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Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:05:19 PM EDT
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DUH    Get your head out of the sand
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:06:21 PM EDT
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Hillary would make Boss Tweed blush with shame in Tammany Hall
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:08:09 PM EDT
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That is irrelevant. The OP is trying to make a comparative claim against other administrations but no one has provided any way of measuring that claim. Its analytically retarded.

I thought conservatives were supposed to be analytical,but all I am seeing here is anecdotal evidence and feelings.
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Fast and Furious, IRS scandal, email scandal.


That is not a metric. Those are just examples.


What other administration did anything like run guns to drug cartels or use the IRS as a weapon against citizens and get away with it?


That is irrelevant. The OP is trying to make a comparative claim against other administrations but no one has provided any way of measuring that claim. Its analytically retarded.

I thought conservatives were supposed to be analytical,but all I am seeing here is anecdotal evidence and feelings.





Hillary lover
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:09:46 PM EDT
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Importing mass waves of illegals from Mexico and radical muslim nations.
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:10:55 PM EDT
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Banana Republic
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:12:12 PM EDT
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ALL things considered (assuming you value things like freedom, honesty, etc.) this is the most evil regime in the history of man.  Of course we started with more than any civilization and soon will have willingly given it away.
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:14:01 PM EDT
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Absolutely!!

Chelsea after 8 years of Hillary......

Chelsea will run for the senate in '18 ,serve 1 term,run for Pres in '24

Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:14:50 PM EDT
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Chelsea after 8 years of Hillary......

Chelsea will run for the senate in '18 ,serve 1 term,run for Pres in '24

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Absolutely!!

Chelsea after 8 years of Hillary......

Chelsea will run for the senate in '18 ,serve 1 term,run for Pres in '24



I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:15:48 PM EDT
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Better start taking care of your business
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:21:43 PM EDT
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Nope this one makes NIXON look like saints


Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:25:04 PM EDT
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I'm beginning to think that the Obama admin is using the NSA to blackmail everyone.   It's the only reasonable explanation for so much corrupt and morally bankrupts things going on lately.
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:41:23 PM EDT
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Of course. Both Clinton and Reagan make the Obama crew look like girl scouts. In fact the real (rather than talk radio) world, Obama's administration has been one of the least corrupt in recent decades -- and his big "scandal" involves (surprise surprise) Clinton. In the real world Obama hasn't really done much of anything other than continuing wars and programs and spending levels started by previous administrations. The GOP has been watching the guy through a microscope and they have nothing. Not even any good specific allegations. They're left sputtering out vague innuendo and harping on his middle name and his apparent preference for rap music.

I am certainly no Obama fan. I disagree with him policy wise virtually across the board. But the guy inherited an economy in complete horror mode collapse plus CBO projected 1.3 trillion per year deficits going forward indefinately, and he managed to not make things worse. The irrational hatred of Obama does not help win supporters to our side, it just makes us look silly.
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:46:31 PM EDT
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Yep Obama laid the foundation and she will build heavily on that, they have America back peddling on the ropes, she knows it, she will go in for the kill, it will be ugly.
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:49:35 PM EDT
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Lincoln did whatever the fuck he wanted, killed a million Americans, and totally trashed the Constitution.  That's gonna be hard to beat.
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 5:50:06 PM EDT
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Of course. Both Clinton and Reagan make the Obama crew look like girl scouts. In fact the real (rather than talk radio) world, Obama's administration has been one of the least corrupt in recent decades -- and his big "scandal" involves (surprise surprise) Clinton. In the real world Obama hasn't really done much of anything other than continuing wars and programs and spending levels started by previous administrations. The GOP has been watching the guy through a microscope and they have nothing. Not even any good specific allegations. They're left sputtering out vague innuendo and harping on his middle name and his apparent preference for rap music.

I am certainly no Obama fan.
I disagree with him policy wise virtually across the board. But the guy inherited an economy in complete horror mode collapse plus CBO projected 1.3 trillion per year deficits going forward indefinately, and he managed to not make things worse. The irrational hatred of Obama does not help win supporters to our side, it just makes us look silly.
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Sure, sure.   We all believe you so much.
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 7:14:14 PM EDT
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Of course. Both Clinton and Reagan make the Obama crew look like girl scouts. In fact the real (rather than talk radio) world, Obama's administration has been one of the least corrupt in recent decades -- and his big "scandal" involves (surprise surprise) Clinton. In the real world Obama hasn't really done much of anything other than continuing wars and programs and spending levels started by previous administrations. The GOP has been watching the guy through a microscope and they have nothing. Not even any good specific allegations. They're left sputtering out vague innuendo and harping on his middle name and his apparent preference for rap music.

