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Posted: 1/5/2015 1:16:20 AM EDT
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Well, get to buildin'. Oh, wait.
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Posted: 1/5/2015 1:23:10 AM EDT
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I bought one. I've seen solutions become available for more complicated builds become available, so as long as these get out in decent quantities, I'm pretty confident we'll see the needed parts made. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that HK93 barrels can be modified to work. I was pleasantly surprised by the price as well, though I suppose this was at least in part due to the above mentioned parts situation. I am looking forward to this one. For me, this sort of thing is as much about the journey as the finished rifle.
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Posted: 1/5/2015 9:50:19 AM EDT
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I think it's neat for a collector/project gun, but I know my A2 clone works, is most likely a superior rifle than this would be, and it's still a safe queen because I grab other guns when I go shooting.
Good luck to those of you taking on this project though. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 9:49:07 PM EDT
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From the sound of things, it looks like an HK93 barrel could be modified to work. So then all we really have to wait for is a receiver, and maybe a compliance part depending, and we'll be in business. But a workable barrel is a major step forward.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 9:08:40 PM EDT
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Got my kit in today. It looks pretty good. Here's hoping I can get it built soon!
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Posted: 1/9/2015 1:51:41 AM EDT
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Got my kit in today. It looks pretty good. Here's hoping I can get it built soon! Pictures?....been watching most of the boards waiting to see who got theirs first and what to expect. Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 10:05:14 AM EDT
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Got my kit in today. It looks pretty good. Here's hoping I can get it built soon! What the Hell? Where is it on their website!? |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 10:25:48 AM EDT
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NVM Found and bought!
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Posted: 1/9/2015 10:29:29 AM EDT
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Intrigued... why did they switch and surplus these out? IIRC they went to the G-36 |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 10:34:38 AM EDT
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Pictures?....been watching most of the boards waiting to see who got theirs first and what to expect. Thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got my kit in today. It looks pretty good. Here's hoping I can get it built soon! Pictures?....been watching most of the boards waiting to see who got theirs first and what to expect. Thanks! I'll grab some after work tonight. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 2:10:46 PM EDT
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Holy crap, that wasn't supposed to arrive until Monday, but the package just got dropped off.
Clearly, the gun saw use over the years...and I can't wait until the reciever/barrel issues are sorted, so it can be a rifle again. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 2:15:12 PM EDT
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Pictures please!
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Posted: 1/9/2015 2:46:16 PM EDT
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Potatopics.
Bear in mind, the flash is really exaggerating everything.   So, buttstock and pistol grip/trigger group.  What I got of the receiver, along with the cocking tube with the handle and other cocking hardware inside of it. Rear sight stuff is already removed and in the smaller parts bag.  Front sight assembly, fore end and handguard, what I presume is the recoil spring, and the bolt carrier group.  Various small parts. Nope, not as pretty as the stock photo of a brand new CETME-L in the OP, but in pretty good shape for a gun that's likely seen decades of use. I wanted a second one at some point anyway, now I really want another so I can keep one "stock", and put a suppressor mount on the other one. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 2:53:44 PM EDT
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Shade, that looks better then I would have thought. Considering the time those were in service.
Fuck I don't need to spend money right now. 
