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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:49:59 AM EDT
[#1]
Haven't needed the police in over 6 decades of life.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:50:53 AM EDT
[#2]
Nope
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:51:30 AM EDT
[#3]
Friend of mine had a neighbor go insane and shoot her other neighbors as she watched out the window. Police used dogs to track back to the rifle he dumped in the woods and then back to him where he sat giggling on the porch. Thankfully he gave up on his plan to kill all the neighbors after shooting the first couple.
The police were nice to have around. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:51:44 AM EDT
[#4]
Not really. The only thing they have ever "helped" me with is insurance paperwork (their report) for auto accidents etc....
I don't need them. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:53:42 AM EDT
[#5]
"Needed"? No.
If anything police get in the way of problems being dealt with. Not bashing LEO in any way, just a fact that some people I know still breath only because the police would get uppity if that changes. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:54:01 AM EDT
[#6]
I've made some calls to lodge noise complaints - the party did eventually quiet down, but no clue if there was any visit from the PD.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:55:49 AM EDT
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no, only time i need help was years ago when my appartment was robbed. they showed up an hour later and refused to call in state cops. i wanted prints or something done (guns and meds stolen), they didnt give a shit. i told them they better hope they never encounter any guns that were stolen cause they would be outgunned big time. the only thing cops have ever done for me is cost me time and money (not bashing cops)
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:56:58 AM EDT
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Not really. The only thing they have ever "helped" me with is insurance paperwork (their report) for auto accidents etc.... I don't need them. Even the time I served...the only time I felt like I was doing anything valuable was when I was investigating fraud and getting money back for helpless people who had been scammed. My time spent chasing tail lights and enforcing other people's moralities was wasted and all for naught. 
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:59:19 AM EDT
[#9]
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Friend of mine had a neighbor go insane and shoot her other neighbors as she watched out the window. Police used dogs to track back to the rifle he dumped in the woods and then back to him where he sat giggling on the porch. Thankfully he gave up on his plan to kill all the neighbors after shooting the first couple. The police were nice to have around. I probably would have handled that issue myself if it was my family member who was murdered. And more importantly, most situations don't "just happen out of nowhere". There are always signs and red flags that people CHOOSE to ignore and things then escalate into "problems" Sad it happened, but I would be dollars to donuts that it was a situation where some intelligent intervention by family and mental health professionals could have headed off before it became a law enforcement issue. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:59:20 AM EDT
[#10]
I was gifted a small equipment trailer from a relative that came without a registration. By law I needed a local leo to check it out and sign off that it wasn't stolen before I could apply to register it. So yes I guess he helped me.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:59:35 AM EDT
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I have been on this planet 52 years, as an adult on my own for ~34 years. I have lived in poor neighborhoods and middle class neighborhoods. I have worked some pretty rough trades that typically employ felons and Ne'er-do-well's. I have had things stolen from me, been in some scuffles, been "cheated" in business and have had lots of other "annoying" things happen in my life. But I have always worked out the problem to my satisfaction for myself to a conclusion that suited me. Never once have I thought "I need someone else to come and straighten out my mess for me". Exact same here, word for word. Although I am glad they are there. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:00:05 AM EDT
[#12]
Two break-ins in last 23 years and one trespasser.
Also all my guns that we're stolen got returned in 95% shape. Last break in, nothing was stolen and had him on video. He was caught a hour later pawning my neighbors stuff because I called and gave them pictures and video. Trespasser was a pedo, he was jailed for looking into kids windows two days later. So yes it does work out for the better, but it required police that want to do their jobs and homeowners who want the same. I did have a few poachers when I lived on 217 acres. They were caught but that was the game warden. Nice GW also, he helps people pull deer and hogs out of the woods when he can since people tend to help him if it's needed. I met him when he got stuck, I pulled him out with my cucv and he was quite grateful. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:04:23 AM EDT
[#13]
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I could have filed the report via website and printed a copy. Even the time I served...the only time I felt like I was doing anything valuable was when I was investigating fraud and getting money back for helpless people who had been scammed. My time spent chasing tail lights and enforcing other people's moralities was wasted and all for naught. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not really. The only thing they have ever "helped" me with is insurance paperwork (their report) for auto accidents etc.... I don't need them. Even the time I served...the only time I felt like I was doing anything valuable was when I was investigating fraud and getting money back for helpless people who had been scammed. My time spent chasing tail lights and enforcing other people's moralities was wasted and all for naught.  .
