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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:40:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't the 60s or the 80s anymore. The tops on recent jeeps come off in several panels that a single person can manipulate and stack. I'm sure this will be similar. Tons of soft top options are available and are much better than they used to be as well. I'm sure those manufacturers will be tripping over themselves making them available for the bronco as well. About 1/10 jeeps I see are sporting the hard top, the vast majority have a soft top of some sort. It's probably the #1 sales appeal to the cheerleaders and soccer moms who buy most of them. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:42:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean that professionally produced video wasn't hidden camera footage from/by an enthusiast forum?  In a world of unibody, FWD based "tall car" CUVs with classic nameplates stuck on them, it sure is nice to see something different. They are morons if they don't do a Raptor version. ETA: I bet the 2 doors make up like 10% of units sold. There is a reason nobody really does 2 door SUVs anymore. I see 4 door JLs everywhere, seldom see a 2 door. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Worked for Ford for the past 2 years... Bronco Nation is ran by Ford. /thread You mean that professionally produced video wasn't hidden camera footage from/by an enthusiast forum? In a world of unibody, FWD based "tall car" CUVs with classic nameplates stuck on them, it sure is nice to see something different. They are morons if they don't do a Raptor version. ETA: I bet the 2 doors make up like 10% of units sold. There is a reason nobody really does 2 door SUVs anymore. I see 4 door JLs everywhere, seldom see a 2 door. Two door JKs and JLs look weird because I'm just not used to seeing them. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:47:25 AM EDT
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Still want the Ford Troller.
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:48:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just hope they aren't as bad as the explorers but I'm afraid they will be. Our 13 Explorer built in the spring of 2012 is the nicest car we have ever owned, it is loaded with options and safety equipment, fast, good mpg, quiet, handles great, and is capable of driving Alaska winters with typical highway tires, if anything it is a remarkable vehicle. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:50:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn’t the 60s or the 80s anymore. The tops on recent jeeps come off in several panels that a single person can manipulate and stack. I’m sure this will be similar. Tons of soft top options are available and are much better than they used to be as well. I’m sure those manufacturers will be tripping over themselves making them available for the bronco as well. About 1/10 jeeps I see are sporting the hard top, the vast majority have a soft top of some sort. It’s probably the #1 sales appeal to the cheerleaders and soccer moms who buy most of them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, I'm liking that two door a lot. Same. Especially if the roof is removable.  I doubt the larger model would fit a Coyote, although the new push rod motor would slip in 7.3 would make the Bronco a monster, Ford could always shorten the stroke to get it down around 396 to 400 cu inches which is plenty to make anything Bronco size a Tiger among animals destined for lunch. Boosted there is really no need to use the larger 3.5 when you have the stellar performing 2.7, my favorite modern Ford engine. Get the baby Sport model under 4k lbs with lots of aluminum and it would smoke most cars with a 2.7 ecoboost in F150 tune. It isn’t the 60s or the 80s anymore. The tops on recent jeeps come off in several panels that a single person can manipulate and stack. I’m sure this will be similar. Tons of soft top options are available and are much better than they used to be as well. I’m sure those manufacturers will be tripping over themselves making them available for the bronco as well. About 1/10 jeeps I see are sporting the hard top, the vast majority have a soft top of some sort. It’s probably the #1 sales appeal to the cheerleaders and soccer moms who buy most of them.  What part of MO are you in that you're seeing that? |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:55:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks lifted a bit, taller and wider tires and rims, OR tread, gotta wonder what else Ford did that you can't see. Looks like very poor articulation suspension wise even if it's tweaked a bit. Toyota would kill it IF they could find a way to import the Land Cruisers they sell to the rest of the world. LX 460 |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:56:25 AM EDT
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I may buy one just to piss off all the naysayers here.
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:56:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bad as the Explorers, you mean the most popular #1 selling SUV in the country? I fucking swear people are such prima donnas that think Ford or whoever should build them one off custom vehicles to order and do it in two weeks for $25k or less. Our 13 Explorer built in the spring of 2012 is the nicest car we have ever owned, it is loaded with options and safety equipment, fast, good mpg, quiet, handles great, and is capable of driving Alaska winters with typical highway tires, if anything it is a remarkable vehicle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just hope they aren't as bad as the explorers but I'm afraid they will be. Our 13 Explorer built in the spring of 2012 is the nicest car we have ever owned, it is loaded with options and safety equipment, fast, good mpg, quiet, handles great, and is capable of driving Alaska winters with typical highway tires, if anything it is a remarkable vehicle. Ford badly botched the launch of the 6th gen Explorer. I'd say it probably had the worst launch of any vehicle I can think of in recent memory. Ford was shipping thousands of units directly from Chicago Assembly (where they're built) to Flat Rock Assembly for repairs. The fiasco torpedoed Ford's earning reports before COVID hit. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:57:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope it doesn't have a lame 270-285hp engine. This could be fucking amazing with 350hp. They are frigging fast as hell for a full size truck. That little motor is strong with amazing torque. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 11:57:24 AM EDT
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this is gonna cut into the jeep market
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:03:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't turn my nose up at a 3.5 EB. It probably won't be an option though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love my Toyota's , my next vehicle will be a SUV and this thing is very tempting Depends on what engine. 5.0 coyote...heck yeah. Only one of their eco-boost engines...hard pass. I wouldn't turn my nose up at a 3.5 EB. It probably won't be an option though. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:06:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: this, dont get me wrong. with a nice NA v6 or even a coyote v8 they could be legit if priced low enough. but none of that will happen. they will be under spec'd and over priced and will be just like the t-bird remake that didnt sell. Why would you want a gutless NA V6? 
