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Posted: 2/24/2020 4:20:17 PM EDT

An 11-year-old girl appeared at a gun legislation hearing in Idaho’s capital Monday wearing a loaded AR-15 rifle slung over her shoulder.

The girl, Bailey Nielsen, was accompanied by her grandfather, Charles Nielsen, who spoke to a House panel at the Idaho Statehouse in support of legislation that would allow visitors to Idaho who can legally possess firearms – but not necessarily do – to carry a concealed handgun in urban areas.

"Bailey is carrying a loaded AR-15," Charles Nielsen told lawmakers. "People live in fear, terrified of that which they do not understand. She's been shooting since she was 5 years old. She got her first deer with this weapon at 9. She carries it responsibly. She knows how not to put her finger on the trigger. We live in fear in a society that is fed fear on a daily basis."

He said Bailey was an example of someone who could responsibly handle a gun and lawmakers should extend that to nonresidents.

"When they come to Idaho, they should be able to carry concealed, because they carry responsibly," he said. "They're law-abiding citizens. It's the criminal we have to worry about."

Republican Rep. Christy Zito, who is proposing the measure opposed by the three Democrats on the House State Affairs Committee, said the legislation is intended to clear up confusion about state gun laws.

Idaho permits residents 18 and older to carry a concealed handgun within city limits in the state without a permit following a new law that went into place last summer. The legislation would extend that to any legal U.S. resident or armed services member.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-girl-ar-15-gun-state-law

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:23:09 PM EDT

[#1]

That’s badass.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:24:28 PM EDT

[#2]

Fuck yeah.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:24:51 PM EDT

[#3]

Idahome

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:25:09 PM EDT

[#4]

That's how we do.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:27:09 PM EDT

[#5]

Good for her, and her grandfather.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:31:23 PM EDT

[#6]

Love Idaho.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:33:17 PM EDT

[#7]

She'd be dead or in Juvie here

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:33:27 PM EDT

[#8]

She looks like she's ready to collect on all of the girlscout cookie orders.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:34:04 PM EDT

[#9]

Just came to GD to post this!

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:34:19 PM EDT

[#10]

Trying to use logic and reality to sway the vote of gun grabbing fuckers?

what a fucking world we live in.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:35:34 PM EDT

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Posted: 2/24/2020 4:35:50 PM EDT

[#12]

Nice!

Well done grandpa.

Need more of this, everywhere: "People live in fear, terrified of that which they do not understand. She's been shooting since she was 5 years old. She got her first deer with this weapon at 9. She carries it responsibly. She knows how not to put her finger on the trigger..."

ETA: My 8yo was waiting (im)patiently to look over and handle my new AR build yesterday. He did so safely as well, with a big 'ol smile too.

We, as a society, need to take a more active role in educating kids on firearms, safety and responsibility. Take the mystique and taboo out of it. Teach them that guns are just tools, but are tools that need to be respected and handled with care, just like any other.

The family in this story is setting a good example of that.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:37:07 PM EDT

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She should go to chat to Greta....wonder how the media would spin that story out?

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:37:40 PM EDT

[#14]

My neighbor states are getting to be much more badass than my state.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:52:10 PM EDT

[#15]

Raising her right.

Posted: 2/24/2020 4:56:50 PM EDT

[#16]

The left does it with their kids to push a narrative. We need to start doing the same thing. That grandfather is doing it right tho. Using it as an example that we aren't the problem. Not pushing stupid lgbtbbq bullshit.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:01:19 PM EDT

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Posted: 2/24/2020 5:02:25 PM EDT

[#18]

Impressive, the mandalorian reference is perfect.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:04:58 PM EDT

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I grew up in a house with no locked firearms. I was made to understand the rules and abide by them. Was told a firearm is a weapon of last resort in a defensive situation. It was my first taste of real responsibility and an important step in creating an honest individual. Kids are capable if given the right values and patient instruction.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:05:10 PM EDT

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The hand on her shoulder in the pic makes grandpa look like "don't whack that into the table too hard, sweetie, you'll bump your elevation dial..."

I fully approve. And yes, freedom is scary for some.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:11:04 PM EDT

[#21]

Badass!

But utterly horrible optics that the left will capitalize on. I wouldn't be surprised to see that pic show up in some Moms Demanding Action propaganda.
"These right wing gun extremists want to arm children....CHILDREN!!!!"

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:14:00 PM EDT

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But utterly horrible optics that the left will capitalize on. I wouldn't be surprised to see that pic show up in some Moms Demanding Action propaganda.
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Anybody paying attention doesn't give a shit about optics. Optics just like racists don't mean shit really anymore.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:16:59 PM EDT

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Badass!

But utterly horrible optics that the left will capitalize on. I wouldn't be surprised to see that pic show up in some Moms Demanding Action propaganda.
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Oh, this shit again

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:20:39 PM EDT

[#24]

Get strapped and get ice cream!

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:20:50 PM EDT

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Anybody paying attention doesn't give a shit about optics. Optics just like racists don't mean shit really anymore.

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Badass!

But utterly horrible optics that the left will capitalize on. I wouldn't be surprised to see that pic show up in some Moms Demanding Action propaganda.
"These right wing gun extremists want to arm children....CHILDREN!!!!"

Anybody paying attention doesn't give a shit about optics. Optics just like racists don't mean shit really anymore.

