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Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:49:22 PM EDT
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The're going to make us be nice to the penguin, aren't they
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:49:41 PM EDT
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Taging for more information
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:50:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:50:20 PM EDT
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Please don't do to arfcom what happened to the hide.....never liked that place to begin with, but after it changed hands it went downhill quick.
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This.  I'm not optimistic.

When the day comes that the Brownells believe the chatter here negatively reflects upon their business, they will drop the hammer on Arfcom.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:50:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:50:35 PM EDT
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Hopefully one of the changes is making our own lobbying group,  I have money burning a hole in my pocket to help the cause but there is nothing out there I trust any longer .... from an NRA lifer with regrets
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:51:15 PM EDT
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Ok... Just being cautiously optimistic.
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Interesting. How does Brownells feel about direct competitors advertising on a platform they now own?
Perfectly fine. There are no changes planned to anything as it exists. We have projects in the works already for new tools for companies and a brand spanking new EE with all the trimmings.
Ok... Just being cautiously optimistic.
Yeah I don't see this ending well unfortunately.  I'll be pleased to be proven wrong
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:52:16 PM EDT
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I don't think final authority is the right way to look at it, but definitely a big voice on any major changes or decisions. The best way to look at it is that we are going to be working together as a team.

There will always be fear of the unknown, but we are extremely excited about this opportunity and definitely not scared for the site's future.
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Do you or any of the Avila's have final authority on changes to this forum?
I don't think final authority is the right way to look at it, but definitely a big voice on any major changes or decisions. The best way to look at it is that we are going to be working together as a team.

There will always be fear of the unknown, but we are extremely excited about this opportunity and definitely not scared for the site's future.
but you got a backup site ready to go if you get shouldered out, right? Trust but verify. Also save me my username, please, I don't care about the post count.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:53:39 PM EDT
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I can’t think of any forum I’ve been a part of that has improved with a change of ownership.
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Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:53:46 PM EDT
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Welp, guess that's it.

It's been fun, where do we meet after this?
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:54:29 PM EDT
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but you got a backup site ready to go if you get shouldered out, right? Trust but verify. Also save me my username, please, I don't care about the post count.
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I'm just gonna go ahead and assume a non-compete clause is in there someplace.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:54:43 PM EDT
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Can we sell off lots of our post count?
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:55:16 PM EDT
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Seriously folks. There is nothing scary in the plans. We are still here and focused on things we have been working on and now get to expand and grow with new resources. Unfortunately you are stuck with me and the staff for a while longer. You are also stuck with this site how it is (no major rewrite coming for now) for a while longer. Although I do want to continue to improve things as we always have. (Ok so some change is coming, but all from me so you can continue to focus the hate on my update threads!)
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that seems to imply you three owners are not sticking around for long.  Are you planning on turning the site over to Brownells during a transition period, and then departing?
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:55:19 PM EDT
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ARFCOM lifers memebers should automatically have Brownells Edge then
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And a 30% discount at Brownells.  
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:55:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:56:21 PM EDT
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This.  I'm not optimistic.

When the day comes that the Brownells believe the chatter here negatively reflects upon their business, they will drop the hammer on Arfcom.
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From what I've seen with other forums that have gone down the same road....
I believe this is entirely possible. I hope I'm wrong.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:56:38 PM EDT
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so do we get a cut Brownell's discount based upon post count?

asking for a friend.
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Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:56:52 PM EDT
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A real American Firearms Owners Organization rises from the NRAshes?

As the left is celebrating and dancing on what they believe is the grave of the 2nd Amendment

Out of the ocean of American gun owners arises the Godzilla of gun rights

I trust in the patriotism of the site founders.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:57:06 PM EDT
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The industry forums will have some change.  I can see some of them not wanting to shell out for industry partner or site sponsorship status when their money is going to the competition.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:58:21 PM EDT
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To Pete and Frank Brownell

Full court press on eliminating the anti 2nd amendment laws that have been enacted in this country since the NFA.

