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Yeah, he wasn’t the worst president ever, but So why do conservatives love him so much? Why do liberals hate him so much? View Quote He put an end to the Carter Presidency and the pain the Nation suffered under it. |
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As far as guns, we are talking about Reagan while he was President, not afterwards. He appointed Ed Meese, the first AG who said that the 2nd Amendment included an individual right. The 1982 Senate Report came out during his term. These were the first times anyone in government had said that the 2nd amendment may actually protect an individual's RKBA. While the Republicans of that era were not perfect on guns, it had not even been an issue before then. It was nothing. It started to become something during Reagan's presidency. Finally, Reagan appointed the Justice who wrote the Heller opinion, and another Justice who who voted in favor. No Reagan, no Scalia and Kennedy, no Heller.
It is like criticizing Washington for fighting with the British army. He was obviously a traitor. But that was before there was a 'Merica. Before Reagan, there was essentially no Second Amendment. During the Reagan Administration the seeds were planted, and in the 2nd Bush administration the seeds finally bore fruit. |
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He put an end to the Carter Presidency and the pain the Nation suffered under it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yeah, he wasn’t the worst president ever, but So why do conservatives love him so much? Why do liberals hate him so much? He put an end to the Carter Presidency and the pain the Nation suffered under it. In context, think about the health care cost increases nowadays but the govt basically says FU, pay it, no help from us financially, deal with it and wear a sweater, it's the way it is, oh, BTW, we aren't letting you free ride on someone else's dime under that regular rates. |
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Yeah, he wasn’t the worst president ever, but: -He didn’t cause the collapse of the USSR -He opened the door to trade dependency with the Chinese Communists -He didn’t do shit about jihadists killing almost 300 of our service members -He conspired with the Fudd parts of the NRA to infringe on our Second Amendment rights and supported an AWB after leaving office -He didn’t intervene to stop thatcher from handing over Hong Kong to the Commies without so much as a polite word against it So why do conservatives love him so much? Why do liberals hate him so much? View Quote I don't know if this has been addressed in the last 4 pages, but are you suggesting that President Reagan had the ability to go back in time to 1898 and alter the terms of a lease, and simply chose not to? |
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Born in ‘89. His successor/VP hated freedom and liked gun control too View Quote I'm 11 years older than you and remember Reagan being a pretty well loved president. Coming out of the shit show that was the 70's , dealing with the explosion in drugs, violence and aids. PLUS the whole USSR/cold war deal. I would say for all intents and purposes he did an excellent job with what he has to work with. You're not old enough to remember the berlin wall coming down. You never watched the news or saw how oppressed those people were. You didnt see friends family members show up here and how haggard and disheveled they looked. SO thankful to be the fuck out of there. They used to walk around the neighborhood collecting up dandelions, nuts and berries and shit. Then sit in the front yard eating them. It was fucking crazy. My friends grandma went BALLISTIC when we came home with a stringer of fish and started beating my friend with a stick! Why? Because she though the government was going to come take us away for stealing fish! AS a sad note. 2 years ago a Russian girl was down at the marina/beach when we came with with a few keeper striped bass. She was amazed we were A. Allowed to catch fish and B. The fish weren't "poison" She had to call her father and he came down to see the wonderful fish! We sent them home with a nice big fillet. |
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In a time when over half the world had fallen under the sway of the power and influence being projected out of the U.S.S.R., even right on America's doorstep, and the walls were closing in fast, Reagan stepped into the breach to offer a resolute alternative to tyranny. People now try to attribute the fall of global communism to various other factors, including that it would "collapse under its own weight," but that house of cards wasn't without a lot of glue in the form of force and repression holding it together. It took a strong push to topple it. Reagan made that push.
As for debt and deficits, before Reagan the top marginal tax rate was over 70%. By the end of Reagan's term it was about 30%. |
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We could have had another 4 years of Jimmy Carter.
