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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:40:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:56:51 AM EDT
[#1]
Using electric sander on blade not very fucking honorabru.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:57:05 AM EDT
[#2]
It looks pretty nice after his work. Yes, I know the original patina is lost...
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:58:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2017 12:58:41 AM EDT
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If that blade had ANY value, he has now completely destroyed it.
Moron. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:01:01 AM EDT
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What a jackass.
That sword is ruined, it was salvageable before, but now it’s trash. For those that didn’t watch, dude takes a rusty Katana and “restores it” by scouring it with steel wool, then attacking it with an angle grinder. He then sharpens it like it were a fucking kitchen knife. To add insult to injury, he then takes the wooden scabbard, which was actually in pretty decent shape, and, for no reason at all, sands all the finish off of it and restains it. The original sword now looks just like any other stamped steel Chinese flea market find. You can even see the gouges and uneven finish his hamfisted sanding left on the blade. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:01:46 AM EDT
[#6]
I doubt they buried a valuable blade in a 10yr time capsule to rust
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:02:20 AM EDT
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If watching Antiques Roadshow on PBS taught me anything, it is not to try to restore old stuff you think may be valuable.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:02:37 AM EDT
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For those that don’t know anything about knives how was he supposed to do it right?
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:02:48 AM EDT
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I suspect he's trolling
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:04:49 AM EDT
[#10]
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It looks pretty nice after his work. Yes, I know the original patina is lost... I doubt it was worth much to begin with but he did not do a very good job at all. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:05:25 AM EDT
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I suspect he's trolling |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:05:38 AM EDT
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What a jackass.
That sword is ruined, it was salvageable before, but now it’s trash. For those that didn’t watch, dude takes a rusty Katana and “restores it” by scouring it with steel wool, then attacking it with an angle grinder. He then sharpens it like it were a fucking kitchen knife. To add insult to injury, he then takes the wooden scabbard, which was actually in pretty decent shape, and, for no reason at all, sands all the finish off of it and restains it. The original sword now looks just like any other stamped steel Chinese flea market find. You can even see the gouges and uneven finish his hamfisted sanding left on the blade. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:09:54 AM EDT
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If that blade had ANY value, he has now completely destroyed it. Moron. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:10:11 AM EDT
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For those that don’t know anything about knives how was he supposed to do it right? 
It’s also very time-consuming (and, as a result, expensive). If that were a quality older blade, it would probably take a skilled polisher several weeks to do, and would cost around $2000. By sanding, and using a grinder, not only did he destroy the geometry of the blade, but the heat of the grinder likely destroyed the tempering of the blade as well - meaning that it cannot be salvaged by even a skilled polisher. 
Hopefully, as others have pointed out, it’s NOT actually an old quality blade, and he is just trolling people with this video. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:10:27 AM EDT
[#15]
That sword was never worth anything anyway.
It does not appear to be anything but one of those cheap flea market knockoffs. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:10:37 AM EDT
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I doubt they buried a valuable blade in a 10yr time capsule to rust |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:10:47 AM EDT
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For those that don’t know anything about knives how was he supposed to do it right?  Polishing a Rusty Knife |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:11:31 AM EDT
[#18]
i hate all snobs equally.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:14:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:15:09 AM EDT
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For those that don’t know anything about knives how was he supposed to do it right? I know less about steel and iron as I do about bronze but he started out “OK” but I would have been hesitant to use something as corrosive as vinegar. I would have started with a distilled water soak for a few days then hit it with a bronze brush and some 0000 steel wool, if that wasn’t enough (for iron and steel) he probably should have switched to electrolysis, or, in a pinch, vinagar like he did. Then I MIGHT have used some Renaissance brand pre-lim compound to clean up the surface, then I would have given it a couple of coats of Renaissance wax (on he metal and wood) and left it the fuck alone, display it as is. If it were particularly valuable, and I could afford to do it, I would send it to a master sword smith in Japan and have him restore it. However this would be reserved for something exceedingly valuable as the polishing alone can run $10,000+. Barring that, just wax it and preserve it. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:17:34 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote History |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:18:17 AM EDT
[#22]
Japanese Bubba
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:20:55 AM EDT
[#23]
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For those that don’t know anything about knives how was he supposed to do it right? Failing that, a hybrid polish method can be attempted. This can still ruin the value of the sword, but it is a hell of a lot smarter than using power tools on it. Part 2 Hybrid Polishing Methods |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:21:08 AM EDT
[#24]
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Restoring and polishing a blade like that is a very specialized job, and takes a ton or experience and skill. Typically, to become a good polisher, you need to spend nine years as an apprentice in japan.
It’s also very time-consuming (and, as a result, expensive). If that were a quality older blade, it would probably take a skilled polisher several weeks to do, and would cost around $2000. By sanding, and using a grinder, not only did he destroy the geometry of the blade, but the heat of the grinder likely destroyed the tempering of the blade as well - meaning that it cannot be salvaged by even a skilled polisher.
