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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:25:31 PM EDT
[#1]
bang all their women.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:26:44 PM EDT
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He's not.
Can't kill an idea. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:27:31 PM EDT
[#3]
That's one of those pie in the sky "begins with words and ends with words" promises that politicians use to make us commoners feel like they are listening to us.
Won't ever happen. He can't kill a billion people. Nor can he convince a billion people to change their hearts. That's just not something that anyone in any government at any level has the power to do. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:28:06 PM EDT
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He will do this by hunting them down and killing them. Our military is quite good at this, especially decapitation strikes. Additionally, putting the squeeze on their finances. Don't forget that the radical Muslims have been a thorn in the side of the Russians. It could very well be open season for the next few years.
ETA: there is not a billion radical Muslims. Kill the leaders and the rest are a disorganized mob. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:29:00 PM EDT
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President Trump made a bold promise yesterday during his inaugural speech to "wipe radical Islamic terrorists of the face of the earth." While I like the statement, accomplishing this will much be easier said than done and will take many years to succeed. What exactly must be done to stop Jihadists and future generations of them? Seems like bombing the shit out of them where they train and have strongholds in combination of a covert ground war would be the start. 
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:29:45 PM EDT
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He will turn Mad Dog loose with the words "sick em".
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:30:14 PM EDT
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It's bullshit.
I do find it likely that we will one day have a global convert or die type scenario as long as they (or we) exist. People wonder why the Jews were told to kill every man woman and child. Well now we know. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:31:56 PM EDT
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We might be able to try aggressive military action with realistic ROE and sanctions for countries on the fence who might harbor other otherwise aid radical islamic extremists.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:32:29 PM EDT
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One dead radical jihadi at a time.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:33:24 PM EDT
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It won't involve being nice or look much like what the world has been doing so far.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:33:44 PM EDT
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He's not. Can't kill an idea. It's not an idea. It's a license to be a criminal toward all not in your special little group. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:33:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:34:38 PM EDT
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If I was doing this I would engage every Muslim leader in the world with some version of you're either with or against us.
I would define an ally as anyone who would work to combat extremists and I would work to establish diplomatic, trade and financial support for any government that would truly attempt to combat extremism. On the flip side I would severely punish any country who supported or funded terrorism, even turning an official blind eye to it, sanctions, asset freeze, coalition sanctions. Last, establish a global coalition of national powers who are sick of terrorism and try to establish a joint Intel and seek and destroy infrastructure so you could rapidly identify where terrorists are training, organizing and acting out and kill them where possible. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:35:13 PM EDT
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He's not. Can't kill an idea. Well we sure can kill a bunch of them trying. 
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:36:31 PM EDT
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He can degrade the organized part of it to a point they are not a major threat.
CIA and other spooks can start killing leaders they already know of and have in reach. Including Imams. "wow, it is weird how many radical imams have died of heart attacks". Stop letting the bad guys go free. They are not soldiers, they are murderers. For non US citizens they should get a military trial and military execution within a short period of time. Remove the idiotic rules of engagement. If they shoot from a house, blow the house up, fuck the family. Stop worrying about public image. Known government actors, ex. Iran rev guard, send them to allah. Stop aid or relationships with any gov actor that tacitly supports them, like Saudi Arabia. Hell, blockade/embargo/boycott countries that don't actively help kill bad guys. Let/help dictators kill them in their own country. Those and more on top of what our military and spies should already be doing. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:37:50 PM EDT
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It's bullshit. I do find it likely that we will one day have a global convert or die type scenario as long as they (or we) exist. People wonder why the Jews were told to kill every man woman and child. Well now we know. Personally I believe Islam will play a major role in the next world war, and it will be the greatest conflict ever known by the world. Basically the whole civilized world vs Islam and Islamic nations. I just don't see any other way at the current rate. Their numbers are always increasing, and their religion has no room for compromise or compatibility with modern 1st world nations. Just look at what's occurring in Europe right now. How long until their citizens say ENOUGH and put a stop to the cultural genocide being forced upon them? |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:38:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Won't hurt to try.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:38:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:40:50 PM EDT
