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Posted: 12/10/2019 11:26:52 PM EST

We'd have seen the P-80 Shooting Star, F8F Bearcat, AD Skyraider go into action. I have to wonder how the P-80 would've done against the Me 262?

Also the T20 Garand and more use of the M26 Pershing.

What other just too late weapons would've seen use?

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:31:38 PM EST

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Wasnt the Skyraider built at the end of the war?

You listed that one. The well trained early 20s pilots in the P80s would have chewed up the 16 year olds in the 262s.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:33:12 PM EST

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The most obvious one, nukes.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:33:22 PM EST

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Early air to air missiles.

More nukes.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:33:56 PM EST

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More atom bombs by then

How does the war go on? Do we beat Germany and then get into a fight with Russia over the treasure and to stomp out communism?

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:34:28 PM EST

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SKS and AK-47

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:34:51 PM EST

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I read the title as WWI and thought, there wouldn't be anyone left alive to fight.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:35:20 PM EST

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Yeah we'll go with that

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:35:22 PM EST

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More atom bombs by then

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New thread topic: If Roosevelt lived longer how much Stalin cock would he have gobbled?

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:37:09 PM EST

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P-80 could outrun, outclimb, outroll, and outturn the 262. It would have been a slaughter. Although the two aircraft never met in combat, they were flown in a comparison test at Wright Field after the war. According to reports from that test, the Me 262 had a speed advantage in a dive, but the P-80 was superior in all other respects.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:37:31 PM EST

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Panther Ausf F

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:38:18 PM EST

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Panzerkampfwagen E-100, Panzer VIII Maus, Horten 229, STG44 being more widespread, Leibermuster camo pattern, Fliegerfaust

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:43:06 PM EST

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And nukes. As fast as they could crank them out. I suspect we would have seen some “tactical” use. And Germany would probably not have any major cities. Or at least, none pre-1947. Or later.

I’m glad it ended before 1946.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:47:11 PM EST

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P-80 could outrun, outclimb, outroll, and outturn the 262. It would have been a slaughter. Although the two aircraft never met in combat, they were flown in a comparison test at Wright Field after the war. According to reports from that test, the Me 262 had a speed advantage in a dive, but the P-80 was superior in all other respects.

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I would imagine we would’ve had a significant advantage in numbers as well.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:49:01 PM EST

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We would have developed the B36 peacekeeper and pressed it into service.

As we started to dominate the air more...we'd have seen the development of CAS.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:50:24 PM EST

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Let it drag on long enough and you'll be able to see how European VS American tranny infantry stacks up head to head.

Puns intended.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:50:49 PM EST

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we'd be speaking japanese

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:51:20 PM EST

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We would have been able to open a second Asian front using Japan as our new staging area plus have all of their naval/air/military industry

Actually same for Germany

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:51:22 PM EST

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We would have nuked Berlin. Game over. Europe would be a different place today.

Posted: 12/10/2019 11:57:38 PM EST

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Horten HO 229 seems like it had the potential to be bad news for the allies...

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Posted: 12/11/2019 12:03:32 AM EST

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We'd have seen the P-80 Shooting Star, F8F Bearcat, AD Skyraider go into action. I have to wonder how the P-80 would've done against the Me 262?

Also the T20 Garland and more use of the M26 Pershing.

What other just too late weapons would've seen use?

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Gloster Meteor. It saw some combat but never fought the 262 to my knowledge.

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:05:53 AM EST

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B 32 employed more than it was.
M2 Carbine w/30 round magazines more widely issued
Two additional Iowa-class battleships, plus more use of the four Alaska-class Battle Cruisers
P2V Neptune
F7F Tigercat
C-87
C-97
B-29D (aka B-50)
B-36 (possible)
F9F (possible)

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:06:20 AM EST

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That Horten is very cool but with no tail and no fly by wire I doubt it would have been controlable.

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:14:38 AM EST

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We'd have seen the P-80 Shooting Star, F8F Bearcat, AD Skyraider go into action. I have to wonder how the P-80 would've done against the Me 262?

Also the T20 Garland and more use of the M26 Pershing.

What other just too late weapons would've seen use?

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Google failed me.
WTF is a T20 Garland?

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:20:37 AM EST

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Horten HO 229 seems like it had the potential to be bad news for the allies...

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Lolz. No. Looks futuristic though, I’ll give em that. ZeeNazis had style. They had swagger.

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:26:19 AM EST

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-K

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:27:16 AM EST

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Lolz. No. Looks futuristic though, I’ll give em that. ZeeNazis had style. They had swagger.

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Horten HO 229 seems like it had the potential to be bad news for the allies...

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Lolz. No. Looks futuristic though, I’ll give em that. ZeeNazis had style. They had swagger.