Hopefully, as others have pointed out, it’s NOT actually an old quality blade, and he is just trolling people with this video. if it was an family heirloom or something i highly doubt they would have buried it. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:38:50 AM EDT
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, but the heat of the grinder likely destroyed the tempering of the blade as well - meaning that it cannot be salvaged by even a skilled polisher.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:41:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:46:05 AM EDT
[#27]
DK will probably have to drink more next week in order to cope with that kind of abuse. putting oil on the shirasaya was the crowning glory of the whole project. 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 1:47:33 AM EDT
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Japanese Bubba edit: forum doesn't support hiragana. goatboy-san fixu! |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 2:00:57 AM EDT
[#29]
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For those that don’t know anything about knives how was he supposed to do it right? That's what he was supposed to do. *Not a made up story. I've seen it before and after, as well as the official documents from Japan. The Japanese knew the maker, when it was made (over 1,000 years ago) and even the name of the sword. Yes, the sword had a name. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 2:01:40 AM EDT
[#30]
A fried of mine had a very old and verified family heirloom longrifle. I am no expert in early American rifles, but I could detect:
1-It had originally been a flinter that was later converted to percussion by comparing the cheap looking perc lock work and the amazing original stock, set trigger and barrel work. I guessed it had to be pre-1830's. 2-It was a fine 30-ish cal poorboy by the lack of maker ID that it was probably made by a shur-nuff old school maker (religious restrictions against self braggery/ornamentation) I asked about the missing trigger guard and why the barrel was bright and scratched up. A few years earlier, he decided to pass the torch down to his grown son. A few months after the gifting, his son calls him and asks him: "Dad, I'm getting ready to reblue that old dull gun you gave me." 
When he made a bee-line to his son's place he was horrified that not only had he 80 gritted the patina off, he'd lost the brass trigger guard.  
The gift was confiscated. 
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Posted: 10/23/2017 3:19:49 AM EDT
[#31]
It was a $50 flea market sword to begin with.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 4:26:40 AM EDT
[#32]
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[Snip] The Japanese knew the maker, when it was made (over 1,000 years ago) and even the name of the sword. Yes, the sword had a name. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those that don’t know anything about knives how was he supposed to do it right? The Japanese knew the maker, when it was made (over 1,000 years ago) and even the name of the sword. Yes, the sword had a name. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 5:21:17 AM EDT
[#33]
His sword, his rules?
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Posted: 10/23/2017 5:31:52 AM EDT
[#34]
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What a jackass.
That sword is ruined, it was salvageable before, but now it’s trash. For those that didn’t watch, dude takes a rusty Katana and “restores it” by scouring it with steel wool, then attacking it with an angle grinder. He then sharpens it like it were a fucking kitchen knife. To add insult to injury, he then takes the wooden scabbard, which was actually in pretty decent shape, and, for no reason at all, sands all the finish off of it and restains it. The original sword now looks just like any other stamped steel Chinese flea market find. You can even see the gouges and uneven finish his hamfisted sanding left on the blade. I saw no steel wool and no angle grinder... |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 5:46:25 AM EDT
[#35]
Could have been worth much given he buried it for 10 years
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Posted: 10/23/2017 8:50:46 AM EDT
[#36]
It's a 10 year old sword he buried in the back yard. You guys are acting like he found a buried ancient Samurai sword found next to the dead remains of a great warrior and took a grinder to it. Geez.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:07:35 AM EDT
[#37]
Lol, it was a cheap repro.
I have seen and handled 30-60k Japanese swords, that is clearly a repro made and buried |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:16:25 AM EDT
[#38]
It was a genuine Hattori Hanzo Sword, now it's ruined and Beatrice Kiddo weeps.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:28:11 AM EDT
[#39]
From electric sander to 3000 grit is telling. At least he isn't kneeling in front of a rock.
This is probably what goes on in the back shop of "the master" sword guy in a back alley of Tokyo. Except for that dumb move of grit change. The stamp and decoration at the hilt should id the maker. I bet it's a modern mass produced blade. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:39:43 AM EDT
[#40]
Did you guys miss the part where he said "He" buried it in his back yard for the last ten years?
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:39:55 AM EDT
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It was a genuine Hattori Hanzo Sword, now it's ruined and Beatrice Kiddo weeps. But she *will* kill him. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:45:32 AM EDT
[#42]
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For those that don’t know anything about knives how was he supposed to do it right? An angle grinder has no place near any blade, except maybe a lawn mower blade. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:49:42 AM EDT
[#43]
I doubt if there was enough heat from the power tools to change the hardening, but I bet if you look down the blade you would see waves where there shouldn't be any.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:53:58 AM EDT
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Did you guys miss the part where he said "He" buried it in his back yard for the last ten years? |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:54:32 AM EDT
[#45]
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I doubt they buried a valuable blade in a 10yr time capsule to rust |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 9:58:48 AM EDT
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Did you guys miss the part where he said "He" buried it in his back yard for the last ten years? |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:02:43 AM EDT
[#47]
I'm not sure what we are supposed to be mad about?
Dude buried a cheap toy sword for 10 years, then did a quick cheap restoration and knocked the rust off to make it a usable cheap toy sword |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:05:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryHaving a fit over doing this to a reproduction is like having a meltdown over a sporterized Mauser,doing some Bubba bullshit to a completely historically insignificant Mosin or even worse insisting that it is even possible to somehow ruin a civilian Romanian AK or Glock somehow. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:06:25 AM EDT
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I would have just left it in the time capsule.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:13:51 AM EDT
[#50]
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What a jackass.
That sword is ruined, it was salvageable before, but now it’s trash. For those that didn’t watch, dude takes a rusty Katana and “restores it” by scouring it with steel wool, then attacking it with an angle grinder. He then sharpens it like it were a fucking kitchen knife. To add insult to injury, he then takes the wooden scabbard, which was actually in pretty decent shape, and, for no reason at all, sands all the finish off of it and restains it. The original sword now looks just like any other stamped steel Chinese flea market find. You can even see the gouges and uneven finish his hamfisted sanding left on the blade. I saw him use a cheap orbital sander but no angle grinder. |
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