[ARCHIVED THREAD] - IRS uses BS "death threat" excuse to avoid public testimony on TEA Party (Page 2 of 3)
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Look... the whole thing is bullsh*t. Despite their pleas about the "danger" they're in, nothing is going to happen to them. The Tea Party crowd is probably the most responsible, traditional, family-values, law-abiding group of Americans you could ever find. Regardless of what Lerner, et al might claim, The Tea Party is not going to form up a posse and burn them out of their houses, or assassinate anybody. |
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This is an obvious excuse, but they should be in fear for their lives. They used the power of one of the most feared branches of the federal government to interfere with a national election. They should be strung up as a lesson to others. The George Zimmermans and the Darren Wilsons of the world? Yeah... they need to watch their backs for pretty much the rest of their lives (some whackadoodle already took a shot at Zimmerman). These Leftist bureaucrats are afraid of even imaginary accountability. |
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Bullshitters IRS execs: Our lives at risk in tea party case A judge has ruled that there was a 'strong showing' the IRS had a bias against Tea Party groups. USA TODAY Details about tea party bias claims against the IRS could remain secret because current and former agency officials say their lives are in danger if they publicly testify about the case. Lois Lerner and Holly Paz both have argued in recent court filings that the threat to their lives outweighs the public's right to hear their testimony about how IRS employees in Cincinnati and Washington D.C. handled applications for tax-exempt status from tea party groups. They recently filed evidence to support their claim under seal in U.S. District Court in Cincinnati. Though that evidence has not been made public, court records indicate it relates to death threats and other harassment the women say they endured after their names were connected to the bias claims against the IRS several years ago. Amendment VI - In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. |
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So, how does the Goverment deal with all the criminals out there when someone wants to kill them for what they have done? Surely the gov isn't bypassing prosecution because of some idle threats on all them? [color=#ff0000]What about when the DA gets threatened in a criminal case? Do they refuse to prosecute those cases too? Sometimes. Sometimes politics, sometimes fear, sometimes work load (too many cases at one time.) |
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Secret evidence in secret cases ... and the courts claim that they are the institution which protects the rights and freedom of the American people.  |
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I will just leave this here, and not wanting to testify out of fear tells me that they believe people will be more mad at them after they testify than before. Amendment VI - In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. Quoted:
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Bullshitters IRS execs: Our lives at risk in tea party case A judge has ruled that there was a 'strong showing' the IRS had a bias against Tea Party groups. USA TODAY Details about tea party bias claims against the IRS could remain secret because current and former agency officials say their lives are in danger if they publicly testify about the case. Lois Lerner and Holly Paz both have argued in recent court filings that the threat to their lives outweighs the public's right to hear their testimony about how IRS employees in Cincinnati and Washington D.C. handled applications for tax-exempt status from tea party groups. They recently filed evidence to support their claim under seal in U.S. District Court in Cincinnati. Though that evidence has not been made public, court records indicate it relates to death threats and other harassment the women say they endured after their names were connected to the bias claims against the IRS several years ago. Amendment VI - In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. |
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One would have to think that those that want them to testify are not the ones making the threats(the Tea Party), so one has to think the threats are coming from those that do not want them to testify(other government employees). One would also think that if it requires a few dead bodies to preserve the country, lets get on with it. Justice takes many forms and when the justice system is part of the problem it may be necessary for justice to come from other directions. Without true justice for government crimes we have tyranny.
Edit; If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. 
Another edit; There was never suppose to be another republican president and they would never have to deal with the possibilities of going to prison for there crimes and certainly would never have to face the possibilities of being charged with treason and capital punishment. |
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This sounds like a job for...
Attached File Maybe if their phone numbers, addresses, SSNs, car makes, license plates are posted all over the webz and no one gives a shit they'll realize just how inconsequential they are in the scheme of things. Maybe their ego's will be so deflated they'll an hero themselves... 