I am certainly no Obama fan. I disagree with him policy wise virtually across the board. But the guy inherited an economy in complete horror mode collapse plus CBO projected 1.3 trillion per year deficits going forward indefinately, and he managed to not make things worse. The irrational hatred of Obama does not help win supporters to our side, it just makes us look silly.
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Iran-Contra anyone?  The R's have been far worse in the modern era when you figure the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Too Big to Fail.  Obama has been as ineffective as Carter but he corruption isn't his big failing.
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 7:15:34 PM EDT
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Lincoln did whatever the fuck he wanted, killed a million Americans, and totally trashed the Constitution.  That's gonna be hard to beat.
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Lincoln started the war that yall are still butthurt about?  Who fired on Fort Sumter?
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 7:17:14 PM EDT
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Yup, grit your teeth boys, she is going in dry
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Link Posted: 7/5/2016 9:40:19 PM EDT
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FIFY
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 9:41:27 PM EDT
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Hillary is going to make Obama look like a Hawaiian tshirt dealer.

Even democrats know what you are talking about if you start mentioning corruption or cunt
Link Posted: 7/5/2016 10:31:15 PM EDT
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Start back @ 8 years ago when they borrowed how much from the Chinese; then came up with the bright plan for social development and jobs.
Where did all that money go?  No one can account for it?
GOP sits on their hands and looks on.  Despite their constituents requests.
They're all corrupt; from the top down.  
Getting time to hit the reset button.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 12:34:27 AM EDT
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DUH    Get your head out of the sand


That is not a metric. Try again.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 12:35:52 AM EDT
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How so?

Link Posted: 7/6/2016 12:37:11 AM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 12:41:20 AM EDT
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Most transparent administration ever?  No?
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 9:29:19 AM EDT
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Cash for clunkers.  Now that was a scam.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 9:42:39 AM EDT
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Do you even Patriot Act, bro?

Not to mention all the oil and defense money flying around when he went to Iraq to finish Daddy's War.
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Dicky and the shrub. They ran rampant over the constitution pretty much every day they were in office.


LOL, not at all.



Do you even Patriot Act, bro?

Not to mention all the oil and defense money flying around when he went to Iraq to finish Daddy's War.


Don't forget meddling with the housing market and Medicare Part D
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:05:30 AM EDT
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Possibly, but now they can get in your face more so you will notice it more.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:05:40 AM EDT
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Jackson was pretty bad.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:09:08 AM EDT
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The clintons started that with carnivore(?)
Some here probably recall the cell phone conversation between a couple republican congressmen back in the 1990s, that the main stream media tried to pass off as having been recorded (pro quality clarity) by a retired couple (martins) sitting in their car somewhere in Florida, using a handheld police scanner.   And they said they had an old cassette tape recorder, and once they realized who was talking, they hit record so they could pass it on to their grandchild as a moment in history.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:11:27 AM EDT
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Their Corruption is Transparent. If any admin was more corrupt, they were less transparent about it.

ACORN voter fraud.
DOJ cover up.
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.
DOJ coverup.
IRS targeting of political opponents.
DOJ cover up.
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:13:37 AM EDT
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Iran-Contra anyone?  The R's have been far worse in the modern era when you figure the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Too Big to Fail.  Obama has been as ineffective as Carter but he corruption isn't his big failing.
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Of course. Both Clinton and Reagan make the Obama crew look like girl scouts. In fact the real (rather than talk radio) world, Obama's administration has been one of the least corrupt in recent decades -- and his big "scandal" involves (surprise surprise) Clinton. In the real world Obama hasn't really done much of anything other than continuing wars and programs and spending levels started by previous administrations. The GOP has been watching the guy through a microscope and they have nothing. Not even any good specific allegations. They're left sputtering out vague innuendo and harping on his middle name and his apparent preference for rap music.

I am certainly no Obama fan. I disagree with him policy wise virtually across the board. But the guy inherited an economy in complete horror mode collapse plus CBO projected 1.3 trillion per year deficits going forward indefinately, and he managed to not make things worse. The irrational hatred of Obama does not help win supporters to our side, it just makes us look silly.

Iran-Contra anyone?  The R's have been far worse in the modern era when you figure the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Too Big to Fail.  Obama has been as ineffective as Carter but he corruption isn't his big failing.


