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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:15:37 AM EDT
..orders from them.
Also I would say they also need to brush up on Constitutional law and the Bill of Rights. He was quick to tell me his rank and how I was going to violate someone's civil rights by his direction. 
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:16:44 AM EDT
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..orders from them. Also I would say they also need to brush up on Constitutional law and the Bill of Rights. He was quick to tell me his rank and how I was going to violate someone's civil rights by his direction. Details? How/what civil rights did he want you to violate? |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:16:50 AM EDT
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Private Pyle?
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:17:33 AM EDT
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C'mon you dirty tease, give us more.....
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:19:35 AM EDT
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..orders from them. Also I would say they also need to brush up on Constitutional law and the Bill of Rights. He was quick to tell me his rank and how I was going to violate someone's civil rights by his direction. Backbencher? 
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:19:56 AM EDT
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..orders from them. Also I would say they also need to brush up on Constitutional law and the Bill of Rights. He was quick to tell me his rank and how I was going to violate someone's civil rights by his direction. I hope you offered him a nice hot glass of shut the fuck up. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:20:01 AM EDT
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Also I would say they also need to brush up on Constitutional law and the Bill of Rights. Good. I was worried that there wasn't enough ancillary training already.
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:20:17 AM EDT
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The FEMA trains aren't going to load by themselves Sheriff.
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:20:38 AM EDT
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Found him
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:21:39 AM EDT
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Fuck that guy
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:22:14 AM EDT
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..orders from them. Details? How/what civil rights did he want you to violate? He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:23:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ..orders from them. Details? How/what civil rights did he want you to violate? He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:23:20 AM EDT
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That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems...
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:23:27 AM EDT
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I hope you offered him a nice hot glass of shut the fuck up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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..orders from them. I hope you offered him a nice hot glass of shut the fuck up. Oh I did. I fully expected him to complain on me. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:24:12 AM EDT
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He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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..orders from them. Details? How/what civil rights did he want you to violate? He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Maybe you should have arrested him. It sounds like he is on drugs... |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:24:39 AM EDT
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If you want to PM me some details, I fully understand.
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:24:48 AM EDT
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That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:25:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ..orders from them. Details? How/what civil rights did he want you to violate? He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Sounds like probable cause to me. Why didn't you get it on? |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:26:06 AM EDT
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I was told "this is what we do in the Army". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". Fair enough, but he's wrong. And a douchebag. And only one of the Army's officers. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:26:25 AM EDT
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Why didn't he just do it himself? On a military installation any officer has some apprehension authority.
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:27:17 AM EDT
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Yeah, there's always "that guy" and a good opportunity to throw this down:
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:27:39 AM EDT
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He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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..orders from them. Details? How/what civil rights did he want you to violate? He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Is he a member here |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:27:56 AM EDT
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Rank?
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:29:06 AM EDT
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Fair enough, but he's wrong. And a douchebag. And only one of the Army's officers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". Fair enough, but he's wrong. And a douchebag. And only one of the Army's officers. LOL... well there you have it, it was merely an isolated incident... #thethingreenline |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:29:40 AM EDT
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That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". I dunno how "the Army" does it, but I was a Marine Corps MP and that wouldn't have flown. He would have gotten a respectful "GTFO". You don't lose all your civil rights just because you signed the dotted line (about 87% of them, but not all of them  ).
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:30:09 AM EDT
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lolwut?
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:30:13 AM EDT
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Impossible, the military is the embodiment of perfection.
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:33:01 AM EDT
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Impossible, the military is the embodiment of perfection. I know, right? We didn't have MPs with crime waivers or nothin'!
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:35:10 AM EDT
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Did he have Tats?
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:36:53 AM EDT
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Did he have Tats? 
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:44:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dunno how "the Army" does it, but I was a Marine Corps MP and that wouldn't have flown. He would have gotten a respectful "GTFO". You don't lose all your civil rights just because you signed the dotted line (about 87% of them, but not all of them ).Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". I dunno how "the Army" does it, but I was a Marine Corps MP and that wouldn't have flown. He would have gotten a respectful "GTFO". You don't lose all your civil rights just because you signed the dotted line (about 87% of them, but not all of them ). |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:49:45 AM EDT
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Fair enough, but he's wrong. And a douchebag. And only one of the Army's officers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". Fair enough, but he's wrong. And a douchebag. And only one of the Army's officers. I've only had one other bad encounter with a military person. I just thought it was funny how he reacted to being told no. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:56:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've only had one other bad encounter with a military person. I just thought it was funny how he reacted to being told no. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". Fair enough, but he's wrong. And a douchebag. And only one of the Army's officers. I've only had one other bad encounter with a military person. I just thought it was funny how he reacted to being told no. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:56:40 AM EDT
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Are you allowed to ridicule, question someone's intelligence, thought process, and grasp of reality while you are working and in uniform?
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:56:42 AM EDT
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He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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..orders from them. Details? How/what civil rights did he want you to violate? He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Arrest on a hunch? Lol, no. Tresspass private property to investigate said hunch? He needs more than that. Kick in a door based on his known credibility and basis of knowledge? Not unless you have enough to get a warrant and can define some clear exigency. Please tell me you went into detail with him. 
