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Adding to my previous comments,  having seen West's reaction to Leno's question,  I think that there's no doubt he regrets his actions.

I have a hard time condemning someone for an action that he already clearly regrets.    It's not like any of US have never made a mistake
that we regretted and would not repeat.


But if he does it again,  no sympathy.  Never make the same mistake twice. It's hard to forgive that.


CJ
 

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Hey, that's just the sort of thing that West needs in order to wake the hell up and take a damned long hard look at himself
and ask himself if he's the sort of man that he'd want his father to be.  


It could actually make him a better person.   I'm all for that.   I don't care who you are or what your political affiliation is,  I expect everyone
to be well mannered, considerate, and thoughtful in their words and actions.   I won't cut anyone any slack on that regardless of their political
affiliation.


Is Leno liberal?  It doesn't matter to me. He's a GENTLEMAN.  Even his political humor is never mean spirited.   I respect anyone who is
considerate and thoughtful and well mannered, regardless of their political persuasion.     But I have no respect for a jackass, even one
who is politically my twin.

Probably the single greatest harm done to America in the past few years or decades is the loss of the culture of civility that really was a
defining element for all of the greatest decades in American history.     We fought wars and we fought hard,  and even though during
WWII there was much anti-Germanic and anti-Japanese sentiment,  and in the case of the Japanese, it was racially based every bit as
much as it was based on the fact that Japan had attacked us without apparent provocation,  once the war was over we picked Japan up,
set it on its feet, dusted it off, and then started a partnership with Japan that resulted in a very quick rebuilding of Japan, and saw Japan
rapidly transform itself into one of the best neighbors, allies, and businessmen that the western world has ever had.   That's the classic
American spirit of "Now that the fight's over, let's be pals" which I think is maybe the single greatest thing about our classic culture.

We've largely lost that civility, that genuine decency,  particularly when dealing with others in our own country on the other end of the
political spectrum.   Our fellow American citizens,  hating us for our idealogy every bit as much as any American hated the Japanese
on December 8th, 1941,  and frankly the feeling is mutual.     This doesn't feel right to me.   I know it's not.

I would maintain that the Democrats are the aggressors in this deterioration of civility,  but I have no doubt that many Democrats would
feel entirely justified in thinking the same about us.  And maybe their arguments might have merit, if looked at from their perspective.


I wish for a return of civility,  of graciousness,  of everyday kindness,  from everyone.    I wish for a change in our popular culture that
once again places emphasis on these classic and worthy values.

You can start with yourself.   Do YOU measure up?  Picture yourself as your own father or mother.  How close to ideal are you to your own
picture of what a great father or mother is?

Will you work on making yourself more like that?  

Is now soon enough to start?   I think so.  


CJ

Quoted:
Adding to my previous comments,  having seen West's reaction to Leno's question,  I think that there's no doubt he regrets his actions.

I have a hard time condemning someone for an action that he already clearly regrets.    It's not like any of US have never made a mistake
that we regretted and would not repeat.


But if he does it again,  no sympathy.  Never make the same mistake twice. It's hard to forgive that.


CJ
 

Quoted:
Adding to my previous comments,  having seen West's reaction to Leno's question,  I think that there's no doubt he regrets his actions.

I have a hard time condemning someone for an action that he already clearly regrets.    It's not like any of US have never made a mistake
that we regretted and would not repeat.


But if he does it again,  no sympathy.  Never make the same mistake twice. It's hard to forgive that.


CJ
 

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CJ you are usually spot on in your analysis of things.....in this case I think it's
more along the lines of Kanye not regretting what he did but regretting the fallout
from what he did.

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Kanye is a piece of shit. Enough said.

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We've been taking the high road and not attacking the left the way they've been attacking us for decades, and look where it's gotten us.



You don't stop an attack by gently tapping your attacker on the shoulder and saying, "please stop, please stop". You stop an attack by hitting your attacker as hard as you can in the most vulnerable point you can while screaming, "GET DOWN, MOTHERFUCKER!" And if they keep trying to get up to take another swing at you, you stomp their ass into the ground until they quit moving.



THEN you can be the bigger man and pick their ass up and hope they make something decent of themselves. Until then, they're not your friend and we should stop acting like they are.

Quoted:
Adding to my previous comments,  having seen West's reaction to Leno's question,  I think that there's no doubt he regrets his actions.

I have a hard time condemning someone for an action that he already clearly regrets.    It's not like any of US have never made a mistake
that we regretted and would not repeat.


But if he does it again,  no sympathy.  Never make the same mistake twice. It's hard to forgive that.


CJ
 

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Leno tells Kanye West that he ruined what was probably the biggest night of a young girls life, and asks him what his dead mother would have thought about his actions. He sat there in silence and almost cried.

Fucking Owned. Its not very often that invoking someones dead mother as an insult is acceptable, but for this shitbag it is.

God I hate Kanye West.



LINK

Quoted:



Adding to my previous comments,  having seen West's reaction to Leno's question,  I think that there's no doubt he regrets his actions.





