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Posted: 4/24/2022 11:14:32 PM EDT
Ward Carroll - Here's All the Gear the Pentagon Just Gave the Ukrainian Military - $800M USD
Here's All the Gear the Pentagon Just Gave the Ukrainian Military


1,400 Stinger systems
5,500 Javelin systems
14,000 other anti-armor systems
700 Switchblade UAV systems
90 155mm Howitzers + 183,000 rounds
72 Tactical tow vehicles for the Howitzers
16 MI-17 Helicopters
100 Humvees
200 M113 APC's
7,000 Small Arms + Over 50 million rounds of ammo
75K sets of body armor and helmets
100 Phoenix Ghost Tactical UAV's
Laser guided rocket systems
Puma UAV's
Unmanned Coastal Defense vessels (boats)
14 counter artillery radar systems
4 counter motor radar systems
2  AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel 3D air surveillance radar systems  
Hundreds of Claymores
C4 explosives and demolition equipment
Tactical secure communication systems
NVG's, Thermal imaging systems, laser range finders
Commercial satellite imagery services
EOD protective gear
CBRN gear
Medical supplies

“Shoot, A Fella' Could Have A Pretty Good Weekend In Vegas With All That Stuff”


Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:31:01 PM EDT
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NVG's, Thermal imaging systems,
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Giving away things that give us an edge, good job.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:32:17 PM EDT
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Giving them much less than we gave ISIS. ISIS must have donated more to Bidens campaign fund.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:32:39 PM EDT
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Woo proxy war!
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:34:29 PM EDT
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And 25% of this disappeared as soon as we dropped it off.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:34:43 PM EDT
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This is a good list of everything Americans should be able to own.

For the exact same reasons.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:36:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:36:23 PM EDT
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Good.  

I wonder what all the 14,000 other anti-armor systems are. AT-4s, M-72s, etc I would figure.  Maybe some Gustavs? I wonder if there are any Dragons still laying around...

@KA3B did we ever figure out what anti-ship missiles the Brits gave them are?
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:37:22 PM EDT
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We bought that shit for killing Russians in the first place.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:37:58 PM EDT
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Wonder what small arms they got??
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:38:32 PM EDT
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That actually seems like a pretty good haul for only 800m.  

Reminds me of the salad days of Shotgun News.  
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:39:54 PM EDT
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yep.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:40:16 PM EDT
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State Department, Not the Pentagon???
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:42:18 PM EDT
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We bought that shit for killing Russians in the first place.
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This. If it’s killing Russians it’s money we’ll spent.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:42:32 PM EDT
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The government buys AKs and other weapons just to give them away. I have a friend who is an inspector who makes sure they get the right weapons and ammo.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:51:44 PM EDT
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They should not be telling what there sending over there. Stupid!
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:54:04 PM EDT
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We bought that shit for killing Russians in the first place.
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Fate is inexorable.
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:56:39 PM EDT
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Hopefully they rush making more of it instead of well schedule it 10 years from now
Link Posted: 4/24/2022 11:59:24 PM EDT
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How much is "The Big Guy" getting in kick backs from the Military Industrial Complex for all this?
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:01:52 AM EDT
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*goes to ebay*
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:01:53 AM EDT
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Perhaps, but if its extra scary, it might act as a disincentive for the Russians to push further incursions.   That would be the general hope, anyway.

The Ruskies already know where it’s coming from, so it’s not as if it’s a state secret.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:04:00 AM EDT
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Just think of what we could have done with all that on our southern border.  
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:08:16 AM EDT
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Ukraine mob has this shit up for grabs on the dark web RFN.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:09:52 AM EDT
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Woo proxy war!
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Don't kid yourself.
This is going to end poorly for Ukraine and for some of the nearby countries.
I wouldn't be surprised if a nuke ends up landing in Germany or even The UK.
If Putin is as sick as the news says he is, there's no way he's not going out with a bang.
Meanwhile, Ireland is accepting an unlimited amount of Ukrainian refugees and letting the citizens know that they may be forced to harbor them in their homes and businesses.
We'll probably start to see more of this from other EU countries and wouldn't be surprised if the WH doesn't start thinking of doing the same (LA tried it with the homeless).
It's being reported that the US doesn't have the resources necessary to replenish the armaments we "lent" to Zelensky. Too many sole source contracts and dependence on foreign raw materials.
As for Zelensky, he's a dirtbag criminal that is sacrificing his citizens in exchange for fame and fortune.