What a treat that would have been! |
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If you were not an adult or a reasonably smart teen and didn't live it, they will have a very hard time understanding what those times put middle class families and people through. In context, think about the health care cost increases nowadays but the govt basically says FU, pay it, no help from us financially, deal with it and wear a sweater, it's the way it is, oh, BTW, we aren't letting you free ride on someone else's dime under that regular rates. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yeah, he wasn’t the worst president ever, but So why do conservatives love him so much? Why do liberals hate him so much? He put an end to the Carter Presidency and the pain the Nation suffered under it. In context, think about the health care cost increases nowadays but the govt basically says FU, pay it, no help from us financially, deal with it and wear a sweater, it's the way it is, oh, BTW, we aren't letting you free ride on someone else's dime under that regular rates. These young people are incapable of understanding, because they lack the perspective gained from having to endure the Carter years. They've never had to wait three hours in line to receive their gasoline ration, and only on alternate days based on their license plate. My daughter has never had to endure that kind of hardship, and I'm grateful for that. |
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Although there were a few things I really disliked about the Reagan administration, and the Iran-Contra Scandal is really unforgivable, there are a lot of things about Reagan I can admire, especially now. Reagan was intelligent. He wrote a lot of his own speeches, and he used grownup, multi-syllable words. People could always understand what he was talking about, even when his mind started to deteriorate during his last years. He delivered speeches very well. In my memory, only Obama delivered speeches better. During press conferences, he treated reporters as professionals, part of the fabric of democracy, even when he didn't like their questions. He reportedly was a very nice man, treating even minor employees with respect and kindness. From all accounts, he sincerely loved his wife, and treated her with great deference. For example, he never said on radio that he would no longer love his wife if she did not have big tits. In short, Reagan was not a pussy-grabbing president. He had class. View Quote nasty bitch hillary lost get over it! |
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Seventeenters are funny. If you weren't and adult through the 1970's you have not right to comment on how much he DID do for this country.
- When he took office the inflation rate was running at as high as 17%. Imagine having a 17% mortgage to pay off. Variable rate mortgages were common. And some with no rate cap. Care to ride that wave for the next 30 years? - There country was beyond demoralized. It had almost given up on itself. He dared it to be great again and it responded. - The military was in a shambles and held in low regard. Especially by the main stream media. He rebuilt the military and restored morale. - When the bombing of the Marine Corp barracks occurred in Beirut he stood up and took the blame as CIC as it happened on his watch and they were there by his orders. - JFK stood in front of the Berlin Wall and called himself a jelly doughnut. ("Ich bin ein Berliner") Ronald Reagan dared "Mr. Gorbachev. Tear down this wall!". His advisors were appalled by the comment. He didn't give a damn and history proved him right. - At his first cabinet meeting he declared that he was not running the office of POTUS as if he were running for reelection. He would do what he thought was right and good for the country. The American people would let him know if they liked what he was doing. The next presidential election results speak for themselves. No he wasn't perfect, but he was the best president of the 20th century. FDR wasn't fit to clean his toilet. He started out a liberal but changed to a conservative and rued his days as a liberal for the rest of his life. |
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You were an infant when he left office I'm 11 years older than you and remember Reagan being a pretty well loved president. Coming out of the shit show that was the 70's , dealing with the explosion in drugs, violence and aids. PLUS the whole USSR/cold war deal. I would say for all intents and purposes he did an excellent job with what he has to work with. You're not old enough to remember the berlin wall coming down. You never watched the news or saw how oppressed those people were. You didnt see friends family members show up here and how haggard and disheveled they looked. SO thankful to be the fuck out of there. They used to walk around the neighborhood collecting up dandelions, nuts and berries and shit. Then sit in the front yard eating them. It was fucking crazy. My friends grandma went BALLISTIC when we came home with a stringer of fish and started beating my friend with a stick! Why? Because she though the government was going to come take us away for stealing fish! AS a sad note. 2 years ago a Russian girl was down at the marina/beach when we came with with a few keeper striped bass. She was amazed we were A. Allowed to catch fish and B. The fish weren't "poison" She had to call her father and he came down to see the wonderful fish! We sent them home with a nice big fillet. View Quote And I should give a fuck why? He did great things for other nations/people while ours went to shit, and I should be grateful why again? Its like saying "Look how wonderful their house is", mean while the kitten is on fire in yours. I dont think you can not compared the immensity of the fuck I do not give about others when things in our nation are going to hell. |
