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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:11:06 PM EST
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Nope. To me, they’re taking cultural/religious self defense to its logical (and historically normal) conclusion. People with cultural, religious, ethnic, and traditional similarities form nations based on their shared customs and reject those who don’t. That was the norm for most of human history. Even the Roman Empire didn’t try and make everyone of one culture. You payed your taxes and followed the law and you were left alone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Culture and religious beliefs are different. It just strikes me as funny that a country that came into being due to "persecution" is committing it themselves. You would think Israel would be the beacon of inclusion and freedom for the world. no? People with cultural, religious, ethnic, and traditional similarities form nations based on their shared customs and reject those who don’t. That was the norm for most of human history. Even the Roman Empire didn’t try and make everyone of one culture. You payed your taxes and followed the law and you were left alone. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:11:15 PM EST
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A statement is a statement. Facts are facts. We get understand how you feel. It is also obvious what you do not know or know how to do. You do more damage to your case than anyone else could. So I am going to go sign up for some of that Jew control. If you have a glitch in your finances this week or stub a toe.....Jews. Up to you. I am not holding your face to the monitor and making you type. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:12:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:The Arab people of that region were free to live anyway they wanted. All of these Jews that came to that area had homes and land and jobs before. No? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:12:24 PM EST
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Yeah, the emperor was a god king and a failure to give him his due meant your life. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:12:59 PM EST
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Disagree. He never talked about any of his personal experiences, except what he saw of the holocaust. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:13:11 PM EST
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No comment. Almost banned last time.
They butthurt and triggered just like snowflakes |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:13:31 PM EST
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As was his right as emperor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, the emperor was a god king and a failure to give him his due meant your life. Even Socrates knew that. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:15:23 PM EST
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I am sure they were not easy memories to talk about. And I will not unintentionally disrespect your Grandfather. So I will leave that there. My grandfather was an angry man, i didn’t have much of a relationship with him but I respected him. I do not believe recognizing the atrocity of the holocaust disrespects him or any others who served. WWII veterans are borderline worshipped as deities in their home countries. Even the liberals love the soldiers of wwii. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:15:41 PM EST
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The Arab people of the region tried to exterminate their neighbors and lost. Now they almost certainly have a far higher living standard than they would have if the Jews haven't showed up (compare life expectancy and literacy rates in Palestine with other small and poorly governed Arab countries that have no oil). The Arab nations do not have a higher standard of living because of the state of Israel. That is a leap. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:15:44 PM EST
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no, no, no, All men are equal.... Even Socrates knew that. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:20:11 PM EST
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All the people were Arab. So how an Arab won or lost is not for debate. The Arab nations do not have a higher standard of living because of the state of Israel. That is a leap. By logic. The cradle of humanity is in the middle east. So they say. So the oldest part of humanity is the least advanced? "During the high medieval period, the Islamic world was at its cultural peak, supplying information and ideas to Europe, via Andalusia, Sicily and the Crusader kingdoms in the Levant. These included Latin translations of the Greek Classics and of Arabic texts in astronomy, mathematics, science, and medicine. Other contributions included technological and scientific innovations via the Silk Road, including Chinese inventions such as paper and gunpowder. The Islamic world also influenced other aspects of medieval European culture, partly by original innovations made during the Islamic Golden Age, including various fields such as the arts, agriculture, alchemy, music, pottery, etc. Many Arabic loanwords in Western European languages, including English, mostly via Old French, date from this period.[2] This includes traditional star names such as Aldebaran, scientific terms like alchemy (whence also chemistry), algebra, algorithm, etc. and names of commodities such as sugar, camphor, cotton, etc" Arab contributions |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:21:10 PM EST
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Even the Roman Empire didn’t try and make everyone of one culture. You payed your taxes and followed the law and you were left alone. So WTFs going on in this thread now? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:21:15 PM EST
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That was the biggest lie ever told. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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no, no, no, All men are equal.... Even Socrates knew that. That did not take long. I am Larry's complete lack of Surprise. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:22:17 PM EST
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No comment. Almost banned last time. They butthurt and triggered just like snowflakes And if you want to chew me out. I don't know if your comment was towards me or not. Feel free. Just keep it civil. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:23:21 PM EST