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We can drill our own oil and turn the house of saud into our bitch, for starters. Then get India to smack down Pakistan, while we overthrow Iran. Let Israel pitch in wherever they want.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:41:44 PM EDT
[#20]
... change Obama's ROE
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:44:31 PM EDT
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He's not. Can't kill an idea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
He's not. Can't kill an idea. Pretty much. Persecuting fundamentalists just makes them more fundamentalist, it fits their story/narrative. If you breathe in their general direction (or say they don't get special-status over others), they feel they're being persecuted. Fundamentalism can be transformed though. People just have to be intellectually honest. Religious beliefs, compared to other beliefs have a special-status though. Like it or not, Christianity was quite fundamentalist during the Middle Ages. Props to the Protestants for breaking up Christian Shariah/spreading the idea that one can interpret the Bible as they see it instead of what the Imam says. Things still didn't kick off to modernity until the Enlightenment (which owes some props to said Protestant Reformation) though. The resurgence of Islamic devotion and the attraction to things Islamic can be traced to several events. By the end of World War I, most Muslim states were seen to be dominated by the Christian-leaning Western states. It is argued that either the claims of Islam were false and the Christian or post-Christian West had finally come up with another system that was superior, or Islam had failed through not being true to itself. Thus, a redoubling of faith and devotion by Muslims was called for to reverse this tide. The connection between the lack of an Islamic spirit and the lack of victory was underscored by the disastrous defeat of Arab nationalist-led armies fighting under the slogan "Land, Sea and Air" in the 1967 Six Day War, compared to the (perceived) near-victory of the Yom Kippur War six years later. In that war the military's slogan was "God is Great". Along with the Yom Kippur War came the Arab oil embargo where the (Muslim) Persian Gulf oil-producing states' dramatic decision to cut back on production and quadruple the price of oil, made the terms oil, Arabs and Islam synonymous – with power – in the world, and especially in the Muslim world's public imagination. Many Muslims believe as Saudi Prince Saud al Faisal did that the hundreds of billions of dollars in wealth obtained from the Persian Gulf's huge oil deposits were nothing less than a gift from God to the Islamic faithful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism#Resurgence_of_Islam The fundamentalist Christians got as far as the 1920's (re: evolution, etc.) before creating their own separate reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist%E2%80%93Modernist_Controversy Really the whole thing is the Middle-Ages fighting the Enlightenment/Modernity. Religion fights the future. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:46:00 PM EDT
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He will cover the earth with pig blood
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:46:42 PM EDT
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He's not. Can't kill an idea. Correct...but he can kill hundreds of thousands of them. That and stop letting muslims into the USA and deport all non-citizen muslims and that is perhaps all he can do. Muslim ideology is incompatible with Western cultures/nations and you can't change muslim ideology. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:46:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:47:41 PM EDT
[#25]
1. Stop giving money to countries terrorists come from.
2. Stop giving money to countries that trade with countries that terrorists come from. 3. Stop trading with the above countries. 4. Eliminate Saudi Arabia. Whole stock. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:49:32 PM EDT
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Correct...but he can kill hundreds of thousands of them. That and stop letting muslims into the USA and deport all non-citizen muslims and that is perhaps all he can do. Muslim ideology is incompatible with Western cultures/nations and you can't change muslim ideology. Killing fundamentalists makes them more fundamentalist. We live in a nuclear age. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:51:58 PM EDT
[#27]
find some way to poison the motherfuckers
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:51:59 PM EDT
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Killing fundamentalists makes them more fundamentalist. We live in a nuclear age. I can think of certain solutions to the problem. None are CoC compliant though. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:52:09 PM EDT
[#29]
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Personally I believe Islam will play a major role in the next world war, and it will be the greatest conflict ever known by the world. Basically the whole civilized world vs Islam and Islamic nations. I just don't see any other way at the current rate. Their numbers are always increasing, and their religion has no room for compromise or compatibility with modern 1st world nations. Just look at what's occurring in Europe right now. How long until their citizens say ENOUGH and put a stop to the cultural genocide being forced upon them? IMO the problem with that scenario is they already know they can't win. I believe they will keep infiltrating every nation in the world, until the appointed time. I honestly would like to believe there are millions of good people in that religion, but when they are taught to lie and be deceitful since birth, they will likely be a good neighbor right up till the moment of your forced conversion. These people have a culture where ass raping children is ok. Fuck them. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:52:57 PM EDT
[#30]
You get rid of it by starving it to death.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:54:09 PM EDT
[#31]
Unrestricted military, economic, and cyber warfare.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:54:20 PM EDT
[#32]
I have to say it. We had to nuke the Japanese TWICE before they got the message loud and clear.
