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Posted: 10/3/2021 1:25:05 PM EDT
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note "Wannabe NTSB'ers"
so far in this thread no one has posted the correct reason for this crash 
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Posted: 10/3/2021 5:01:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: note "Wannabe NTSB'ers" so far in this thread no one has posted the correct reason for this crash You dirty rat, it has to be that it wasn't a C130, amiright? That's what I'm going to go with. I can pull the accident report and look... but from what I am seeing here, and I am only looking at the video, i assume it to be a hot day with high humidity? If that density altitude were mo'betta he likely could have pulled it off. Possibles are old gas, heavy pilot, or car gas as these are shit I see all the time too. |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 5:04:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You dirty rat, it has to be that it wasn't a C130, amiright? That's what I'm going to go with. I can pull the accident report and look... but from what I am seeing here, and I am only looking at the video, i assume it to be a hot day with high humidity? If that density altitude were mo'betta he likely could have pulled it off. Possibles are old gas, heavy pilot, or car gas as these are shit I see all the time too. I don't even have a license, but I know the first things to consider when an airplane crashes on takeoff. And not a single one of you wannabes has even mentioned it yet.  |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 5:07:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pilot error.  Excessive dumbshitted move, lack of planning for the departure. Idiotic at the controls. |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 5:10:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excessive dumbshitted move, lack of planning for the departure. Idiotic at the controls. incorrect crash cause was none of those things |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 5:24:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: incorrect crash cause was none of those things Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Excessive dumbshitted move, lack of planning for the departure. Idiotic at the controls. incorrect crash cause was none of those things Too much gravity for available lift? |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 5:27:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Too much gravity for available lift? broad brush paintings don't meet the reserve  |
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Posted: 10/3/2021 5:28:51 PM EDT
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Harrison Ford?
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Posted: 10/3/2021 5:28:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't even have a license, but I know the first things to consider when an airplane crashes on takeoff. And not a single one of you wannabes has even mentioned it yet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You dirty rat, it has to be that it wasn't a C130, amiright? That's what I'm going to go with. I can pull the accident report and look... but from what I am seeing here, and I am only looking at the video, i assume it to be a hot day with high humidity? If that density altitude were mo'betta he likely could have pulled it off. Possibles are old gas, heavy pilot, or car gas as these are shit I see all the time too. I don't even have a license, but I know the first things to consider when an airplane crashes on takeoff. And not a single one of you wannabes has even mentioned it yet. Gravity! |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:16:42 PM EDT
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the REAL NTSB prelim report was released today
none of the lynchmob here got it right
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:24:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the REAL NTSB prelim report was released today none of the lynchmob here got it right Lynch Mob? LOL The preliminary says pretty much what was posted.. "The aircraft received substantial damage upon impact with a traffic signal and wires and subsequent crash to the pavement during a takeoff attempt from Highway 124 in Winnie Stowell, Texas. The pilot, the sole occupant, received minor injuries. The aircraft was returning to Chambers County-Winnie Stowell Airport (T90), Texas,after participating in the Texas Rice Festival parade. The aircraft was towed to the location for the parade but, because of weather moving in, the pilot decided to attempt a takeoff from Highway 124 back to the airport. The airport is located about 2.5 miles West of the accident site." I would, with confidence say.. The final report will put the crash squarely on the pilot fucking up. 
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:28:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lynch Mob? LOL The preliminary says pretty much what was posted.. "The aircraft received substantial damage upon impact with a traffic signal and wires and subsequent crash to the pavement during a takeoff attempt from Highway 124 in Winnie Stowell, Texas. The pilot, the sole occupant, received minor injuries. The aircraft was returning to Chambers County-Winnie Stowell Airport (T90), Texas,after participating in the Texas Rice Festival parade. The aircraft was towed to the location for the parade but, because of weather moving in, the pilot decided to attempt a takeoff from Highway 124 back to the airport. The airport is located about 2.5 miles West of the accident site." I would, with confidence say.. The final report will put the crash squarely on the pilot fucking up. nope, you missed it again, Mr. Wannabe NTSB'er. note: "released today", not some rehash of old news |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:39:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nope, you missed it again, Mr. Wannabe NTSB'er. note: "released today", not some rehash of old news Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lynch Mob? LOL The preliminary says pretty much what was posted.. "The aircraft received substantial damage upon impact with a traffic signal and wires and subsequent crash to the pavement during a takeoff attempt from Highway 124 in Winnie Stowell, Texas. The pilot, the sole occupant, received minor injuries. The aircraft was returning to Chambers County-Winnie Stowell Airport (T90), Texas,after participating in the Texas Rice Festival parade. The aircraft was towed to the location for the parade but, because of weather moving in, the pilot decided to attempt a takeoff from Highway 124 back to the airport. The airport is located about 2.5 miles West of the accident site." I would, with confidence say.. The final report will put the crash squarely on the pilot fucking up. nope, you missed it again, Mr. Wannabe NTSB'er. note: "released today", not some rehash of old news LOL Well then tell us mr smarty pants. 