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I am not old enough to remember a Republican Presidential candidate winning CA, new machine guns for sale, or a strong American manumitting base either, I guess I should be thankful for Amnesty, MG ban, and him pushing NAFTA, right? And I should give a fuck why? He did great things for other nations/people while ours went to shit, and I should be grateful why again? Its like saying "Look how wonderful their house is", mean while the kitten is on fire in yours. I dont think you can not compared the immensity of the fuck I do not give about others when things in our nation are going to hell. View Quote |
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How old are you? I'm not trying to be an ass, but it will give a perspective of where you are coming from. Things are FAR more complicated than you understand. Things like working with a Democrat-majority Congress. Absolutely nothing is "pure" or straightforward in politics. |
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Well, if you understand the Constitution as well as you claim to, then you know that the Supreme Court was set up to interpret it, not you. So, unless the Supreme Court defines "shall not be infringed" the same way you do, then you lose. Unfortunately, they have not taken up that issue, so far. They've preferred to work around and not address the full meaning of that phrase. Until they do, you're idea of what it means is meaningless. Oh, and I grew up under Eisenhower and all the other presidents thereafter and Reagan was the best president of all of them except for President Trump. So far I rate President Trump above President Reagan. President Reagan was not responsible for that crap machinegun ban the FOPA 1986. He asked the NRA if he should veto it or not and they told him not to. So, there's that. And, I worked for the old I&NS and Reagan was a great president for our agency (President Trump is even better for ICE). He made a deal with congress to allow the democrat's crap Amnesty program in exchange for laws to allow I&NS to investigate, prosecute, and fine or imprison employers who knowingly employ illegal and unauthorized aliens. That created the first time that all employers in the US had to check their prospective employees for documentation to prove that they were authorized to work. The democrats screwed up that with the Employment Eligibility Verification I-9 form that prohibited employers from asking for specific documents to back up their claims on the form. The alien/prospective employee had the option to show their prospective employer whatever documents they wanted to present as long as they were among those listed on the approved documents list. Since you're too young to remember, there was a country called Iran that had the Shah of Iran as their leader. He was a friend of the US and was a dictator that ruled Iran with an iron fist. Unfortunately, the opposition was those aligned with the radical anti-American mullahs. The Shah was deposed and Ayatollah Khomeini took over and his stooges (some college students, some not) attacked the US Embassy and took the embassy personnel captive. They were held captive for over a year while President Jimmy Carter fumbled around for over a year. Ronald Reagan won the presidential election and the next day the Iranian "students" released all of their hostages. President Reagan didn't have a chance to order a rescue operation. Another incident involved Moamar Khadafy, dictator of Libya who had been constantly taking part in funding terrorist attacks and running terrorist training camps in Libya for various Arab terrorist groups. President Reagan ordered a bombing run on one of Khadafy's homes (he wasn't there, but, his daughter was and was killed). Khadafy immediately stopped his aggressively anti-American actions and threats (until he had some of his terrorists put a bomb on a commercial airlines flight that blew up over Lockerbie, England). That was the last terrorist act that Khadafy fronted until his death at the hands of his countrymen, care of Hillary Clinton and her ineptitude. Khadafy was no longer a threat and he was stabilizing Libya from turning into a base for ISIS and Al Qaeda, which is starting to take place now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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First of all, your post basically proves that you are a liberal and/or don't understand what Americanism is or Constitutional Conservatism is. Second, Reagan had his faults like all politicians do. However, he is the only president in the last umpteen years that actually fought to reduce the size of government and institute supply-side economics. His tax cuts were the largest in American history. High tide raises all boats. He did have to deal the liberals at the time and made some concessions as needed. Oh, and I grew up under Eisenhower and all the other presidents thereafter and Reagan was the best president of all of them except for President Trump. So far I rate President Trump above President Reagan. President Reagan was not responsible for that crap machinegun ban the FOPA 1986. He asked the NRA if he should veto it or not and they told him not to. So, there's that. And, I worked for the old I&NS and Reagan was a great president for our agency (President Trump is even better for ICE). He made a deal with congress to allow the democrat's crap Amnesty program in exchange for laws to allow I&NS to investigate, prosecute, and fine or imprison employers who knowingly employ illegal and unauthorized aliens. That created the first time that all employers in the US had to check their prospective employees for documentation to prove that they were authorized to work. The democrats screwed up that with the Employment Eligibility Verification I-9 form that prohibited employers from asking for specific documents