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Posted: 1/9/2015 4:24:40 PM EDT
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Potatopics. Bear in mind, the flash is really exaggerating everything. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_102936_559_zpswedh1hxt.jpg http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_102957_960_zpshlr94irb.jpg So, buttstock and pistol grip/trigger group. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_103050_424_zpsu2ghd569.jpg What I got of the receiver, along with the cocking tube with the handle and other cocking hardware inside of it. Rear sight stuff is already removed and in the smaller parts bag. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_103139_112_zpspa9txnhh.jpg Front sight assembly, fore end and handguard, what I presume is the recoil spring, and the bolt carrier group. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_103348_163_zpsihofdpxb.jpg Various small parts. Nope, not as pretty as the stock photo of a brand new CETME-L in the OP, but in pretty good shape for a gun that's likely seen decades of use. I wanted a second one at some point anyway, now I really want another so I can keep one "stock", and put a suppressor mount on the other one. Nothing a little spit shine can't fix. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 4:28:12 PM EDT
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Potatopics. Bear in mind, the flash is really exaggerating everything. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_102936_559_zpswedh1hxt.jpg http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_102957_960_zpshlr94irb.jpg So, buttstock and pistol grip/trigger group. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_103050_424_zpsu2ghd569.jpg What I got of the receiver, along with the cocking tube with the handle and other cocking hardware inside of it. Rear sight stuff is already removed and in the smaller parts bag. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_103139_112_zpspa9txnhh.jpg Front sight assembly, fore end and handguard, what I presume is the recoil spring, and the bolt carrier group. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_103348_163_zpsihofdpxb.jpg Various small parts. Nope, not as pretty as the stock photo of a brand new CETME-L in the OP, but in pretty good shape for a gun that's likely seen decades of use. I wanted a second one at some point anyway, now I really want another so I can keep one "stock", and put a suppressor mount on the other one. Looks a little dirty, but that looks like it is in really good shape. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 4:37:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks a little dirty, but that looks like it is in really good shape. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Potatopics. Bear in mind, the flash is really exaggerating everything. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_102936_559_zpswedh1hxt.jpg http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_102957_960_zpshlr94irb.jpg So, buttstock and pistol grip/trigger group. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_103050_424_zpsu2ghd569.jpg What I got of the receiver, along with the cocking tube with the handle and other cocking hardware inside of it. Rear sight stuff is already removed and in the smaller parts bag. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_103139_112_zpspa9txnhh.jpg Front sight assembly, fore end and handguard, what I presume is the recoil spring, and the bolt carrier group. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/stuffs/IMG_20150109_103348_163_zpsihofdpxb.jpg Various small parts. Nope, not as pretty as the stock photo of a brand new CETME-L in the OP, but in pretty good shape for a gun that's likely seen decades of use. I wanted a second one at some point anyway, now I really want another so I can keep one "stock", and put a suppressor mount on the other one. Looks a little dirty, but that looks like it is in really good shape. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 6:54:38 PM EDT
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Mine came in today, only the buttstocks show abuse.
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Posted: 1/9/2015 7:03:32 PM EDT
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That'll do pig, that'll do...
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Posted: 1/9/2015 7:09:43 PM EDT
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I would be interested in one of those. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I would be interested in one of those. Me too |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 7:55:52 PM EDT
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I would be interested in one of those. Me too 320 mm (12.6 in) (Model LC) Barrel means it would be an SBR. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 10:30:54 PM EDT
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320 mm (12.6 in) (Model LC) Barrel means it would be an SBR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would be interested in one of those. Me too 320 mm (12.6 in) (Model LC) Barrel means it would be an SBR. The L is going to have to be lengthened to 16" or permanently affix the FH. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 10:31:36 PM EDT
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Double
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Posted: 1/11/2015 10:24:00 AM EDT
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From the sound of things, it looks like an HK93 barrel could be modified to work. So then all we really have to wait for is a receiver, and maybe a compliance part depending, and we'll be in business. But a workable barrel is a major step forward. I miss the days when they didn't destroy barrels coming in with kits. One of the stupidest ATF rulings out there. |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 12:52:10 PM EDT
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Could not resist. Order placed for a kit and some mags. I wish the receiver prints were available and someone could 3D print plastic dummy receivers until a semi design could be done.
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Posted: 1/12/2015 10:31:41 PM EDT
[#26]
Kit arrived today. This is going to be vaporware or a money pit. Either way, I'm in.
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:14:56 PM EDT
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Kits pictured so far look MUCH better than the one I got last night. Mine has a name carved into the stock and the finish is missing on a lot of the metal, down to the steel.
Will be interested to see how this goes when barrels and receivers are available. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:26:01 PM EDT
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Of the parts you receive, how many are actually going to be able to be reused?
The rear sight looks like it's welded onto what's left of the receiver. The charging handle channel looks like it was part of the original receiver, along with what's left of the magwell. The trigger pack can't be reused since it's select fire and I'd assume the housing will probably require replacement or welding to make the ATF happy. Wes |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:28:37 PM EDT
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Of the parts you receive, how many are actually going to be able to be reused? The rear sight looks like it's welded onto what's left of the receiver. The charging handle channel looks like it was part of the original receiver, along with what's left of the magwell. The trigger pack can't be reused since it's select fire and I'd assume the housing will probably require replacement or welding to make the ATF happy. Wes Indeed. More and more this project is looking less and less feasible. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 1:59:24 PM EDT
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My kit arrived today, overall the wear is not bad, most of the finish remains. Although, I did not receive a magazine in the kit. I may get one of the "very good condtion" kits they list now.
