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Posted: 11/29/2006 6:25:28 PM EDT
how many db's?

thanks
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:26:19 PM EDT
[#1]
It's gotta be at least 180.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:26:47 PM EDT
[#2]
what?
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:28:12 PM EDT
[#3]
120 db at 1 meter.

The federal safety standard requires a minimum 96 db at a point 100 feet in front of the train and four feet above track level.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:28:49 PM EDT
[#4]
Go to hornblasters.com, they have one in a car (on video) scaring the hell out of people.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:30:08 PM EDT
[#5]
The whistles on those old steam trains were loud as hell.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:30:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Thats funnny.

I heard one here by the beach ( there isn't a train within 10 miles).

I guess somone had it in the vehicle.

I think I need one for my F250
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:31:17 PM EDT
[#7]
A customer has the real thing in his superduty hooked up to some airtanks....IT"S FUCKING LOUD!!
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:31:50 PM EDT
[#8]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


180db is louder then you could ever imagine.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:33:01 PM EDT
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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:33:05 PM EDT
[#10]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


180db is louder then you could ever imagine.
If you compare it to car audio records, it's not that far off.  My assumption is that the real big train horn up close is going to be louder than any car stereo
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:33:39 PM EDT
[#11]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:35:52 PM EDT
[#12]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I already posted the correct answer above. A genuine train horn runs at 120 db 1 meter from the horn. At 100 feet, it still produces 96 db.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:36:03 PM EDT
[#13]
The loudest I've found on the inter net was 152db but I dont think those would be as loud as a real one.  I'm sitting about 3 miles away from the nearest train track and I cant even here my TV when they go through.


search fire fighter horn and its down aways (on ebay)
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:36:16 PM EDT
[#14]
it is officially very loud!
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:37:18 PM EDT
[#15]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


Sound measurements are logarithmic.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:37:19 PM EDT
[#16]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I've worked in the pro audio industry for over 20 years...your wrong.

But, if it will make you happy. Here you go.

www.ntsb.gov/Speeches/rosenker/mvr050721.htm
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:37:26 PM EDT
[#17]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


180db is louder then you could ever imagine.
If you compare it to car audio records, it's not that far off.  My assumption is that the real big train horn up close is going to be louder than any car stereo


A 16" AR-15 from the FRONT is probably only around 140-150 at one meter, if that.


Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:38:10 PM EDT
[#18]
I happen to have a set of genuine Nathan Airchime K5LA horns.
The same model used on North American Amtrak engines.

I'm somewhat of an enthusiast, and bought these new.  Cost nearly $1000 10 years ago.

I blasted them only once.  In town.  At a buddy's house.
I got the hell out of there before the cops showed up.
Lots of neighbors got very pissed.

Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:38:55 PM EDT
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I happen to have a set of genuine Nathan Airchime K5LA horns.
The same model used on North American Amtrak engines.

I'm somewhat of an enthusiast, and bought these new.  Cost nearly $1000 10 years ago.

home.mchsi.com/~the_reaper/horns.jpg


Hook that sum'bitch up to your telephone!
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:40:12 PM EDT
[#20]

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I happen to have a set of genuine Nathan Airchime K5LA horns.
The same model used on North American Amtrak engines.

I'm somewhat of an enthusiast, and bought these new.  Cost nearly $1000 10 years ago.

I blasted them only once.  In town.  At a buddy's house.
I got the hell out of there before the cops showed up.
Lots of neighbors got very pissed.

home.mchsi.com/~the_reaper/horns.jpg


Very nice!
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:41:12 PM EDT
[#21]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I already posted the correct answer above. A genuine train horn runs at 120 db 1 meter from the horn. At 100 feet, it still produces 96 db.
That's wrong.  I'm yelling at you right now louder than 120db.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:41:56 PM EDT
[#22]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


Sound measurements are logarithmic.
I know you want to sound smart by saying that (and I assure you, we all know that), but how does it effect the current conversation?
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:43:07 PM EDT
[#23]
According to 49 CFR 229.129

Each lead locomotive shall be provided with an audible warning
device that produces a minimum sound level of 96dB(A) and a maximum
sound level of 110 dB(A) at 100 feet forward of the locomotive in its
direction of travel.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:43:28 PM EDT
[#24]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I've worked in the pro audio industry for over 20 years...your wrong.

But, if it will make you happy. Here you go.

www.ntsb.gov/Speeches/rosenker/mvr050721.htm
That link is not proof in any way.

What does your pro audio industry experience have to do with train horns?
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:45:21 PM EDT
[#25]
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:48:25 PM EDT
[#26]

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Inbox, lose the combative attitude and you'll get farther around here.
That only started when I got the retard smilie (I see you're not commenting on that, tho).