Not a request Sirs.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:58:30 PM EDT
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As long as the BOTD rule don't change. Lol.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 1:59:13 PM EDT
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that seems to imply you three owners are not sticking around for long.  Are you planning on turning the site over to Brownells during a transition period, and then departing?
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Seriously folks. There is nothing scary in the plans. We are still here and focused on things we have been working on and now get to expand and grow with new resources. Unfortunately you are stuck with me and the staff for a while longer. You are also stuck with this site how it is (no major rewrite coming for now) for a while longer. Although I do want to continue to improve things as we always have. (Ok so some change is coming, but all from me so you can continue to focus the hate on my update threads!)
that seems to imply you three owners are not sticking around for long.  Are you planning on turning the site over to Brownells during a transition period, and then departing?
Seriously. Lots of vague answers, no actual concrete details. I see dodging.

NKVD/Stasi level moderation and content restrictions incoming in 3... 2... 1...
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:01:19 PM EDT
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This.  I'm not optimistic.

When the day comes that the Brownells believe the chatter here negatively reflects upon their business, they will drop the hammer on Arfcom.
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If you look at Brownells lobbying, for example, it's solid conservative and not insignificant in $. While some is certainly spent to protect the business, I'm hopeful that there is more heart to it.

Someone mentioned the Fatwallet debacle. I was a member there for years, and when they got bought by Ebates, got the usual "this will enable us to be better" spiel. Ebates and Rakuten (who bought and wrecked Buy.com) destroyed Fatwallet. It was all about money and eliminating competition. Like Aldi's buying Bottom Dollar, GM buying SAAB and countless other M&A trainwrecks. I was personally involved (as an employee and a consultant) for two companies that were acquired. The new owners either closed or milked them dry. There were no "causes" involved in any of these. Straight Wall Street rape, pillage and split.

Absent the recent NRA implosion, I would be highly suspicious of this acquisition. Because of the NRA implosion, I'm hopeful something will fill the gap.

Whoever takes over running the site (eventually) better have a very thorough understanding of what makes this place tick. Any outsider unfamiliar with what we do and why will destroy it.

Until proven otherwise, I'm in the optimistic category for this.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:03:16 PM EDT
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Attachment Attached File


I'm going to be watching.
GB let me know if you need a hand.

I lift my glass with "Eric the Hun!"  in a toast the the new Chapter in ARFCOM history.
May God bless us all.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:04:01 PM EDT
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On this we are in agreement
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I'm going to have to disagree right on back, and I'm honestly flabbergasted that you used THR as an example of somebody doing it better. It runs XenForo, for Christ's sake.
On this we are in agreement
But where does Brownells stand on beans in chili?
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:04:04 PM EDT
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Welp, guess that's it.

It's been fun, where do we meet after this?
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Funny timing for this. I just started putting together a Weebly blog for my content yesterday.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:04:49 PM EDT
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As long as the BOTD rule don't change. Lol.
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That will be first to go.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:05:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:05:49 PM EDT
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After the answers received here, I can only wish the Avila's the best. Any further questions really need to be directed at the Brownell's if we want answers. Are they going to get official accounts?
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:06:02 PM EDT
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Hope no one has ever said anything negative about brownells...Also what does this mean for site partners?
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:07:02 PM EDT
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Yeah the more I read responses from GoatBoy the less optimistic I felt.  Says he will still be doing the day to day stuff just like he always has been....ok then why is Brownells involved now?  They most likely would not dump money (millions?) into something they didn't have complete and absolute control over.  So while everyone may be playing nice for now, it's just that.....for now.  They now have a huge liability that is a forum attached to their name.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:07:07 PM EDT
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I hope the search function will work better than the current one, but if Brownell’s has anything to do with it, it will suck as badly as theirs does.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:07:37 PM EDT
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That will be first to go.
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Yep...
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:08:15 PM EDT
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In before Freedom group buys Brownells and everything goes to hell.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:08:30 PM EDT
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If you let me know what issue you are having with it, I can hopefully show you the answer. The search is complex, not necessarily the easiest thing to use, but it does have a lot of power behind it.
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In on one.