Optics never really did mean shit to anyone with any common sense. When the left is against something there is nothing you can do to look good in their eyes, best not waste time trying.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:20:56 PM EDT

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Badass!

But utterly horrible optics that the left will capitalize on. I wouldn't be surprised to see that pic show up in some Moms Demanding Action propaganda.
"These right wing gun extremists want to arm children....CHILDREN!!!!"

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Hellyeah we do and they can eat a mile of dick for all I care.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:24:45 PM EDT

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Shame the article has her name in it. I guess it doesn’t matter she’s a minor child.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:27:01 PM EDT

[#28]

That's awesome.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:27:26 PM EDT

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Badass!

But utterly horrible optics that the left will capitalize on. I wouldn't be surprised to see that pic show up in some Moms Demanding Action propaganda.
"These right wing gun extremists want to arm children....CHILDREN!!!!"

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Fuck them, those moms aren’t as responsible as that 11 year old girl, THAT is what needs to be the example. They’re led around by the nose by a billionaire midget tyrant that has zero respect for them...

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:28:14 PM EDT

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Fuck them, those moms aren’t as responsible as that 11 year old girl, THAT is what needs to be the example. They’re led around by the nose by a billionaire midget that has zero respect for them...

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Badass!

But utterly horrible optics that the left will capitalize on. I wouldn't be surprised to see that pic show up in some Moms Demanding Action propaganda.
"These right wing gun extremists want to arm children....CHILDREN!!!!"

Fuck them, those moms aren’t as responsible as that 11 year old girl, THAT is what needs to be the example. They’re led around by the nose by a billionaire midget that has zero respect for them...

Like I said, I think it is badass

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:35:28 PM EDT

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Badass!

But utterly horrible optics that the left will capitalize on. I wouldn't be surprised to see that pic show up in some Moms Demanding Action propaganda.
"These right wing gun extremists want to arm children....CHILDREN!!!!"

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Children are better suited to crew served weapons.jpg

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:37:51 PM EDT

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I grew up in a house with no locked firearms. I was made to understand the rules and abide by them. Was told a firearm is a weapon of last resort in a defensive situation. It was my first taste of real responsibility and an important step in creating an honest individual. Kids are capable if given the right values and patient instruction.

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Hell, people used to hang a rifle/shotgun over their door to protect their livestock and property. They hung them over their fireplace hearths. They had glass front cabinets full of firearms in their living rooms.

Guns were always readily accessible....but hearing about kids getting shot playing with guns was seldom if ever.

People taught their kids that guns are a tool, that they require 4 safety rules, and that they aren't toys.

Enter the MSM and the communist efforts to conquer our nation. Now people shriek in fear of the mere sight of a firearm.

Coincidence? I think not.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:38:19 PM EDT

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Posted: 2/24/2020 5:39:10 PM EDT

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I hate when people use their kids for shit like this on the right and left.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:42:38 PM EDT

[#35]

Yes, but did she nick the census man like a good girl?

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:45:01 PM EDT

[#36]

Then you're fighting a one sided war. Or not fighting one, I should say.

I think proving that freedom is good and having your kid be a part of the process is a good thing.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:48:51 PM EDT

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What's grandfather's screen name here ? ? ?

He's got to be a member.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:50:54 PM EDT

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Then you're fighting a one sided war. Or not fighting one, I should say.

I think proving that freedom is good and having your kid be a part of the process is a good thing.

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I agree. I don't agree with the other poster above. Sexualizing kids is not the same as having kids enjoy their Constitutional rights.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:51:47 PM EDT

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“And see how cumbersome it is for her to carry it around, we should be able to have smaller weapons for ease of carrying”

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:52:08 PM EDT

[#40]

Awesome.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:53:04 PM EDT

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I humbly disagree.

Children are the future & their future hinges on the now. They need to be seen for what they are & what they can become: Either fearful & cowardous, or brave & courageous.

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:56:59 PM EDT

[#42]

I was hoping the new legislation restricted Utards and Texans from carrying in our state.... maybe next time....

Posted: 2/24/2020 5:59:44 PM EDT

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Posted: 2/24/2020 6:00:49 PM EDT

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Shame the article has her name in it. I guess it doesn’t matter she’s a minor child.

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It’s not like she’s a troubled teen committing assault or anything.

Posted: 2/24/2020 6:06:49 PM EDT

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I agree. I don't agree with the other poster above. Sexualizing kids is not the same as having kids enjoy their Constitutional rights.

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Then you're fighting a one sided war. Or not fighting one, I should say.

I think proving that freedom is good and having your kid be a part of the process is a good thing.

I agree. I don't agree with the other poster above. Sexualizing kids is not the same as having kids enjoy their Constitutional rights.

It is not logical to compare the two. Guns represent self preservation. Sex doesn't.

My parents taught me how to shoot starting before I could walk. I would hunt alone by 5. A gun in a rural area is a life saver.

The comparison is dumb. We had predators, snakes, rabid animals and wild dogs. We had livestock to protect. I had chores.

Posted: 2/24/2020 6:12:43 PM EDT

[#46]

Not normally a fan of using children as political props, but tbf this is different enough from the David Hoggs of the world that I'm not exactly outraged.

Seems like a good poppop

Posted: 2/24/2020 6:12:48 PM EDT

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When I was 15 my mom bought me a shotgun for homedefense after a shooting across the street. I had 100% control of it to do as I wanted and yet never a single negligent incident or crime commited. It's almost like they're objects that only operate under user input.