I kinda see Muslim terrorists the same way. They won't get the message until they are annihilated in the most extreme matter. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:55:11 PM EDT
[#33]
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It's bullshit. I do find it likely that we will one day have a global convert or die type scenario as long as they (or we) exist. People wonder why the Jews were told to kill every man woman and child. Well now we know. Huh? |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:57:11 PM EDT
[#34]
First off, your thread title contains a giant strawman, so your argument is weak. He did not say he would destroy Islamic Extremism. That's exactly the kind of subtle misstatement that the left uses all the time.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:57:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:57:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Pretty much. Persecuting fundamentalists just makes them more fundamentalist, it fits their story/narrative. If you breathe in their general direction (or say they don't get special-status over others), they feel they're being persecuted. Fundamentalism can be transformed though. People just have to be intellectually honest. Religious beliefs, compared to other beliefs have a special-status though. Like it or not, Christianity was quite fundamentalist during the Middle Ages. Props to the Protestants for breaking up Christian Shariah/spreading the idea that one can interpret the Bible as they see it instead of what the Imam says. Things still didn't kick off to modernity until the Enlightenment (which owes some props to said Protestant Reformation) though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism#Resurgence_of_Islam The fundamentalist Christians got as far as the 1920's (re: evolution, etc.) before creating their own separate reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist%E2%80%93Modernist_Controversy Really the whole thing is the Middle-Ages fighting the Enlightenment/Modernity. Religion fights the future. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's not. Can't kill an idea. Pretty much. Persecuting fundamentalists just makes them more fundamentalist, it fits their story/narrative. If you breathe in their general direction (or say they don't get special-status over others), they feel they're being persecuted. Fundamentalism can be transformed though. People just have to be intellectually honest. Religious beliefs, compared to other beliefs have a special-status though. Like it or not, Christianity was quite fundamentalist during the Middle Ages. Props to the Protestants for breaking up Christian Shariah/spreading the idea that one can interpret the Bible as they see it instead of what the Imam says. Things still didn't kick off to modernity until the Enlightenment (which owes some props to said Protestant Reformation) though. The resurgence of Islamic devotion and the attraction to things Islamic can be traced to several events. By the end of World War I, most Muslim states were seen to be dominated by the Christian-leaning Western states. It is argued that either the claims of Islam were false and the Christian or post-Christian West had finally come up with another system that was superior, or Islam had failed through not being true to itself. Thus, a redoubling of faith and devotion by Muslims was called for to reverse this tide. The connection between the lack of an Islamic spirit and the lack of victory was underscored by the disastrous defeat of Arab nationalist-led armies fighting under the slogan "Land, Sea and Air" in the 1967 Six Day War, compared to the (perceived) near-victory of the Yom Kippur War six years later. In that war the military's slogan was "God is Great". Along with the Yom Kippur War came the Arab oil embargo where the (Muslim) Persian Gulf oil-producing states' dramatic decision to cut back on production and quadruple the price of oil, made the terms oil, Arabs and Islam synonymous – with power – in the world, and especially in the Muslim world's public imagination. Many Muslims believe as Saudi Prince Saud al Faisal did that the hundreds of billions of dollars in wealth obtained from the Persian Gulf's huge oil deposits were nothing less than a gift from God to the Islamic faithful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism#Resurgence_of_Islam The fundamentalist Christians got as far as the 1920's (re: evolution, etc.) before creating their own separate reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist%E2%80%93Modernist_Controversy Really the whole thing is the Middle-Ages fighting the Enlightenment/Modernity. Religion fights the future. It's not persecution. It's retribution for violating today's recognized rights of all to live, pray and exist how they see fit ( while not denying or violating others the same right). They aren't playing by those rules. They worship a god where the world's most perfect Muslim like to diddle little girls; plunder, kill and enslave all those who opposed him, and force a demagogic belief system onto others to conform or submit. That was made into a religion. If you believe those things and practice them violating others' rights and taking their lives because your religion says you can, then you should expect retribution for violating the rights of others. Send them to their paradise. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:58:43 PM EDT
[#37]
Simply have an open season on the Muslum HATE-Mongers.....
 A modern day Crusade against the evils of satan.....
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Posted: 1/21/2017 12:59:28 PM EDT
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IMO the problem with that scenario is they already know they can't win. I believe they will keep infiltrating every nation in the world, until the appointed time. I honestly would like to believe there are millions of good people in that religion, but when they are taught to lie and be deceitful since birth, they will likely be a good neighbor right up till the moment of your forced conversion. These people have a culture where ass raping children is ok. Fuck them. Well, the first step is to STOP that infiltration immediately. Hopefully saner minds take control in Europe soon. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:00:20 PM EDT
[#39]
1) Pull out of stupid wars in the Middle East
2) Borders to keep them out of US and Europe 3) Restrict the benefits that attract them 4) Limit visas to sane people Result: 1) no need for conflict with us since we don't interact 2) they can kill each other |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:01:25 PM EDT
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Take their money away. Blow up their oil fields.