to back up their claims on the form. The alien/prospective employee had the option to show their prospective employer whatever documents they wanted to present as long as they were among those listed on the approved documents list. Since you're too young to remember, there was a country called Iran that had the Shah of Iran as their leader. He was a friend of the US and was a dictator that ruled Iran with an iron fist. Unfortunately, the opposition was those aligned with the radical anti-American mullahs. The Shah was deposed and Ayatollah Khomeini took over and his stooges (some college students, some not) attacked the US Embassy and took the embassy personnel captive. They were held captive for over a year while President Jimmy Carter fumbled around for over a year. Ronald Reagan won the presidential election and the next day the Iranian "students" released all of their hostages. President Reagan didn't have a chance to order a rescue operation. Another incident involved Moamar Khadafy, dictator of Libya who had been constantly taking part in funding terrorist attacks and running terrorist training camps in Libya for various Arab terrorist groups. President Reagan ordered a bombing run on one of Khadafy's homes (he wasn't there, but, his daughter was and was killed). Khadafy immediately stopped his aggressively anti-American actions and threats (until he had some of his terrorists put a bomb on a commercial airlines flight that blew up over Lockerbie, England). That was the last terrorist act that Khadafy fronted until his death at the hands of his countrymen, care of Hillary Clinton and her ineptitude. Khadafy was no longer a threat and he was stabilizing Libya from turning into a base for ISIS and Al Qaeda, which is starting to take place now. |
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I am not old enough to remember a Republican Presidential candidate winning CA, new machine guns for sale, or a strong American manumitting base either, I guess I should be thankful for Amnesty, MG ban, and him pushing NAFTA, right? And I should give a fuck why? He did great things for other nations/people while ours went to shit, and I should be grateful why again? Its like saying "Look how wonderful their house is", mean while the kitten is on fire in yours. I dont think you can not compared the immensity of the fuck I do not give about others when things in our nation are going to hell. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You were an infant when he left office I'm 11 years older than you and remember Reagan being a pretty well loved president. Coming out of the shit show that was the 70's , dealing with the explosion in drugs, violence and aids. PLUS the whole USSR/cold war deal. I would say for all intents and purposes he did an excellent job with what he has to work with. You're not old enough to remember the berlin wall coming down. You never watched the news or saw how oppressed those people were. You didnt see friends family members show up here and how haggard and disheveled they looked. SO thankful to be the fuck out of there. They used to walk around the neighborhood collecting up dandelions, nuts and berries and shit. Then sit in the front yard eating them. It was fucking crazy. My friends grandma went BALLISTIC when we came home with a stringer of fish and started beating my friend with a stick! Why? Because she though the government was going to come take us away for stealing fish! AS a sad note. 2 years ago a Russian girl was down at the marina/beach when we came with with a few keeper striped bass. She was amazed we were A. Allowed to catch fish and B. The fish weren't "poison" She had to call her father and he came down to see the wonderful fish! We sent them home with a nice big fillet. And I should give a fuck why? He did great things for other nations/people while ours went to shit, and I should be grateful why again? Its like saying "Look how wonderful their house is", mean while the kitten is on fire in yours. I dont think you can not compared the immensity of the fuck I do not give about others when things in our nation are going to hell. |
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OP not conservative. View Quote Banning MGs, Advocating for AWBs, Open borders, mass immigration, amnesty, giving way entire states to the enemy, Not sure what I should be one rather then a nationalist/restorationist. |
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The Mulford Act was a 1967 California bill that repealed a law allowing public carrying of loaded firearms. Named after Republican assemblyman Don Mulford, the bill was crafted in response to members of the Black Panther Party who were conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods while they were conducting what would later be termed copwatching. They garnered national attention after the Black Panthers marched bearing arms upon the California State Capitol to protest the bill.
Both Republicans and Democrats in California supported increased gun control. Governor Ronald Reagan was present when the protesters arrived and later commented that he saw "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons" and that guns were a "ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will." In a later press conference, Reagan added that the Mulford Act "would work no hardship on the honest citizen." The bill was signed by Reagan and became California penal code 25850 and 171c. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act |
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Not an argument. View Quote You can't take any president in a vacuum. You take their predecessors, the congress and SCOTUS they have to work with, and the state of international affairs at the time. |
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The 1986 Gun law was a compromise to repealing the Gun control ACT of 1968.