I have a hard time condemning someone for an action that he already clearly regrets.    It's not like any of US have never made a mistake


that we regretted and would not repeat.
But if he does it again,  no sympathy.  Never make the same mistake twice. It's hard to forgive that.
CJ


 

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Fuck him.

Act like a thug be treated like a thug.

Anyone have a link to this grils music video that won? Need ot see what all the fuss is about.

Quoted:


If the music video she won the award for was the song that was playing as she was walking to the stage you might be better off not listening to it.  Her target group seems to be girls ages 5-14.

But hey, who am I to judge?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wRkoGKQ8qQ

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my bet is the whole thing was drummed up by MTV to get ratings. fuck em all

Quoted:
Honest question:

Is it hypocritical for us to think it's okay for Joe Wilson to yell "You lie" to the Pres, while despising gayfish west?

Quoted:
My prediction after Taylor and Kanye make up and he apologizes profusely, a Taylor swift Country/Rap Song featuring Kanye West that will top the charts

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Kanye is a piece of shit. Enough said.

Quoted:


Fuck Kanya and Fuck Obama

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Honest  Stupid question:

Is it hypocritical for us to think it's okay for Joe Wilson to yell "You lie" to the Pres, while despising gayfish west?

Quoted:
Honest question:

Is it hypocritical for us to think it's okay for Joe Wilson to yell "You lie" to the Pres, while despising gayfish west?

Quoted:
Adding to my previous comments,  having seen West's reaction to Leno's question,  I think that there's no doubt he regrets his actions.

I have a hard time condemning someone for an action that he already clearly regrets.    It's not like any of US have never made a mistake
that we regretted and would not repeat.


But if he does it again,  no sympathy.  Never make the same mistake twice. It's hard to forgive that.


CJ
 

Quoted:


I think there's a tad bit of difference between someone calling out a liar on his bullshit, and some asshole who ruins somebody's big night and yells "GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE!" on tv for no fucking reason.

I mean, even Chris Tucker was looking at him like he was fucking insane when he did that.

Quoted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ofKepheEZ4

Quoted:


I can be her prince any time.

Quoted:


This isn't the first time... nor the second... nor the third...

Quoted:


Yup. Cameras were sure ready to capture facial expressions.
 

Quoted:
Hey, that's just the sort of thing that West needs in order to wake the hell up and take a damned long hard look at himself
and ask himself if he's the sort of man that he'd want his father to be.  


It could actually make him a better person.   I'm all for that.   I don't care who you are or what your political affiliation is,  I expect everyone
to be well mannered, considerate, and thoughtful in their words and actions.   I won't cut anyone any slack on that regardless of their political
affiliation.


Is Leno liberal?  It doesn't matter to me. He's a GENTLEMAN.  Even his political humor is never mean spirited.   I respect anyone who is
considerate and thoughtful and well mannered, regardless of their political persuasion.     But I have no respect for a jackass, even one
who is politically my twin.

Probably the single greatest harm done to America in the past few years or decades is the loss of the culture of civility that really was a
defining element for all of the greatest decades in American history.     We fought wars and we fought hard,  and even though during
WWII there was much anti-Germanic and anti-Japanese sentiment,  and in the case of the Japanese, it was racially based every bit as
much as it was based on the fact that Japan had attacked us without apparent provocation,  once the war was over we picked Japan up,
set it on its feet, dusted it off, and then started a partnership with Japan that resulted in a very quick rebuilding of Japan, and saw Japan
rapidly transform itself into one of the best neighbors, allies, and businessmen that the western world has ever had.   That's the classic
American spirit of "Now that the fight's over, let's be pals" which I think is maybe the single greatest thing about our classic culture.

We've largely lost that civility, that genuine decency,  particularly when dealing with others in our own country on the other end of the
political spectrum.   Our fellow American citizens,  hating us for our idealogy every bit as much as any American hated the Japanese
on December 8th, 1941,  and frankly the feeling is mutual.     This doesn't feel right to me.   I know it's not.

I would maintain that the Democrats are the aggressors in this deterioration of civility,  but I have no doubt that many Democrats would
feel entirely justified in thinking the same about us.  And maybe their arguments might have merit, if looked at from their perspective.


I wish for a return of civility,  of graciousness,  of everyday kindness,  from everyone.    I wish for a change in our popular culture that
once again places emphasis on these classic and worthy values.

You can start with yourself.   Do YOU measure up?  Picture yourself as your own father or mother.  How close to ideal are you to your own
picture of what a great father or mother is?

Will you work on making yourself more like that?  

Is now soon enough to start?   I think so.  


CJ

Quoted:
FKW

Quoted:
Adding to my previous comments,  having seen West's reaction to Leno's question,  I think that there's no doubt he regrets his actions.

I have a hard time condemning someone for an action that he already clearly regrets.    It's not like any of US have never made a mistake
that we regretted and would not repeat.


But if he does it again,  no sympathy.  Never make the same mistake twice. It's hard to forgive that.


CJ