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One would have to think that those that want them to testify are not the ones making the threats(the Tea Party), so one has to think the threats are coming from those that do not want them to testify(other government employees). One would also think that if it requires a few dead bodies to preserve the country, lets get on with it. Justice takes many forms and when the justice system is part of the problem it may be necessary for justice to come from other directions. Without true justice for government crimes we have tyranny. Edit; If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Another edit; There was never suppose to be another republican president and they would never have to deal with the possibilities of going to prison for there crimes and certainly would never have to face the possibilities of being charged with treason and capital punishment. |
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It wouldn't surprise me if a few unhinged whackos WERE out there who weren't afraid to make some sort of threats. We've all seen the sovereign citizen people spout off in traffic stop and court appearance videos. How's it so hard to believe that these sorts of people don't spout their nonsense towards the IRS as well, especially if there is a high profile case being discussed in the media. They should be receiving death threats. If I'm honest they should be tried and if found guilty hung on the steps of the courthouse as a warning to all other gov. employees. It's time that Americans start caring more about rights, laws, and doing the right thing instead of feelings. Want to MAGA? Start holding people accountable. To hard to hold people accountable? Get rid of the entire giant book full of laws that no one knows about. |
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This is really the only explanation that makes sense. Death threats are made to STOP people from testifying, not the other way around. Quoted:
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One would have to think that those that want them to testify are not the ones making the threats(the Tea Party), so one has to think the threats are coming from those that do not want them to testify(other government employees). One would also think that if it requires a few dead bodies to preserve the country, lets get on with it. Justice takes many forms and when the justice system is part of the problem it may be necessary for justice to come from other directions. Without true justice for government crimes we have tyranny. Edit; If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Another edit; There was never suppose to be another republican president and they would never have to deal with the possibilities of going to prison for there crimes and certainly would never have to face the possibilities of being charged with treason and capital punishment. |
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Just a Thought, But, if whatever you are considering doing will inspire credible death threats against you if you are forced to testify to it, you should weigh carefully your actions before proceeding... Again, just a thought. |
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Ha, yes. Pretty obvious that they expected to be protected. Quoted:
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Just a Thought, But, if whatever you are considering doing will inspire credible death threats against you if you are forced to testify to it, you should weigh carefully your actions before proceeding... Again, just a thought. |
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I wouldn't doubt it. Look... the whole thing is bullsh*t. Despite their pleas about the "danger" they're in, nothing is going to happen to them. The Tea Party crowd is probably the most responsible, traditional, family-values, law-abiding group of Americans you could ever find. Regardless of what Lerner, et al might claim, The Tea Party is not going to form up a posse and burn them out of their houses, or assassinate anybody. Hell... in the last 4-5 years, Lois Lerner hasn't had so much as a key run down the side of her car, or a rock through her window. The worse she's experienced was probably somebody making a mean comment to her in the grocery store. Quoted:
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Probably threatened themselves Look... the whole thing is bullsh*t. Despite their pleas about the "danger" they're in, nothing is going to happen to them. The Tea Party crowd is probably the most responsible, traditional, family-values, law-abiding group of Americans you could ever find. Regardless of what Lerner, et al might claim, The Tea Party is not going to form up a posse and burn them out of their houses, or assassinate anybody. Hell... in the last 4-5 years, Lois Lerner hasn't had so much as a key run down the side of her car, or a rock through her window. The worse she's experienced was probably somebody making a mean comment to her in the grocery store. |
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People like her don't go to the grocery store. They have little people like us do it for them. Quoted:
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Probably threatened themselves Look... the whole thing is bullsh*t. Despite their pleas about the "danger" they're in, nothing is going to happen to them. The Tea Party crowd is probably the most responsible, traditional, family-values, law-abiding group of Americans you could ever find. Regardless of what Lerner, et al might claim, The Tea Party is not going to form up a posse and burn them out of their houses, or assassinate anybody. Hell... in the last 4-5 years, Lois Lerner hasn't had so much as a key run down the side of her car, or a rock through her window. The worse she's experienced was probably somebody making a mean comment to her in the grocery store.
