Except not really, because Ian Flemming didn't want Sean Connery to play Bond. I like Connery, but he's not the perfect Bond.

I was really disappointed the first time I went to Denmark and they were so few blonds.  Then I went across on the ferry to Malmo and found them.

Those that have no argument throw out personal attacks. Bond is the real name of the character, and has a very detailed background based on the author who is white. The integrity of the character needs to remain. If the Bond name was a cover, you could use any race to play it, but it isn't.

Continue with the same type movies, with any actor, even using the 007 agent number. No problem, but Bond is set in stone.

Pee Wee Herman as Shaft

Or Jennifer Anniston as Whitney Houston.  

Al Sharpton to portray Barack Obama in an updated re-boot of The Manchurian Candidate.

I always thought Timothy Dalton was probably the closest to Flemming's vision. He had the cold, menacing, detached air down pat. Too bad both his movies were kind of dull.

crap.

Well, he WAS O'Reilly, Ace Of Spies once!

It's funny watching you preach about those not having an argument, when your entire course of dissent revolves around a single physical attribute of a character, which is quite possibly the most shallow argument one could possibly have involving the portrayal of a movie character. There are so many factors that are involved with the development of a character, and near the bottom of the list is race. Movies are typically focused not on how a character looks, but the arc of the character. 7 other actors have played bond, and there are very few similarities between all of them, other than race. Traditionally, Bond is a character which can be depicted by many different actors, along with different directors, and each new entry will bring a new side of bond and help keep things new, fresh, and inventive. Sure, you could keep Craig portraying Bond until he is no longer physically capable of being on a screen, sucking the entire life out of the franchise, as Hollywood loves to do. But personally my favorite aspect of the Bond franchise is seeing different people portray Bond.

I'm not saying your racist because you don't think Idris Elba should play James Bond. I'm pointing out the obvious fact that you are racist because you take the slight mention from a leaked email of someone saying "Idris Elba should play Bond" and start keyboard crusading against it, and immediately bring up Al Sharpton, as if that hollow crook of a worthless man is somehow representative of Black people, and a British Black person at that. You attribute the characters race as dependent on the integrity, but don't point out the lack of consistency between all the other actors who've played bond.

Were you this pissed off about the casting of Exodus? I mean, those were real people not made up characters, surely those are more deserving of criticism than a fictitious character that has historically been portrayed by many different people.

clive owen was supposed to be bond but he decided to make 'children of men' (one of the best movies ever made) instead...

I prefer Craig, but Dalton was pretty good.

Thank you for your well thought out and backed up reasoning, and choices.

 

I would pay good money to see Pee Wee Herman as Shaft.

I have given you the history of the character Bond. His family lineage is white. There is no racism there. You throw that word around but you have no clue as to what it means. Furthermore, you don't know me, so you need to back the fuck up with your personal attacks calling someone racist.

But, perhaps you are too afraid of being called a racist to speak the truth that the Bond character is not a good fit for any race other than white to play, because his parents are fucking white. That is cannon, in the books and movies.

If Bonds parents were black, and Bond was black, I would be using these same arguments against the use of a white guy playing him.

Notice he stated he wanted an Anglo Saxon name.

The name James Bond came from that of the American ornithologist James Bond, a Caribbean bird expert and author of the definitive field guide Birds of the West Indies. Fleming, a keen birdwatcher himself, had a copy of Bond's guide and he later explained to the ornithologist's wife that "It struck me that this brief, unromantic, Anglo-Saxon and yet very masculine name was just what I needed, and so a second James Bond was born".

Note the people he was based on other than just the author, these are actual British Secret Service and Commandos during WWII

The author's brother, Peter Fleming.
Conrad O'Brien French
Patrick Dalzel-Job
Commander Wilfred Albert Dunderdale MBE

If there is a racist here, it is you, who cannot accept that some people do not fit certain roles due to the history and lineage of the character. You deny that race plays a role in life, in this case the genetic makeup of James Bond, and are afraid that it makes the actor, the black actor somehow inferior. It is not that the actor in question cannot play a role identical, but under a different name with flair, but is that the actor, and yes, due to the color of his skin cannot play that exact character.

I would not cast Billy Crystal in the role of Paul Bunyon? Does that mean I discriminate against short people ? Of course not. It is because you are trying to cast someone in a role that has a history of being a giant, while the actor is short.

Hell, let's remake Roots, and Kunta Kinte can be played by Patric Stewart.

I would be against that as well, as it does not fit the established storyline and character development.