Nothing is good about this war.
There are no heroes, only villains.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:12:26 AM EDT
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I agree with you.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:12:33 AM EDT
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And the Big Guy gets 10%..... on our dime. Fuck this bullshit.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:13:43 AM EDT
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Just think of what we could have done with all that on our southern border.  
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We don't even need that. Just some buses so we can load them up and drive them right back.

It would cost less than a local school district spends on busing to move tens of thousands of illegal aliens per day back to Central and South America.

Of course, I would make them all spend a year building the wall before I deported them. But I'm racist like that. You guys would be nicer and just drive them home.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:17:05 AM EDT
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And still no A-10s the USAF has tried for decades to get rid of.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:22:48 AM EDT
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NVM
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:27:36 AM EDT
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Giving them much less than we gave ISIS. ISIS must have donated more to Bidens campaign fund.
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Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:27:42 AM EDT
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Giving away things that give us an edge, good job.
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Giving away things that give us an edge, good job.


How much of that did we give away in the Afghanistan fuck up???
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:31:51 AM EDT
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I wouldn't be surprised if a nuke ends up landing in Germany or even The UK.
If Putin is as sick as the news says he is, there's no way he's not going out with a bang.
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Woo proxy war!

I wouldn't be surprised if a nuke ends up landing in Germany or even The UK.
If Putin is as sick as the news says he is, there's no way he's not going out with a bang.

How much is the Kremlin paying you to spread your fear porn?

A nuke ends up in a NATO country and every city in Russia ceases to exist. Putin is evil, not suicidal.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:33:28 AM EDT
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How much of that did we give away in the Afghanistan fuck up???
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NVG's, Thermal imaging systems,


Giving away things that give us an edge, good job.


How much of that did we give away in the Afghanistan fuck up???



Right. You’d think we’d learn our lesson by now.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:36:23 AM EDT
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I am interested to see if our switchblades do as well against Russia as the Israeli Harop and the Turkish version did against Armenia in the hands of Azerbaijan.

I also want to see what The Israeli Harpy anti radar drone could do to take out Russian air defense systems.  Are the Israelis still sitting on the sidelines because of their close ties to Russia?
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:38:41 AM EDT
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Hundreds of claymores?
Fuck, every Ukrainian should have an AK, an ATGM and  2 pack of claymores. If you're going to party, party hearty.

Kharn
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:41:28 AM EDT
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Perhaps, but if its extra scary, it might act as a disincentive for the Russians to push further incursions.   That would be the general hope, anyway.

The Ruskies already know where it’s coming from, so it’s not as if it’s a state secret.
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That only works against countries that actually care about their own casualties.

Kinda like the "5.56 was designed to wound because it would take 2 more soldiers out of the fight to care for the wounded man."
Yes, because all the enemies that we have shot 5.56s at have been so terribly concerned about taking care of their wounded.
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I am interested to see if our switchblades do as well against Russia as the Israeli Harop and the Turkish version did against Armenia in the hands of Azerbaijan.

I also want to see what The Israeli Harpy anti radar drone could do to take out Russian air defense systems.  Are the Israelis still sitting on the sidelines because of their close ties to Russia?
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Largely their large First and second generation Russian immigrants.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:42:10 AM EDT
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That actually seems like a pretty good haul for only 800m.  

Reminds me of the salad days of Shotgun News.  
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Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:44:48 AM EDT
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Perhaps, but if its extra scary, it might act as a disincentive for the Russians to push further incursions.   That would be the general hope, anyway.

The Ruskies already know where it's coming from, so it's not as if it's a state secret.
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They should not be telling what there sending over there. Stupid!


