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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:00:12 PM EST
[#1]
Buy guns you can carry with you. Carry them.
Or rent a nicer place. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:02:20 PM EST
[#2]
I mean I cant take my guns everywhere. Especially on campus.
Renting a nicer place is out of the question at the moment. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:04:22 PM EST
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I am in college and I live in a old house, first floor, by campus. Lets just say that crime isn't awful but isn't great either in the area. Keep them at your parents house in a hopefully safer neighborhood/situation? first floor + no safe bolt-down + near campus = no way I'd sign up for keeping much of value in that venue. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:06:47 PM EST
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Ive tossed the idea of moving most of it to another location but i would like to at least keep one of my Ar's and handguns at the house. Is just hiding them enough or what?
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:07:38 PM EST
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I would rather have a safe that's not bolted down than nothing. Mine is not bolted down, empty it weighs 400 lbs or so, yeah it could be taken out with a dolly but it's better than keeping them under the bed or stashed in a closet. Get a safe.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:07:46 PM EST
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Approximately how many guns?
I have seen some real nice hidden compartment furniture like coffee tables or book shelves. It can pretty expensive though. And they're still not locked up, just hidden. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:08:25 PM EST
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keep them all but your carry gun at your parents
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:09:06 PM EST
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Keep them at your parents house in a hopefully safer neighborhood/situation? first floor + no safe bolt-down + near campus = no way I'd sign up for keeping much of value in that venue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am in college and I live in a old house, first floor, by campus. Lets just say that crime isn't awful but isn't great either in the area. Keep them at your parents house in a hopefully safer neighborhood/situation? first floor + no safe bolt-down + near campus = no way I'd sign up for keeping much of value in that venue. +1 |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:09:52 PM EST
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Modular safe. Easier to move around.
Sure bolting is more secure and a safe could be stolen. But it's way worth it to have one anyways. They aren't all prepared to haul away or break into a safe. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:10:16 PM EST
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I would rather have a safe that's not bolted down than nothing. Mine is not bolted down, empty it weighs 400 lbs or so, yeah it could be taken out with a dolly but it's better than keeping them under the bed or stashed in a closet. Get a safe. I think the bigger issue is with a large safe not being bolted down isn't so much it being carried out as is the possibility of it getting pushed onto its back side which make prying at it much easier. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:10:31 PM EST
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you could go with a larger but still not terribly heavy safe (look and see how hard it would be for you to take the door of to move it possibly)
then, when its in place, load the bottom down with some heavy weight (you do have some brass and lead you can put down there, right?) also, look into a good insurance policy. keep quiet about what you have and be sure you've got whatever documentation you need in case insurance is needed |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:10:41 PM EST
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I just had to move a lot of them to my house as where i was keeping them didn't want them in the house anymore. I have 12 here ATM but i should be able to move them to a trusted secure location but I want a AR, mags, ammo and Handgun by me at all times at least. I'm a little paranoid or prepared. take your pick.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:11:12 PM EST
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Stop growing your gun collection until you can properly house it.
