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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:14:13 PM EDT
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AKs are so light because you leave them in the trashcan. Where they belong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. ... And get a much lighter gun... With proven reliability... A massive logistical base... Quality mags... A huge family of accessories... AKs are so light because you leave them in the trashcan. Where they belong. Still a better gun than the StG. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:15:04 PM EDT
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Cool, but not $1800 cool.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:16:09 PM EDT
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You obviously didn't watch their video. I believe they lay it our quite logically on why there was a need to change certain things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. You obviously didn't watch their video. I believe they lay it our quite logically on why there was a need to change certain things. I'm aware of why they took this route. And it's why I won't buy one. A non-replica look-alike which is massively different in every technical way is not something I care to own. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:17:30 PM EDT
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I'm aware of why they took this route. And it's why I won't buy one. A non-replica look-alike which is massively different in every technical way is not something I care to own. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. You obviously didn't watch their video. I believe they lay it our quite logically on why there was a need to change certain things. I'm aware of why they took this route. And it's why I won't buy one. A non-replica look-alike which is massively different in every technical way is not something I care to own. Then go buy a $21,000 STG. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:18:56 PM EDT
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Then go buy a $21,000 STG. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. You obviously didn't watch their video. I believe they lay it our quite logically on why there was a need to change certain things. I'm aware of why they took this route. And it's why I won't buy one. A non-replica look-alike which is massively different in every technical way is not something I care to own. Then go buy a $21,000 STG. That will happen long before I'd buy this thing. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:32:05 PM EDT
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I'm aware of why they took this route. And it's why I won't buy one. A non-replica look-alike which is massively different in every technical way is not something I care to own. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. You obviously didn't watch their video. I believe they lay it our quite logically on why there was a need to change certain things. I'm aware of why they took this route. And it's why I won't buy one. A non-replica look-alike which is massively different in every technical way is not something I care to own. "Massively" different? I cannot open the video at work here, but the differences between the 7.92 Kurz and 7.62x39 cartrides are not "massive". The Soviet round has a OAL that is 8mm greater than the German one. That is mice nuts to the overall proportions of the rifle, especially if the ribs in the magazine are copied proportionately on the new version. In other words, at a casual glance, you would probably NOT be able to tell the difference unless you held the two side by side, and looked specifically at the magazine area. For someone who wants a "close copy", this rifle would be imminently more practical than a "real clone". After all, how many of guys are really going to go out and shoot a shitload of 7.92x33 K at the current going prices? Hell, if you can afford very much of THAT oddball cartridge, you can spring for a REAL StG-44!! 
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:39:36 PM EDT
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"Massively" different? I cannot open the video at work here, but the differences between the 7.92 Kurz and 7.62x39 cartrides are not "massive". The Soviet round has a OAL that is 8mm greater than the German one. That is mice nuts to the overall proportions of the rifle, especially if the ribs in the magazine are copied proportionately on the new version. In other words, at a casual glance, you would probably NOT be able to tell the difference unless you held the two side by side, and looked specifically at the magazine area. For someone who wants a "close copy", this rifle would be imminently more practical than a "real clone". After all, how many of guys are really going to go out and shoot a shitload of 7.92x33 K at the current going prices? Hell, if you can afford very much of THAT oddball cartridge, you can spring for a REAL StG-44!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. You obviously didn't watch their video. I believe they lay it our quite logically on why there was a need to change certain things. I'm aware of why they took this route. And it's why I won't buy one. A non-replica look-alike which is massively different in every technical way is not something I care to own. "Massively" different? I cannot open the video at work here, but the differences between the 7.92 Kurz and 7.62x39 cartrides are not "massive". The Soviet round has a OAL that is 8mm greater than the German one. That is mice nuts to the overall proportions of the rifle, especially if the ribs in the magazine are copied proportionately on the new version. In other words, at a casual glance, you would probably NOT be able to tell the difference unless you held the two side by side, and looked specifically at the magazine area. For someone who wants a "close copy", this rifle would be imminently more practical than a "real clone". After all, how many of guys are really going to go out and shoot a shitload of 7.92x33 K at the current going prices? Hell, if you can afford very much of THAT oddball cartridge, you can spring for a REAL StG-44!! They are offering them in different configurations, SBR, folding stock and also put a pic rail on it. They also take different magazines... With that said if you want you can get a 8mm version and have it practically the same thing with different stanag magazines. IMO this isn't a big enough difference to matter to me. That's just me personally. While I would rather have a full auto version, I think this is badass. I want a 7.62x39 in its close to standard configuration pretty bad actually. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:42:51 PM EDT
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$1800 is a little too steep.. i'm a buyer at $1500-1600
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:51:43 PM EDT
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I can't wait to see one done that way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Imagine the minds that will be blown when someone tops it with an aimpoint or acog. Nein, Sturm is fine!! 
