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Link Posted: 9/23/2017 7:22:34 AM EDT
[#1]
robbed at gunpoint at age 14, me and a buddy, of our mopeds, so yes, we called the cops, this was 1979 I guess, so yeah, I called the cops once.
Link Posted: 9/23/2017 7:31:38 AM EDT
[#2]
I called them when my wife's stalker decided to come into our home after he finished masturbating in our back yard and called me on the intercom to tell me about it. also when a prisoner tried to extort money from me and started making threats to send someone over to my home to collect, best part of that was the deputy was writing his report while the idiot was on speaker phone via his butt phone and I kept asking him to repeat his threats by saying " could you repeat that? we must have a shitty connection or you are on a shitty phone". the look on the deputy's face was priceless as he was trying to control his laughter  
Link Posted: 9/23/2017 7:57:05 AM EDT
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42yrs

Old house 2 calls

1 for drunks entering front door ( were off by 2 house's ) and shady fucks walking thru neighborhood knocking on random doors ( got a I didn't do nuffin when I asked them wtf )


Current house Ive called them 5 time's this year

4 cause of idiots on my street ( daughters have a fuck trophy collection ) cause of fighting and yelling at oh say 2am to 4am and 1 call when they hit my Explorer . neighbor saw it happen but since they couldn't id the driver nothing got done but the people that hit it ( super trash ) haven't been back on my street since



Fun fun fun



I need a GSD to teach my lab to be a bigger asshole
Link Posted: 9/23/2017 8:09:06 AM EDT
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When I was a rookie I needed the cop I was partnered with to help me after I got smashed in the face and almost lost my eye. Unfortunately he froze and did nothing.
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"I'm right behind you, man.  Like, literally, I'm behind you so I don't get hurt."
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 2:13:22 AM EDT
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Kinda sorta. I just see things from my perspective dealing with people that generally cause their own problems. The people that I never have to deal with, never need the police.

They don't hang around other shitbags.

They work hard and earn enough money to live in better places.

They associate with people who aren't shitbags (yes, I said that twice because it's pretty important)

They have enough money to insure their stuff that usually gets stolen by shitbags and thus are made whole without too much inconvenience.

They protect their property with good security and don't generally have too many issues with that anyway.

They pay their bills and are on good terms with the merchants and services they use.

They work out disputs with other people in a cordial and intelligent manner themselves.

So I guess I was just wishing more people were like that, and just wondering if there were more like that here.
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I got you.  

I guess the only times I've had need to call the police (three times) was because shitbags invaded my world, so I guess I'm good.  I agree with everything above.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 3:33:08 AM EDT
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Maybe that's more of a reflection on a specific agency, or even the people you choose to associate with.....
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Most of the people I know have had bad experiences with them. Most of them do not dislike cops, but they have had bad experiences nonetheless.
Maybe that's more of a reflection on a specific agency, or even the people you choose to associate with.....
Perhaps so. I do tend to associate mostly with people who are not blind sheep, and don't like to be fucked in the ass by JBTs. Peasants mostly.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 3:47:51 AM EDT
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Perhaps so. I do tend to associate mostly with people who are not blind sheep, and don't like to be fucked in the ass by JBTs. Peasants mostly.
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If they're having frequent contacts with police, they tend to have some issues. If you associate with people who have issues, they will involve you in their personal drama. Find a better class of people to hang out with.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 4:01:00 AM EDT
[#8]
When I first got out of college, many years ago, I lived in New Orleans.

2 or 3 burglaries,.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 4:04:12 AM EDT
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If they're having frequent contacts with police, they tend to have some issues. If you associate with people who have issues, they will involve you in their personal drama. Find a better class of people to hang out with.
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Perhaps so. I do tend to associate mostly with people who are not blind sheep, and don't like to be fucked in the ass by JBTs. Peasants mostly.
If they're having frequent contacts with police, they tend to have some issues. If you associate with people who have issues, they will involve you in their personal drama. Find a better class of people to hang out with.
I don't recall saying anything about frequent contacts, or issues, or drama. Not really sure what your argument is here...

Are you projecting?
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 4:13:00 AM EDT
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I don't recall saying anything about frequent contacts, or issues, or drama. Not really sure what your argument is here...