If you must, bolt it to the wall...then go to YouTube to learn how to patch a wall. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:13:45 PM EST
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Stop growing your gun collection until you can properly house it. If you must, bolt it to the wall...then go to YouTube to learn how to patch a wall. I never expected to have them all here. It was a unforeseen event, so now im worrying about it every night. Trust me, Safe is number 1 goal right now. I can properly patch a wall BTW but my landlord frequently checks the apartment. She wouldn't be to happy about that. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:15:38 PM EST
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If you have one of those tiny little closets with the bi-fold doors, you can hang them on the interior wall above your head. Not many people would think to stick their head in and look up and back. Hidden in plain sight, that's what I did for a while
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:16:45 PM EST
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I would run it by your landlord, tell her you will patch the holes when you leave.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:16:52 PM EST
[#17]
OP isn't in college or own a single firearm.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:20:19 PM EST
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I would run it by your landlord, tell her you will patch the holes when you leave. Tried it. She said it was a no go. Im kind screwed when it comes to bolting it down. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:20:51 PM EST
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OP isn't in college or own a single firearm. Thanks for the help!!! |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:22:08 PM EST
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get a safe, and keep it in a back room out of sight from a casual visitor
also no nra magazines, parts ,shells etc in plain view. when going to the range, disguise your rifles/cases with a blankets when going to and from the truck. keep your mouth shut and don't trust your neighbors, smile ,wave and be polite but don't trust them. think layers |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:24:27 PM EST
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Maybe there's a "safe" type store where you can leave your guns. I know my buddy stashes some things of his at a store that you basically rent a safe and they don't question anything you put in there. They don't even require a name for you to sign up.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:26:18 PM EST
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I never expected to have them all here. It was a unforeseen event, so now im worrying about it every night. Trust me, Safe is number 1 goal right now. I can properly patch a wall BTW but my landlord frequently checks the apartment. She wouldn't be to happy about that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stop growing your gun collection until you can properly house it. If you must, bolt it to the wall...then go to YouTube to learn how to patch a wall. I never expected to have them all here. It was a unforeseen event, so now im worrying about it every night. Trust me, Safe is number 1 goal right now. I can properly patch a wall BTW but my landlord frequently checks the apartment. She wouldn't be to happy about that. Do you think she would frown upon a gun safe, or a gun safe bolted down? How would she know it was bolted, do you think she would try to rock it? ETA: I see you've already talked to her about this. If she sees a safe, she's going to rock it... |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:26:47 PM EST
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I hid mine in my box spring.. I cut the fabric toward the front corner nearest the wall, to about a third of the fabric.. Placed them in the slats, zip tied them down, and stitched it back up. I had a shooter or two that I kept out and that's all my friend knew about.
I felt better, and even though I never got broken into, I did feel safer for a while until I moved.. My theory was, a snatch and grab might lift the first mattress, which I kept 100 bucks, a nicer knife and a cheap ring, for him to get in the hopes he would move on. Hide 200 bucks worth of stuff which you would be hella ok with losing, but not too hidden he can't find it, so he/they will score something and not look anymore.. Think like a crook of you will.. Unless you show your shit off, then I can't help you. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:27:44 PM EST
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Stop growing your gun collection until you can properly house it. If you must, bolt it to the wall...then go to YouTube to learn how to patch a wall. THIS! Patching a few holes in drywall is a piece of cake! You can also drill into a floor with carpet if you know what you are doing. Get a piece of copper tubing a little larger that the drill bit. Work it into the carpet until you hit the flooring( helps to make a small slit). Then, just drill the hole through tubing! When you remove the safe, just rub over the hole and the carpet will cover it back up! |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:27:49 PM EST
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Do you think she would frown upon a gun safe, or a gun safe bolted down? How would she know it was bolted, do you think she would try to rock it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stop growing your gun collection until you can properly house it. If you must, bolt it to the wall...then go to YouTube to learn how to patch a wall. I never expected to have them all here. It was a unforeseen event, so now im worrying about it every night. Trust me, Safe is number 1 goal right now. I can properly patch a wall BTW but my landlord frequently checks the apartment. She wouldn't be to happy about that. Do you think she would frown upon a gun safe, or a gun safe bolted down? How would she know it was bolted, do you think she would try to rock it? Not sure. I just don't want to pay security deposit which is the same cost of a nice safe. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:28:23 PM EST
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Keep AR and handgun at most, hide the AR real good if you must have it there as well. Stayed in an apt 2 years of college, no roommates I'll add, and did just this. Pistol was easily hidden, Tantal in a tennis racket case(along with some desiccant) and under the bed. No way in heck I'd lug a legitimate safe to a temporary dwelling bearing in mind foot traffic while you're moving it in, and folks visiting your residence. Also might add, probably not a bad idea to separate the upper from the lower so far as the rifle goes. My .02
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:29:03 PM EST