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:42:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL Well then tell us mr smarty pants. nope I don't even have a license but I knew enough to question the fundamentals of why a plane crashes on takeoff. And you hoopleheads even had VIDEOS of the event. Good lesson taught here. I swear, GD's a bad as Facebook. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:46:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nope I don't even have a license but I knew enough to question the fundamentals of why a plane crashes on takeoff. And you hoopleheads even had VIDEOS of the event. Good lesson taught here. I swear, GD's a bad as Facebook. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL Well then tell us mr smarty pants. nope I don't even have a license but I knew enough to question the fundamentals of why a plane crashes on takeoff. And you hoopleheads even had VIDEOS of the event. Good lesson taught here. I swear, GD's a bad as Facebook.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:51:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't stop laughing at this video even though I know someone just lost an expensive toy. Is there anyway to save the video? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
I can't stop laughing at this video even though I know someone just lost an expensive toy. Is there anyway to save the video? That should be a new 'in' meme. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:52:39 PM EDT
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I think I know what you are looking for..
It didn't sound like he lost power to me. On either of the videos.  |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:53:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nope, you missed it again, Mr. Wannabe NTSB'er. note: "released today", not some rehash of old news Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lynch Mob? LOL The preliminary says pretty much what was posted.. "The aircraft received substantial damage upon impact with a traffic signal and wires and subsequent crash to the pavement during a takeoff attempt from Highway 124 in Winnie Stowell, Texas. The pilot, the sole occupant, received minor injuries. The aircraft was returning to Chambers County-Winnie Stowell Airport (T90), Texas,after participating in the Texas Rice Festival parade. The aircraft was towed to the location for the parade but, because of weather moving in, the pilot decided to attempt a takeoff from Highway 124 back to the airport. The airport is located about 2.5 miles West of the accident site." I would, with confidence say.. The final report will put the crash squarely on the pilot fucking up. nope, you missed it again, Mr. Wannabe NTSB'er. note: "released today", not some rehash of old news Clearly, you are trolling at this point. 2.5 miles, he should have just taxied there. It was caused by overconfidence and complacency. Same as any other, but just more obvious. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:54:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I know what you are looking for.. It didn't sound like he lost power to me. On either of the videos. There is a "loss of power" and a "total loss of power". Any loss of power on a short runway blocked by LEO vehicles is puckerville. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:56:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clearly, you are trolling at this point. 2.5 miles, he should have just taxied there. It was caused by overconfidence and complacency. Same as any other, but just more obvious. FAA prelim disagrees with you, Karnak 
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:58:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a "loss of power" and a "total loss of power". Any loss of power on a short runway blocked by LEO vehicles is puckerville. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think I know what you are looking for.. It didn't sound like he lost power to me. On either of the videos. There is a "loss of power" and a "total loss of power". Any loss of power on a short runway blocked by LEO vehicles is puckerville. Oh. I get that. If he lost power, It didn't sound like it happened in flight. Maybe he should have done a run up before going off to the wild blue. He would have known he was down on power. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:00:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FAA prelim disagrees with you, Karnak https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/carson1-2118423.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Clearly, you are trolling at this point. 2.5 miles, he should have just taxied there. It was caused by overconfidence and complacency. Same as any other, but just more obvious. FAA prelim disagrees with you, Karnak https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/carson1-2118423.jpg "This report is preliminary and subject to change." We shall see. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh. I get that. If he lost power, It didn't sound like it happened in flight. Maybe he should have done a run up before going off to the wild blue. He would have known he was down on power. You know for certain what transpired before the video began? Amazing |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:01:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What fell off the plane as it went over the intersection? Nothing fell off the plane. His landing gear hit a light pole. After that, he went ker-splat. Probably lost too much airspeed after hitting the light pole. As others have said, pilot error. Only a total moron thinks roads are good for taking off and landing aircraft. They're full of obstructions. Streets signs, lights, fences, mail boxes, mile markers, and roads are narrow. They aren't wide enough for your wings. Trying to take off or land on one is just asking to have your wings clipped. Or your landing gear, in this case. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:01:52 PM EDT
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Looks like they only went half send in a full send zone.