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One would have to think that those that want them to testify are not the ones making the threats(the Tea Party), so one has to think the threats are coming from those that do not want them to testify(other government employees). One would also think that if it requires a few dead bodies to preserve the country, lets get on with it. Justice takes many forms and when the justice system is part of the problem it may be necessary for justice to come from other directions. Without true justice for government crimes we have tyranny. Edit; If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Another edit; There was never suppose to be another republican president and they would never have to deal with the possibilities of going to prison for there crimes and certainly would never have to face the possibilities of being charged with treason and capital punishment. |
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this right here, they thought they had enough fraud baked into the system that it wouldn't be an issue. they over looked how terrible a candidate FHRC is and existed inside their own echo chamber Quoted:
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One would have to think that those that want them to testify are not the ones making the threats(the Tea Party), so one has to think the threats are coming from those that do not want them to testify(other government employees). One would also think that if it requires a few dead bodies to preserve the country, lets get on with it. Justice takes many forms and when the justice system is part of the problem it may be necessary for justice to come from other directions. Without true justice for government crimes we have tyranny. Edit; If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Another edit; There was never suppose to be another republican president and they would never have to deal with the possibilities of going to prison for there crimes and certainly would never have to face the possibilities of being charged with treason and capital punishment. |
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This sounds like a job for... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/770/4chan-208898.JPG Maybe if their phone numbers, addresses, SSNs, car makes, license plates are posted all over the webz and no one gives a shit they'll realize just how inconsequential they are in the scheme of things. Maybe their ego's will be so deflated they'll an hero themselves... If you remember, some reporter chased down that cunt Loris Lerner while she was walking her dog and he was uniformly berated both on the left and right for daring to put her to task. Nobody in DC wants these shitbags to suffer, because doing so would mean the government loses a tool for intimidating the unwashed masses. Right now the IRS is one the most terrifying agencies in the country, they can destroy your life on false charges and you have to pay them a ransom to put it back together. Hell, people are so afraid of them they let a bunch of Indian and Paki motherfuckers rob them blind by forcing them to buy gift cards on iTunes. What government agency is so powerful the mere mention of them makes you do something so irrational like a run out to the pharmacy and buy $3000 of gift cards? The left and right doesn't want to lose such a powerful tool of fear. |
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Wear this and hope someone doesn't turn your head into a canoe.....but that would be illegal, so you should be safe. https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpull01-securityprousa.netdna-ssl.com%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fcategory%2Ftactical-vests.jpg&sp=8e3eb507f3716b8b698678b727d9f578 |
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It wouldn't surprise me if a few unhinged whackos WERE out there who weren't afraid to make some sort of threats. We've all seen the sovereign citizen people spout off in traffic stop and court appearance videos. How's it so hard to believe that these sorts of people don't spout their nonsense towards the IRS as well, especially if there is a high profile case being discussed in the media. 2. Who is even aware this trial was going on? |
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they're not that hard to find. If you remember, some reporter chased down that cunt Loris Lerner while she was walking her dog and he was uniformly berated both on the left and right for daring to put her to task. Nobody in DC wants these shitbags to suffer, because doing so would mean the government loses a tool for intimidating the unwashed masses. Right now the IRS is one the most terrifying agencies in the country, they can destroy your life on false charges and you have to pay them a ransom to put it back together. Hell, people are so afraid of them they let a bunch of Indian and Paki motherfuckers rob them blind by forcing them to buy gift cards on iTunes. What government agency is so powerful the mere mention of them makes you do something so irrational like a run out to the pharmacy and buy $3000 of gift cards? The left and right doesn't want to lose such a powerful tool of fear. 
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Lois Lerner and Holly Paz both have argued in recent court filings that the threat to their lives outweighs the public's right to hear their testimony about how IRS employees in Cincinnati and Washington D.C. handled applications for tax-exempt status from tea party groups. 
"Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty. John Basil Barnhill, Barnhill-Tichenor Debate on Socialism1914 |