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Posted: 2/14/2016 3:12:22 AM EST
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Help a brother out. What's up at cerro? Daniel Ditto! Is this now a "safe thread"? 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 3:20:05 AM EST
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Ditto! Is this now a "safe thread"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Help a brother out. What's up at cerro? Daniel Ditto! Is this now a "safe thread"? Yes. There is a safe at Cerro that is waiting to be opened.
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Posted: 2/14/2016 3:53:06 AM EST
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So OP, given what you said, under what circumstance should Cruz not be supported? Because we know what the criteria will be for a Cruz appointment
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Posted: 2/14/2016 4:08:41 AM EST
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This is without doubt the most pivotal time of our lives.
The most important election and the most important SCJ appointment. What happens over the next 12 months will set the course of America for the next 100 years. We are all living in an historical moment of time. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 4:36:00 AM EST
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Yep we're fucked In and Out |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 5:14:04 AM EST
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CERRO FORGE CERRO FORGE CERRO FORGE CERRO FORGE CERRO FORGE CERRO FORGE CERRO FORGE CERRO FORGE CERRO FORGE CERRO FORGE
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:20:05 AM EST
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Stonewalling an Obama SC nomination is a very risky strategy for the Republicans. It could lose them a lot of votes in November. Unlikely it would gain them votes, beyond people who would vote for them already. The most likely outcome for this impasse is that behind-the-scenes negotiations take place between the White House and the Senate leadership, so that Obama ends up nominating some middle-of-the-road judge who is not notably liberal (or conservative). In other words, the Senate GOP would have an effective veto over Obama's more extreme wishes. Anyway, the Heller decision is in deep peril of being overruled. And they want Citizens United gone too. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:21:57 AM EST
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You mean the true capitalist that wanted a one time tax for everyone with 10mil plus at 14.5%.....you trust him? More than the guy that wants a permanent 90% tax...... 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:30:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you ever watch Jay Leno's tonight show where he did a segment called "Jay Walking"? Here is one example:  https://youtu.be/WJlY9C7YWzI99% of the people you could meet on the street could not name the 9 current Supreme Court justices. (But they could rattle off 9 of the Broncos' players  )Consequently, I don't see it costing the Repubs votes in NovemberQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Stonewalling an Obama SC nomination is a very risky strategy for the Republicans. It could lose them a lot of votes in November. Unlikely it would gain them votes, beyond people who would vote for them already. The most likely outcome for this impasse is that behind-the-scenes negotiations take place between the White House and the Senate leadership, so that Obama ends up nominating some middle-of-the-road judge who is not notably liberal (or conservative). In other words, the Senate GOP would have an effective veto over Obama's more extreme wishes. Anyway, the Heller decision is in deep peril of being overruled. Did you ever watch Jay Leno's tonight show where he did a segment called "Jay Walking"? Here is one example: https://youtu.be/WJlY9C7YWzI99% of the people you could meet on the street could not name the 9 current Supreme Court justices. (But they could rattle off 9 of the Broncos' players )Consequently, I don't see it costing the Repubs votes in November |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:30:51 AM EST
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............ If McConnell does not allow it , it cannot even get to the floor for a vote, PERIOD! I emailed him and pleaded with him to hold the line. Please...............PLEASE EVERYONE.............email him and let him know you want him to hold strong................................PLEASE!!!!! |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:34:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OBAMA might be counting on no one filling the seat. Least until Hilary takes office. And, he'll blame it all on the Republicans. See how that works? Then..........you know she needs to re-pay him in some way, right.  So vote correctly and their plans go to $@^*. Aloha, Mark If a Republican wins, Obama will try to be UN Secretary General. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:55:44 AM EST
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This is without doubt the most pivotal time of our lives. The most important election and the most important SCJ appointment. What happens over the next 12 months will set the course of America for the next 100 years. We are all living in an historical moment of time. Rest assured the government will win. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:02:43 AM EST
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Hillary goes to SC Bernie gets elected No thanks. Obama helps Bernie get elected and Obama gets on the Supreme Court.