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Posted: 3/10/2015 9:58:06 AM EDT
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Fair enough, but he's wrong. And a douchebag. And only one of the Army's officers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". Fair enough, but he's wrong. And a douchebag. And only one of the Army's officers. But the problem we're facing is they are trying to fill the military with people who think like that and would have no problem stomping on the constitution. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:02:22 AM EDT
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Didn't you see some rights violations after Katrina too? It was quite a while back, but I remember a thread where you were talking about it. Was it National Guardsmen? My memory is a bit hazy on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've only had one other bad encounter with a military person. I just thought it was funny how he reacted to being told no. I saw what I now believe to be members of the 82nd with civilian guns leaned up against their hummers at a checkpoint location. Also had a what I believe to be a major stop by one of the locations I was guarding with the back of his hummer full of civilian guns. They were stationed a the NASA Michoud facility. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:04:59 AM EDT
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Yeah, there's always "that guy" and a good opportunity to throw this down: <a href="http://s31.photobucket.com/user/familyman357/media/ohyoureinthearmy_zpsa695f369.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c397/familyman357/ohyoureinthearmy_zpsa695f369.jpg</a> That's pretty funny! Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:05:09 AM EDT
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Maybe he is used to how MP's do shit on base? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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..orders from them. Details? How/what civil rights did he want you to violate? He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Not so much, the staff judge advocate is even more afraid of that stuff than a civilian counterpart |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:05:16 AM EDT
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Arrest on a hunch? Lol, no. Tresspass private property to investigate said hunch? He needs more than that. Kick in a door based on his known credibility and basis of knowledge? Not unless you have enough to get a warrant and can define some clear exigency. Please tell me you went into detail with him. I just told him what he wanted me to do violates the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. He was very agitated with me. His mind had shut down to being reasoned with. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:06:22 AM EDT
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It is my understanding that the first week of Judge Advocate training is learning how to say no to everything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". I dunno how "the Army" does it, but I was a Marine Corps MP and that wouldn't have flown. He would have gotten a respectful "GTFO". You don't lose all your civil rights just because you signed the dotted line (about 87% of them, but not all of them ).Everything, repeat after me "no to all of the things" |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:06:45 AM EDT
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Officers. Nuff said.
In my time at Benning, I met exactly two officers that I respected. The rest are more worried about getting saluted and grooming their careers than soldier welfare. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:10:25 AM EDT
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Worst one I ever had was an AF Major stationed at Dyess. Drunk off his ass and physically abusing female passerby at a concert. Snatched him up and his wife started hitting me, so they went to jail as a couple. Lots of "I'm military and you are not" going on.
That jackass filed a complaint on me and continued to file complaints for three years afterwards. His command of course did nothing in spite several arrests for assaults against (usually) women. At one time the jackass had THREE pending assault cases against him. 
If you are USAF commander here is a clue. If one of your officers drinks like a fish, fights anyone standing in front of him EVERY weekend and gets picked up for smashing car windows afterwards, you should really stop defending him and take out the trash. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:11:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:15:18 AM EDT
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Toss him a left handed salute then walk away.
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:17:18 AM EDT
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Are you allowed to ridicule, question someone's intelligence, thought process, and grasp of reality while you are working and in uniform? Oh yes. Did it frequently.
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:17:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything, repeat after me "no to all of the things" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's a lot of "they" talk for a run-in with one douchebag, it seems... I was told "this is what we do in the Army". I dunno how "the Army" does it, but I was a Marine Corps MP and that wouldn't have flown. He would have gotten a respectful "GTFO". You don't lose all your civil rights just because you signed the dotted line (about 87% of them, but not all of them ).Everything, repeat after me "no to all of the things" I know everyone in the Army hates JAs, but by and large they are on the right team. I trust them much more than I do civilian lawyers. |
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:17:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:18:49 AM EDT
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Yeah, there's always "that guy" and a good opportunity to throw this down: <a href="http://s31.photobucket.com/user/familyman357/media/ohyoureinthearmy_zpsa695f369.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c397/familyman357/ohyoureinthearmy_zpsa695f369.jpg</a> Shall I tell you the story of the two Marines that beat up a hooker then set her car on fire? Seems there was a payment dispute.
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:20:51 AM EDT
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I just told him what he wanted me to do violates the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. He was very agitated with me. His mind had shut down to being reasoned with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arrest on a hunch? Lol, no. Tresspass private property to investigate said hunch? He needs more than that. Kick in a door based on his known credibility and basis of knowledge? Not unless you have enough to get a warrant and can define some clear exigency. Please tell me you went into detail with him. I just told him what he wanted me to do violates the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. He was very agitated with me. His mind had shut down to being reasoned with. You blew it. You had a prime opportunity to eek out one of those, "no shit, there I was on the FOB..." stories. Now, you'll never hear about the origins of that BSM 
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Posted: 3/10/2015 10:22:56 AM EDT
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He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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..orders from them. Details? How/what civil rights did he want you to violate? He wanted me to arrest people based only on his suspicions no proof of wrong doing, trespass on private property and kick in peoples doors because he believes they are smoking weed. In Arizona that is just good proactive police work. |
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