It would be like having a black Jesus or a black Lone Ranger        




 

You've posted a good argument, but if the series is full on rebooted, then race can be retconned.

You're completely ignoring the fact that Bond has become much more than Flemmings original intent, so using his intentions for James Bond is negligible. The series has evolved into it's own entity.

I'm not denying the fact that race plays a role in life; if it didn't, we wouldn't even be discussing this. My entire point is that there are many other issues to consider when assessing the Bond character, and him being white doesn't even register to me. But this isn't life. This isn't a social issue. This is a fictional depiction of a super duper secret agent who does secret squirrel shit. How many times and in how many franchises has a character been reimagined? Many derivatives are made in all forms of entertainment.

Why aren't you crying that Felix Leiter was played by a black man? Or Miss Moneypenny became Black?

>but Peter Pan is a Man, why is a woman playing it?
>Why is Michael Clark Duncan playing Kingpin, he is supposed to be white!
>Morgan Freeman can't play Red in Shawshank Redemption, he was white in the book!


You could keep going on about this, but it doesn't matter. The opinion of many modern directors resonates with me; It doesn't matter what someone looks like, whoever auditions the best gets the role.

All of this is accurate.

Holy shit was that ever a dumb fucking movie.

I predict that if Idris Elba plays James Bond. That movie will be the lowest money grossing Bond movie, EVER!.
It will do even worse in the overseas market!
The whole idea is just.

Can we not all agree Oasis is the greatest English band since The Beatles?

This thread got hilarious in a hurry.

fine, but don't call the character Bond.

With a little Sigmund Reilly thrown in for good measure.........

No fucks given. If it's a good movie, I'll watch it. I like Daniel Craig as Bond too.

Strange.  I think the constant replacement of classic white character roles being switched to black actors is racist.


I guess I can just go ahead and label myself a racist from the GD crowd too.

Elba is good to go.  I like him.

No, are you high on crack or something?

Brad Pitt or Tom Cruis!

But why, what's the point? You could also reboot the series to have James Bond be an angsty teenager working at a pizza place, Moneypenny as the cute girl working the register, M as the stern manager, and Blofeld as the evil customer on the outskirts of town who doesn't tip. But why go around changing shit that doesn't need to be changed?






 
 

This is just more PC stunt casting like having Claire Danes play Juliet. I mean, a girl? What the hell?

Next up were getting a black Luke skywalker.. Because we are racist if we think of anything that doesn't match up with Luke sky walker being black..



They should have rebooted the superman movie with a black guy to. I think advanced alien races are racists. Did you see the movie, there were like no black cryptonians. Wtf is this racist bigots gonna hate everything that has a different shade of skin.

You are either a troll or just as ignorant as race baiters!

No way.  You have it backwards.  You're a racist if you think swapping out a character that has been white for 50+ years, for a non-white one, is silly and nonsensical.  

This thread is hilarious.  It's a look into the mind of a liberal.  So open-minded, their brains have fallen out.

You wouldn't be making fun of  the casting if you  were in QE1's court.......

Thinking people are racist for wanting Bond to stay white...





Have you even read the books?



I wouldn't want Bond to be black any more than I'd like Captain Steven Hiller to be white

Might be the only way their new adviser, Al Sharpton, signs off on the picture.

Luke Skywalker has been only portrayed by one Actor in the movies, so that doesn't hold up.

As far as questioning anything Comic Related, you should probably pick another avenue, because comic sourced material is literally the single largest entertainment genre that changes Race, Gender, even Sexual Preferences at will.




I lol'd.

Nope!!!!

Bond gotsta be WHITE and BRITISH .........................

You obviously never heard of Jimmy Bond......the first time (as far as I know) Bond was portrayed, he was played by an American.

 

Did you ever have a chance to see her in the 70's televised version of Mid Summer's Night Dream? In her day was not that bad looking and her costume left very little to the imagination, not much more than a couple leaves.

 

One, don't ever touch me.
2,  don't ever touch me.
All I need is your obedience, and your fighting skills.

That is simply PC pandering BS....its comic book publishers

A. Trying to show how PC and liberal they are

and

B. Trying to get black kids/people to spend money on comics...

You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine

Mine is Bond is white, and changing him black is PC pandering bullshit of the highest order.

If someone wants to generate a new character based on a black secret agent, the sky is the limit, but he doesn't have to be named James Bond....

Not that version, the one from the seventies.....she is much too long in the tooth in that version......

 


 

to each their own.