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:11:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Check your IM Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I wanted to scare you I'd tell you what is going on at Cerro forge I'll bite. What's going on at CF? Please send me an IM too, thanks. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:11:50 AM EST
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Consequently, I don't see it costing the Repubs votes in November The Senate GOP stonewalling Obama's SC pick would be played up by the media as obstructionism, in the same way as the government shutdown over budget issues. This sort of thing is anathema to independent voters. Also, another factor to consider is the shape of the presidential race as the year goes forward. If polling shows that the Dem candidate is leading after the conventions are over, the Senate GOP may decide to cut a deal with Obama rather than risk a more liberal Dem president. They would have more leverage with a lame-duck Obama, and might be able to get a non-leftist justice. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:15:50 AM EST
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Pretty much to what it's coming to... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Either way, dividing lines are drawn. Each side is sick of the other. Who fires first? Pretty much to what it's coming to... It's a civil Cold War right now. The problem is that Conservative judges act according to Constitutional protections and leave their politics behind. Liberals justices are political activists. WHEN, not if, the court goes 6:3 liberal the communists are going to go full court press. As much as I think many of jrzy's posts are eyebrow raising, this time he is absolutely right. The first thing the liberals are going to do is get rid of the second amendment. Having armed people makes doing whatever the hell you want to them rather difficult. The liberals know this. They don't give a shit about public safety etc. That said, I think it will be our side that fires the first real shot. A wildly unpopular decision and you suddenly have a very unhappy person looking to do something to one of them, and it would be absurdly easy. After that it just depends on which side the military and police fall on. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:19:30 AM EST
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It's a civil Cold War right now. The problem is that Conservative judges act according to Constitutional protections and leave their politics behind. Liberals justices are political activists. WHEN, not if, the court goes 6:3 liberal the communists are going to go full court press. As much as I think many of jrzy's posts are eyebrow raising, this time he is absolutely right. The first thing the liberals are going to do is get rid of the second amendment. Having armed people makes doing whatever the hell you want to them rather difficult. The liberals know this. They don't give a shit about public safety etc. That said, I think it will be our side that fires the first real shot. A wildly unpopular decision and you suddenly have a very unhappy person looking to do something to one of them, and it would be absurdly easy. After that it just depends on which side the military and police fall on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Either way, dividing lines are drawn. Each side is sick of the other. Who fires first? Pretty much to what it's coming to... It's a civil Cold War right now. The problem is that Conservative judges act according to Constitutional protections and leave their politics behind. Liberals justices are political activists. WHEN, not if, the court goes 6:3 liberal the communists are going to go full court press. As much as I think many of jrzy's posts are eyebrow raising, this time he is absolutely right. The first thing the liberals are going to do is get rid of the second amendment. Having armed people makes doing whatever the hell you want to them rather difficult. The liberals know this. They don't give a shit about public safety etc. That said, I think it will be our side that fires the first real shot. A wildly unpopular decision and you suddenly have a very unhappy person looking to do something to one of them, and it would be absurdly easy. After that it just depends on which side the military and police fall on. I can't say I disagree with this. Add in crushing national debt, tons of personal debt, healthcare costs doubling (or worse) under obamacare, banks now required to 'test' NIRP, racial divides, etc... It's very likely one on our side will simply lose it, and that'd be a goldmine for the left to play with. Instant demonization of us, and many in the middle will lap it up. Not liking where any of this is going. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:21:39 AM EST
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I said we have aging Conservative justices hanging on until we can take back the white house.,I was chided , laughed at and said yeah yeah all the elections are the most important. If McConnell does not live up to his statement this hour and force this to stay off the floor we are dead. The court will then swing 5-4 liberal One more Justice after that the court goes 6-3 liberal. The next President hold our future in his hands And before anyone says Trump will put a liberal on the bench BS First I don't believe he would violate his oath of office and I do not believe a true Capitalist would do so. We also have the Senate to stop him. Now you all know damn well bernie or hilary would do their level best to ensure a liberal court. Who is next? RIP Your Honor A fine judge and good Conservative The real issue with Trump is that he has no true understanding as to what a liberal is and supports because he was one. He still has some of those views with planned parenthood and taxes and government control, regulations so his view is and always will be tainted. he showed this in the debate last night and he cant help it its just how he feels. I love the energy and the things he brought to the front of this election but he cant finish the deal because he has no plan other than it will be the biggest and bestus ever and its getting old. he better come up with some new ideas or he will fade in the end. I support Ted but would vote for Trump if he gets the nod but honestly his circus tent is falling down all around him. I hope as a country we can get our shit together and stop looking like a bunch of finger pointing asshats that have no real ideas only name calling. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:23:31 AM EST
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If you have any doubt what the Left will do, here it is. Off a DNC mailer.
"But no matter what Mitch McConnell says, President Obama is going to fulfill his constitutional obligation to nominate a successor to fill the vacant seat on the Supreme Court -- and that nominee deserves a fair hearing in the Senate. Add your name to call on Republicans to follow the Constitution instead of obstructing the confirmation of our next Supreme Court justice:" They see blood in the water.