You need to go back to the books and find out what Iran-Contra really was.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:15:22 AM EDT
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Of course. Both Clinton and Reagan make the Obama crew look like girl scouts. In fact the real (rather than talk radio) world, Obama's administration has been one of the least corrupt in recent decades -- and his big "scandal" involves (surprise surprise) Clinton.
I am certainly no Obama fan. I disagree with him policy wise virtually across the board. But the guy inherited an economy in complete horror mode collapse plus CBO projected 1.3 trillion per year deficits going forward indefinately, and he managed to not make things worse. The irrational hatred of Obama does not help win supporters to our side, it just makes us look silly.
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Does MoveOn dot org pay for your membership?
Because everything you typed was such tremendous horseshit and lies.   Or you are delusional and would appear to be a threat to others as well as yourself.
There is nothing irrational about hatred of or despising communists.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:17:13 AM EDT
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Hillary's administration is going to make Obama's look like amateur hour when it comes to corruption.  She and Bill have had 16 years to sit back and scheme how they would do it a second time around.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:19:46 AM EDT
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Depends on which party you associate with.
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I'am with you OP. Never in the history of this Great Country. The lying muslum bastard....Said he would have the most open and transparent administration ever. Since it's OK for Mu-slums to lie too Christians on behalf of satan. I have always felt that ever word out of his mounth was a deceitful lie. And the hildabeast is his prize student...
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:25:05 AM EDT
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Their Corruption is Transparent. If any admin was more corrupt, they were less transparent about it.

ACORN voter fraud.
DOJ cover up.
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.
DOJ coverup.
IRS targeting of political opponents.
DOJ cover up.



This country is the babiloyn of prophecy. Thanks for reminding all of us. Of the most corrupt goverment in our nations history...
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.
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Their Corruption is Transparent. If any admin was more corrupt, they were less transparent about it.

ACORN voter fraud.
DOJ cover up.
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.
DOJ coverup.
IRS targeting of political opponents.
DOJ cover up.



This country is the babiloyn of prophecy. Thanks for reminding all of us. Of the most corrupt goverment in our nations history...
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

Link Posted: 7/6/2016 10:32:47 AM EDT
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sorry FDRs pack the court stunt makes this stuff seem pretty mild
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 11:49:08 AM EDT
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Can you picture her snickering to herself over getting away with it.
Link Posted: 7/6/2016 12:09:34 PM EDT
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Ulysses S. Grant ran a pretty loose ship.  Link To Scandals
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That is not a metric. Try again.
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DUH    Get your head out of the sand


That is not a metric. Try again.



What makes you think you are so important that you get to decide what is valid and what isn't?  No one gives a fuck about your semantics.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 12:07:38 AM EDT
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Wait a minute!  Bill Clinton said he was one of our greatest presidents!
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 12:10:00 AM EDT
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fpni
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What makes you think you are so important that you get to decide what is valid and what isn't? Uhhh, logic and being able to prove one's point determines what is valid. Should we not be logical? No one gives a fuck about your semantics.
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That is not a metric. Try again.



What makes you think you are so important that you get to decide what is valid and what isn't? Uhhh, logic and being able to prove one's point determines what is valid. Should we not be logical? No one gives a fuck about your semantics.




And we wonder why the left succeeds, when so many "conservatives" can't present a logical argument.  
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 12:23:34 AM EDT
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Let's start a list:  

ACORN voter fraud.  
DOJ cover up.  
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.  
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.  
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.  
DOJ coverup.  
IRS targeting of political opponents.  
DOJ cover up.  
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.  
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

What am I forgetting?
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Let's start a list:  

ACORN voter fraud.  
DOJ cover up.  
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.  
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.  
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.  
DOJ coverup.  
IRS targeting of political opponents.  
DOJ cover up.  
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.  
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

What am I forgetting?


OBAMACARE
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 11:04:24 AM EDT
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What makes you think you are so important that you get to decide what is valid and what isn't?  No one gives a fuck about your semantics.
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DUH    Get your head out of the sand


That is not a metric. Try again.



What makes you think you are so important that you get to decide what is valid and what isn't?  No one gives a fuck about your semantics.



BAM
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 11:22:26 AM EDT
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I hear some colleges actually offer classes on US political history. One item that comes to mind is Lincoln's quote that the only thing one of his cabinet members would not steal was a red hot stove.

But don't let that stop you from the fun of foaming at the mouth about whatever. Learning history sucks.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 11:33:44 AM EDT
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Depends. We don't know what wasn't discovered in any administration. By what is known the current administration is the most corrupt. They won't likely hold the record for long if Hitlery gets in.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 12:30:21 PM EDT
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BAM
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DUH    Get your head out of the sand


That is not a metric. Try again.



What makes you think you are so important that you get to decide what is valid and what isn't?  No one gives a fuck about your semantics.



BAM


So you don't have an answer?
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 12:36:49 PM EDT
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Not yet but it could be coming
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