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:02:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "This report is preliminary and subject to change." We shall see. There will be other factors, indeed. But the crash wasn't caused by anything proclaimed as true in this thread. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:04:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FAA prelim disagrees with you, Karnak  |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:05:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know for certain what transpired before the video began? Amazing Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh. I get that. If he lost power, It didn't sound like it happened in flight. Maybe he should have done a run up before going off to the wild blue. He would have known he was down on power. You know for certain what transpired before the video began? Amazing LOL There is video of him rolling out onto the highway and rolling straight into a take off. What I am saying is.. He should have stopped and done a mag check and run up. That would have highlighted any power issues that were occurring prior to take off. Neither of the videos indicate any change of engine sound which would normally be a tell tale to a power loss during take off. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL There is video of him rolling out onto the highway and rolling straight into a take off. What I am saying is.. He should have stopped and done a mag check and run up. That would have highlighted any power issues that were occurring prior to take off. Neither of the videos indicate any change of engine sound which would normally be a tell tale to a power loss during take off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Oh. I get that. If he lost power, It didn't sound like it happened in flight. Maybe he should have done a run up before going off to the wild blue. He would have known he was down on power. You know for certain what transpired before the video began? Amazing LOL There is video of him rolling out onto the highway and rolling straight into a take off. What I am saying is.. He should have stopped and done a mag check and run up. That would have highlighted any power issues that were occurring prior to take off. Neither of the videos indicate any change of engine sound which would normally be a tell tale to a power loss during take off. I'm guessing he's looking for some kind of dumb ass answer like "the aircraft quit flying". As you said, from the sound of the engine it wasn't anything like a fuel selector left in the "off" position or anything like that. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:17:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL There is video of him rolling out onto the highway and rolling straight into a take off. What I am saying is.. He should have stopped and done a mag check and run up. That would have highlighted any power issues that were occurring prior to take off. Neither of the videos indicate any change of engine sound which would normally be a tell tale to a power loss during take off. So, you're certain he didn't do a warmup, mag check, and run up prior to the video? I understand there's "certain" and "GD certain".
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:17:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm guessing he's looking for some kind of dumb ass answer like "the aircraft quit flying". As you said, from the sound of the engine it wasn't anything like a fuel selector left in the "off" position or anything like that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Oh. I get that. If he lost power, It didn't sound like it happened in flight. Maybe he should have done a run up before going off to the wild blue. He would have known he was down on power. You know for certain what transpired before the video began? Amazing LOL There is video of him rolling out onto the highway and rolling straight into a take off. What I am saying is.. He should have stopped and done a mag check and run up. That would have highlighted any power issues that were occurring prior to take off. Neither of the videos indicate any change of engine sound which would normally be a tell tale to a power loss during take off. I'm guessing he's looking for some kind of dumb ass answer like "the aircraft quit flying". As you said, from the sound of the engine it wasn't anything like a fuel selector left in the "off" position or anything like that. Usually if the engine gets starved of fuel under power you will hear a rather loud lean pop or series of them. Usually if it dumped a cylinder under power it will pop and fart. It was doing neither of those in either video. The preliminary report is usually based on witnesses and the pilot. The subject to change part is because they will tear that engine and plane apart and find out if there was in fact an issue. Hell It could have been down on power, Did the pilot do a run up and mag check? Did he check that the throttle was free and working prior to rolling out and taking off? There are a lot of variables.. If he did neither of those.. It is just as well pilot error if that contributed to his crash. Like I say.. We will see. I may be wrong.. But I am pretty confident we will see the final report pointing to the pilot. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:20:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, you're certain he didn't do a warmup, mag check, and run up prior to the video? I understand there's "certain" and "GD certain". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL There is video of him rolling out onto the highway and rolling straight into a take off. What I am saying is.. He should have stopped and done a mag check and run up. That would have highlighted any power issues that were occurring prior to take off. Neither of the videos indicate any change of engine sound which would normally be a tell tale to a power loss during take off. So, you're certain he didn't do a warmup, mag check, and run up prior to the video? I understand there's "certain" and "GD certain". Maybe he did. But.. If he did, How did he not know there was a power loss prior to take off? |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:20:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Usually if the engine gets starved of fuel under power you will hear a rather loud lean pop or series of them. Usually if it dumped a cylinder under power it will pop and fart. It was doing neither of those in either video. The preliminary report is usually based on witnesses and the pilot. The subject to change part is because they will tear that engine and plane apart and find out if there was in fact an issue. Hell It could have been down on power, Did the pilot do a run up and mag check? Did he check that the throttle was free and working prior to rolling out and taking off? There are a lot of variables.. If he did neither of those.. It is just as well pilot error if that contributed to his crash. Like I say.. We will see. I may be wrong.. But I am pretty confident we will see the final report pointing to the pilot. I know what happened. And none of keyboard the aviators in this thread got it. The GD truth hurts, but are we not MEN? |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:22:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know what happened. And none of keyboard the aviators in this thread got it. The GD truth hurts, but are we not MEN? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Usually if the engine gets starved of fuel under power you will hear a rather loud lean pop or series of them. Usually if it dumped a cylinder under power it will pop and fart. It was doing neither of those in either video. The preliminary report is usually based on witnesses and the pilot. The subject to change part is because they will tear that engine and plane apart and find out if there was in fact an issue. Hell It could have been down on power, Did the pilot do a run up and mag check? Did he check that the throttle was free and working prior to rolling out and taking off? There are a lot of variables.. If he did neither of those.. It is just as well pilot error if that contributed to his crash. Like I say.. We will see. I may be wrong.. But I am pretty confident we will see the final report pointing to the pilot. I know what happened. And none of keyboard the aviators in this thread got it. The GD truth hurts, but are we not MEN? Hey! If i'm wrong.. so be it. I would rather it have been an actual unforseen problem than a pilot doing something dumbassed. Instead of playing coy then spit it out. I am assuming you know the pilot. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:31:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know what happened. And none of keyboard the aviators in this thread got it. The GD truth hurts, but are we not MEN?
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:43:02 PM EDT
[#36]
Pilot is ok, just got a broken rib and some bruises. Good guy that's flown for many years.
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:46:51 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey! If i'm wrong.. so be it. I would rather it have been an actual unforseen problem than a pilot doing something dumbassed. Instead of playing coy then spit it out. I am assuming you know the pilot. LEO cars had blocked off the highway with plenty of room for a normal Yellow Peril takeoff. Just past takeoff abort distance (remember there are multiple LEO cars blocking the highway in front of him) the engine loses power but just as quickly regains full power. Controls are established but by now are mushy. Decision time: avert to the right ditch - possible hit many civilians watching along the road after the parade fly straight into the LEO cars - kill yourself and cops gain enough altitude to make if over the TRAFFIC CONTROL WIRES - maybe dodge the bullet He chose option #3. Hitting the small fixture on the left street light reduced both speed and altitude enough to put him into the traffic light wires. Life save by the fuel tank over his head remaining intact and the angle of the hit not folding the radial back into his lap. He's going to be ok and no one else was hurt. But none of the NTSB Wannabe's thought about a mechanical issue. Instead, everyone lambasted the pilot, a good pilot btw. But that's what we do in GD, amirite? |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:48:33 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pilot is ok, just got a broken rib and some bruises. Good guy that's flown for many years. He is a lucky man.. That is a testament to the toughness of that old bird. That was a wild crash. Hopefully I am wrong in my assessment. I have lost too many friends and acquaintances to crashes. I don't like to see blame placed on the pilots. But in so many cases these things could have been prevented. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:49:49 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FAA prelim disagrees with you, Karnak https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/carson1-2118423.