Perhaps, but if its extra scary, it might act as a disincentive for the Russians to push further incursions.   That would be the general hope, anyway.

The Ruskies already know where it's coming from, so it's not as if it's a state secret.

Yeah I'm pretty sure the Russians know that the weapon systems came from the United States when a tank gets taken out by a javelin or an aircraft gets downed by a stinger.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:45:17 AM EDT
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Hundreds of claymores?
Fuck, every Ukrainian should have an AK, an ATGM and  2 pack of claymores. If you're going to party, party hearty.

Kharn
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Ukraine has the Mon series of Soviet Claymore, so I would guess they aren’t hurting for command detonated mines.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:45:20 AM EDT
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I guess when those thermals end up in China, we'll be able to pick up some nice Holosun knockoffs on the cheap. So there's that.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:46:07 AM EDT
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We don't even need that. Just some buses so we can load them up and drive them right back.

It would cost less than a local school district spends on busing to move tens of thousands of illegal aliens per day back to Central and South America.

Of course, I would make them all spend a year building the wall before I deported them. But I'm racist like that. You guys would be nicer and just drive them home.
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Biden can take Trump's strong position and end all imports from Mexico, all assistance to Mexico and all daily visits from Mexicans until Mexico turns back all invaders at the southern Mexican border and pays for having all the other invaders deported and returned to their country or hell...whichever is closer.


The ammo looked like .22 ammo
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:46:55 AM EDT
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Perhaps, but if its extra scary, it might act as a disincentive for the Russians to push further incursions.   That would be the general hope, anyway.

The Ruskies already know where it’s coming from, so it’s not as if it’s a state secret.
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This. It’s not 1942. Virtually nothing of significance that any modern military does won’t be known by people who want to know it. Cause satellites and cell phones.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:47:09 AM EDT
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Holy shit
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:48:19 AM EDT
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Nice..off to the EE !
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:48:27 AM EDT
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I guess when those thermals end up in China, we'll be able to pick up some nice Holosun knockoffs on the cheap. So there's that.
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If the thermals and NVGs are available to the Civilian market they have been in China 2 weeks after they went on sale. Let’s not kid ourselves here.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:54:20 AM EDT
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And the Pelosi, Kerry, Dementia Biden and Romney families were all millions richer moments later.  Shocker.
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:55:11 AM EDT
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War is incredibly wasteful.

Let the Ukrainians use each and every item exactly for what it was designed to do -- kill Russians and "Peer competitors."
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 12:55:43 AM EDT
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X87
Link Posted: 4/25/2022 1:01:41 AM EDT
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Any USMC marked rear sights ?

We have to keep those under tight control.

Link Posted: 4/25/2022 1:19:17 AM EDT
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Ward Carroll - Here's All the Gear the Pentagon Just Gave the Ukrainian Military - $800M USD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG9cPSVks00

1,400 Stinger systems
5,500 Javelin systems
14,000 other anti-armor systems
700 Switchblade UAV systems
90 155mm Howitzers + 183,000 rounds
72 Tactical tow vehicles for the Howitzers
16 MI-17 Helicopters
100 Humvees
200 M113 APC's
7,000 Small Arms + Over 50 million rounds of ammo
75K sets of body armor and helmets
100 Phoenix Ghost Tactical UAV's
Laser guided rocket systems
Puma UAV's
Unmanned Coastal Defense vessels (boats)
14 counter artillery radar systems
4 counter motor radar systems
2  AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel 3D air surveillance radar systems  
Hundreds of Claymores
C4 explosives and demolition equipment
Tactical secure communication systems
NVG's, Thermal imaging systems, laser range finders
Commercial satellite imagery services
EOD protective gear
CBRN gear
Medical supplies

“Shoot, A Fella' Could Have A Pretty Good Weekend In Vegas With All That Stuff”


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Which switchblades? 300 or 600?

M4s?  Or AKs?  For small arms.  7.62x39 or 5.45 or 5.56?

Chechens have already been photographed with M4s.
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