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Posted: 4/27/2016 11:27:38 PM EDT
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/27/house-committee-votes-to-require-women-to-register-for-draft.html?intcmp=hplnws
WASHINGTON The House Armed Services Committee approved a measure Wednesday requiring women to register for the military draft, a move that comes just a few months after the Defense Department lifted all gender-based restrictions on front-line combat units. In a twist that presages how contentious further debate may be, the author of the amendment voted against his own measure. It passed the committee by a vote of 32-30. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., a former Marine who served three combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, doesn't support drafting women into combat and he's opposed to opening infantry and special operations positions to women. He said he offered the measure to trigger a discussion about how the Pentagon's decision in December to rescind gender restrictions on military service failed to consider whether the exclusion on drafting women also should be lifted. That's a call for Congress to make, Hunter said, not the executive branch. "I think we should make this decision," he said. "It's the families that we represent who are affected by this." At times, Hunter evoked graphic images of combat in an apparent attempt to convince committee members that drafting women would lead to them being sent directly into harm's way. "A draft is there to put bodies on the front lines to take the hill," Hunter said. "The draft is there to get more people to rip the enemies' throats out and kill them." But if Hunter was trying to sway people against his amendment, his plan didn't work. Rep. Jackie Speier, D-Calif., said she supported Hunter's measure. "I actually think if we want equality in this country, if we want women to be treated precisely like men are treated and that they should not be discriminated against, we should be willing to support a universal conscription," she said. Rep. Martha McSally, R-Ariz., a retired Air Force fighter pilot, said draftees aren't exclusively sent to the front lines. There are plenty of other useful, noncombat positions for them to fill, she said. Hunter's amendment will be included in the defense policy bill that authorizes the defense budget for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1. The full House will take up the bill soon. |
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I hope SJW females can't get student loans unless they register.
You know, to be fair and shit. |
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Good.
Hopefully it has the same impact as males when it comes to federal employment and access to financial aid as well. Don't register and see how fucked you end up. I know a couple of guys who have been fucked by their failure to register in a timely manner. |
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Until they're called up. Men can't get pregnant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes If a real wartime draft is ever activated, Suddenly There will be many men that Identify as Women |
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It's a pathetic thought that our country would draft women to fight its wars.
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Welcome to the Infantry Ladies...
No I'm not talking to you guys, I'm talking to the women in the back rank |
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I'm OK with this. Conscripted service does not equal combat.plenty of jobs women can do if we are at war.
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Until they're called up. Men can't get pregnant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes This right here^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You might draft them, but you won't keep them if they don't want to stay. Because no matter what politicians say, women are not men, and verse visa. |
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Wait until they give birth then send them off. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Equal rights, yo. Until they're called up. Men can't get pregnant. Wait until they give birth then send them off. After the 12 weeks of paid vacation and the 1 year bonding time, at which point they get pregnant again...rather, rinse, repeat. |
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What has taken so long.
Obama should have used his magic executive powers. |
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I'll shoot of one of my toes and offer a free impreggers service. What could go wrong? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Equal rights, yo. Until they're called up. Men can't get pregnant. I'll shoot of one of my toes and offer a free impreggers service. What could go wrong? You can go to jail for intentionally injuring yourself to evade the draft. Not for getting knocked up. |
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Finally!!! Let's test the commies' convictions. View Quote You mean like all of the gays demanding the end of DADT? Now, we are fighting an enemy that recreationally defenstrates gay people, and there doesn't seem to be a rush of LGBTers wanting to get a punch in on IS. Fighting and dying is for knuckle dragging white people without education in their world. You know, expendible types. |
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It's a pathetic thought that our country would draft women to fight its wars. View Quote Why? Having a vagina shouldn't excuse you from serving your country in a time of need. You can't say you want equality and a place at the round table and not be willing to get your hands dirty. That's not how it works. |
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Not a fan of this, but then again I'm not for putting women into harm's way or into situations where it can cause problems or reduce effectiveness, including putting them in all but a handful of arms in the ground services (pretty much just some service and support stuff is okay), and on nearly any seagoing vessel or combatant vessel, shore-based, or sea-based command in the sea services. I'm certainly not for forcing our mothers, sisters, and daughters to go into harm's way. It's morally repugnant to me.
