quote

Anyone claiming that hates the 1st Amendment.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:22:21 PM EDT
[#41]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

Are the Gasden and pine tree flags extra hateful?
View Quote


The gadsden flag represent anarchocapitalfascism and forced starvation of African Americans.

The pine tree flag is basically just a euphemism for "gt*rwn".
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:29:18 PM EDT
[#42]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
If he feels hate, it's probably because he did something to justify it.

Mr. Busse, we know what you are.  I am just trying to decide if Judas or whore is a more appropriate label.
View Quote

Bingo! Like a girlfriend accusing you of xheating out of nowhere.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:30:49 PM EDT
[#43]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
A tattered flag needs to be replaced.

We had one building in SF that flew an 11 striped flag.  Not a protest.  Two stripes tore off and the maintenance people DGAF.  Finally City Hall sent over a new flag with instructions to replace the 11 stripe one.
View Quote

He is correct about that point. But that isnt what is on trial here. We're more concerned about the "us flag is intimidating" part.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:34:42 PM EDT
[#44]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

Are the Gasden and pine tree flags extra hateful?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
So, flying the flag is a symbol of hatred? Duly noted.


He's talking about the flag code.

Rules we used to follow.


United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1.

1. Flag; stripes and stars on

The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be fifty stars representing the fifty states, white in a blue field

2. Same; additional stars

On the admission of a new State into the Union one star shall be added to the union of the flag; and such addition shall take effect on the fourth day of July then next succeeding such admission

3. Use of flag for advertising purposes; mutilation of flag

Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached, appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; or who, within the District of Columbia, shall manufacture, sell, expose for sale, or to public view, or give away or have in possession for sale, or to be given away or for use for any purpose, any article or substance being an article of merchandise, or a receptacle for merchandise or article or thing for carrying or transporting merchandise, upon which shall have been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign, to advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both, in the discretion of the court. The words "flag, standard, colors, or ensign", as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

4. Pledge of allegiance to the flag; manner of delivery

The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.", should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute.

5. Display and use of flag by civilians; codification of rules and customs; definition

The following codification of existing rules and customs pertaining to the display and use of the flag of the United States of America be, and it is hereby, established for the use of such civilians or civilian groups or organizations as may not be required to conform with regulations promulgated by one or more executive departments of the Government of the United States. The flag of the United States for the purpose of this chapter shall be defined according to title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1, Section 1 and Section 2 and Executive Order 10834 issued pursuant thereto.

6. Time and occasions for display

   It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.
   The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously.
   The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except when an all-weather flag is displayed.
   The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on
       New Year's Day, January 1
       Inauguration Day, January 20
       Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday, third Monday in January
       Lincoln's Birthday, February 12
       Washington's Birthday, third Monday in February
       Easter Sunday (variable)
       Mother's Day, second Sunday in May
       Armed Forces Day, third Saturday in May
       Memorial Day (half-staff until noon), the last Monday in May
       Flag Day, June 14
       Father's Day, third Sunday in June
       Independence Day, July 4
       Labor Day, first Monday in September
       Constitution Day, September 17
       Columbus Day, second Monday in October
       Navy Day, October 27
       Veterans Day, November 11
       Thanksgiving Day, fourth Thursday in November
       Christmas Day, December 25
       and such other days as may be proclaimed by the President of the United States
       the birthdays of States (date of admission)
       and on State holidays.
   The flag should be displayed daily on or near the main administration building of every public institution.
   The flag should be displayed in or near every polling place on election days.
   The flag should be displayed during school days in or near every schoolhouse.

7. Position and manner of display

The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line.

   The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this section.
   The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
   No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.
   The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.
   The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.
   When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag's right.
   When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.
   When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building.
   When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.
   When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.
   When used on a speaker's platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman's or speaker's right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience.
   The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument.
   The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, or the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia and members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection  
       the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
       the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and
       the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico.
   When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground.
   When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer's left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east.

8. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

   The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
   The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
   The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
   The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
   The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
   The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
   The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
   The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
   The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
   No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
   The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning

9. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag

During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present in uniform should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of other countries present should stand at attention. All such conduct toward the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.

10. Modification of rules and customs by President

Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation.


He explicitly references it as a way to "intimidate those they hate" thus leaning into the lefty talking points where it's the new confederate flag.

Are the Gasden and pine tree flags extra hateful?

Any and all Ring-wing symbols are inherently symbols of hate to the left.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:52:41 PM EDT
[#47]
He raised his rate to $350 an hour. Banning guns and defending gun ban legal challenges pays well.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 3:53:37 PM EDT
[#48]
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 4:01:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Ryan is a former Kimber employee who is now big in the anti gun industry. He claims flags are "intimidating"
View Quote


Yeah, listen, about that?

He needs to eat shit and die.
Link Posted: 2/18/2023 4:03:48 PM EDT
[#50]
He talks like a fag and his shit’s all retarded.
Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Close Join Our Mail List to Stay Up To Date! Win a FREE Membership!

Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!

You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.


By signing up you agree to our User Agreement. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win.
Top Top