Also, I'm not looking to get very far, but thanks for the advice.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:48:44 PM EDT
[#27]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I've worked in the pro audio industry for over 20 years...your wrong.

But, if it will make you happy. Here you go.

www.ntsb.gov/Speeches/rosenker/mvr050721.htm
That link is not proof in any way.

What does your pro audio industry experience have to do with train horns?


Uhh, sound is measured in db. I do a lot of measuring with db meters.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:49:11 PM EDT
[#28]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I already posted the correct answer above. A genuine train horn runs at 120 db 1 meter from the horn. At 100 feet, it still produces 96 db.
That's wrong.  I'm yelling at you right now louder than 120db.


There is a federal standard. You can read it in 49 CFR 229. Linky to pertinent regulation
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:49:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:49:56 PM EDT
[#30]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I already posted the correct answer above. A genuine train horn runs at 120 db 1 meter from the horn. At 100 feet, it still produces 96 db.
That's wrong.  I'm yelling at you right now louder than 120db.


There is a federal standard. You can read it in 49 CFR 229. Linky to pertinent regulation


I posted that same reg several posts ago on page 1
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:50:16 PM EDT
[#31]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I've worked in the pro audio industry for over 20 years...your wrong.

But, if it will make you happy. Here you go.

www.ntsb.gov/Speeches/rosenker/mvr050721.htm
That link is not proof in any way.

What does your pro audio industry experience have to do with train horns?


Uhh, sound is measured in db. I do a lot of measuring with db meters.
You've been around the world measuring train horns?

Your words: "No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point. "

BTW, nice edit to this:


Quoted:
Uhh, sound is measured in db. I do a lot of measuring with db meters.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:50:53 PM EDT
[#32]

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home.mchsi.com/~the_reaper/horns2.jpg


Hey Reaper, I see you're getting that rig ready to ship so I'll have it by Christmas. You da man.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:51:35 PM EDT
[#33]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I already posted the correct answer above. A genuine train horn runs at 120 db 1 meter from the horn. At 100 feet, it still produces 96 db.
That's wrong.  I'm yelling at you right now louder than 120db.


There is a federal standard. You can read it in 49 CFR 229. Linky to pertinent regulation


I posted that same reg several posts ago on page 1


But I posted a link.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:53:18 PM EDT
[#34]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I already posted the correct answer above. A genuine train horn runs at 120 db 1 meter from the horn. At 100 feet, it still produces 96 db.
That's wrong.  I'm yelling at you right now louder than 120db.


There is a federal standard. You can read it in 49 CFR 229. Linky to pertinent regulation


I posted that same reg several posts ago on page 1


Are they legal in a car or truck ? like what I seen at the hornblasters web site ?
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:54:20 PM EDT
[#35]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point.

Instead of using the childish smilie, why not spend your time proving me wrong?


I've worked in the pro audio industry for over 20 years...your wrong.

But, if it will make you happy. Here you go.

www.ntsb.gov/Speeches/rosenker/mvr050721.htm
That link is not proof in any way.

What does your pro audio industry experience have to do with train horns?


Uhh, sound is measured in db. I do a lot of measuring with db meters.
You've been around the world measuring train horns?

Your words: "No way. Not even at the standard 1 watt 1 meter measuring point. "

BTW, nice edit to this:


Quoted:
Uhh, sound is measured in db. I do a lot of measuring with db meters.


Look, your an obvious troll that doesn't know what the hell your talking about so rather than trying to stir up shit whay don't you run along to bed.
I edited my last post to add this for you
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:54:22 PM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:55:35 PM EDT
[#37]

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Look, your an obvious troll that doesn't know what the hell your talking about so rather than trying to stir up shit whay don't you run along to bed.
I edited my last post to add this for you
I'm not a troll.

You came into this thread acting like an asshole and making outragous claims for no reason.
I asked you to prove your claims, but all you did was continue to act like an asshole.

BTW, if you actually were in the pro audio industry, there is no way in hell you'd agree that train horns are no louder than 110db.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:56:10 PM EDT
[#38]

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Are they legal in a car or truck ? like what I seen at the hornblasters web site ?


Anything is legal if you don't get caught.....  right?

I'm sure it would be one of those "legal to have it, illegal to use it" things.

I'm not aware of anything prohibiting you from having it operational on your vehicle,
but as soon as you created a distrubance, you would get into trouble.

Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:57:07 PM EDT
[#39]

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home.mchsi.com/~the_reaper/horns2.jpg


Hey Reaper, I see you're getting that rig ready to ship so I'll have it by Christmas. You da man.




Hey wait you didnt give the "I'll take it"  so I guess there still up for grabs.

How much you want for 'em?




seriously how much?
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:58:28 PM EDT
[#40]

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Look, your an obvious troll that doesn't know what the hell your talking about so rather than trying to stir up shit whay don't you run along to bed.
I edited my last post to add this for you
I'm not a troll.

