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Posted: 4/25/2022 7:56:32 AM EDT
[#1]
we "gave" it to them? I highly doubt it.....someone got paid for all of that stuff....
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:05:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Woo proxy war! Which is always fun when your supplying the gear and not the soldiers. The other way around is the sucky way. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:06:31 AM EDT
[#3]
wait
i thought the left hated the "industrial military complex" and here we are.... ...lemme guess....this is different |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:06:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And 25% of this disappeared as soon as we dropped it off. No worries. We will buy it back at 4 times the price. Just like Lybia |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:10:44 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. If it’s killing Russians it’s money we’ll spent. And when Ukrainians decide we’re partly to blame for their problems? |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:13:46 AM EDT
[#6]
If I identify as Ukrainian can I get some cool freebie stuff too? Heck I technically paid for it
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:17:49 AM EDT
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And that same government doesn’t want to let us keep pistol braces
Lol |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:19:35 AM EDT
[#8]
When will the Pentagon hand this stuff out to Southern Border state’s populace to stop the invasion of illegal aliens?
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:26:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just think of what we could have done with all that on our southern border.  All about securing it, but hitting Rosa and her little mijo with a javelin seems a bit extreme. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:33:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a good list of everything Americans should be able to own. For the exact same reasons. Yes, everything on that list is constitutionally protected by the 2nd, by definition - we clearly believe it is necessary for a militia to be well regulated or we wouldn't be sending it. Also, we have MI-17s lying around? |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:38:52 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder what small arms they got?? I refuse |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:40:48 AM EDT
[#12]
Defense stocks go up and up and retired generals and congress get rich.
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:44:19 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: wait i thought the left hated the "industrial military complex" and here we are.... ...lemme guess....this is different The left loves violence and weapons. Just not for you. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:44:48 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is ITAR even a thing if we voluntarily give restricted gear to every shithole in the world? State handles all FMS and transfers like this. State is the swamp. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:49:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They should not be telling what there sending over there. Stupid! |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 8:58:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of this will fall in the wrong hands. None. That's not happening when you give it away to one of the most corrupt regime on earth. All is well |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:02:18 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Woo proxy war! We even have the higher murder rates and rampant urban decay. Too bad we didn't get good pop music, conservative values, and original movies as well. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:03:51 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When will the Pentagon hand this stuff out to Southern Border state’s populace to stop the invasion of illegal aliens? The border is weird, these people are not fighting to come over here so to speak These people were given the blessing from a presidential candidate and now president They pretty much show up with their hands up giving themselves up to law enforcement with the promise of a future of the US taking care of them You couldn't stop them with guns, they'd beg right up to the barrel and gladly be taken as POWs. Hell you could probably shoot them until the ammo is exhausted and they'd use the bodies of their fellow "refugees" as sandbags to cross the rio grande |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:10:51 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At this rate it will start having an effect on our ability to defend the US eventually. General Keane says Javelin stocks are down 1/3 |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:11:42 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 183,000 arty rounds? Splash out! |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:19:43 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Giving away things that give us an edge, good job. Certainly seems like all that equipment floating around could come back to bite us in some form. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:19:53 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Woo proxy war! We even have the higher murder rates and rampant urban decay. Too bad we didn't get good pop music, conservative values, and original movies as well. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:20:10 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess when those thermals end up in China, we'll be able to pick up some nice Holosun knockoffs on the cheap. So there's that. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:20:58 AM EDT
[#24]
The pathetic thing is, the Biden Administration had to be shamed into doing it.
Same with the visits. Boris Johnson strides in waving the Union Jack while the Bidens send over a couple of 3rd level bureaucrats. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:22:47 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: War is incredibly wasteful. Let the Ukrainians use each and every item exactly for what it was designed to do -- kill Russians and "Peer competitors." |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:23:26 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 400+ per cannon per day. Some of us can’t bracket for shit  Gotta bracket shit
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:24:49 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't kid yourself. This is going to end poorly for Ukraine and for some of the nearby countries. I wouldn't be surprised if a nuke ends up landing in Germany or even The UK. If Putin is as sick as the news says he is, there's no way he's not going out with a bang. Meanwhile, Ireland is accepting an unlimited amount of Ukrainian refugees and letting the citizens know that they may be forced to harbor them in their homes and businesses. We'll probably start to see more of this from other EU countries and wouldn't be surprised if the WH doesn't start thinking of doing the same (LA tried it with the homeless). It's being reported that the US doesn't have the resources necessary to replenish the armaments we "lent" to Zelensky. Too many sole source contracts and dependence on foreign raw materials. As for Zelensky, he's a dirtbag criminal that is sacrificing his citizens in exchange for fame and fortune. Nothing is good about this war. There are no heroes, only villains. I agree. We are fucked. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:25:54 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why I don't actually have much of a problem giving it to them. I'm not interested in us fighting the Russians and don't remotely consider Ukraine worth WWIII over. But I'm OK with sending them weapons, cash, and intel. We supply the weapons, they supply the manpower and effort. The Russian army gets badly degraded and exposed, we get to study it in action, and it's tied up in Ukraine - totally unable to act anywhere else. Every missile they fire in Ukraine is one they won't fire somewhere else, and every Russian who dies there won't be bothering anyone else anywhere else. And maybe they just end up losing the war in the end. Pretty good deal for us, when you think about it. China watching too. Kiev was a wake up call for their Taipei plans as their plan for dropping Chinese paratroopers into Taiwan’s biggest city was always gonna be a bad idea. They’re building up their Marine and amphibious forces but don’t have enough so they switched to focus on large air drops. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:31:06 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, hopefully we get rid of all the woodland and UCP grey digital camo stuff out of the inventory. UCP might finally work in Kiev or Odessa  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:32:42 AM EDT
[#30]
How much did the kids of Swamp creatures get?