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Clearly, you are trolling at this point. 2.5 miles, he should have just taxied there. It was caused by overconfidence and complacency. Same as any other, but just more obvious. FAA prelim disagrees with you, Karnak https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/carson1-2118423.jpg Are you suggesting the pilot was an Affirmative Action hire? That’s a hell of a claim. You're gonna have to provide proof. Lets see a picture. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:51:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LEO cars had blocked off the highway with plenty of room for a normal Yellow Peril takeoff. Just past takeoff abort distance (remember there are multiple LEO cars blocking the highway in front of him) the engine loses power but just as quickly regains full power. Controls are established but by now are mushy. Decision time: avert to the right ditch - possible hit many civilians watching along the road after the parade fly straight into the LEO cars - kill yourself and cops gain enough altitude to make if over the TRAFFIC CONTROL WIRES - maybe dodge the bullet He chose option #3. Hitting the small fixture on the left street light reduced both speed and altitude enough to put him into the traffic light wires. Life save by the fuel tank over his head remaining intact and the angle of the hit not folding the radial back into his lap. He's going to be ok and no one else was hurt. But none of the NTSB Wannabe's thought about a mechanical issue. Instead, everyone lambasted the pilot, a good pilot btw. But that's what we do in GD, amirite? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hey! If i'm wrong.. so be it. I would rather it have been an actual unforseen problem than a pilot doing something dumbassed. Instead of playing coy then spit it out. I am assuming you know the pilot. LEO cars had blocked off the highway with plenty of room for a normal Yellow Peril takeoff. Just past takeoff abort distance (remember there are multiple LEO cars blocking the highway in front of him) the engine loses power but just as quickly regains full power. Controls are established but by now are mushy. Decision time: avert to the right ditch - possible hit many civilians watching along the road after the parade fly straight into the LEO cars - kill yourself and cops gain enough altitude to make if over the TRAFFIC CONTROL WIRES - maybe dodge the bullet He chose option #3. Hitting the small fixture on the left street light reduced both speed and altitude enough to put him into the traffic light wires. Life save by the fuel tank over his head remaining intact and the angle of the hit not folding the radial back into his lap. He's going to be ok and no one else was hurt. But none of the NTSB Wannabe's thought about a mechanical issue. Instead, everyone lambasted the pilot, a good pilot btw. But that's what we do in GD, amirite? Pilots are a pilots worst critic. There is a reason for that. I don't think I would have taken the risk of taking off where he did. Way too many variables. If he makes it out of that mess without the FAA arse fucking him hopefully he will have learned a valuable lesson. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:51:51 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pilot is ok, just got a broken rib and some bruises. Good guy that's flown for many years. Are you Him? “Good guy that’s flown for many years” means literally nothing. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:53:23 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you Him? “Good guy that’s flown for many years” means literally nothing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pilot is ok, just got a broken rib and some bruises. Good guy that's flown for many years. Are you Him? “Good guy that’s flown for many years” means literally nothing. I have known a few "good guys that have flown for many years" That are now dead guys.  |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you Him? “Good guy that’s flown for many years” means literally nothing. local guy with many hours and a good rep |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:55:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: local guy with many hours and a good rep No one here was smart enough to even guess "mechanical problem" was a factor. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:59:28 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LEO cars had blocked off the highway with plenty of room for a normal Yellow Peril takeoff. Just past takeoff abort distance (remember there are multiple LEO cars blocking the highway in front of him) the engine loses power but just as quickly regains full power. Controls are established but by now are mushy. Decision time: avert to the right ditch - possible hit many civilians watching along the road after the parade fly straight into the LEO cars - kill yourself and cops gain enough altitude to make if over the TRAFFIC CONTROL WIRES - maybe dodge the bullet He chose option #3. Hitting the small fixture on the left street light reduced both speed and altitude enough to put him into the traffic light wires. Life save by the fuel tank over his head remaining intact and the angle of the hit not folding the radial back into his lap. He's going to be ok and no one else was hurt. But none of the NTSB Wannabe's thought about a mechanical issue. Instead, everyone lambasted the pilot, a good pilot btw. But that's what we do in GD, amirite? So pilot error, as many of us already said. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 8:01:49 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LEO cars had blocked off the highway with plenty of room for a normal Yellow Peril takeoff. Just past takeoff abort distance (remember there are multiple LEO cars blocking the highway in front of him) the engine loses power but just as quickly regains full power. Controls are established but by now are mushy. Decision time: avert to the right ditch - possible hit many civilians watching along the road after the parade fly straight into the LEO cars - kill yourself and cops gain enough altitude to make if over the TRAFFIC CONTROL WIRES - maybe dodge the bullet He chose option #3. Hitting the small fixture on the left street light reduced both speed and altitude enough to put him into the traffic light wires. Life save by the fuel tank over his head remaining intact and the angle of the hit not folding the radial back into his lap. He's going to be ok and no one else was hurt. But none of the NTSB Wannabe's thought about a mechanical issue. Instead, everyone lambasted the pilot, a good pilot btw. But that's what we do in GD, amirite? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hey! If i'm wrong.. so be it. I would rather it have been an actual unforseen problem than a pilot doing something dumbassed. Instead of playing coy then spit it out. I am assuming you know the pilot. LEO cars had blocked off the highway with plenty of room for a normal Yellow Peril takeoff. Just past takeoff abort distance (remember there are multiple LEO cars blocking the highway in front of him) the engine loses power but just as quickly regains full power. Controls are established but by now are mushy. Decision time: avert to the right ditch - possible hit many civilians watching along the road after the parade fly straight into the LEO cars - kill yourself and cops gain enough altitude to make if over the TRAFFIC CONTROL WIRES - maybe dodge the bullet He chose option #3. Hitting the small fixture on the left street light reduced both speed and altitude enough to put him into the traffic light wires. Life save by the fuel tank over his head remaining intact and the angle of the hit not folding the radial back into his lap. He's going to be ok and no one else was hurt. But none of the NTSB Wannabe's thought about a mechanical issue. Instead, everyone lambasted the pilot, a good pilot btw. But that's what we do in GD, amirite? LoL. That’s the story you concoct, if you are lucky enough to survive a life altering fuckup. For anyone reading this that might be hoping to become a pilot some day: The number #1 rule of aviation, is to always leave yourself an out. If you’re taking off from roads after parades, you've already committed gross acts of negligence in judgement, airmanship and common sense. Even if you get away with it, you fucked up bad. There’s no argument otherwise. I might be willing to debate it here strictly for lolz, but in the real world, that’s how it works. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 8:02:25 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So pilot error, as many of us already said. So mechanical problem with none of you said. But retrieve your badge for maintaining the GD tradition. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 8:03:17 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: local guy with many hours and a good rep This guy had a good rep.  So did this guy.  And this guy..  This guy had a stellar reputation. I miss him very much.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 8:05:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LoL. That’s the story you concoct, if you are lucky enough to survive a life altering fuckup. For anyone reading this that might be hoping to become a pilot some day: The number #1 rule of aviation, is to always leave yourself an out. If you’re taking off from roads after parades, you've already committed gross acts of negligence in judgement, airmanship and common sense. Even if you get away with it, you fucked up bad. There’s no argument otherwise. I might be willing to debate it here strictly for lolz, but in the real world, that’s how it works. crop dusters fly every day without an out toward wires, homes, highways, buildings, trees, silos wait, did you suggest a mechanical problems about 3 pages back? |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 8:07:31 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: crop dusters fly every day without an out toward wires, homes, highways, buildings, trees, silos Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LoL. That’s the story you concoct, if you are lucky enough to survive a life altering fuckup. For anyone reading this that might be hoping to become a pilot some day: The number #1 rule of aviation, is to always leave yourself an out. If you’re taking off from roads after parades, you've already committed gross acts of negligence in judgement, airmanship and common sense. Even if you get away with it, you fucked up bad. There’s no argument otherwise. I might be willing to debate it here strictly for lolz, but in the real world, that’s how it works. crop dusters fly every day without an out toward wires, homes, highways, buildings, trees, silos They still have to adhere to minimum separations and altitudes on buildings, vehicles and people. Taking off and landing on roads are frowned upon these days. They used to do it here all the time. |
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