The rest, though? Wrangling tweakers, joyriding teens, Billies making grain alcohol, and other assorted tards? Kinda felt like groundhog day. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:04:37 AM EDT
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Did they "fix" anything, or just record what happened and then take the guy into custody? I probably would have handled that issue myself if it was my family member who was murdered. And more importantly, most situations don't "just happen out of nowhere". There are always signs and red flags that people CHOOSE to ignore and things then escalate into "problems" Sad it happened, but I would be dollars to donuts that it was a situation where some intelligent intervention by family and mental health professionals could have headed off before it became a law enforcement issue. Vigilantism has it's issues, I prefer a system that uses a jury and preponderance of the evidence. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:05:31 AM EDT
[#15]
well you do have to think about getting yourself arrested or sued for handling things yourself
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:09:16 AM EDT
[#16]
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well you do have to think about getting yourself arrested or sued for handling things yourself |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:13:32 AM EDT
[#17]
Yup. I had to call them from my neighbors place (my ex took my phone) when my ex went nutso on the morning that I kicked off the divorce (date of separation).
To be honest...I don't know what was worse...the feeling that I was about to get raked over the coals with the divorce or the embarrassment at having to call the police to my house. I don't like having to make a scene over anything (I'm quiet and tend to keep to myself), so having my train wreck of a marriage spill out for the world to see wasn't cool. On the bright side though...the ex delivered that morning and killed off any doubts that she may have planted... as to whether or not I was doing the right thing by leaving her. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:16:22 AM EDT
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You don't call the police because you need them to protect you, you call them because if you're forced to defend yourself and you HAVEN'T called them, it's going to look bad for you.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:18:13 AM EDT
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Haven't needed the police in over 6 decades of life. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:18:23 AM EDT
[#20]
They took my fingerprints on an official card for me to submit with my concealed weapons permit 20 or so years ago.
They've taken reports the few times my car has been broken into over the years, and had a forensic guy take fingerprints once when they hit a lot of the neighborhood. But I suspect that was the end of it as far as an "investigation" went, and they certainly never solved the crimes. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:18:35 AM EDT
[#21]
No but they do seem to be there when I don't need them
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:19:33 AM EDT
[#22]
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They took my fingerprints on an official card for me to submit with my concealed weapons permit 20 or so years ago. They've taken reports the few times my car has been broken into over the years, and had a forensic guy take fingerprints once when they hit a lot of the neighborhood. But I suspect that was the end of it as far as an "investigation" went, and they certainly never solved the crimes. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:20:48 AM EDT
[#23]
Thankfully, no. I'm glad they're there, but I hope to never need them. Kind of like my ccw.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:21:34 AM EDT
[#24]
Boy it would sure be nice if people could fix their own problem. No one wants to talk to their neighbors about stuff. Just call the police. Yea, because calling the police on your neighbor really fosters that relationship.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:22:32 AM EDT
[#25]
I’ve needed them to take reports of theft for insurance. I’ve never called them to come “save me”.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:23:13 AM EDT
[#26]
Thankfully no.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:23:15 AM EDT
[#27]
Isn't this just a variation on the question just presented
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/When-s-the-last-time-you-called-the-police-For-what-/5-2033163/ Quoted:
Did they "fix" anything, or just record what happened and then take the guy into custody? I probably would have handled that issue myself if it was my family member who was murdered. And more importantly, most situations don't "just happen out of nowhere". There are always signs and red flags that people CHOOSE to ignore and things then escalate into "problems" Sad it happened, but I would be dollars to donuts that it was a situation where some intelligent intervention by family and mental health professionals could have headed off before it became a law enforcement issue. There is a totally inadequate mental health system here in the nation. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:26:07 AM EDT
[#28]
Nope.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:34:09 AM EDT
[#29]
The LE I have talked to have agreed with me my shotgun will get there faster than them.