Are you projecting?
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No, I'm recounting the sorts of issues that get people into frequent contacts with the police, and the sorts of people who verbalize the exact sort of comment you posted.
Normal people don't have frequent contacts with police and don't develop the chips on their shoulders that your comment reflects.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 4:24:19 AM EDT
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I called them when my wife's stalker decided to come into our home after he finished masturbating in our back yard and called me on the intercom to tell me about it.
also when a prisoner tried to extort money from me and started making threats to send someone over to my home to collect, best part of that was the deputy was writing his report while the idiot was on speaker phone via his butt phone and I kept asking him to repeat his threats by saying " could you repeat that? we must have a shitty connection or you are on a shitty phone". the look on the deputy's face was priceless as he was trying to control his laughter  
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Wait.  You had the  perverted asshole right where you wanted him and you called the cops??  Please tell us it was after you discussed your displeasure with him and he was carried out of your home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfOC-Z6wG8w
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 4:37:29 AM EDT
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I mean I guess it was handled for the most part without the cops, but when I was 16 I was jumped by 2 guys who stole my wallet. My dad, his friend and I tracked them down, my dad tackled the one guy and started beating his ass while the other guy took off. The cops arrived amidst said ass beating and took Guy 1 away. I never got my wallet back but they did catch the other guy and made him pay me restitution and he got probation. If the police didn't exist we could've used Guy 1 to track down Guy 2 and beat his ass to get my money back too I guess.

2 days ago someone was pounding on my door at 4am. It was a guy who got mugged at gunpoint while walking to work and they took his phone. 911 called and the cops handled it from there. I guess it wasn't my problem, and I wasn't about to try and solve it.
P.S.: Dude was a total cuck, wouldn't call the guys who mugged him "black" (the cops asked if they were white, black, Hispanic, etc. and he said "African American") and then proceeded to say "well I don't know if it was a gun but it looked like a gun, I guess it could've been a BB gun, it was definitely a projectile weapon".
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 5:41:17 AM EDT
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Needed the PD twice in my life. 

In neither case did their involvement help and in one of the two It was a fucking disaster.

The phrase “Don’t invite the man into your life” isn’t just a saying.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 5:55:59 AM EDT
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Need was debatable, but I sure as hell wasnt going to sort out the aftermath from when a random dude tried to kill his girlfriend in my front yard, and on my porch where I physically intervened to stop it.

I technically didn't need it, but as said above, no way would I try to sort that shitshow out, plus the guy needed arrestin' and they had to get the word out to other cops in this state and the next with the license plate # and vehicle.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 6:02:02 AM EDT
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44 years.

Never had a use for the police beyond the sheriff signing NFA paperwork.

The NFA is a constitutional violation so...
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 6:20:18 AM EDT
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I am 58 and I call the police every time something has been stolen from me.

From a nice ten speed when I was about 14 to a toolbox stolen by a wrecker driver off a truck he thought was totaled.

I do this for two reasons, do get these thefts on the record and to try to get the motherfuckers caught and put in jail.


Now I have had everything from hand tools to trailers stolen from me . Tons of scrap, even pears and pecans stolen off my trees and yard.  Expensive meters and tools.

And not one Fucking time in 58 years has one motherfucker been arrested or indicted.

Not even the one who admitted at a property hearing in front of a cop and a judge that the thousand dollar meter she pawned was not hers and the judge asked the cop are you going to read her her rights and he did not and further more he is kind of friends with me and I all but begged him to do some thing and not a damn thing was done.

But I make them file reports

I no longer call them when alarms go off at my business.

I clear the buildings my self.  Why you might ask?

One day a cop comes out of my building with four of my guns bitching about what he might have to face if some one had been in there.

So it don't do any good to call but I am paying for the service so I do report crime.

I also call on suspicious people in the neighborhood, cops love this they get to roust them, they come in a hurry.

Your mileage may vary.

Edit to add I could list all the items but it aint worth the typing. Tens of thousands of dollars and I could list many other business men and women in my are who have been hit harder.

One was particularly funny.  My brother caught a guy walking down the street with one of our drills out of one of our trucks and took it away from the tattoo covered Mexican.  Cops told him they know who he is but don't mess with him he is MS 13.    We cant prove that is your wire, well the motherfucker is walking out of my yard with it.

It is a fucking joke.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 8:27:06 AM EDT
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No, I'm recounting the sorts of issues that get people into frequent contacts with the police, and the sorts of people who verbalize the exact sort of comment you posted.
Normal people don't have frequent contacts with police and don't develop the chips on their shoulders that your comment reflects.
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I don't recall saying anything about frequent contacts, or issues, or drama. Not really sure what your argument is here...

Are you projecting?
No, I'm recounting the sorts of issues that get people into frequent contacts with the police, and the sorts of people who verbalize the exact sort of comment you posted.
Normal people don't have frequent contacts with police and don't develop the chips on their shoulders that your comment reflects.
Oh, I definitely HATE every single time I get hosed in the ass or even pulled over, and in my lifetime it has happened more than the average I'm sure.  I speed every day and from time to time I have to pony up the leech safety tax. I don't enjoy being robbed, but I do enjoy speeding so there it is.

The discussion we were having is not about MY chip on my shoulder, or how many times Johnny law put his boot on my neck and decided to dip his shit hooks into my pocket.