Flying wing isn't all that much of an advantage, and has disadvantages as well.

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:35:30 AM EST

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Lolz. No. Looks futuristic though, I'll give em that. ZeeNazis had style. They had swagger.

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Horten HO 229 seems like it had the potential to be bad news for the allies...

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Lolz. No. Looks futuristic though, I'll give em that. ZeeNazis had style. They had swagger.

Would have suffered from the same issues every flying wing had until the B2.

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:36:14 AM EST

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Flying wing isn't all that much of an advantage, and has disadvantages as well.

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Horten HO 229 seems like it had the potential to be bad news for the allies...

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Lolz. No. Looks futuristic though, I’ll give em that. ZeeNazis had style. They had swagger.

Flying wing isn't all that much of an advantage, and has disadvantages as well.

People get seduced by a sexy picture, and fail to consider practicality and Logistics.

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:37:19 AM EST

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Posted: 12/11/2019 12:37:25 AM EST

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@wganz T20 GARAND

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:48:21 AM EST

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Germany had nukes in '45 and '46.

So to keep the thread going correctly, let's assume no nukes were used so the war can continue with all the new cool toys.

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:49:19 AM EST

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Sturmgewehr and Volkstuemgewehr in large issue

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:49:46 AM EST

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Not a chance they would have.

Posted: 12/11/2019 12:55:40 AM EST

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Germany had nukes in '45 and '46.

So to keep the thread going correctly, let's assume no nukes were used so the war can continue with all the new cool toys.

Not a chance they would have.

Don't take my word for it. Watch this:

Fatherland 1994 HQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpvAdeAv8KI

Posted: 12/11/2019 7:07:18 AM EST

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I would imagine we would’ve had a significant advantage in numbers as well.

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P-80 could outrun, outclimb, outroll, and outturn the 262. It would have been a slaughter. Although the two aircraft never met in combat, they were flown in a comparison test at Wright Field after the war. According to reports from that test, the Me 262 had a speed advantage in a dive, but the P-80 was superior in all other respects.

I would imagine we would’ve had a significant advantage in numbers as well.

The 262's Jumo engines were definitely inferior to the J33 !

Posted: 12/11/2019 7:10:49 AM EST

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That Horten is very cool but with no tail and no fly by wire I doubt it would have been controlable.

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Horten brothers were tail less aircraft pioneers. The Horten was a successful design as the few videos that are out there show.

Posted: 12/11/2019 7:54:48 AM EST

[#37]

2nd Post nailed it. Thread ended after that answer.

Posted: 12/11/2019 7:57:13 AM EST

[#38]

B36's escorted by Twin Mustangs dropping nukes whenever and wherever they pleased.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:04:07 AM EST

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And nukes. As fast as they could crank them out. I suspect we would have seen some “tactical” use. And Germany would probably not have any major cities. Or at least, none pre-1947. Or later.

I’m glad it ended before 1946.

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Hitlers last official letter was to his generals, turning down their urgent request for hitler to evacuate Berlin and lead what was left of the German army to fight on.

Had he done so, the Nazis could have held out for a few more months at least.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:05:43 AM EST

[#40]

Luft’46

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:06:50 AM EST

[#41]

Just recently watched a fascinating YouTube video on Germany’s plan for a 2’stage V-2’meant to strike NYC.

Test stands for the rocket motor were even constructed in Northern Germany by 1945.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:13:06 AM EST

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That Horten is very cool but with no tail and no fly by wire I doubt it would have been controlable.

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This.

there's a reason no practical flying wings existed until after the computer age, aka fly by wire...

Flying wings are good at lifting heavy loads, but are very unstable in certain flight regimes. Would not have been too much of a threat in a fight.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:16:21 AM EST

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USA would have conquered and occupied the entire planet. I know because I achieved this, several times, playing Hearts of Iron many years ago.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:21:40 AM EST

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Luft 46 secret weapons are far more interesting to speculate.
Swarms of cheap He-162 would have been useful if they had trained pilots in them.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:27:34 AM EST

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Thank you cerebral hemorrhage.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:29:01 AM EST

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The most obvious one, nukes.

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This. There would have been a lot more incinerated cities.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:29:43 AM EST

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I read the title as WWI and thought, there wouldn't be anyone left alive to fight.

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Posted: 12/11/2019 8:32:11 AM EST

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The B36 was a massive lumbering AC and would have made an easy target I think.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:33:15 AM EST

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What pushes the war to 46/47?

D-Day gets pushed back and they can’t reInvade anytime soon?

Conventional invasion of Japan bogs down?

Nukes is the answer to both.

Posted: 12/11/2019 8:38:02 AM EST

[#50]

Fascinating topic.

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