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After the 12 weeks of paid vacation and the 1 year bonding time, at which point they get pregnant again...rather, rinse, repeat. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Equal rights, yo. Until they're called up. Men can't get pregnant. Wait until they give birth then send them off. After the 12 weeks of paid vacation and the 1 year bonding time, at which point they get pregnant again...rather, rinse, repeat. And some injury for a nice VA rating. |
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the law of unintended consequences welcome to the party ladies
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Not a fan of this, but then again I'm not for putting women into harm's way or into situations where it can cause problems or reduce effectiveness, including putting them in all but a handful of arms in the ground services (pretty much just some service and support stuff is okay), and on nearly any seagoing vessel or combatant vessel, shore-based, or sea-based command in the sea services. I'm certainly not for forcing our mothers, sisters, and daughters to go into harm's way. It's morally repugnant to me. View Quote Somebody has to go. |
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Quoted: Good.Hopefully it has the same impact as males when it comes to federal employment and access to financial aid as well. Don't register and see how fucked you end up. I know a couple of guys who have been fucked by their failure to register in a timely manner. View Quote |
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Not a fan of this, but then again I'm not for putting women into harm's way or into situations where it can cause problems or reduce effectiveness, including putting them in all but a handful of arms in the ground services (pretty much just some service and support stuff is okay), and on nearly any seagoing vessel or combatant vessel, shore-based, or sea-based command in the sea services. I'm certainly not for forcing our mothers, sisters, and daughters to go into harm's way. It's morally repugnant to me. Somebody has to go. If conditions get to the point where you no longer have men you can send into the fight, you're pretty fucked. If things get that extreme, an exception could be made if necessary for survival. |
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Won't matter how the house votes. Harry Reid would kill the bill in the Senate.
They do not want to upset women during an election cycle, the speak about equality but it is all BS. |
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You mean like all of the gays demanding the end of DADT? Now, we are fighting an enemy that recreationally defenstrates gay people, and there doesn't seem to be a rush of LGBTers wanting to get a punch in on IS. Fighting and dying is for knuckle dragging white people without education in their world. You know, expendible types. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Finally!!! Let's test the commies' convictions. You mean like all of the gays demanding the end of DADT? Now, we are fighting an enemy that recreationally defenstrates gay people, and there doesn't seem to be a rush of LGBTers wanting to get a punch in on IS. Fighting and dying is for knuckle dragging white people without education in their world. You know, expendible types. They have no problem ridiculing "lowbrow red necks" who join the military voluntarily. They are insulting hypocrites. To quote Douglas Adams, they'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes. |
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If conditions get to the point where you no longer have men you can send into the fight, you're pretty fucked. If things get that extreme, an exception could be made if necessary for survival. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not a fan of this, but then again I'm not for putting women into harm's way or into situations where it can cause problems or reduce effectiveness, including putting them in all but a handful of arms in the ground services (pretty much just some service and support stuff is okay), and on nearly any seagoing vessel or combatant vessel, shore-based, or sea-based command in the sea services. I'm certainly not for forcing our mothers, sisters, and daughters to go into harm's way. It's morally repugnant to me. Somebody has to go. If conditions get to the point where you no longer have men you can send into the fight, you're pretty fucked. If things get that extreme, an exception could be made if necessary for survival. Lots of ifs and assumptions in your post. When it's necessary, all sorts of people will have all sorts of excuses to why they can't drag themselves out of bed on Saturday to swing by a Reserve Center. |
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Good...especially for all the minority woman that complain about white privilege. Heres their chance.
but..I am sure its racist somehow. |
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They have no problem ridiculing "lowbrow red necks" who join the military voluntarily. They are insulting hypocrites. To quote Douglas Adams, they'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Finally!!! Let's test the commies' convictions. You mean like all of the gays demanding the end of DADT? Now, we are fighting an enemy that recreationally defenstrates gay people, and there doesn't seem to be a rush of LGBTers wanting to get a punch in on IS. Fighting and dying is for knuckle dragging white people without education in their world. You know, expendible types. They have no problem ridiculing "lowbrow red necks" who join the military voluntarily. They are insulting hypocrites. To quote Douglas Adams, they'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes. They are awful human beings, all right. |
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The draft needs to be abolished if you have to be forced to serve your nation when it needs you most then your nation is not worth saving.