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:37:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So OP, given what you said, under what circumstance should Cruz not be supported? Because we know what the criteria will be for a Cruz appointment His picks might be as right as they can be but thats not a bad thing if we can get them through |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:37:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is without doubt the most pivotal time of our lives. The most important election and the most important SCJ appointment. What happens over the next 12 months will set the course of America for the next 100 years. We are all living in an historical moment of time. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:38:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I emailed him and pleaded with him to hold the line. Please...............PLEASE EVERYONE.............email him and let him know you want him to hold strong................................PLEASE!!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ............ If McConnell does not allow it , it cannot even get to the floor for a vote, PERIOD! I emailed him and pleaded with him to hold the line. Please...............PLEASE EVERYONE.............email him and let him know you want him to hold strong................................PLEASE!!!!! |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:50:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The real issue with Trump is that he has no true understanding as to what a liberal is and supports because he was one. He still has some of those views with planned parenthood and taxes and government control, regulations so his view is and always will be tainted. he showed this in the debate last night and he cant help it its just how he feels. I love the energy and the things he brought to the front of this election but he cant finish the deal because he has no plan other than it will be the biggest and bestus ever and its getting old. he better come up with some new ideas or he will fade in the end. I support Ted but would vote for Trump if he gets the nod but honestly his circus tent is falling down all around him. I hope as a country we can get our shit together and stop looking like a bunch of finger pointing asshats that have no real ideas only name calling. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I said we have aging Conservative justices hanging on until we can take back the white house.,I was chided , laughed at and said yeah yeah all the elections are the most important. If McConnell does not live up to his statement this hour and force this to stay off the floor we are dead. The court will then swing 5-4 liberal One more Justice after that the court goes 6-3 liberal. The next President hold our future in his hands And before anyone says Trump will put a liberal on the bench BS First I don't believe he would violate his oath of office and I do not believe a true Capitalist would do so. We also have the Senate to stop him. Now you all know damn well bernie or hilary would do their level best to ensure a liberal court. Who is next? RIP Your Honor A fine judge and good Conservative The real issue with Trump is that he has no true understanding as to what a liberal is and supports because he was one. He still has some of those views with planned parenthood and taxes and government control, regulations so his view is and always will be tainted. he showed this in the debate last night and he cant help it its just how he feels. I love the energy and the things he brought to the front of this election but he cant finish the deal because he has no plan other than it will be the biggest and bestus ever and its getting old. he better come up with some new ideas or he will fade in the end. I support Ted but would vote for Trump if he gets the nod but honestly his circus tent is falling down all around him. I hope as a country we can get our shit together and stop looking like a bunch of finger pointing asshats that have no real ideas only name calling. Now honestly look at how the govt works when someone is elected from either side they fill in govt positions form favors they need to repay, not the best people for the jobs, right? And this is exactly how we end up with a corrupt do nothing govt. When I got home from the Navy I got into the teamsters union in new jersey unloading trucks at a trucking hub , (Mason dixon) $21 an hour back then , a lot of money at that time. I worked like I always did to earn the money paid me. One day unloading a truck I looked up because the light entering the truck was dimmed, it was dimmed by 6 guys (big guys) who approached me and told me I need to slow down , that the pace I was working it was making them all look bad. I was shown a piece of paper that was the union contract stating how many pounds of freight per hour had to be unloaded. I was doing triple that easy . I was told to slow down or i might have an accident . I slowed down. I left that union job as soon as I could find another job. Thats is why unions side with dems, they back these contracts and work laws. They are whats destroying our Nation No more hard work needed to get ahead, let the govt take care of you from the cradle to the grave |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:54:50 PM EST
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Nope blah blah blah every election is important blah blah blah I'm not voting republican blah blah blah I'm voting 3rd party with my conscious blah blah blah I'm sick of both sides blah blah blah.
As they slowly watch the very fabric of our nation erode away. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:59:59 PM EST
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Obama will have an extreme hard left wing black nomination ready in days, already canned. McConnell will be forced to act, and the Senate to confirm, to avoid being called racists. End of story.
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I said we have aging Conservative justices hanging on until we can take back the white house.,I was chided , laughed at and said yeah yeah all the elections are the most important. If McConnell does not live up to his statement this hour and force this to stay off the floor we are dead. The court will then swing 5-4 liberal One more Justice after that the court goes 6-3 liberal. The next President hold our future in his hands And before anyone says Trump will put a liberal on the bench BS First I don't believe he would violate his oath of office and I do not believe a true Capitalist would do so. We also have the Senate to stop him. Now you all know damn well bernie or hilary would do their level best to ensure a liberal court. Who is next? Obama will have an extreme hard left wing black nomination ready in days, already canned. McConnell will be forced to act, and the Senate to confirm, to avoid being called racists. End of story.