Ive needed cops to file stalking report, which was very important. Also reminded me to get an inspection (ticket). Also for noise ... 4am on Sunday. Id do it myself but the chance of getting in a fight is highish and I would be blamed for not calling police. It seems LEs arent allowed to do their jobs a lot of the time.. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:35:34 AM EDT
[#30]
had my truck broken into once. had a truck stolen once. had someone attempt to break into my house twice. they got in the third time.
every single time: call cops, they show, look around ask what is missing, write stuff down, tell me they wont find anything. never take prints, never take pictures, they did find the truck since it was left in an intersection a few miles away, and they actually caught the robbery guy since him and his girl were super dumb. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:37:33 AM EDT
[#31]
Do you need the police? Yes, every day.
The fact that I don't need to call them means that they are doing their job in keeping my area and community safe. Just because you don't need them on a personal level doesn't mean that behind the scenes you very much need them around. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:41:40 AM EDT
[#32]
Depends on how you define need.
Like when you have someone on your property actively stealing shit, one of your female employees catches him in the act, calls the police and no one shows up. And when you show up with your gun and your family won't let you go in because the police are coming, but they don't show up for 2 hours after the first call and can't find the guy? By the time they got there, I didn't NEED them anymore. Or when there is someone shooting in front of your business in the city, but you can't see them, you call the cops several times because the shooting goes on for like 15 minutes and 911 is telling you not to go outside. Then 40 minutes later when the cops show up, they don't find anyone but ask if you know why the windows are knocked out of a car parked in front of your business. I didn't NEED them anymore either. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:43:14 AM EDT
[#33]
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But I have always worked out the problem to my satisfaction for myself to a conclusion that suited me. Never once have I thought "I need someone else to come and straighten out my mess for me". As a LEO 98%... So...you're a LEO? ...Isn't this thread a bit...um...hypocritical? Sort of like: "I never once called a plumber to fix anything in my house. I always worked out the problem to my satisfaction for myself to a conclusion that suited me." "Never once have I thought 'I need someone else to come and straighten out my pipes for me'." As a plumber...: |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:45:17 AM EDT
[#34]
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Do you need the police? Yes, every day. The fact that I don't need to call them means that they are doing their job in keeping my area and community safe. Just because you don't need them on a personal level doesn't mean that behind the scenes you very much need them around. 
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:46:30 AM EDT
[#35]
When I was a rookie I needed the cop I was partnered with to help me after I got smashed in the face and almost lost my eye. Unfortunately he froze and did nothing.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:47:10 AM EDT
[#36]
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I’ve needed them to take reports of theft for insurance. I’ve never called them to come “save me”. The police do serve a practical purpose of filing/maintaining records. Sometimes they 'solve' a crime. But mostly they make folks 'feel' better that someone is there to hold their hand. Kinda like going to the trailer park with my FTO back in the late 80's. Crazy Alice would call every other month that someone had broken in her precious single wide and stolen her virginity. Alice was 80 y.o., wore the same nightgown, all day, every day......nobody wanted 'that'. But we dusted for prints and looked around....she felt better. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:48:11 AM EDT
[#37]
was robbed at knife point in Seattle by two enterprising youths. because of it being Seattle and that I had to fly there, I was unarmed. I called 911 after giving them my money.
first time I've ever called / needed the police for myself. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:48:11 AM EDT
[#38]
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When I was a rookie I needed the cop I was partnered with to help me after I got smashed in the face and almost lost my eye. Unfortunately he froze and did nothing. 
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:49:15 AM EDT
[#39]
Yes, once.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:50:24 AM EDT
[#40]
I have been in LE since 1992. I have called the police a couple of times to handle a situation when someone needed to go to jail. Once was a drunk driver who was running people off the road (including me) another was when some asshole assaulted my teenage son because she didn't like that he and his friends were laughing at an outdoor school party at a park.
