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Posted: 6/1/2023 9:53:05 AM EDT
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That is not the only dumb things to be plastered on pistols. S&W M&P pistols that did not have the mag safety had a warning on the slide it could fire without the mag. The Girsan Hi Power has Warning read safety manual engraved on the frame. I think I would rather have grip zone than the stupid warnings plastered on my pistol.
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Posted: 6/1/2023 9:55:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: alex zedra needs a GRIPZONE tattoo on her hips  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/253414/NWL1nRB_jpeg-2836022.JPG 
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Posted: 6/1/2023 9:56:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet here you are, raging out about it with useless anger enough to create a thread on the subject about it wanting to rehash things. Let it go dude. Let it go.   Attached File |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:01:39 AM EDT
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what a very odd thing to get the vapors about - now Springfield is an antigun company that imports its product so why anyone would even consider one is a bigger mental challenge for me
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:03:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what's wrong with them. Change my mind? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yea I like XDs. That decision was a WTF for sure though. It's okay if you like XDs. It's June. So what's wrong with them. Change my mind? Yeah my original XD-9 is reliable and accurate. But its just a gun, I have more issues with SA as a company than I do with the XD line. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:30:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah my original XD-9 is reliable and accurate. But its just a gun, I have more issues with SA as a company than I do with the XD line. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yea I like XDs. That decision was a WTF for sure though. It's okay if you like XDs. It's June. So what's wrong with them. Change my mind? Yeah my original XD-9 is reliable and accurate. But its just a gun, I have more issues with SA as a company than I do with the XD line. I would hazard a guess that 3/4 of the people on here who bitch about the XDs have never fired one. They only bust on them because of bullshit that they have heard. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:03:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would hazard a guess that 3/4 of the people on here who bitch about the XDs have never fired one. They only bust on them because of bullshit that they have heard. I have owned a few I really do not bust on them but I never liked them and I really tried to give them a chance. They are not bad pistol but they do have some things about them that I really do not like kind of like me in the Beretta M9/92. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:09:37 AM EDT
[#8]
 LOL at some of your understanding of modern marketing hype.How about a revolutionary Stoner designed pistol made from modern materials. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:22:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They probably realized that if they could dupe a bunch of dudes into thinking their Croatian trash can pistol was actually worth buying at Glock and M&P prices, they could put whatever dumb shit they wanted into marketing and it wouldn't move the sales needle. Well the triggers are certainly better in the XD/XDM/XDM2 than OEM Glock triggers...oh and the base sights aren't plastic, nor are the mags. In before "my BIL's 3rd cousin's bestie had one that done broke in two i swear but i musta lost the pictures.." ETA: yes, Grip Zone was stupid...i don't own a "grip zone" model of XD. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:33:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is not the only dumb things to be plastered on pistols. S&W M&P pistols that did not have the mag safety had a warning on the slide it could fire without the mag. The Girsan Hi Power has Warning read safety manual engraved on the frame. I think I would rather have grip zone than the stupid warnings plastered on my pistol. It could be fixed with a soldering iron. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:39:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All these years later, and people still talk about it. Although not really in a positive light, I'd say that was very effective advertising to live rent free in peoples heads that long. Its not really saying anything bad about the guns, it's just funny. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 11:41:59 AM EDT
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Their marking gripzone on the grip was never an issue... dumb, yes, but the real issue and tragedy is the useless and dangerous grip safety.
They guaranteed I'd never buy one by adding a grip safety. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 12:05:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have owned a few I really do not bust on them but I never liked them and I really tried to give them a chance. They are not bad pistol but they do have some things about them that I really do not like kind of like me in the Beretta M9/92. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would hazard a guess that 3/4 of the people on here who bitch about the XDs have never fired one. They only bust on them because of bullshit that they have heard. I have owned a few I really do not bust on them but I never liked them and I really tried to give them a chance. They are not bad pistol but they do have some things about them that I really do not like kind of like me in the Beretta M9/92. Then I guess you would fall in the 25% who at least fired one and for whatever reason didn't like it. No problem there. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 12:07:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Welcome to 8 years ago OP. This. I have nothing but good thoughts about the "grip zone". I know a grip zone pistol helped me convert one of the most fuddtastic people i know to polymer. It's his main EDC and he is no slouch with it. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 12:21:57 PM EDT
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I enjoy the meme
But to me the guns with "Warning READ SAFETY MANUAL" and "FIRES WITHOUT THE MAGAZINE INSERTED" milled into them look even dumber  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 1:55:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But it turns a $300 Croatian gun into a $600 work of art. I never bought one due to that. was ready to order an HS2000 from an advertiser in Shotgun News and then Springfield Armory announced that they were the new importer and raised the price $200 immediately. couldn't find an HS after that and the XD was dead to me. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 4:56:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I never bought one due to that. was ready to order an HS2000 from an advertiser in Shotgun News and then Springfield Armory announced that they were the new importer and raised the price $200 immediately. couldn't find an HS after that and the XD was dead to me. Was still seeing them as low as $419 late last year, and now they are just $466. You are saying they were selling for as low as $219 as an HS2000? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 5:05:20 PM EDT
[#18]
Meh.
I can still hit any rat down at the local garbage dump with mine. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 5:06:39 PM EDT
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Not sure which one but PSA has one on sale now for like 350. or so.