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Most of the people I know have had bad experiences with them. Most of them do not dislike cops, but they have had bad experiences nonetheless.
Maybe that's more of a reflection on a specific agency, or even the people you choose to associate with.....
Please note that I already stated the people I refer to do not dislike cops. Generally speaking I do dislike cops, but  you challenged my assertion that most people have had negative experiences when it comes to the police. I say most people have.
For example, I read that 80% of drivers have had at least 1 ticket. That is not what anyone would call a good experience. Then add in the teens who do not drive yet, that get fucked with for walking down the road. Then consider all the families of the people who get in trouble. My kids do not drive yet, but they all know that when a cop pulls you over it isn't good. Then add in the jailbirds and their kids, spouses, parents, etc. They probably almost always deserve jail, but it creates a hardship for the family. Not the cops fault, but a negative experience nonetheless.

Whether you are in law enforcement or not, it doesn't take a big brain to figure this out. Not all laws are good, and the laws are not applied to everyone equally. I know for a fact that most, if not all, cops don't give each other tickets. (Just specific agencies I'm sure.)The world isn't as stupid as you think it is.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 8:35:30 AM EDT
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Yes.  There is a member here aware of the “Captain Larry” incident (see Harvey thread) that requires the police.  They also responded to and arrested to 1.  People breaking into my business at night  2. People breaking into cars at business.  3.  Drug seekers at Dr’s office next to ours and not taking no for an answer.  4.  Psycho stalker of an employee.

Among other things.  Not that I necessarily made the call in most incidents, but it involved my property.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 8:39:15 AM EDT
[#19]
Yep. I had to call for help 3 years ago when my father's temper got out of hand. Always respected cops ever since I was a kid and this event made me respect them even more.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 8:49:17 AM EDT
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Bouncing in college there was a fight involving about 50 people. Other bouncer and I couldn't stop it. It broke up quick after the first cop tasted a guy.

Since then I haven't involved myself in such activities.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 8:49:19 AM EDT
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A drunk driver and to report stolen property. I totally could have taken care of the drunk myself (but that would be illegal) no stolen property was ever recovered and no thief was ever caught. But insurance likes a police report to pay out on it.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 8:57:18 AM EDT
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robbed at gunpoint at age 14, me and a buddy, of our mopeds, so yes, we called the cops, this was 1979 I guess, so yeah, I called the cops once.
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Did the perps go to jail?

Did you get your property back?
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 9:00:42 AM EDT
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Bouncing in college there was a fight involving about 50 people. Other bouncer and I couldn't stop it. It broke up quick after the first cop tasted a guy.
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Link Posted: 9/26/2017 9:01:20 AM EDT
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All the time.

Need them to take reports after MVCs or when somebody dumps and torches a stolen vehicle. Usually call them in when going to an OD or other medical call at a known drug house/problem house as well. They also get called in to take a report when the patient ends up being a corpse.

In my personal life I have called them once when handling the problem myself would have landed me in jail.I consider the fact that I don't need them around regularly to be evidence that they are doing their jobs.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 9:02:41 AM EDT
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Well in fairness getting tasted by a cop would probably make me stop whatever the fuck I was doing and leave in a hurry.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 9:02:54 AM EDT
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Oh, I definitely HATE every single time I get hosed in the ass or even pulled over, and in my lifetime it has happened more than the average I'm sure.  I speed every day and from time to time I have to pony up the leech safety tax. I don't enjoy being robbed, but I do enjoy speeding so there it is.

The discussion we were having is not about MY chip on my shoulder, or how many times Johnny law put his boot on my neck and decided to dip his shit hooks into my pocket.

The conversation stems from this on page 2-

Please note that I already stated the people I refer to do not dislike cops. Generally speaking I do dislike cops, but  you challenged my assertion that most people have had negative experiences when it comes to the police. I say most people have.
For example, I read that 80% of drivers have had at least 1 ticket. That is not what anyone would call a good experience. Then add in the teens who do not drive yet, that get fucked with for walking down the road. Then consider all the families of the people who get in trouble. My kids do not drive yet, but they all know that when a cop pulls you over it isn't good. Then add in the jailbirds and their kids, spouses, parents, etc. They probably almost always deserve jail, but it creates a hardship for the family. Not the cops fault, but a negative experience nonetheless.

Whether you are in law enforcement or not, it doesn't take a big brain to figure this out. Not all laws are good, and the laws are not applied to everyone equally. I know for a fact that most, if not all, cops don't give each other tickets. (Just specific agencies I'm sure.)The world isn't as stupid as you think it is.
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Traffic enforcement. Of all the things you're going to bring up, it's traffic enforcement. An interaction that is entirely the fault of the involved driver. An interaction that for many people IS the main interaction they have with your average LEO, but an activity that takes up a relatively small part of any officers day unless they are a dedicated traffic enforcement unit.
If people have a negative interaction with law enforcement because of traffic enforcement, that's by their own doing, and they should admit that.