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:53:19 PM EDT
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Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. The same as the point of a FG-42 replica in .308, which seems to be a successful item, although 7.92x57 is much more accessable than kurz. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:54:59 PM EDT
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I'd be willing to bet you could get a repro FG-42 scope and mount to put on it
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:55:41 PM EDT
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No someone needs to come out with a good Stoner 63 replica
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:55:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The same as the point of a FG-42 replica in .308, which seems to be a successful item, although 7.92x57 is much more accessable than kurz. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. The same as the point of a FG-42 replica in .308, which seems to be a successful item, although 7.92x57 is much more accessable than kurz. I have quite a few fun but impractical guns. I wouldn't mind having another one. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:57:03 PM EDT
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Would like to see some actual working examples.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 7:59:54 PM EDT
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I wouldn't give $179.90 for it. For one in 8mm Kurz, I'd buy ten at that price.  Then all I'll need is a King Tiger to ride atop of.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 8:01:12 PM EDT
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I have quite a few fun but impractical guns. I wouldn't mind having another one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. The same as the point of a FG-42 replica in .308, which seems to be a successful item, although 7.92x57 is much more accessable than kurz. I have quite a few fun but impractical guns. I wouldn't mind having another one. I have lots of AKs. I have a few ARs. I have 0 Sturmgewehr. If a 5.56 or 7.62x39 Stg is only 70% authentic (however anyone wants to define that word in this context) 0.7 Stg is more Stg than I'm likely to obtain otherwise. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 8:02:07 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. I wouldn't have quite put it that way but..................exactly! |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 8:03:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a replica of a historical rifle. It exists for novelty and history. It is to be looked at, shown off, and maybe taken to the range for a few mags once or twice a year. What's your plan? Roll with a heavy as hell, obsolete, impossible-to-find-parts-for, unproven-reliability replica rifle during the zombie apocalypse? Please. Anyone who uses "training ammunition budget" in association with "StG-44" needs to sit down and think for five minutes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. but ya know... that's just me  It's a replica of a historical rifle. It exists for novelty and history. It is to be looked at, shown off, and maybe taken to the range for a few mags once or twice a year. What's your plan? Roll with a heavy as hell, obsolete, impossible-to-find-parts-for, unproven-reliability replica rifle during the zombie apocalypse? Please. Anyone who uses "training ammunition budget" in association with "StG-44" needs to sit down and think for five minutes. I have to agree. It's not like people are going to be taking carbine courses with these things. If I just wanted the look and no correctness, the .22LR one would be my choice. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 8:24:26 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. This I was excited about the rifle and price until they mentioned the proprietary Kurz mags. I'll pass |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 8:25:30 PM EDT
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Why not make it in 9mm? I would be down for a Mp40 in 9mm I believe one is supposed to be coming in through ATI I believe. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 8:27:39 PM EDT
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It's not original so there's not actually any history there.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 8:28:34 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. So I take it you will be buying one? 'Cause it will be offered in the config you just mentioned. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 8:42:16 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. This I was excited about the rifle and price until they mentioned the proprietary Kurz mags. I'll pass This is why they are proprietary. $50 vs. $400. Do the math. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 9:52:34 PM EDT
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Interesting.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 10:05:13 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. I get your point I guess. It's a zazzed up clone of an old design in calibers already used by guns that probably do the job better. Looking at it: 1800 bones + some modding for a mount + La Rue or ADM mount + aimpoint pro + can of krylon (to get rid of shininess and wood) and I'm up to 25 hundo on something that may or may not shoot better than the M4 set up to do the same thing. Plus it's fugly |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:04:25 PM EDT
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Then sign me up for a trip to gayland via route 7.62x39 Pucker your anuses ladyboys, we bull queers take by force. And by 7.62 sturmgewehr. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. Then sign me up for a trip to gayland via route 7.62x39 Pucker your anuses ladyboys, we bull queers take by force. And by 7.62 sturmgewehr. Mein Guter Kameraden |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:06:02 PM EDT
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No rails or key-mod, pass. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Wrong. The rear sight comes with a small piece of picatinny rail you can swap out if you do t want to use the stock irons. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:25:30 PM EDT
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DUPE Where's the dupe link 13'r? https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_2/452785_STG44_in_5_56_on_the_way_.html&page=1 |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:29:44 PM EDT
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I always held the theory, with a few very small tweaks, would work fine in a modern shooting environment. We'll see.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:31:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:33:57 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. This An STG44 with AK mags would look retarded. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:35:11 PM EDT
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Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. Well, I wouldn't have put it exactly the way TexasRifleman did . . . but YES! Agree. Go 8mm Kurz or GO AWAY. 