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Posted: 1/13/2015 4:09:08 PM EDT
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My kit arrived today, overall the wear is not bad, most of the finish remains. Although, I did not receive a magazine in the kit. I may get one of the "very good condtion" kits they list now. Mags were not included in the kits. You had to order separately. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 5:02:41 PM EDT
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Indeed. More and more this project is looking less and less feasible. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of the parts you receive, how many are actually going to be able to be reused? The rear sight looks like it's welded onto what's left of the receiver. The charging handle channel looks like it was part of the original receiver, along with what's left of the magwell. The trigger pack can't be reused since it's select fire and I'd assume the housing will probably require replacement or welding to make the ATF happy. Wes Indeed. More and more this project is looking less and less feasible. This kit is going to have to be sent off and done professionally. I got my kit in just a few minutes ago and everything looks good, but I'd put it I the lower end of the "good" spectrum. Something melted a small section of my stock. I won't touch this kit until I send it off to be completed. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 6:58:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: The kit/gun in the OP, I'd buy a couple of, just because they look neat. Quoted: Quoted: I'll be on this like a bum on a bologna samitch! I hope NDS makes the flat...  And just for the shit of it, I hope APEX goes after these. If they can get the ameli, I'd do my damnedest to buy several. If Ameli's were tendered/available thru an importer APEX would be doing its best to secure them all for our customers! However, the Ameli is still a current issue front line Squad level MG, and so they won't be surplus yet. The CETME L is only available because Spain is buying the HK G36. Richard Look at the soldier second from the left.   |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 6:59:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This kit is going to have to be sent off and done professionally. I got my kit in just a few minutes ago and everything looks good, but I'd put it I the lower end of the "good" spectrum. Something melted a small section of my stock. I won't touch this kit until I send it off to be completed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Of the parts you receive, how many are actually going to be able to be reused? The rear sight looks like it's welded onto what's left of the receiver. The charging handle channel looks like it was part of the original receiver, along with what's left of the magwell. The trigger pack can't be reused since it's select fire and I'd assume the housing will probably require replacement or welding to make the ATF happy. Wes Indeed. More and more this project is looking less and less feasible. This kit is going to have to be sent off and done professionally. I got my kit in just a few minutes ago and everything looks good, but I'd put it I the lower end of the "good" spectrum. Something melted a small section of my stock. I won't touch this kit until I send it off to be completed. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 7:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll be on this like a bum on a bologna samitch! I hope NDS makes the flat... And just for the shit of it, I hope APEX goes after these. If they can get the ameli, I'd do my damnedest to buy several. If Ameli's were tendered/available thru an importer APEX would be doing its best to secure them all for our customers! However, the Ameli is still a current issue front line Squad level MG, and so they won't be surplus yet. The CETME L is only available because Spain is buying the HK G36. Richard Look at the soldier second from the left. http://cdn.trend.az/pictures/2014/09/19/spanish_soldiers_army_190914.jpg |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 8:23:53 PM EDT
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The kit/gun in the OP, I'd buy a couple of, just because they look neat. If they can get the ameli, I'd do my damnedest to buy several. If Ameli's were tendered/available thru an importer APEX would be doing its best to secure them all for our customers! However, the Ameli is still a current issue front line Squad level MG, and so they won't be surplus yet. The CETME L is only available because Spain is buying the HK G36. Richard I hope you guys stay on top of the Ameli angle. I don't foresee it surviving service much longer... Look at the soldier second from the left.
http://cdn.trend.az/pictures/2014/09/19/spanish_soldiers_army_190914.jpg I have so much want for the Ameli. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll be on this like a bum on a bologna samitch! I hope NDS makes the flat...
The kit/gun in the OP, I'd buy a couple of, just because they look neat. If they can get the ameli, I'd do my damnedest to buy several. If Ameli's were tendered/available thru an importer APEX would be doing its best to secure them all for our customers! However, the Ameli is still a current issue front line Squad level MG, and so they won't be surplus yet. The CETME L is only available because Spain is buying the HK G36. Richard I hope you guys stay on top of the Ameli angle. I don't foresee it surviving service much longer... Look at the soldier second from the left.
http://cdn.trend.az/pictures/2014/09/19/spanish_soldiers_army_190914.jpg I have so much want for the Ameli. Me too. I'd love one. |
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Posted: 1/13/2015 8:32:07 PM EDT
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Quick pic at work. A client came in while I was finger fucking the parts.