Do most people get a ticket over a lifetime, decades of driving? Sure. I've had old folks who argue that they shouldn't get a ticket because they've managed to go X number of decades without one.
I'll give you one example of an old person who felt differently. I've told this story before here but it's been a while.
I grew up with this family as neighbors. By the time I was a young LEO, the husband was in his 80s, and his family had been trying to get him to hang up the keys for years.
One day he's driving in my patrol zone and at an intersection pulls out in front of an approaching car and causes an accident. I cited him for that infraction.
A year or so goes by; the man dies. At the funeral, the family approached my parents and thanked me through them for citing their dad that day.
They said that he finally realized that if I of all people was going to cite him, he needed to hang up the keys, and he did, to the families relief.

In my day to day experience, there is almost never a day that goes by while I am in uniform where people aren't coming up to me, thanking me and shaking my hand and hugging me and telling me how much they appreciate having us out there.
The guys who don't, the guys who rant and rave about how they hate our guts and how they think we're pussies and they'd like to meet us out there on the street without a gun....those are like the guy the other day we had to arrest because he beat up his girlfriend and then barricaded them into their apartment so his girlfriend with her shiner wouldn't be visible to police who responded to deal with him.
They're the drunks in their hillside old singlewide trailers with the junker cars piled around, their unwashed drunken condition, unkempt beards, swilling their booze and telling us to get "get of their land" because we got sent there because another relative reported that a  gun got pulled during some family fisticuffs. the one guy in particular didn't take to me too well, and made it clear he didn't.
A month later I had the opportunity to arrest another family member on an outstanding warrant, and he kept saying how that drunk relative had been going on since our first encounter about what an asshole I was and how wrong that guy had been.
Was he kissing my ass trying to curry favor because he was in handcuffs at the time? Sure, probably.
My point remains though, that in my experience, those who complain about the police and being mistreated by the police, have created the circumstances and the tone in which that interaction has occurred.

If your sole interaction with police, and the interactions that your friends judge police by, are traffic enforcement, you're seeing only a small portion of what officers do.
I had a childhood friend  who I ran into once or twice after I became a LEO.
On one of our last meetings he had just gotten a ticket and complained that the officer acted inappropriately because the officer never smiled during the traffic stop.
People will complain about literally anything, I guess....
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 9:10:45 AM EDT
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Maybe not really "needed". But my dad and I tried cleaning out an abandoned hoarder's old home. 

Before we started the police tried to go through to make sure there weren't any squatters. 
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 9:31:45 AM EDT
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99% of policing is taking reports and playing referee.
I only ever called the police for something needed once. Went outside to find the 3 year old neighbor kid outside in the middle of winter saying her mom wouldn't wake up. Call police and they show up and big pit bull meets them. Humane Society snags the dog and turns out mom or dad aren't home. House is covered in dog shit, dad is at work and mom left the daughter to go to a friends to get high.
Mom gets arrested for Child Neglect and dad is later ticketed for it due to the condition of the house.
Sweetest little girl who sat at my house while all of this went down watching cartoons with me and eating fruit loops. This was 7 years ago. I wonder about her sometimes cause the deck is stacked against her with that mess of parents.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 9:36:59 AM EDT
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Yes, a few times. Shit happens, sometimes it's above my pay grade.

Last time I called them was driving Uber, some drunk girl passed out in my back seat and had pulled her top almost off. No fucking way I'm going to touch her or try to drag her out of the car...that's a lawsuit waiting to happen, or a false rape claim.

Parked the car in front of her house, got out, called the local police to come and get her out and do a wellness check/call ambulance if needed.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 9:44:13 AM EDT
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Yes, a few times. Shit happens, sometimes it's above my pay grade.

Last time I called them was driving Uber, some drunk girl passed out in my back seat and had pulled her top almost off. No fucking way I'm going to touch her or try to drag her out of the car...that's a lawsuit waiting to happen, or a false rape claim.

Parked the car in front of her house, got out, called the local police to come and get her out and do a wellness check/call ambulance if needed.
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Yeah that is certainly a moment when one needs to cover their ass.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 9:47:13 AM EDT
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How do we define need?

I've had an officer come and file a report on an auto accident on private property so that insurance would pay out.  Does that count as "need"?  I called them once also after being robbed so they could look the place over for anything that might help them catch the perp (I don't think they ever did).

That's about it.
Link Posted: 9/26/2017 10:08:27 AM EDT
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Never had a use for the police beyond the sheriff signing NFA paperwork.

The NFA is a constitutional violation so...
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I almost forgot about that! I went to the sheriff's office and said that I was buying a machine gun and that the Form 4 needed a signature. The reaction was basically "cool, hang on a minute" and then done.
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