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't the 60s or the 80s anymore. The tops on recent jeeps come off in several panels that a single person can manipulate and stack. I'm sure this will be similar. Tons of soft top options are available and are much better than they used to be as well. I'm sure those manufacturers will be tripping over themselves making them available for the bronco as well. About 1/10 jeeps I see are sporting the hard top, the vast majority have a soft top of some sort. It's probably the #1 sales appeal to the cheerleaders and soccer moms who buy most of them. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:11:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A modular top would be bad ass. Sides that could come off would be nice. When I had a soft top TJ I rarely took the top off. Just the sides and the door sides. Thats how the spy photos released last fall showed the top, including the built in racks in the rear to store the pieces upright. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:13:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll give Ford a year or two to work the bugs out, then depending on reliabilty ratings, maybe buy one. also not gonna pay the scalper prices at the debut |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:16:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see the appeal of removing my perfectly good hard top only to install a fucking tent where it used to be. I'm sure they're quiet and great when it snows two feet though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It isn't the 60s or the 80s anymore. The tops on recent jeeps come off in several panels that a single person can manipulate and stack. I'm sure this will be similar. Tons of soft top options are available and are much better than they used to be as well. I'm sure those manufacturers will be tripping over themselves making them available for the bronco as well. About 1/10 jeeps I see are sporting the hard top, the vast majority have a soft top of some sort. It's probably the #1 sales appeal to the cheerleaders and soccer moms who buy most of them. So buy one of the 5 dozen SUVs and CUVs without removable tops. The convertible top sells a fuckload more jeeps than the solid front axle does. Ford is wisely building this for that market. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:38:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bad as the Explorers, you mean the most popular #1 selling SUV in the country? I fucking swear people are such prima donnas that think Ford or whoever should build them one off custom vehicles to order and do it in two weeks for $25k or less. Our 13 Explorer built in the spring of 2012 is the nicest car we have ever owned, it is loaded with options and safety equipment, fast, good mpg, quiet, handles great, and is capable of driving Alaska winters with typical highway tires, if anything it is a remarkable vehicle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just hope they aren't as bad as the explorers but I'm afraid they will be. Our 13 Explorer built in the spring of 2012 is the nicest car we have ever owned, it is loaded with options and safety equipment, fast, good mpg, quiet, handles great, and is capable of driving Alaska winters with typical highway tires, if anything it is a remarkable vehicle. Maybe you should look at the context of my statement and our conversation and then calm down. I hate seeing these vehicles regularly go over $50,000 with the good engine and that’s a lot of money. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:45:49 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't the 60s or the 80s anymore. The tops on recent jeeps come off in several panels that a single person can manipulate and stack. I'm sure this will be similar. Tons of soft top options are available and are much better than they used to be as well. I'm sure those manufacturers will be tripping over themselves making them available for the bronco as well. About 1/10 jeeps I see are sporting the hard top, the vast majority have a soft top of some sort. It's probably the #1 sales appeal to the cheerleaders and soccer moms who buy most of them. Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't the 60s or the 80s anymore. The tops on recent jeeps come off in several panels that a single person can manipulate and stack. I'm sure this will be similar. Tons of soft top options are available and are much better than they used to be as well. I'm sure those manufacturers will be tripping over themselves making them available for the bronco as well. About 1/10 jeeps I see are sporting the hard top, the vast majority have a soft top of some sort. It's probably the #1 sales appeal to the cheerleaders and soccer moms who buy most of them. Quoted: My opinion: the removable roof is the single least desirable option ever in this class of vehicle. This is from the owner of a 74 and 84 K5 Blazer plus I rode around in 60s and 80s Broncos owned by friends many times. My high school GF had a 66 with a 289, by far the most wanted model for Bronco fans today. First thing is if you take the roof off you need someplace safe to put it, I recall one dumbass who got his top off and immediately backed over it. Also don't lose those bolts and trim pieces. Count on it raining as soon as you get 30 minutes from home. Riding in an open top Bronco or Blazer wasn't really pleasant, too cold and windy here, too hot and dirty in the desert. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:52:17 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ditto also not gonna pay the scalper prices at the debut Agreed. I'm betting they'll go over MSRP the first few months. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:59:15 PM EDT
[#20]
At 0.25, it kind of looks like it has the system that the Land Cruiser has where you can lock the rear inboard tire on a turn allowing you to turn tighter.