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Alot of good ideas. How do yall feel about a job box disguised as a trunk for a safe? I feel like I could probably do it in a weekend.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:30:27 PM EST
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even just improvising your own, by buying a vent cover and adding it to a sensible location, to put a rifle in the wall. (make sure it's an interior wall to your apartment, so your neighbor doesn't find a gun in their wall.  |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:30:38 PM EST
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Keep AR and handgun at most, hide the AR real good if you must have it there as well. Stayed in an apt 2 years of college, no roommates I'll add, and did just this. Pistol was easily hidden, Tantal in a tennis racket case(along with some desiccant) and under the bed. No way in heck I'd lug a legitimate safe to a temporary dwelling bearing in mind foot traffic while you're moving it in, and folks visiting your residence. Also might add, probably not a bad idea to separate the upper from the lower so far as the rifle goes. My .02 Both great ideas. I have a roommate and he is aware of the guns. I don't trust him but i doubt he'd steal from me. We already discussed the consequences. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:30:54 PM EST
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THIS! Patching a few holes in drywall is a piece of cake! You can also drill into a floor with carpet if you know what you are doing. Get a piece of copper tubing a little larger that the drill bit. Work it into the carpet until you hit the flooring( helps to make a small slit). Then, just drill the hole through tubing! When you remove the safe, just rub over the hole and the carpet will cover it back up! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stop growing your gun collection until you can properly house it. If you must, bolt it to the wall...then go to YouTube to learn how to patch a wall. THIS! Patching a few holes in drywall is a piece of cake! You can also drill into a floor with carpet if you know what you are doing. Get a piece of copper tubing a little larger that the drill bit. Work it into the carpet until you hit the flooring( helps to make a small slit). Then, just drill the hole through tubing! When you remove the safe, just rub over the hole and the carpet will cover it back up! This. Then get some renters insurance. It's cheap. Tell them about your guns and make sure they are all covered. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:35:14 PM EST
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1. Bolt the bitch to some studs in the wall then patch the holes landlord probably won't know
2. Get some renters insurance and record all serial numbers 3. Or stash all but what you need at your parents house and still get renters insurance anyways it's like 100 bucks a year 4. Or move 5. Get a super heave safe 6. Store at campus PD if is an option 7. Don't buy anything else 8. Loose lips sink ships 9. Be careful who you let in 10. Claymore your apartment 11. Disregard #10 12. Buy a Dutch sheperd, get a sign that says "warning beware of dog" 13. Get a Chihuahua, train It to attack genitals 14. Move (can't stress this enough) 15. Renters insurance (can't stress this enough) 16. Stack on safes are cheap and can be bolted to walls. Patch well and bolt to studs landlord will never know. 17. False wall If you can't make one of these work idk what to tell you. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:36:46 PM EST
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1. Bolt the bitch to some studs in the wall then patch the holes landlord probably won't know 2. Get some renters insurance and record all serial numbers 3. Or stash all but what you need at your parents house and still get renters insurance anyways it's like 100 bucks a year 4. Or move 5. Get a super heave safe 6. Store at campus PD if is an option 7. Don't buy anything else 8. Loose lips sink ships 9. Be careful who you let in 10. Claymore your apartment 11. Disregard #10 12. Buy a Dutch sheperd, get a sign that says "warning beware of dog" 13. Get a Chihuahua, train It to attack genitals 14. Move (can't stress this enough) 15. Renters insurance (can't stress this enough) 16. Stack on safes are cheap and can be bolted to walls. Patch well and bolt to studs landlord will never know. 17. False wall If you can't make one of these work idk what to tell you. Im sure one will work. Thanks man |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:37:06 PM EST
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buy a jobox and fill the bottom with ammo, top it off with rifles. throw an old blanket over it and set a lava lamp on top.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:38:03 PM EST
[#34]
steel locking cabinet in closet, bolt it to a piece of plywood that covers the entire floor of the closet, then stack other stuff on the board.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:40:27 PM EST
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After reading the op again, I don't think you have any options.
You don't even have a closet. The limitation by your landlord leaves you ultimately vulnerable. A non bolted safe is better than no safe...and I feel the lack of a closet really limits your ability to hide the guns well. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:43:15 PM EST
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Both great ideas. I have a roommate and he is aware of the guns. I don't trust him but i doubt he'd steal from me. We already discussed the consequences. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Keep AR and handgun at most, hide the AR real good if you must have it there as well. Stayed in an apt 2 years of college, no roommates I'll add, and did just this. Pistol was easily hidden, Tantal in a tennis racket case(along with some desiccant) and under the bed. No way in heck I'd lug a legitimate safe to a temporary dwelling bearing in mind foot traffic while you're moving it in, and folks visiting your residence. Also might add, probably not a bad idea to separate the upper from the lower so far as the rifle goes. My .02 Both great ideas. I have a roommate and he is aware of the guns. I don't trust him but i doubt he'd steal from me. We already discussed the consequences. If you don't lock them up, at the very least perhaps consider removing the firing pin from the AR or maybe the bolt and store it elsewhere. If you have a dresser, couch, or so on I'd recommend hiding them, over an easily found safe. Discretion in what you do/say are best. Also, any firearm related decals on a vehicle are advertisement. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:43:59 PM EST
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A modular safe may be easier to get in and out of apt.