Big Guy get his cut? |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:35:12 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: we "gave" it to them? I highly doubt it.....someone got paid for all of that stuff.... |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:36:56 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The 70s and 80s are back in style baby! We even have the higher murder rates and rampant urban decay. Too bad we didn't get good pop music, conservative values, and original movies as well. Joker was kinda late 70s ish vibe even though it’s set in 1981 NYC and gas prices are 1970s |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:38:45 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We pay for lots of stuff that never really is gong to be used. Tanks that go to Saudi Arabia and sit in storage, it's sort of corporate welfare. The F15EX is about 90% the F15SA that the Saudis paid to develop. FMS does keep production rolling and developing. I'd rather other countries help pay for the world order we enforce. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:43:48 AM EDT
[#34]
Woohoo! Arming the Taliban and Ukraine while disarming us citizens! Way to go!
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:49:51 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We pay for lots of stuff that never really is gong to be used. Tanks that go to Saudi Arabia and sit in storage, it's sort of corporate welfare. That stuff is there because bringing it in would take six months, a lesson we learned in 1990. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:50:32 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How much did the kids of Swamp creatures get? Big Guy get his cut? Well it was the Russian puppet Ukrainians who were buying democrats. They must have stopped paying. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:51:01 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Certainly seems like all that equipment floating around could come back to bite us in some form. That’s war. But it’s going to hurt the Russians a lot more than us. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 9:51:32 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: General Keane says Javelin stocks are down 1/3 Yeah and if we don’t ship a single one it’ll take more than a year to build back up. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:05:41 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And 25% of this disappeared as soon as we dropped it off. I'm just wondering how long until an American stinger missile is used to down an airliner |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:09:15 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah and if we don’t ship a single one it’ll take more than a year to build back up. Read this? https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/04/25/the-twitter-account-giving-a-window-into-chinas-internet.html |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:17:23 AM EDT
[#41]
When was the last time a Ukrainian Igla downed an airliner?
You can expect though that Russia will supply some captured weapons to terrorists. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:19:34 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: General Keane says Javelin stocks are down 1/3 Maybe this has been the plan. Deplete our stock before war with China kicks off |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:20:42 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryNo, but it doesn’t surprise me. The Chinese public will have little say though until they are accidentally whipped into more of a frenzy than expected and the CCP is drawn to war to appease them. Or in case of internal problems where a distraction was needed. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:22:11 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe this has been the plan. Deplete our stock before war with China kicks off If we need a lot of Javelin missiles to fight China we fucked up somewhere. I’m unaware of the US using javelin from ships. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:27:12 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That stuff is there because bringing it in would take six months, a lesson we learned in 1990. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We pay for lots of stuff that never really is gong to be used. Tanks that go to Saudi Arabia and sit in storage, it's sort of corporate welfare. That stuff is there because bringing it in would take six months, a lesson we learned in 1990. How long does it take to pull out of storage and put back in working condition? |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:30:49 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any USMC marked rear sights ? We have to keep those under tight control.   Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 10:32:50 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We give Mexico military equipment all the time and they are literally more corrupt than Ukraine. Or even Italy which is fantastically corrupt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: None of this will fall in the wrong hands. None. That’s not happening when you give it away to one of the most corrupt regime on earth. All is well We give Mexico military equipment all the time and they are literally more corrupt than Ukraine. Or even Italy which is fantastically corrupt. One could argue the US is the HIV of the world. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 12:12:25 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One could argue the US is the HIV of the world. You really are a leftist. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 12:13:06 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How long does it take to pull out of storage and put back in working condition? There are technicians there who keep them turned over and serviced. I’m sure they have a standard for how long it can take to get them ready but it’s not supposed to be long. |
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Posted: 4/25/2022 12:28:26 PM EDT
[#50]
I'm surprised at some of that stuff, quite a bit of it requires trainers and logistics support that Ukraine does not have. We must have a familiarization program going somewhere, possibly Poland?
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