Any chance we can finally get an improved forum search tool?
If you let me know what issue you are having with it, I can hopefully show you the answer. The search is complex, not necessarily the easiest thing to use, but it does have a lot of power behind it.
Honestly the biggest hurdle to the search working well is how many of the titles are creatively named. Not sure how you could fix that without searching the posts as well and adding lots of complexity.

I wouldn't mind a change that matches words a little better instead of having to use an asterisk. Trump, Trumps, Trump's for example should all show up in search results automatically even if I only search Trump.

IMHO. But it definitely isn't as big a deal as people make it out to be.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:10:06 PM EDT
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Snipershide part 2?
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JFC I hope not.  What a debacle that was.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:10:47 PM EDT
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Is a Firearms friendly version of You Tube in the future?
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:11:07 PM EDT
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If this means your upgrading the Yugo, can I have it?  
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:11:15 PM EDT
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Welp, guess that's it.

It's been fun, where do we meet after this?
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Pornhub comments has always been the backup plan AFAIK.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:11:46 PM EDT
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change is scary, lets hope everything stays the same.

Im in
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This.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:12:21 PM EDT
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If this means your upgrading the Yugo, can I have it?  
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They're gonna do an LS swap, not replace it entirely.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:12:40 PM EDT
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Fingers crossed the change goes well. I think anyone who has frequented other forums that have changed hands, has seen at least 1 or 2 of them suffer badly from it.

Here's to hoping that's not the case here.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:12:50 PM EDT
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I don't think final authority is the right way to look at it, but definitely a big voice on any major changes or decisions. The best way to look at it is that we are going to be working together as a team.

There will always be fear of the unknown, but we are extremely excited about this opportunity and definitely not scared for the site's future.
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@goatboy

Do you or any of the Avila's have final authority on changes to this forum?
I don't think final authority is the right way to look at it, but definitely a big voice on any major changes or decisions. The best way to look at it is that we are going to be working together as a team.

There will always be fear of the unknown, but we are extremely excited about this opportunity and definitely not scared for the site's future.
Yep, <18 months Arf will not be what it is right now1.

I'll bet a Gold membership, or membership of equal value2.

1We can haggle and amend the phrase "will not be what it is right now.", to include specifics.

2Value cited is today's, 6/3/19, cost of a Gold membership. Which is $60(see capture below, any changes to picture, invalidates offer/bet). Bet to be called, no earlier then 12/3/2020.

Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:12:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:13:35 PM EDT
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Congrats!

Looking forward to the coming years and what changes (for the better) may come.
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I hear team membership will increase to $1500/yr to weed out the riff-raff, and postcounts will all be reset to 0 to give everyone a level playing field. And the COC will be amended to include mandatory time outs for anyone using the word "their" for "there", or saying "I could care less". Oh, and no more 24/365 threads or references to coal, in any size.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:14:23 PM EDT
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Can we now use a coupon code without anything Glock invalidating the code?
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:15:10 PM EDT
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CoC addition: No eeyore pics in avatars, because they make me sad.

Seriously folks. There is nothing scary in the plans. We are still here and focused on things we have been working on and now get to expand and grow with new resources. Unfortunately you are stuck with me and the staff for a while longer. You are also stuck with this site how it is (no major rewrite coming for now) for a while longer. Although I do want to continue to improve things as we always have. (Ok so some change is coming, but all from me so you can continue to focus the hate on my update threads!)
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Heard the same thing on two of the other gunboards that I frequent and they quickly went downhill. Hopefully I'm wrong here
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:15:12 PM EDT
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I hear team membership will increase to $1500/yr to weed out the riff-raff...
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Yuck.  So it was actually bought out by Photobucket?
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:15:32 PM EDT
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A real American Firearms Owners Organization rises from the NRAshes?

As the left is celebrating and dancing on what they believe is the grave of the 2nd Amendment

Out of the ocean of American gun owners arises the Godzilla of gun rights

I trust in the patriotism of the site founders.
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"I trust in the patriotism of the site founders."

Yeah, no one is questioning that.
Link Posted: 6/3/2019 2:15:44 PM EDT
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Yuck.  So it was actually bought out by Photobucket?
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Lol
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