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Posted: 6/1/2020 1:03:44 PM EDT
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I call that a mild trail ride.
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Posted: 6/1/2020 1:06:26 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted: I think there's exactly a 0% chance this "leaked" video isn't something officially sanctioned from Ford.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW3sH5YVhn4About the source: "Bronco Nation is an independent enthusiast community and the first to be nationally recognized and certified by Ford. Built by a passionate and knowledgeable community of enthusiasts, Bronco Nation celebrates an iconic brand and encourages everyone that loves Bronco to join the nation. Exclusive news, community forums, events, interactive maps, helpful how-to content, and historical archives are just a few of the features that will inspire members to get the most out of their Bronco and their next adventure. Find information, find the wild, find a community of owners like you – find it first at Bronco Nation." https://community.thebronconation.com/about/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L32P0L0zEY0The Bronco was supposed to debut at NYIAS in April, but that whole COVID thing... I'd guess it debuts in June. Should I be impressed by a redesigned Ford Escape driving through some puddles and mud? |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 3:57:11 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: thats retarded, unless you get an HO 3.5 the 2.7 is quicker in daily driving. Nothing against Coyotes but they are too wide to fit in smaller vehicles, and I would rather have the little turbos than a mile of timing chains Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love my Toyota's , my next vehicle will be a SUV and this thing is very tempting Depends on what engine. 5.0 coyote...heck yeah. Only one of their eco-boost engines...hard pass. I wouldn't turn my nose up at a 3.5 EB. It probably won't be an option though. I think that's been debunked as "feeling" faster. The quarter mile tests i saw, show the 3.5 and 5.0 outrunning the 2.7. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:24:42 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ETA: I like your avatar. Quote HistoryQuoted: ETA: I like your avatar. Quoted:  High school buddy tried and tried, jim beam and black throated wind set the hook.Uncle John's Band on AM radio when it first came out planted the seed. Side one "This Side" of Blues for Allah got me. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:35:24 PM EDT
[#25]
Watch at the :27 second mark...
Tight left hand turn... front wheel is spinning while the rear wheel locks up , interdasting.... |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:37:11 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Watch at the :27 second mark... Tight left hand turn... front wheel is spinning while the rear wheel locks up , interdasting.... I noticed it. Does that actually help when off road? I kind of think the last thing I want is for one of my wheels to stop turning if I am in difficult to traverse terrain. Am I wrong about that? |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 4:42:40 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think my wife is going to get one. Yeah, mine too. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 6:39:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should I be impressed by a redesigned Ford Escape driving through some puddles and mud? That isn't anything like an Escape.... Now the Bronco Sport on the other hand, IS based of the escape but that isn't this. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 7:04:01 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I noticed it. Does that actually help when off road? I kind of think the last thing I want is for one of my wheels to stop turning if I am in difficult to traverse terrain. Am I wrong about that? Yes, you are wrong It's a very popular mod done by offroaders (twin-stick transfer case), which cuts power going to the rear wheels and sends it all to the front. This allows the driver to lock the rear brakes and use the front axle to pull the vehicle in a much tighter turning radius. Competition trail rigs use it a lot because the courses get tighter and tighter, as the drivers are running against the clock. Doing a 3+ point turn, or hitting a cone adds a lot of time to the clock... |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 7:10:19 PM EDT
[#30]
I think the new Bronco is going to be similar to the Mustang when it first came out. It's going to be a chick magnet. The girls will think they are 'cute', just sporty enough for them, and the top will come off so they can look sexy driving it too...
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Posted: 6/1/2020 7:34:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: Yes, you are wrong It's a very popular mod done by offroaders (twin-stick transfer case), which cuts power going to the rear wheels and sends it all to the front. This allows the driver to lock the rear brakes and use the front axle to pull the vehicle in a much tighter turning radius. Competition trail rigs use it a lot because the courses get tighter and tighter, as the drivers are running against the clock. Doing a 3+ point turn, or hitting a cone adds a lot of time to the clock... Don’t forget cutting brakes |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 7:35:25 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I call that a mild trail ride. |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 8:30:05 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the new Bronco is going to be similar to the Mustang when it first came out. It's going to be a chick magnet. The girls will think they are 'cute', just sporty enough for them, and the top will come off so they can look sexy driving it too...
