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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:17:59 PM EDT
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OP wouldnt be the first to fail at saving a stripper.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:18:31 PM EDT
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As others have stated, nothing can be done. Until she wants the help, nothing. When she does hit rock bottom, and I hope she does not, naltrexone, methadone, things like that. There was a username on reddit that was a spiral into addiction.
I hope for the best for you OP.  It will and probably has broken your heart.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:18:35 PM EDT
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I'm 24, but lets hypothetically say I have a 28 year old daughter who is hopelessly addicted to heroin, shoots up daily, pawns off my belongings, and is overall a burden on my life. Short of them getting arrested, what could I do as the parent to get them clean, even if they are unwilling to do it themselves? Good luck, its not going to be a fun ride. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:18:38 PM EDT
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Saw a family friend go through the same. Nothing and I mean NOTHING can be done to help. They have to recover on their own, and make that decision for them self.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:18:42 PM EDT
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Except they have to stay on it because if they stop the withdrawal is a lot worse. A typical opiate withdrawal lasts about a week. A suboxone withdrawal lasts a month or more Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suboxone. Same treatment as methadone, but far superior as a program and instead of getting you just as high like methadone does, Suboxone only keeps them from going into withdrawal. Its something they can live a productive life on until they got off of, unlike heroin or methadone. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:18:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except they have to stay on it because if they stop the withdrawal is a lot worse. A typical opiate withdrawal lasts about a week. A suboxone withdrawal lasts a month or more |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:19:18 PM EDT
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Just wait for her to start stripping, move in with her drug dealer boyfriend who beats the shit out of her. Then she will get arrested, OD 3-4 times, and get narcan'd back to life each time.
Once she does all that she will get shipped off to rehab, get out and have a kid with a Marine. Worked for my Ex. 
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:20:44 PM EDT
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Dealing with addiction isn't for the uninformed. I would recommend parents read the Addictive Brain to understand why a person falls prey to addiction, what characteristics of addiction are, what changes have to occur to over come addiction and what enabling is. As well as that, I would immediately start going to al-non classes or similar to learn about enabling behaviors and how they hurt rather than help. Addiction is far more inclined to perpetuate in emeshed boundaries than firm boundaries. Good luck, its not going to be a fun ride. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in the shoes of someone who cares about their daughter and doesn't want to see her OD and die, although I'm going to extricate myself from their lives and stop supporting her and her POS man any further. Just wondering if it is possible to forcibly put someone into rehab or something. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:21:19 PM EDT
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this topic should be moved to the ZOMBIE forum.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:21:23 PM EDT
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As a Parole Officer I supervised Parolees after they got out of a prison doing 2-5 years.
They were absolutly clean when they reported, and stayed clean for maybe a month or two or three. But eventually, they would go back to the drugs, they hadn't kicked the habit in their own brain enough to see how bad it was for them and what it did to their lives. So back to prison they go. Nothing you can do for them until they want it more than you do . |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:21:53 PM EDT
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cut slingload OP
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:25:00 PM EDT
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Wait for her to want to quit. Do not lock her out of your life due to Drug Seeking Behavior, but he careful as addicts do steal and will sometimes set up their family and friends to be targeted by their drug buddies. Be there for her when and if she wants professional help, which will cost money that she doesn't have. In the meantime all you can do is give her some low key support, maybe a hot meal now and then as you wait for her to hit bottom.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:25:49 PM EDT
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Suboxone is the only way I have seen work.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:28:58 PM EDT
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Suboxone is the only way I have seen work. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:33:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:37:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are two things that greatly affect recovery. The first is the length of time and volume of drugs they've been using, the other is their mental awareness and desire to recover. If they've been using an ounce of black a week or more and have been for many years, then they aren't going to be fixed in a month. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:37:30 PM EDT
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OP is Chuck Norris - the only man to have lost his virginity before his father did. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:38:40 PM EDT
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What many here fail to understand for addicts is that they become physically dependent on the drug. Meaning they are forced to take it or the withdrawal symptoms come creeping up and can feel like the worst flu ever and also a sheer mental anguish and depression that forces to body to seek out the drug because it now “needs it” This is what forces many to crime once they go broke buying the drug Most aren’t even doing it to feel high anymore, they do it to feel normal |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:39:06 PM EDT
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Even if they want to get clean, the withdrawals would likely convince them that quitting is a terrible idea.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:40:00 PM EDT
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Coming from the ex user side of things the only thing you can do is not help her use and wait till she makes the choice and when she does be there for her and it'll take a couple trys if she wanting to do it, Just had a friend kick last July and hasn't used it since , she came off a 10 yr run and doing great, nice to see a side of her I hadn't before Another is getting closer been a hard last 15 months with her been to 2 detoxes but 5 hr later was getting slammed again but she is getting close , I'm the only person to see her not high on H in 7 years be it a very short time but she will get there in the next several months I'm sure One thing that can help if she's getting a mind set that she wants to quite is getting het to snort or foil it, but to some the needle & spoon are part of it |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:40:54 PM EDT
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Let me guess, she also blames you for her addiction. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:40:56 PM EDT
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locke them up in a closet for a few weeks. 
