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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:48:07 PM EDT
[#1]
What ever fits his hand and he’s comfortable with. May be a glock, May be something else.
Glock doesn’t fit my grip, but a CZ does. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:48:49 PM EDT
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VP9SK or P30SK if the gun must serve CCW and home protect duty.
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Posted: 7/12/2018 2:57:12 PM EDT
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M&P 9 compact |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:00:29 PM EDT
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If it were just for home and car, I'd say Glock 19. Since it will also be a CC piece, I'm going to say Glock 43 with +2 mags.
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:20:16 PM EDT
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Home defense and concealed carry are different jobs that necessitate different tools for most people.
Guns like the G19, M&P 9c, P-10c, etc are an odd compromise that is less than ideal. These guns are too large for most people to CC every day, and they make compromises on things like capacity, sight radius, and recoil. A $1k budget easily allows the purchase of two different firearms that are more appropriate for the jobs in question. For CCW, I would suggest options like the G42/G43, Shield, or even a LCR/J-frame because a gun someone actually carries is better than one they leave on the nightstand. For HD, I would suggest an AR or PCC of some form. If it has to be a handgun for some reason, I'd suggest the G34/17, the Beretta 92, Walther PPQ, CZ SP-01 etc. Something full size and full capacity with a rail and a good sight radius. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:24:05 PM EDT
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For $1000, G19 and a G43.
Or as another poster said, a G19 and an AR. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:33:05 PM EDT
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I think everyone will agree that 9mm is the way to go. With the budget of $1K, any of the following would then be acceptable:
Glock 17/19 (I'd also allow a 26, if he likes subcompact; it's certainly the most reliable of the subs). Smith M&P, either full or compact. Beretta 92 SIG P2022, P226 or P228 (no P320 until we KNOW the bugs are worked out). CZ P-07, P-09, or any of the 75 variety. I think each of the above is about equal in quality, and I'd trust them to provide a lifetime of workhorse service. Let him pick whichever feels best in his hand. I wouldn't sniff if he picked out a Ruger, HK, or Walther, either. And while I wouldn't recommend a revolver, I'd allow a Smith or Ruger in .357 if he's in love with wheelguns. No Taurus, no XD, no ridiculous D Eagle or some other equivalent. Then I'd recommend a good holster, 1000 rounds of FMJ, 100 rounds of quality JHP, and a good handgun/CCW class. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:39:57 PM EDT
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G19X
APLc TR IWB holster Federal HST 147gr +P For the budget, that is a capable concealable handgun, holster, sufficient mags, and good ammo.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:53:44 PM EDT
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Keep saving his money until he triples his budget, because he's gonna need a quality holster, quality belt, lots of ammo, a range membership, and several courses with competent instructors. Then Glock, M&P, H&K, or Kahr. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:54:58 PM EDT
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P30, SK if small size counts, L if size doesn't matter. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:55:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't waste money on a Glock. It's a shit gun for the price. You're paying for the brand, not the features. You're getting less and worse features than comparative handguns from other companies.   Say What?!
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:58:08 PM EDT
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Glock 19. /thread. ETA: You also can't go wrong with an H&K hammer-fired gun, such as the P30, but you need the light LEM trigger. DA/SA is bad. I mostly carry LEM H&K's these days, but for a newb the simplicity of the Glock is strong. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 3:59:04 PM EDT
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Friday Cabelas advert for P365 at $599 for the gun, an iwb holster, a 12 round mag, and a couple of boxes of ammo, hp and ball. Good deal. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:00:33 PM EDT
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Glock 19. /thread. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:01:32 PM EDT
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OP knew this before he posted. I might suggest the new 19X, which looks pretty sweet, and I like the bigger grip. Can't go wrong with a G19 for a newb. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glock 19. /thread. 
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:02:33 PM EDT
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Whatever firearm he gets MAKE SURE he gets a very high quality belt and holster. Nothing turns a person off to daily carrying more than an inadequate belt and holster. He needs to get comfortable with the daily routine of putting a gun on, not printing, and especially not having your pants sag or fall down always pulling them up and tucking in all the while being on edge because hes carrying. A quality rig minimizes these things and makes it become 2nd nature when getting dressed. I like CZ and Sig but he should get what HE feels comfortable and confident with. This might not be the most expensive option but don't skimp out on the belt and holster. I like Looper and Beltman belts and crossbreed and Mtac holsters, but this too is a rather personalized decision... Next, you both need to get to a local pistol shoot. USPSA, IDPA - it does not matter which. Use your carry guns and GET SOME PRACTICE drawing and shooting quickly. Defensive shootings unfold very quickly. Are you ready? |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:04:54 PM EDT
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Just about any double stack "compact" handgun will do. Tell your buddy to go finger fuck everything at the gun store not labeled "Taurus" and buy the one that fits his hand
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:05:15 PM EDT
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Glock 19. /thread. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:15:03 PM EDT
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Ruger LCP for carry, shotgun for home defense.
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:20:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can someone fill me in on the 19X? I don't see the appeal. The grip is the hardest part to conceal, not the barrel. Longer barrel provides better sight radius. Why wouldn't I just carry a G19 with a 17 mag or better yet, carry a G17? Flame on little Johnny. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:23:59 PM EDT
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HK USP compact
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:28:03 PM EDT
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Glock 19. /thread. Get a Glock 19 first. If the grip is too big to conceal, then maybe a Glock 26 later. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:28:56 PM EDT
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HK USP compact |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:37:11 PM EDT
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Glock 19.
CZ P-10, P-01, or P-07. Whatever floats his boat. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:40:17 PM EDT
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Glock 19. /thread. Quoted:
Glock 19 and spend the rest of the $1K on practice ammo and training. Brownells for agent sights. Good Medicine (member here on the ee)for kydex Rest to sg ammo |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 4:57:43 PM EDT
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G19, then pick up a holster and swap out the sights to something better.
Use the rest on ammo and range time /thread |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:01:48 PM EDT
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Beretta M9A1
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:07:28 PM EDT
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G43 and a G19/17... whichever fits his hand better.
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:52:39 PM EDT
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This is the answer. Brownells for agent sights. Good Medicine (member here on the ee)for kydex Rest to sg ammo Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glock 19. /thread. Quoted:
Glock 19 and spend the rest of the $1K on practice ammo and training. Brownells for agent sights. Good Medicine (member here on the ee)for kydex Rest to sg ammo |
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