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Posted: 6/1/2023 5:10:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2023 5:11:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I enjoy the meme But to me the guns with "Warning READ SAFETY MANUAL" and "FIRES WITHOUT THE MAGAZINE INSERTED" milled into them look even dumber https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285899/Screenshot_2023-06-01_112139_png-2836568.JPG Paddle mag release is the greatest sin the Euros ever committed. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 6:15:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was still seeing them as low as $419 late last year, and now they are just $466. You are saying they were selling for as low as $219 as an HS2000? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I never bought one due to that. was ready to order an HS2000 from an advertiser in Shotgun News and then Springfield Armory announced that they were the new importer and raised the price $200 immediately. couldn't find an HS after that and the XD was dead to me. Was still seeing them as low as $419 late last year, and now they are just $466. You are saying they were selling for as low as $219 as an HS2000? back in 2000, they were selling as the HS2000 for under $250. but when SA bought the US rights, the price of the XD was around $450. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 6:47:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2023 6:55:07 PM EDT
[#24]
Funny how many lose their shit over this. Big fucking deal.
Fucking GD. Always disappoints. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 6:56:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny how many lose their shit over this. Big fucking deal. Fucking GD. Always disappoints. It was really goofy to see if you were around guns at the time. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 6:58:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Love my non grip zone Turk clones.
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Posted: 6/1/2023 6:58:25 PM EDT
[#27]
Who cares? Put some grip tape over it if it bothers you. It’s an otherwise great gun.
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Posted: 6/1/2023 7:14:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I tried to get it tattooed on my schlong but only had room for gri LMAO /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/vladimir-putin-laughing_zpsov82lsef_GIF-129.gif I went with LZ for lip zone but it’s perpendicular to the axis. The other tat says “welcome to California have a nice day”. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 9:17:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was really goofy to see if you were around guns at the time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Funny how many lose their shit over this. Big fucking deal. Fucking GD. Always disappoints. It was really goofy to see if you were around guns at the time. We were, we just never said anything about it because there was zero reason to as it was a non issue unless one on the spectrum wanted it to be an issue. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 9:19:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 12 point font is a bitch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I tried to get it tattooed on my schlong but only had room for gri  
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Posted: 6/2/2023 9:21:52 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: alex zedra needs a GRIPZONE tattoo on her hips https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/253414/NWL1nRB_jpeg-2836022.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 9:27:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup... 'Grip zone' is evidently so 'grippy' that many just can't let it go. Very effective indeed. In the interest of full disclosure the last time I shot one of 'those things' it said HS2000 on it. I love my HS2000. Bought it at a gun show in ‘99-‘00 for about $300. I’d never heard of them before, but it fit my hand perfectly. Full-cap mags for it were my very first purchase when the AWB ended. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 9:36:59 AM EDT
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Pay attention to product names. Marketing comes up with a trend, and everyone jumps on it.
Today it is Works, Worx or some variation. Not too long ago it was "Zone". Before that it was "One". And way back in the late eighties it was "Plus". |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 9:47:55 AM EDT
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 More GripZone(!) with Team Springfield's Rob Leatham |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 9:59:14 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Their marking gripzone on the grip was never an issue... dumb, yes, but the real issue and tragedy is the useless and dangerous grip safety. They guaranteed I'd never buy one by adding a grip safety. How is the grip safety dangerous? It's certainly not useless. I have a couple of first generation XDs and the grip safety is a great feature for reholstering. If you reholster with your thumb on the back of the slide, if by some chance part of your clothing contacted the trigger, what would normally become a "glock leg" discharge just doesn't happen. Additionally, if you aren't gripping the frame securely enough to disengage the grip safety, you are going to limp wrist the gun and cause malfunctions. |
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Posted: 6/2/2023 12:25:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Their marking gripzone on the grip was never an issue... dumb, yes, but the real issue and tragedy is the useless and dangerous grip safety. They guaranteed I'd never buy one by adding a grip safety. I bought mine largely because of the grip safety. It’s been flawless for over 20 years. Can’t say I’ve ever heard a grip safety called dangerous before. |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 5:07:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The stupid impotent rage that lives in some of your heads rent free over benign semantical shit never stops, does it? If you like your grip zone, you can keep your grip zone. |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 5:13:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought mine largely because of the grip safety. It’s been flawless for over 20 years. Can’t say I’ve ever heard a grip safety called dangerous before. There was a member here who got in a gunfight (dont remember their screen name), and was shot in the hand. He was not able to depress the grip safety of his 1911 as a result. He was very against the idea of grip safeties after that. IIRC go-fast .mil guys would pin their grip safeties when the 1911 was still being issued for this reason. @Admiral_Crunch |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 5:15:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a member here who got in a gunfight (dont remember their screen name), and was shot in the hand. He was not able to depress the grip safety of his 1911 as a result. He was very against the idea of grip safeties after that. IIRC go-fast .mil guys would pin their grip safeties when the 1911 was still being issued for this reason. @Admiral_Crunch Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bought mine largely because of the grip safety. It’s been flawless for over 20 years. Can’t say I’ve ever heard a grip safety called dangerous before. There was a member here who got in a gunfight (dont remember their screen name), and was shot in the hand. He was not able to depress the grip safety of his 1911 as a result. He was very against the idea of grip safeties after that. IIRC go-fast .mil guys would pin their grip safeties when the 1911 was still being issued for this reason. @Admiral_Crunch that would be Blitz_308 https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/My-CCW-Shooting-AAR-Now-with-More-Graphic-Pics-on-pg-29-and-30/5-988015/ |
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