Our 2nd Amendment rights had already been infringed. The only way to get some of those rights back was to offer something else up in exchange. Machine guns were lost in the trade. Any time the government takes something, you will never get it back in full, they will get something in return. That's the lesson here. Reagan was a fine president from the history I read and I'm two years older than you, OP. |
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Why I'm for the Brady Bill By Ronald Reagan
The Assault Weapon Ban Would Have Never Passed If It Wasn't For Ronald Reagan Two members said Reagan changed their votes. The bill passed by two votes. |
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May 3, 1994
To Members of the U.S. House of Representatives: We are writing to urge your support for a ban on the domestic manufacture of military-style assault weapons. This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety. Although assualt weapons account for less than 1% of the guns in circulation, they account for nearly 10% of the guns traced to crime. Every major law enforcement organization in America and dozens of leading labor, medical, religious, civil rights and civic groups support such a ban. Most importantly, poll after poll shows that the American public overwhelmingly support a ban on assault weapons. A 1993 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll found that 77% of Americans support a ban on the manufacture, sale, and possession of semi-automatic assault guns, such as the AK-47. The 1989 import ban resulted in an impressive 40% drop in imported assault weapons traced to crime between 1989 and 1991, but the killing continues. Last year, a killer armed with two TEC9s killed eight people at a San Francisco law firm and wounded several others. During the past five years, more than 40 law enforcement officers have been killed or wounded in the line of duty by an assault weapon. While we recognize that assault weapon legislation will not stop all assault weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals. We urge you to listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of these weapons. Sincerely, Gerald R. Ford Jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan |
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Why I'm for the Brady Bill By Ronald Reagan The Assault Weapon Ban Would Have Never Passed If It Wasn't For Ronald Reagan Two members said Reagan changed their votes. The bill passed by two votes. https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2013/05/reaganak47.jpg? View Quote More like Reagan solidified their votes. They used Reagan as an excuse to give up our rights. |
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Reagan fucked up on machine guns and import bans, no question. Were he alive today with a chance to do it over, I have no doubt he would realize that too. He did give us FOPA though (for as little used as it is). View Quote FOPA saved our ass when Willie was POTUS. The MG ban was something they could do at any time. It wasn't defendable ground. Hence why they argued MGs in Heller (note: that was the anti side bringing MGs up). |
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May 3, 1994 To Members of the U.S. House of Representatives: We are writing to urge your support for a ban on the domestic manufacture of military-style assault weapons. This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety. Although assualt weapons account for less than 1% of the guns in circulation, they account for nearly 10% of the guns traced to crime. Every major law enforcement organization in America and dozens of leading labor, medical, religious, civil rights and civic groups support such a ban. Most importantly, poll after poll shows that the American public overwhelmingly support a ban on assault weapons. A 1993 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll found that 77% of Americans support a ban on the manufacture, sale, and possession of semi-automatic assault guns, such as the AK-47. The 1989 import ban resulted in an impressive 40% drop in imported assault weapons traced to crime between 1989 and 1991, but the killing continues. Last year, a killer armed with two TEC9s killed eight people at a San Francisco law firm and wounded several others. During the past five years, more than 40 law enforcement officers have been killed or wounded in the line of duty by an assault weapon. While we recognize that assault weapon legislation will not stop all assault weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals. We urge you to listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of these weapons. Sincerely, Gerald R. Ford Jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan View Quote All your posts stink of single-issue dipshitism. |
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Yeah, he wasn’t the worst president ever, but: -He didn’t cause the collapse of the USSR -He opened the door to trade dependency with the Chinese Communists -He didn’t do shit about jihadists killing almost 300 of our service members -He conspired with the Fudd parts of the NRA to infringe on our Second Amendment rights and supported an AWB after leaving office -He didn’t intervene to stop thatcher from handing over Hong Kong to the Commies without so much as a polite word against it So why do conservatives love him so much? Why do liberals hate him so much? View Quote -He signed a bill allowing abortion while governor. -He wasn't quite the champion of conservatism some make him out to be. Liberals hate him because he was a Republican. |