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:42:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:46:10 PM EDT
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Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. Because a replica is still a replica, and if it's cool or sitting in a niche in a collection, then it's prime value is in being a usable representation. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:49:14 PM EDT
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I'm just giddy imaging how fun merc'ing around Europe will be rolling with one of these.
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Posted: 12/1/2015 12:04:53 AM EDT
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I'd be a buyer for one in 7.92 at $1800. I'm just skeptical of an April release and they don't even have a working prototype
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:09:50 PM EDT
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I get your point I guess. It's a zazzed up clone of an old design in calibers already used by guns that probably do the job better. Looking at it: 1800 bones + some modding for a mount + La Rue or ADM mount + aimpoint pro + can of krylon (to get rid of shininess and wood) and I'm up to 25 hundo on something that may or may not shoot better than the M4 set up to do the same thing. Plus it's fugly Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. I get your point I guess. It's a zazzed up clone of an old design in calibers already used by guns that probably do the job better. Looking at it: 1800 bones + some modding for a mount + La Rue or ADM mount + aimpoint pro + can of krylon (to get rid of shininess and wood) and I'm up to 25 hundo on something that may or may not shoot better than the M4 set up to do the same thing. Plus it's fugly 
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:26:19 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. Allrighty Well he is right. Only reason to own one is for nostalgia. If you're changing the manual of arms and caliber you're not getting an STG. If you just want a fun gun to shoot, an AR-15 will blow these out of the water for less. Or you can get some other better gun like a Tavor or MCX. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:26:44 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. I get your point I guess. It's a zazzed up clone of an old design in calibers already used by guns that probably do the job better. Looking at it: 1800 bones + some modding for a mount + La Rue or ADM mount + aimpoint pro + can of krylon (to get rid of shininess and wood) and I'm up to 25 hundo on something that may or may not shoot better than the M4 set up to do the same thing. Plus it's fugly
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:28:34 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. I get your point I guess. It's a zazzed up clone of an old design in calibers already used by guns that probably do the job better. Looking at it: 1800 bones + some modding for a mount + La Rue or ADM mount + aimpoint pro + can of krylon (to get rid of shininess and wood) and I'm up to 25 hundo on something that may or may not shoot better than the M4 set up to do the same thing. Plus it's fugly
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:28:47 PM EDT
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How expensive is 7.92 Kurz? If too expensive I might be interested in one in 5.56
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:29:54 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. I get your point I guess. It's a zazzed up clone of an old design in calibers already used by guns that probably do the job better. Looking at it: 1800 bones + some modding for a mount + La Rue or ADM mount + aimpoint pro + can of krylon (to get rid of shininess and wood) and I'm up to 25 hundo on something that may or may not shoot better than the M4 set up to do the same thing. Plus it's fugly
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:34:26 PM EDT
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I think it's sweet. I will buy one in 762x39 at that price for sure. Just get an AK is a weird argument. Don't ever buy a revolver just get a semi auto pistol. Don't get a hammer fired when striker fired is better. Don't need an ak because AR is more better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:49:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:52:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/1/2015 7:58:05 PM EDT
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It's a replica of a historical rifle. It exists for novelty and history. It is to be looked at, shown off, and maybe taken to the range for a few mags once or twice a year. What's your plan? Roll with a heavy as hell, obsolete, impossible-to-find-parts-for, unproven-reliability replica rifle during the zombie apocalypse? Please. Anyone who uses "training ammunition budget" in association with "StG-44" needs to sit down and think for five minutes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/1/2015 8:07:39 PM EDT
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8mm Kurtz for me. Me thinks I will buy one. Is 8mm Kurtz commercially available?
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Posted: 12/1/2015 8:11:28 PM EDT
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Prvi Partizan makes it
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Posted: 12/1/2015 8:17:10 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. I get your point I guess. It's a zazzed up clone of an old design in calibers already used by guns that probably do the job better. Looking at it: 1800 bones + some modding for a mount + La Rue or ADM mount + aimpoint pro + can of krylon (to get rid of shininess and wood) and I'm up to 25 hundo on something that may or may not shoot better than the M4 set up to do the same thing. Plus it's fugly
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Posted: 12/1/2015 8:22:27 PM EDT
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If it is in anything but 8mm Kurz, using anything but reproduction StG-44 mags, it's fucking gay and can go eat dicks in gayland. Agreed. What's the point of a Stg replica in an AK caliber? Just buy an AK and save tons of money. The same as the point of a FG-42 replica in .308, which seems to be a successful item, although 7.92x57 is much more accessable than kurz. That is equally gay, and an affront to nature and the Gods of firearms. 
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