The extreme left wing is what hussein wants, the race card will probably be used to help get what he wants. For that matter, the "race" card might be played with a moslem instead. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 1:11:15 PM EST
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I was out to dinner with my wife and kids, when this news popped up on my phone. A wave of panic and dread come over me, my jaw dropped and all I said was, "oh no. This is not good." My wife freaked out at first, until I told her what it was about, then she was fine. She is not nearly as involved as I am. She votes and that's it. Maybe she will listen to the news, for about 5 seconds before she gets bored. I know they said he died in his sleep, but I can't help but think Obama had him killed. Call it wacko, conspiracy, tin-foilsh, but Scalia has been the voice of reason in the courts and a thorn in Obama's side. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is this another thread that you try to invoke a panic so people buy more gun shit? I was out to dinner with my wife and kids, when this news popped up on my phone. A wave of panic and dread come over me, my jaw dropped and all I said was, "oh no. This is not good." My wife freaked out at first, until I told her what it was about, then she was fine. She is not nearly as involved as I am. She votes and that's it. Maybe she will listen to the news, for about 5 seconds before she gets bored. I know they said he died in his sleep, but I can't help but think Obama had him killed. Call it wacko, conspiracy, tin-foilsh, but Scalia has been the voice of reason in the courts and a thorn in Obama's side. That was the first thing I thought of when I read the news. It doesn't even have to be Obama behind it. There are likely a number of far left organizations with the power and resources to make this happen. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 1:13:58 PM EST
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Either way, dividing lines are drawn. Each side is sick of the other. Who fires first? Doesn't matter. The armed will always prevail over the self-disarmed |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 1:16:38 PM EST
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I don't trust Trump to nominate a true conservative. He's likely to find a middle of the road statist who is happy to continue expanding federal power. That's not to say his nominations wouldn't be better than Hillary or Sanders. Their choices would be even worse for the country. Ted IMO is likely to pick the best SC justices for the country. With Trump the best you can hope for is another Kennedy on the bench…which I kind of support when it comes to social issues. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 1:18:29 PM EST
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Communism is coming
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Posted: 2/14/2016 1:31:27 PM EST
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Anyone with a brain knows that SCOTUS appointments and the people put into position to make SCOTUS appointments is highly crucial. Hence why I stopped voting losertarian for POTUS many years ago.
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Posted: 2/14/2016 1:37:21 PM EST
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I wouldn't call Roberts a conservative
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Posted: 2/15/2016 4:49:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this another thread that you try to invoke a panic so people buy more gun shit? |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 4:52:39 PM EST
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Communism is coming Nothing will happen. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 5:03:44 PM EST
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Communism is coming It's been here for quite some time. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 5:21:13 PM EST
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Cerro forge is being bought to make Obama statues to replace all
The old Civil Wars stuff |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 5:27:08 PM EST
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If McConnell doesn't have the Senate back in session by tomorrow we could be fucked.
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Posted: 2/15/2016 5:48:07 PM EST
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I said we have aging Conservative justices hanging on until we can take back the white house.,I was chided , laughed at and said yeah yeah all the elections are the most important. If McConnell does not live up to his statement this hour and force this to stay off the floor we are dead. The court will then swing 5-4 liberal One more Justice after that the court goes 6-3 liberal. The next President hold our future in his hands And before anyone says Trump will put a liberal on the bench BS First I don't believe he would violate his oath of office and I do not believe a true Capitalist would do so. We also have the Senate to stop him. Now you all know damn well bernie or hilary would do their level best to ensure a liberal court. Who is next? RIP Your Honor A fine judge and good Conservative This. The Supreme Court is so narrowly divided right now. They are not a team of justices interpreting the Constitution anymore. There are clearly two sides. One, that believes in a framework of laws governed by the Constitution, and one that believes in using the court to drive social change by altering the meaning of the Constitution. We are well and truly fucked, if Obama gets another SC justice. |
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Posted: 2/15/2016 7:33:03 PM EST
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This. The Supreme Court is so narrowly divided right now. They are not a team of justices interpreting the Constitution anymore. There are clearly two sides. One, that believes in a framework of laws governed by the Constitution, and one that believes in using the court to drive social change by altering the meaning of the Constitution. We are well and truly fucked, if Obama gets another SC justice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I said we have aging Conservative justices hanging on until we can take back the white house.,I was chided , laughed at and said yeah yeah all the elections are the most important. If McConnell does not live up to his statement this hour and force this to stay off the floor we are dead. The court will then swing 5-4 liberal One more Justice after that the court goes 6-3 liberal. The next President hold our future in his hands And before anyone says Trump will put a liberal on the bench BS First I don't believe he would violate his oath of office and I do not believe a true Capitalist would do so. We also have the Senate to stop him. Now you all know damn well bernie or hilary would do their level best to ensure a liberal court. Who is next? RIP Your Honor A fine judge and good Conservative This. The Supreme Court is so narrowly divided right now. They are not a team of justices interpreting the Constitution anymore. There are clearly two sides. One, that believes in a framework of laws governed by the Constitution, and one that believes in using the court to drive social change by altering the meaning of the Constitution. We are well and truly fucked, if Obama gets another SC justice. We might be more screwed if he doesn't. Imagine the liberals going so nuts over "republican obstructionism " that we end up with Bernie or Hillary getting 3 or 4 nominations |
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