You came into this thread acting like an asshole and making outragous claims for no reason.
I asked you to prove your claims, but all you did was continue to act like an asshole.


The weak always resort to making shit up and calling names.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:59:05 PM EDT
[#41]
Funny I saw this thread. I was walking to my car yesterday when a train came through town. I was parked about 40 ft. from the tracks. I don't know the decibel level, but the damn thing is loud! I even had to cover my half-deaf ear.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:59:15 PM EDT
[#42]

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Look, your an obvious troll that doesn't know what the hell your talking about so rather than trying to stir up shit whay don't you run along to bed.
I edited my last post to add this for you
I'm not a troll.

You came into this thread acting like an asshole and making outragous claims for no reason.
I asked you to prove your claims, but all you did was continue to act like an asshole.


The weak always resort to making shit up and calling names.
You did the name calling in the first post, you can hide it behind a smilie but we know what you mean.  Since you want to act like an asshole, I will call you on it.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:59:28 PM EDT
[#43]

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Are they legal in a car or truck ? like what I seen at the hornblasters web site ?


Anything is legal if you don't get caught.....  right?

I'm sure it would be one of those "legal to have it, illegal to use it" things.

I'm not aware of anything prohibiting you from having it operational on your vehicle,
but as soon as you created a distrubance, you would get into trouble.







In MI, the vehicle code says something about "unreasonably loud" but never gives an exact db level so....
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 6:59:28 PM EDT
[#44]

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home.mchsi.com/~the_reaper/horns2.jpg


Hey Reaper, I see you're getting that rig ready to ship so I'll have it by Christmas. You da man.




Hey wait you didnt give the "I'll take it"  so I guess there still up for grabs.

How much you want for 'em?




seriously how much?


Buy a new set.  I wouldn't sell them for less than it would cost to replace.

Link Posted: 11/29/2006 7:01:04 PM EDT
[#45]

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Are they legal in a car or truck ? like what I seen at the hornblasters web site ?


Anything is legal if you don't get caught.....  right?

I'm sure it would be one of those "legal to have it, illegal to use it" things.

I'm not aware of anything prohibiting you from having it operational on your vehicle,
but as soon as you created a distrubance, you would get into trouble.



All I can think is getting behind a person in a BMW, talking on a cell phone, driving
45 MPH on the freeway and hitting those horns. And watch that cell phone flying Through the sun roof !
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 7:01:10 PM EDT
[#46]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


180db is louder then you could ever imagine.
If you compare it to car audio records, it's not that far off.  My assumption is that the real big train horn up close is going to be louder than any car stereo


A 16" AR-15 from the FRONT is probably only around 140-150 at one meter, if that.




Funny you should mention that:

Webmd says 140 db

.375 can go to 170 dB

M16A2 = 157 dB

Link Posted: 11/29/2006 7:04:15 PM EDT
[#47]

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home.mchsi.com/~the_reaper/horns2.jpg


Hey Reaper, I see you're getting that rig ready to ship so I'll have it by Christmas. You da man.




Hey wait you didnt give the "I'll take it"  so I guess there still up for grabs.

How much you want for 'em?




seriously how much?


Buy a new set.  I wouldn't sell them for less than it would cost to replace.





Yeah I figured youd say that.  
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 7:04:28 PM EDT
[#48]

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It's gotta be at least 180.


180db is louder then you could ever imagine.
If you compare it to car audio records, it's not that far off.  My assumption is that the real big train horn up close is going to be louder than any car stereo


A 16" AR-15 from the FRONT is probably only around 140-150 at one meter, if that.




Funny you should mention that:

Webmd says 140 db

.375 can go to 170 dB

M16A2 = 157 dB



I measured my Colt Commando (11.5") muzzle at 161db -
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 7:06:52 PM EDT
[#49]

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Inbox, lose the combative attitude and you'll get farther around here.
That only started when I got the retard smilie (I see you're not commenting on that, tho).

Also, I'm not looking to get very far, but thanks for the advice.



Maybee you should have picked a better name for yourself........OUTBOX comes to mind.
Link Posted: 11/29/2006 7:09:26 PM EDT
[#50]
180 dB is equivalent to a modern fighter jet taking off,   at "Duck or it'll hit you" range.


In theory, 150 dB in midrange/treble frequencies will cause deafness at those frequencies in a matter of seconds.



The progression is logarithmic,  base 10.   Meaning that 160 dB has 10 times the energy of 150 dB,  and 170 dB  has 10 times the energy of 160 and 100 times the energy of 150 dB.


Shuttle launch at the pad:  210 dB.  If the fire and the chemicals didn't kill you,  the sound would.

CJ
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