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FY Deficit Debt Increase Deficit /GDP Events Affecting Deficit 1981 $79 $90 2.4% Reagan tax cut. 1982 $128 $144 3.8% Reagan's 1st budget. 1983 $208 $235 5.6% Jobless rate 10.8%. 1984 $185 $195 4.5% Increased defense spending. 1985 $212 $256 4.8% 1986 $221 $297 4.8% Tax cut. 1987 $150 $225 3.1% Market crash 1988 $155 $252 2.9% Fed raised rates. 2016 $585 $1,423 3.1% Defense = $767.3 b. http://staging.snopes.com/app/uploads/2012/01/debtchart.jpg View Quote |
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-He banned open carry in California during his time as governor. -He signed a bill allowing abortion while governor. -He wasn't quite the champion of conservatism some make him out to be. Liberals hate him because he was a Republican. View Quote |
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FY Deficit Debt Increase Deficit /GDP Events Affecting Deficit 1981 $79 $90 2.4% Reagan tax cut. 1982 $128 $144 3.8% Reagan's 1st budget. 1983 $208 $235 5.6% Jobless rate 10.8%. 1984 $185 $195 4.5% Increased defense spending. 1985 $212 $256 4.8% 1986 $221 $297 4.8% Tax cut. 1987 $150 $225 3.1% Market crash 1988 $155 $252 2.9% Fed raised rates. 2016 $585 $1,423 3.1% Defense = $767.3 b. http://staging.snopes.com/app/uploads/2012/01/debtchart.jpg View Quote Who controlled the House under Reagan? Who controlled the House the last 6 years of obama? Yeah,I know the signed off on it,but....... Reagan was a decent man,but way too many put him on a pedestal he doesn't deserve to be on. |
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FY Deficit Debt Increase Deficit /GDP Events Affecting Deficit 1981 $79 $90 2.4% Reagan tax cut. 1982 $128 $144 3.8% Reagan's 1st budget. 1983 $208 $235 5.6% Jobless rate 10.8%. 1984 $185 $195 4.5% Increased defense spending. 1985 $212 $256 4.8% 1986 $221 $297 4.8% Tax cut. 1987 $150 $225 3.1% Market crash 1988 $155 $252 2.9% Fed raised rates. 2016 $585 $1,423 3.1% Defense = $767.3 b. http://staging.snopes.com/app/uploads/2012/01/debtchart.jpg View Quote |
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I was happy he was my C-in-C when I was in the service. I felt sorry for those who served under Clinton and later Obama.
His strategy DID win the Cold War. We outspent their asses. I could tell you more, but then I'd have to kill everyone on the Internet who read my post. |
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FY Deficit Debt Increase Deficit /GDP Events Affecting Deficit 1981 $79 $90 2.4% Reagan tax cut. 1982 $128 $144 3.8% Reagan's 1st budget. 1983 $208 $235 5.6% Jobless rate 10.8%. 1984 $185 $195 4.5% Increased defense spending. 1985 $212 $256 4.8% 1986 $221 $297 4.8% Tax cut. 1987 $150 $225 3.1% Market crash 1988 $155 $252 2.9% Fed raised rates. 2016 $585 $1,423 3.1% Defense = $767.3 b. http://staging.snopes.com/app/uploads/2012/01/debtchart.jpg View Quote If I have a penny of debt and borrow two, I have done little damage to an economy, if I have 9 trillion dollars of debt and borrow another 10 or 11, I've done a lot of damage. With that 600 billion, we actually got something substantive out of it, with that last 10 trillion or so, we didn't see shit. [notice how that graph was from 2011?] |
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-He banned open carry in California during his time as governor. -He signed a bill allowing abortion while governor. -He wasn't quite the champion of conservatism some make him out to be. Liberals hate him because he was a Republican. But compared to Coolidge, Reagan was a moderate. Coolidge set the bar to an untouchable point. |
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I was happy he was my C-in-C when I was in the service. I felt sorry for those who served under Clinton and later Obama. His strategy DID win the Cold War. We outspent their asses. I could tell you more, but then I'd have to kill everyone on the Internet who read my post. View Quote |
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FOPA was of little use? FOPA saved our ass when Willie was POTUS. The MG ban was something they could do at any time. It wasn't defendable ground. Hence why they argued MGs in Heller (note: that was the anti side bringing MGs up). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Reagan fucked up on machine guns and import bans, no question. Were he alive today with a chance to do it over, I have no doubt he would realize that too. He did give us FOPA though (for as little used as it is). FOPA saved our ass when Willie was POTUS. The MG ban was something they could do at any time. It wasn't defendable ground. Hence why they argued MGs in Heller (note: that was the anti side bringing MGs up). What I said was little USED. IOW, we don't use it ENOUGH to shut down places like NY, NJ, MA, etc., that fuck with law abiding gun owners transporting firearms. It could be of ENORMOUS use if we use it to it's full potential, yet we don't. |
