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And the 300 Win Mag is less capable than a .577 Nitro, but don't stop there. Let's use a 105mm howitzer.
I have personally used the 223 in hunting and real world. The 223 does just fine.
I am a fairly good lead slinger out to 300M with iron sights. With my EoTech, I was engaging targets at over 400M.
They did not get up.
And yes I agree a 22 hornet is capable of killing a deer. My Grandfather used to kill deer with a 22 back in 30s and 40s.
He was poor and all he had. He was still able to put meat on the table.
I have been hunting for over 35 years, and have hunted several states, as well as other locations.
With the exception of trying to shoot a deer in the next county, there is no situation where a 223 is not capable of killing a North American Whitetail with the right bullet selection.
You just lost all credibility with that remark...particularly the "no situation" remark. As I can come up with a number of situations where you cannot make an ethical shot (90% chance or better of a quick kill) on a deer with 223, regardless of bullet.
-David
Edgewood, NM
opinion.
I stated mine.
And for every "situation" you can come up with,I am sure will be an opinion.
Bottom line, if you can kill it with another caliber, you can kill it with a 223. (ETA: When it comes to Whitetails)
The argument used to be, that a 243 was to light for deer. I have seen and personally used a 243 to take numerous whitetails.
Same as a 223.
If you can't make a shot with 223, then probably should not be shooting at it with anything else.
I have a 300 RUM and I go bang targets at 600 yards with it. Does that mean I should be shooting at deer with it at that yardage?
NO it does not, even though I probably stand a 90% chance of killing it. But it is that 10% chance that I won't and that is what stops me.
So as I stated, unless the deer is a 400+ yards away, a 223 will kill it with the proper hunting round and shot placement.
Do I personally think someone should be shooting at a deer 400+ yards away? NO.
I actually think 200 yards is to far. I know several people can drill it at that yardage, but what if it is a miss?
There is no telling what that bullet will make contact with.
I have had the unfortanate experience of sitting in a tree stand, with a bullet striking the tree about 4 feet above my head.
I still have no idea where that round came from as I never heard the shot.