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Posted: 6/4/2020 3:21:59 PM EDT
[#34]
Ford has made it official that the Bronco event will happen in July.
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Posted: 6/4/2020 3:31:36 PM EDT
[#35]
I already know I'm going to end up with one as my next company vehicle.
I'd like a 2dr. But I know I'm going to end up with a 4dr. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 4:02:19 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: I already know I'm going to end up with one as my next company vehicle. I'd like a 2dr. But I know I'm going to end up with a 4dr. Don’t you hate it when adulting gets in the way of fun |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 4:11:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don’t you hate it when adulting gets in the way of fun Longer wheelbase = More fun. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 4:12:51 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ford has made it official that the Bronco event will happen in July. Of what year? |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 5:01:27 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Longer wheelbase = More fun. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don’t you hate it when adulting gets in the way of fun Longer wheelbase = More fun. While I do get to pick the trim, I don't think I'll take a company vehicle seriously off roading. But I've been told by my boss (my dad) that I'm getting a new bronco when they come out to replace my F150. Because he loves broncos. Whatever, free truck. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 5:36:01 PM EDT
[#40]
What are those weird little accent pieces on the front of the hood? Why are there holes in them? Are they removeable?
 ETA I had the displeasure to rent one of these the last time I was in Hawaii. Those bubbled out lights on each corner were annoying a F.  Giant blind spots. 
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Posted: 6/4/2020 5:42:09 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: While I do get to pick the trim, I don't think I'll take a company vehicle seriously off roading. But I've been told by my boss (my dad) that I'm getting a new bronco when they come out to replace my F150. Because he loves broncos. Whatever, free truck. I’d use it to replace my paid low mile impreza for my commute to work. Never happen but that’s what I’d do. Quoted: What are those weird little accent pieces on the front of the hood? Why are there holes in them? Are they removeable? https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/bronc-1583933252.jpg?resize=768:* I seem to remember something about that’s what hold the good when folded all the way back but not sure. There was a bunch of discussion when the pics first came out and everyone was guessing. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 6:03:21 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What are those weird little accent pieces on the front of the hood? Why are there holes in them? Are they removeable? https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/bronc-1583933252.jpg?resize=768:* ETA I had the displeasure to rent one of these the last time I was in Hawaii. Those bubbled out lights on each corner were annoying a F. Giant blind spots.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/2013_Nissan_Juke_Tekna_1.6.jpg/1200px-2013_Nissan_Juke_Tekna_1.6.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_88V-ip23gTg/SjGQiVKpm6I/AAAAAAAAAfQ/dE_izn7aat0/s400/horse-blinders.jpg Ya know, I'm not going to say the Juke is a great looking car or that those design elements didn't have an unnecessary effect like you described, but dammit if I didn't respect Nissan for at least putting out something that wasn't cookie cutter like everybody else. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 6:35:07 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What are those weird little accent pieces on the front of the hood? Why are there holes in them? Are they removeable? https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/bronc-1583933252.jpg?resize=768:* ETA I had the displeasure to rent one of these the last time I was in Hawaii. Those bubbled out lights on each corner were annoying a F. Giant blind spots.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/2013_Nissan_Juke_Tekna_1.6.jpg/1200px-2013_Nissan_Juke_Tekna_1.6.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_88V-ip23gTg/SjGQiVKpm6I/AAAAAAAAAfQ/dE_izn7aat0/s400/horse-blinders.jpg I think they’re a place to tie limb risers. Pretty handy if so. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 6:39:02 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't turn my nose up at a 3.5 EB. It probably won't be an option though. I would love the 3.5. But I think ford has a 3.0 (derived from the 2.7) that they're going to use. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 6:40:58 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Worked for Ford for the past 2 years... Bronco Nation is ran by Ford. /thread When is the dividend coming back? |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 6:44:16 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LX 460 Think you mean gx. LX gets the 5.7 (570) but is LC 200 sized. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 6:45:50 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: this is gonna cut into the jeep market I concur. I'm a Toyota guy, was about to buy a used GX but put it off. Want to at least see this thing first. I may buy one after the initial rush. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 6:48:24 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Should I be impressed by a redesigned Ford Escape driving through some puddles and mud? I wouldn't be. But this bronco looks interesting. |
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Posted: 6/4/2020 7:29:25 PM EDT
[#49]
I hope this doesn't turn out to be a parts bin special. It really deserves a clean slate build for the price they will be charging.
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Posted: 6/4/2020 8:43:23 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would love the 3.5. But I think ford has a 3.0 (derived from the 2.7) that they're going to use. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wouldn't turn my nose up at a 3.5 EB. It probably won't be an option though. I would love the 3.5. But I think ford has a 3.0 (derived from the 2.7) that they're going to use. I just assumed they would be the 2.3 at least as a base just like all the rangers. |
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