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Posted: 1/14/2015 1:18:19 PM EDT
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Of the parts you receive, how many are actually going to be able to be reused? The rear sight looks like it's welded onto what's left of the receiver. The charging handle channel looks like it was part of the original receiver, along with what's left of the magwell. The trigger pack can't be reused since it's select fire and I'd assume the housing will probably require replacement or welding to make the ATF happy. Wes Sight can be cut off, it's just tig welded along the sides. When someone makes a reciever flat it will either be complete or a reweld around the trunnion. Using the front half of the original. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 6:10:42 PM EDT
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Got my kit yesterday. Looks very good with minor wear. Also got some of the 30rd and 12rd mags. Of the three 12rd mags, two are packed in cosmoline and look new and one is used but in good shape.
Now for someone to come up with a build plan. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 8:34:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now for someone to come up with a build plan. http://gunlab.net/sunday-answer-1-18-15/ |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 8:50:59 PM EDT
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I'm thinking it might be a better idea to shape the magwell so it would have AR15 dimensions at the front vs the long SA80/416 style magwell. That is is people want to actually use and shoot them vs having a collector reproduction.
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Posted: 1/18/2015 9:06:51 PM EDT
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I'm thinking it might be a better idea to shape the magwell so it would have AR15 dimensions at the front vs the long SA80/416 style magwell. That is is people want to actually use and shoot them vs having a collector reproduction. From what I understand, these work just fine, in fact better with STANAG M16 mags. Or are you saying you want to be able to use PMAGs with yours? |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 9:08:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2015 10:04:13 PM EDT
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From what I understand, these work just fine, in fact better with STANAG M16 mags. Or are you saying you want to be able to use PMAGs with yours? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm thinking it might be a better idea to shape the magwell so it would have AR15 dimensions at the front vs the long SA80/416 style magwell. That is is people want to actually use and shoot them vs having a collector reproduction. From what I understand, these work just fine, in fact better with STANAG M16 mags. Or are you saying you want to be able to use PMAGs with yours? I'm saying that a modern firearm intended to be used with AR15/M16 magazines should probably accept all of the commonly encountered magazines that people are likely to either already own or purchase, and that would include Gen 1 and 2 PMags. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 10:24:29 PM EDT
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Legal in Maryland. I want one just for the hell of it. Hell, just cuz we can actually have it......and give Frosh a stroke. |
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Posted: 1/18/2015 10:32:52 PM EDT
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I'm saying that a modern firearm intended to be used with AR15/M16 magazines should probably accept all of the commonly encountered magazines that people are likely to either already own or purchase, and that would include Gen 1 and 2 PMags. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm thinking it might be a better idea to shape the magwell so it would have AR15 dimensions at the front vs the long SA80/416 style magwell. That is is people want to actually use and shoot them vs having a collector reproduction. From what I understand, these work just fine, in fact better with STANAG M16 mags. Or are you saying you want to be able to use PMAGs with yours? I'm saying that a modern firearm intended to be used with AR15/M16 magazines should probably accept all of the commonly encountered magazines that people are likely to either already own or purchase, and that would include Gen 1 and 2 PMags. It's not a modern firearm... |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 12:38:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now for someone to come up with a build plan. http://gunlab.net/sunday-answer-1-18-15/ Made hotness
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Posted: 1/19/2015 1:28:46 PM EDT
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This is a photoshop rendering of what a CETME L receiver flat might look like some day.
The image is not to scale because I don't have measurements to work from. My photoshopping is self taught, this is the best I came up with. This was compiled from numerous images and transformed into what you see. 
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Posted: 1/19/2015 1:36:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a photoshop rendering of what a CETME L receiver flat might look like some day. The image is not to scale because I don't have measurements to work from. My photoshopping is self taught, this is the best I came up with. This was compiled from numerous images and transformed into what you see. http://i62.tinypic.com/5d770l.jpg  |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 1:07:59 AM EDT
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This is a photoshop rendering of what a CETME L receiver flat might look like some day. The image is not to scale because I don't have measurements to work from. My photoshopping is self taught, this is the best I came up with. This was compiled from numerous images and transformed into what you see.
that doesn't look right, this was posted on another forum, the top and center sections are much smaller. 
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