99% of my time is dedicated to dealing with some prick who is committing a serious violation of law. Human trafficking, child exploitation (child porn, travel to engage in sex with minors), smuggling restricted military items, alien smuggling, financial crimes. Yes, I am weary of dealing with them, especially the pedophiles. But, the reason I keep it up is because there is usually a victim involved who did nothing to deserve what happened to them. It is easy to become jaded as an LEO. It is important that an LEO not give in to that impulse. It will invariably cause problems for the officer and decrease the effectiveness of the officer in dealing with the public as well as putting criminals in jail. I don't mind helping victims who need my help. It is why I stay in the profession. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:50:34 AM EDT
[#41]
459 in progress. I couldn't stop them (they were in a truck and I was on foot). As I turned to run to a pay phone (pre cell phone days), a marked unit happened to be driving up the street. Flagged them down and they nabbed the culprits. The male was out on bail for burglary (459 PC) of a construction site and his female companion was never arrested before. As part of the plea of guilty, D.A. dropped the charges against her.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:52:39 AM EDT
[#42]
42 years and counting, and 'no'. Up to this point, more harm than good.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:56:54 AM EDT
[#43]
Yeah sure. Most recently, had uninvited guests on my place who didnt heed the first verbal warning and got trespassed. The problem may not be permanently solved, but the next event will result in an arrest. Before that, burglary suspect pulled up the yard. Dog spooked him. I called it in. Deputies caught up to him a few miles away. Turns out he was linked to a whole slew of crimes. Hitting people's houses while they were at church. (We were running late that day
 Baptist FTW) Both times, I didnt have to do anything except dial the phone.
Considering the portion of my property tax that is allotted for LE, having that service on tap is worth it. Traffic and drug enforcement add no real value for me, however, and I would like to see those costs reduced in the future. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:58:10 AM EDT
[#44]
Got robbed at gunpoint by 4 youths. After they drove off I sorta felt like I should involve the police. All 4 are now in prison.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:59:12 AM EDT
[#45]
I live a pretty boring life, so the only thing I've needed them for are a couple of accident reports and fingerprinting for my CCW license. I did call once to report an erratic driver, but that's not exactly a "need."
I guess that's a good thing. Gives them more time to deal with dipshits, lowlifes, and scumbags. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:59:24 AM EDT
[#46]
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Sorry but that's kinda funny. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When I was a rookie I needed the cop I was partnered with to help me after I got smashed in the face and almost lost my eye. Unfortunately he froze and did nothing. 
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:00:11 AM EDT
[#47]
Hit and run accident I followed the guy running, the cops saw where I was going tracking my cell phone... lead them right there.. totally blasted out of his mind drunk.
Another time I was following a drunk driver cops caught up to me went around me and tried to pull the guy over he wrecked his truck trying to negotiate a 90 degree turn at like 40 miles an hour.... |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:04:40 AM EDT
[#48]
No. I can take out my own trash.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:06:25 AM EDT
[#49]
Nope
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:13:55 AM EDT
[#50]
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I have been on this planet 52 years, as an adult on my own for ~34 years. I have lived in poor neighborhoods and middle class neighborhoods. I have worked some pretty rough trades that typically employ felons and Ne'er-do-well's. I have had things stolen from me, been in some scuffles, been "cheated" in business and have had lots of other "annoying" things happen in my life. But I have always worked out the problem to my satisfaction for myself to a conclusion that suited me. Never once have I thought "I need someone else to come and straighten out my mess for me". As a LEO 98% of the calls I go to are problems people have either created for themselves and are now in over their simple heads, or they are problems for which I will never be able to "fix" for them. Sure I write their problems down in a report, it gets filed in the "warehouse of statistics" and then life goes on. Sure, once in a great while a piece of stolen property is returned, or a shit head gets arrested. But typically that stolen property is either damaged beyond usefulness, insurance has already paid out for it and the property is seized, and the shit head is back out of jail or prison to commit more shitbaggery. So I was just wondering how many ARFCOMMER's have ever "needed" someone else to come and solve their problems for them? 'Need' vs what? If I take care of the neighbors who insisted that screaming obscenities at the top of their lungs at all hours of day & night then, regardless of how carefully I handled it, the police would have come after me. They made a nuisance of themselves and refused to talk to me about it. Rather than end up in the pokey myself I simply called the police every time the husband stood outside screaming obscenities at the top of his lungs. It was eventually a self-correcting problem once they annoyed the sheriff and state police enough (we lived on the edge of the county, either might respond). The occasional report of stolen things, accident reports. Things which the law says that you should do regardless of whether I 'need' the police involved. Personal issues such as children who refuse to behave or such I have never needed them for. |
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