Do a secret deal with Putin. He gets something and we both get something. Collateral damage will happen ...accept it. Eliminate the Mosque where terrorist originated from and do it doing prayer time. Even if in US. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:01:32 PM EDT
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People wonder why the Jews were told to kill every man woman and child. Well now we know. That's an excellent point. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:01:48 PM EDT
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Pretty much. Persecuting fundamentalists just makes them more fundamentalist, it fits their story/narrative. If you breathe in their general direction (or say they don't get special-status over others), they feel they're being persecuted. Fundamentalism can be transformed though. People just have to be intellectually honest. Religious beliefs, compared to other beliefs have a special-status though. Like it or not, Christianity was quite fundamentalist during the Middle Ages. Props to the Protestants for breaking up Christian Shariah/spreading the idea that one can interpret the Bible as they see it instead of what the Imam says. Things still didn't kick off to modernity until the Enlightenment (which owes some props to said Protestant Reformation) though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism#Resurgence_of_Islam The fundamentalist Christians got as far as the 1920's (re: evolution, etc.) before creating their own separate reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist%E2%80%93Modernist_Controversy Really the whole thing is the Middle-Ages fighting the Enlightenment/Modernity. Religion fights the future. They need their own Protestants types to become, grow, and change them. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:02:17 PM EDT
[#43]
One of the many things he says that we aren't supposed to take literally, I suppose.
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:02:36 PM EDT
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Killing fundamentalists makes them more fundamentalist. We live in a nuclear age. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Correct...but he can kill hundreds of thousands of them. That and stop letting muslims into the USA and deport all non-citizen muslims and that is perhaps all he can do. Muslim ideology is incompatible with Western cultures/nations and you can't change muslim ideology. Killing fundamentalists makes them more fundamentalist. We live in a nuclear age. It's the belief system. It's as wrong as cannibalism, the thuggee cult or Aztec ritual sacrifice. It's not compatible with Western Culture. this has been proved out for 1400 years. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:02:55 PM EDT
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Put pressure on Saudi Arabia and untie Israel's hands would be a great start.
Remember OP, Trump is the smartest man in the room. I'm sure he has a plan. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:03:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:04:03 PM EDT
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He can degrade the organized part of it to a point they are not a major threat. CIA and other spooks can start killing leaders they already know of and have in reach. Including Imams. "wow, it is weird how many radical imams have died of heart attacks". Stop letting the bad guys go free. They are not soldiers, they are murderers. For non US citizens they should get a military trial and military execution within a short period of time. Remove the idiotic rules of engagement. If they shoot from a house, blow the house up, fuck the family. Stop worrying about public image. Known government actors, ex. Iran rev guard, send them to allah. Stop aid or relationships with any gov actor that tacitly supports them, like Saudi Arabia. Hell, blockade/embargo/boycott countries that don't actively help kill bad guys. Let/help dictators kill them in their own country. Those and more on top of what our military and spies should already be doing. Very fine post. 
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:04:22 PM EDT
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President Trump made a bold promise yesterday during his inaugural speech to "wipe radical Islamic terrorists of the face of the earth." While I like the statement, accomplishing this will much be easier said than done and will take many years to succeed. What exactly must be done to stop Jihadists and future generations of them? Seems like bombing the shit out of them where they train and have strongholds in combination of a covert ground war would be the start. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:04:58 PM EDT
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President Trump made a bold promise yesterday during his inaugural speech to "wipe radical Islamic terrorists of the face of the earth." While I like the statement, accomplishing this will much be easier said than done and will take many years to succeed. What exactly must be done to stop Jihadists and future generations of them? Seems like bombing the shit out of them where they train and have strongholds in combination of a covert ground war would be the start. By putting the screws to islamic leaders and nations. Islamic terrorism is so broadly integrated into too many average muslim lives to say most muslims are peace loving people. It is so obvious that I wonder who is obama kidding? Not this Christian. |
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Posted: 1/21/2017 1:06:21 PM EDT
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He's not. Can't kill an idea. Sure you can. You'll notice very little support for the idea of an imperial Japan headed by a god-emperor of late. But you must thoroughly defeat your adversary and he must feel himself to be defeated. It will be a long battle to wipe out Islamic extremism. Probably most of us won't live to see the end of it. But, actually naming your enemy and fighting him is the first step, something that Obama refused to do for the last 8 years. |
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