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Reread what I said. What I said was little USED. IOW, we don't use it ENOUGH to shut down places like NY, NJ, MA, etc., that fuck with law abiding gun owners transporting firearms. It could be of ENORMOUS use if we use it to it's full potential, yet we don't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Reagan fucked up on machine guns and import bans, no question. Were he alive today with a chance to do it over, I have no doubt he would realize that too. He did give us FOPA though (for as little used as it is). FOPA saved our ass when Willie was POTUS. The MG ban was something they could do at any time. It wasn't defendable ground. Hence why they argued MGs in Heller (note: that was the anti side bringing MGs up). What I said was little USED. IOW, we don't use it ENOUGH to shut down places like NY, NJ, MA, etc., that fuck with law abiding gun owners transporting firearms. It could be of ENORMOUS use if we use it to it's full potential, yet we don't. I don't see it happening........ |
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Reread what I said. What I said was little USED. IOW, we don't use it ENOUGH to shut down places like NY, NJ, MA, etc., that fuck with law abiding gun owners transporting firearms. It could be of ENORMOUS use if we use it to it's full potential, yet we don't. View Quote CA. HI and others record gun purchases in a database, for example, which the feds can't do. |
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That last guy spent more then all the rest combined. If I have a penny of debt and borrow two, I have done little damage to an economy, if I have 9 trillion dollars of debt and borrow another 10 or 11, I've done a lot of damage. With that 600 billion, we actually got something substantive out of it, with that last 10 trillion or so, we didn't see shit. [notice how that graph was from 2011?] View Quote |
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FY Deficit Debt Increase Deficit /GDP Events Affecting Deficit 1981 $79 $90 2.4% Reagan tax cut. 1982 $128 $144 3.8% Reagan's 1st budget. 1983 $208 $235 5.6% Jobless rate 10.8%. 1984 $185 $195 4.5% Increased defense spending. 1985 $212 $256 4.8% 1986 $221 $297 4.8% Tax cut. 1987 $150 $225 3.1% Market crash 1988 $155 $252 2.9% Fed raised rates. 2016 $585 $1,423 3.1% Defense = $767.3 b. http://staging.snopes.com/app/uploads/2012/01/debtchart.jpg View Quote Any POTUS who increases US national debt by any percentage at this point is an absolute asshole. |
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Spending originates in the House. Who controlled the House under Reagan? Who controlled the House the last 6 years of obama? Yeah,I know the signed off on it,but....... Reagan was a decent man,but way too many put him on a pedestal he doesn't deserve to be on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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FY Deficit Debt Increase Deficit /GDP Events Affecting Deficit 1981 $79 $90 2.4% Reagan tax cut. 1982 $128 $144 3.8% Reagan's 1st budget. 1983 $208 $235 5.6% Jobless rate 10.8%. 1984 $185 $195 4.5% Increased defense spending. 1985 $212 $256 4.8% 1986 $221 $297 4.8% Tax cut. 1987 $150 $225 3.1% Market crash 1988 $155 $252 2.9% Fed raised rates. 2016 $585 $1,423 3.1% Defense = $767.3 b. http://staging.snopes.com/app/uploads/2012/01/debtchart.jpg Who controlled the House under Reagan? Who controlled the House the last 6 years of obama? Yeah,I know the signed off on it,but....... Reagan was a decent man,but way too many put him on a pedestal he doesn't deserve to be on. |
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And there it is. These young people are incapable of understanding, because they lack the perspective gained from having to endure the Carter years. They've never had to wait three hours in line to receive their gasoline ration, and only on alternate days based on their license plate. My daughter has never had to endure that kind of hardship, and I'm grateful for that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yeah, he wasn’t the worst president ever, but So why do conservatives love him so much? Why do liberals hate him so much? He put an end to the Carter Presidency and the pain the Nation suffered under it. In context, think about the health care cost increases nowadays but the govt basically says FU, pay it, no help from us financially, deal with it and wear a sweater, it's the way it is, oh, BTW, we aren't letting you free ride on someone else's dime under that regular rates. These young people are incapable of understanding, because they lack the perspective gained from having to endure the Carter years. They've never had to wait three hours in line to receive their gasoline ration, and only on alternate days based on their license plate. My daughter has never had to endure that kind of hardship, and I'm grateful for that. It is very disheartening to me to witness the corruption of history and the utter inversion of the lessons of the post WWII era. OP's clueless drivel is only the latest in a long line of successively more detached confabulations. I really think it has gotten worse since ~y2k, with the ubiquity of internet echo chambers. I will be happy when I die, because I'll know I won't have to witness OP's army's march over the grave of history any longer. Let him live in his brave new world. |
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Which is the entire point of the OP. He was shit loads better than Carter or Clinton or the Bushes, sure, but he really doesn’t deserve the almost saintly devotion that he obviously receives. View Quote |
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