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:41:06 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:41:27 PM EDT
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Why rule out having her arrested? It is a very real possibility. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:41:52 PM EDT
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come to grips that there is no hope. The only thing I've seen break heroin, and alcoholism, is a minimum 18 month prison term. For women. men are a different story.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:42:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. If you are the source of their financial welfare including their drug habit then cut that shit off. Secure your property prosecute if they trespass. Junkies suck. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:42:59 PM EDT
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come to grips that there is no hope. The only thing I've seen break heroin, and alcoholism, is a minimum 18 month prison term. For women. men are a different story. That tends to do the trick.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:43:02 PM EDT
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You let Darwin win.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:43:20 PM EDT
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start buying them monster energy and rock star energy. tell them to drink 10-20 cans a day and they wont have to use herione anymore. trust me , it works. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:43:37 PM EDT
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OP should be asking parenting advice because the raised a drug abusing stripper with possible daddy issues.  Daddy was abusive and drink back in the day. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:45:46 PM EDT
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Just wait for her to start stripping, move in with her drug dealer boyfriend who beats the shit out of her. Then she will get arrested, OD 3-4 times, and get narcan'd back to life each time. Once she does all that she will get shipped off to rehab, get out and have a kid with a Marine. Worked for my Ex. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:47:00 PM EDT
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Wait for her to want to quit. Do not lock her out of your life due to Drug Seeking Behavior, but he careful as addicts do steal and will sometimes set up their family and friends to be targeted by their drug buddies. Be there for her when and if she wants professional help, which will cost money that she doesn't have. In the meantime all you can do is give her some low key support, maybe a hot meal now and then as you wait for her to hit bottom. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:48:55 PM EDT
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I read something about how they could banish cocaine addiction with a single injection.
Completely removes the compulsion. I feel certain other addictions will fall as well. Many people can WANT to end their addiction but cannot. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:50:25 PM EDT
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The other problem that is not mentioned is that they need to replace their circle of friends.
Even if they come clean, if they're around other users sometimes the temptation is too great. I have a addictive personality so I've always stayed away from drugs. I know that trying som thing just once can get me hooked. I had a friend growing up who's parents were addicts and had drugs all over the house. He tried cocaine by 12 years of age, heroin at 16. He went to rehab at 18 and got clean. A year later he moved clear across the country so that he wouldn't be around the same people including his own parents. I never forgot what he told me, he said that the best high he ever had was from smoking heroin the first time. He said that after that he was chasing that first high and that no matter how much more he took,his high was never quite as good as the first time. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 8:53:00 PM EDT
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Nothing. You can't fix an addict until the addict wants to be fixed. My condolences. And OP - Watch the 1987 film "Less Than Zero" or read the 1985 book, and tell us what you've learned about the damages from addiction. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:06:51 PM EDT
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Christmas Eve she pawned the living room TV the TV I owned.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wait for her to want to quit. Do not lock her out of your life due to Drug Seeking Behavior, but he careful as addicts do steal and will sometimes set up their family and friends to be targeted by their drug buddies. Be there for her when and if she wants professional help, which will cost money that she doesn't have. In the meantime all you can do is give her some low key support, maybe a hot meal now and then as you wait for her to hit bottom. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:10:51 PM EDT
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Outlaw narcan, this issue will control itself.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:14:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Christmas Eve she pawned the living room TV the TV I owned.... did you fall in love with a heroine addicted stripper??? 
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:17:43 PM EDT
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Nothing. You can't fix an addict until the addict wants to be fixed. My condolences. He was using again within days of getting out of prison, despite living in a sober living halfway house. He got kicked out of there after they found him OD'ing in the bathroom. He's currently living under a bridge in KC. Paranoid, little junkie. I hope next call I get is he is back behind bars, not that he's dead. At this point, those are the only 2 things I want to know, if he's dead, or in jail. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:19:23 PM EDT
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Suboxone may help.
Buprenorphine is the devil though. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:23:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Christmas Eve she pawned the living room TV the TV I owned....
Pickup that book that has been mentioned too. Just a messed up situation and adds to your stress and everyone else around you and her. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:30:11 PM EDT
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Nothing. You could make it all legal. That would take the drug money away from the criminals
Otherwise unless they want to help themselves you can not force anything on them. Drug problems could be most successfully combated by drug education. Not bans and arrests. The criminals make so much money off the illegal nature they would never want to legal. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:32:36 PM EDT
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I thought opiates were like a $20/day habit.
Can you get this person to do any housekeeping or cooking? |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:33:49 PM EDT
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Your daughter is a "them"? Tranny?
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:42:19 PM EDT
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See this and have this talk with families all the time and here is the truth.
Heroin addicts only have a few options for outcomes: 1. They break the law bad enough and go to jail, 95% relapse after getting out of jail Fact 2. They OD and die. 3. THEY chose to go into rehab and make it stick. But in order to do it they have to make major changes, and one of the most important is leaving that entire past behind. The best thing is to move away, because if they stay in the same area they will run into their old user buddies. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:44:25 PM EDT
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start buying them monster energy and rock star energy. tell them to drink 10-20 cans a day and they wont have to use herione anymore. trust me , it works. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:47:52 PM EDT
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Pics of hypothetical heroin addicted daughter?  |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This may be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read here. 
drinking a ton of them (chug 10 or more) + heroin will cause you to quit early. |
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Posted: 12/26/2017 9:50:22 PM EDT
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