http://www.snapsafe.com Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:44:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: buy a jobox and fill the bottom with ammo, top it off with rifles. throw an old blanket over it and set a lava lamp on top. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:44:46 PM EST
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Tried it. She said it was a no go. Im kind screwed when it comes to bolting it down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would run it by your landlord, tell her you will patch the holes when you leave. Tried it. She said it was a no go. Im kind screwed when it comes to bolting it down. Ummm yeah... I bolted down safes when I rented. First I was never foolish enough to ask for permission. Second I spent a lot of time and some money patching up the holes. Always got my security deposit back in full minus any of the places that charged for carpet cleaning despite it being spotless. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:46:45 PM EST
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I would rather have a safe that's not bolted down than nothing. Mine is not bolted down, empty it weighs 400 lbs or so, yeah it could be taken out with a dolly but it's better than keeping them under the bed or stashed in a closet. Get a safe. Just be careful that it doesn't tip when you open the door. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:47:11 PM EST
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Maybe not convenient; can you access the attic area?
Maybe a lighter safe like a Homak or better, and bolt it to the rafters in the attic? |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:48:02 PM EST
[#42]
Leave them lay out all over and get renter's insurance
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:49:00 PM EST
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OP isn't in college or own a single firearm. Im going to go with half of this. OP is in college and this is a fishing expedition for a research paper or other such faggotry about the topic du jour. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:54:34 PM EST
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What about this?? Spread them out in the house.Hidden in plain sight shelves
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Posted: 2/15/2016 11:57:25 PM EST
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Bolt it down. Patch the wall with plaster. If the floor is wood, fill it in with wood putty and and sand it. It it is carpet, it won't be very noticeable at all. It it is a slight problem when you move out, it will be a minor financial penalty. Do clean the place up very well.
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Posted: 2/16/2016 12:01:27 AM EST
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I never expected to have them all here. It was a unforeseen event, so now im worrying about it every night. Trust me, Safe is number 1 goal right now. I can properly patch a wall BTW but my landlord frequently checks the apartment. She wouldn't be to happy about that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stop growing your gun collection until you can properly house it. If you must, bolt it to the wall...then go to YouTube to learn how to patch a wall. I never expected to have them all here. It was a unforeseen event, so now im worrying about it every night. Trust me, Safe is number 1 goal right now. I can properly patch a wall BTW but my landlord frequently checks the apartment. She wouldn't be to happy about that. She should not be trying to see if it is bolted down. That is dangerous. As a matter of fact, it is dangerous to not bolt it down. When the door is open, the safe is off balance. |
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Posted: 2/16/2016 12:04:10 AM EST
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Do you think she would frown upon a gun safe, or a gun safe bolted down? How would she know it was bolted, do you think she would try to rock it? ETA: I see you've already talked to her about this. If she sees a safe, she's going to rock it... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stop growing your gun collection until you can properly house it. If you must, bolt it to the wall...then go to YouTube to learn how to patch a wall. I never expected to have them all here. It was a unforeseen event, so now im worrying about it every night. Trust me, Safe is number 1 goal right now. I can properly patch a wall BTW but my landlord frequently checks the apartment. She wouldn't be to happy about that. Do you think she would frown upon a gun safe, or a gun safe bolted down? How would she know it was bolted, do you think she would try to rock it? ETA: I see you've already talked to her about this. If she sees a safe, she's going to rock it... At the very least, if she rocks it, SHE WILL DAMAGE YOU STUFF. Hold her accountable. |
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Posted: 2/16/2016 12:04:43 AM EST
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What about this?? Spread them out in the house.Hidden in plain sight shelves http://www.coolthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/tactical-wall-shelves-3.jpg You beat me to it. |
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Posted: 2/16/2016 12:05:59 AM EST
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Read Narc's thread from last year.
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Posted: 2/16/2016 12:11:10 AM EST
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buy a jobox and fill the bottom with ammo, top it off with rifles. throw an old blanket over it and set a lava lamp on top. I have this setup. |
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