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The draft needs to be abolished if you have to be forced to serve your nation when it needs you most then your nation is not worth saving. View Quote The good enough should never be the enemy of the perfect. The functional difference between a bureaucratic mercenary army and a drafted one in a ethical construct is pretty narrow. |
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Yeah, winning WWII was a waste of time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The draft needs to be abolished if you have to be forced to serve your nation when it needs you most then your nation is not worth saving. Yeah, winning WWII was a waste of time. Or, WWI, Korea, the Civil War, the War of 1812.... |
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I'm OK with this. Conscripted service does not equal combat.plenty of jobs women can do if we are at war. View Quote Nope. You want the right for infantry "jobs" you got it. As previously stated, it's a sad and embarrassing state for our nation. Sometimes the best way to educate a naive and spoiled child is to give them exactly what they are asking for. So I'm kinda torn on this one. |
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Yeah, winning WWII was a waste of time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The draft needs to be abolished if you have to be forced to serve your nation when it needs you most then your nation is not worth saving. Yeah, winning WWII was a waste of time. All that shows is most people are cowards and have to be forced to take action. It's fucking disgusting. The world has always been drug kicking and screaming to greatness by their betters. There we were the time when our way of life was most at risk and people had to be forced to fight. Pathetic. |
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Nope. You want the right for infantry "jobs" you got it. As previously stated, it's a sad and embarrassing state for our nation. Sometimes the best way to educate a naive and spoiled child is to give them exactly what they are asking for. So I'm kinda torn on this one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm OK with this. Conscripted service does not equal combat.plenty of jobs women can do if we are at war. Nope. You want the right for infantry "jobs" you got it. As previously stated, it's a sad and embarrassing state for our nation. Sometimes the best way to educate a naive and spoiled child is to give them exactly what they are asking for. So I'm kinda torn on this one. The bad news is that it's going to take another Kasserine Pass or TF Smith to do it. Even then, I think the SJWs are so convinced of their existential righteousness they won't care. |
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The bad news is that it's going to take another Kasserine Pass or TF Smith to do it. Even then, I think the SJWs are so convinced of their existential righteousness they won't care. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm OK with this. Conscripted service does not equal combat.plenty of jobs women can do if we are at war. Nope. You want the right for infantry "jobs" you got it. As previously stated, it's a sad and embarrassing state for our nation. Sometimes the best way to educate a naive and spoiled child is to give them exactly what they are asking for. So I'm kinda torn on this one. The bad news is that it's going to take another Kasserine Pass or TF Smith to do it. Even then, I think the SJWs are so convinced of their existential righteousness they won't care. Nah they'll blame the real warriors for not giving them enough support and wanting it to fail. |
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All that shows is most people are cowards and have to be forced to take action. It's fucking disgusting. The world has always been drug kicking and screaming to greatness by their betters. There we were the time when our way of life was most at risk and people had to be forced to fight. Pathetic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The draft needs to be abolished if you have to be forced to serve your nation when it needs you most then your nation is not worth saving. Yeah, winning WWII was a waste of time. All that shows is most people are cowards and have to be forced to take action. It's fucking disgusting. The world has always been drug kicking and screaming to greatness by their betters. There we were the time when our way of life was most at risk and people had to be forced to fight. Pathetic. Bro, only 12% of Spanish aged 18-40 would join the Spanish Army if the country was under direct threat of invasion. Do you think that number is appreciably different anywhere in the Western world? |
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Nah they'll blame the real warriors for not giving them enough support and wanting it to fail. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm OK with this. Conscripted service does not equal combat.plenty of jobs women can do if we are at war. Nope. You want the right for infantry "jobs" you got it. As previously stated, it's a sad and embarrassing state for our nation. Sometimes the best way to educate a naive and spoiled child is to give them exactly what they are asking for. So I'm kinda torn on this one. The bad news is that it's going to take another Kasserine Pass or TF Smith to do it. Even then, I think the SJWs are so convinced of their existential righteousness they won't care. Nah they'll blame the real warriors for not giving them enough support and wanting it to fail. Same same. |
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