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Not necessarily. Rome wasn't tollerent of new religions. Christianity was left alone for a while because of their similarities with Judaism (already allowed), but then they were suddenly persecuted. Cant remember if because it was enough difference between the two that it was considered different amd therefore not allowed, or if they were just plain blamed for what was going on at that time. Gotta study up again..... So WTFs going on in this thread now? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:24:53 PM EST
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So now we come to it don't we? That did not take long. I am Larry's complete lack of Surprise. I’m a catholic. All I’m saying is that not all men are equal. We all have people above and below us. Some of us are born rich, some poor. Some smart, some dumb. Equality is a fairy tale. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:27:03 PM EST
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I’m not Jewish. And I’m not saying Jews are the superior ones. I’m a catholic. All I’m saying is that not all men are equal. We all have people above and below us. Some of us are born rich, some poor. Some smart, some dumb. Equality is a fairy tale. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So now we come to it don't we? That did not take long. I am Larry's complete lack of Surprise. I’m a catholic. All I’m saying is that not all men are equal. We all have people above and below us. Some of us are born rich, some poor. Some smart, some dumb. Equality is a fairy tale. How does the house get its cut? Liver? Kidney? Stem Cells? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:28:23 PM EST
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Yeah so what is the exchange rate of American lives to Jewish lives in your town? How does the house get its cut? Liver? Kidney? Stem Cells? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:31:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:So WTFs going on in this thread now? Nevermind the fact that Palestinian population is doing far better than virtually every other small Arab state that doesn't have oil, entirely due to the existence of Israel. It's kind of the same narrative as BLM, only far more retarded because Palestinians were never slaves. The one historic wrong they've been whining about for the past 70 years is that the Jews refuse to be ethnically cleansed. What an outrage, eh? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:32:05 PM EST
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So WTFs going on in this thread now? Always good to share thoughts and beliefs. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:32:21 PM EST
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Some guy is trying to prove that Israel is evil because it prevented the glorious Arab-run paradise in Palestine. Nevermind the fact that Palestinian population is doing far better than virtually every other small Arab state that doesn't have oil, entirely due to the existence of Israel. It's kind of the same narrative as BLM, only far more retarded because Palestinians were never slaves. The one historic wrong they've been whining about for the past 70 years is that the Jews refuse to be ethnically cleansed. What an outrage, eh? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:33:30 PM EST
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Some guy is trying to prove that Israel is evil because it prevented the glorious Arab-run paradise in Palestine. Nevermind the fact that Palestinian population is doing far better than virtually every other small Arab state that doesn't have oil, entirely due to the existence of Israel. It's kind of the same narrative as BLM, only far more retarded because Palestinians were never slaves. The one historic wrong they've been whining about for the past 70 years is that the Jews refuse to be ethnically cleansed. What an outrage, eh? and I am talking about zionists. But many of the zionist apologetics on this board are on the attack. Jews should live in peace and so should Arabs. Where are most of the bombs being dropped in the world today? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:35:07 PM EST
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I can honestly say I’ve never knowingly met a Jew. I don’t think there are many in my neck of Kentucky Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah so what is the exchange rate of American lives to Jewish lives in your town? How does the house get its cut? Liver? Kidney? Stem Cells? There are a few families around here. All successful, and all good people. My point is we are all equal. To hate the jews is mostly projection of self hatred. A life spent to save and improve life is always worthwhile. All good people want to save and improve the lives of their people and make peace with their enemies. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:36:39 PM EST
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my Great grandpa was a converted jew. He was Lutheran. There are a few families around here. All successful, and all good people. My point is we are all equal. To hate the jews is mostly projection of self hatred. A life spent to save and improve life is always worthwhile. All good people want to save and improve the lives of their people and make peace with their enemies. To be fair I mostly reject all aspects of modernity, and am a monarchists over a republican. So there’s that. Eta: modern forms of government. Not all modern tech, economics, etc. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:37:02 PM EST
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I like this summary Still, just because a brand of idiocy is widespread, doesn't make it less stupid. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:37:37 PM EST
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Well, recently I talked to someone who questioned the magic 6 million number. (snip) Is 6 million just a consensus middle-ground estimate that nobody wants to question to avoid encouraging the 88rs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Well, recently I talked to someone who questioned the magic 6 million number. (snip) Is 6 million just a consensus middle-ground estimate that nobody wants to question to avoid encouraging the 88rs? but we know the numbers were staggering. Six million seems to have stuck and whether or not it was "merely" say, five million, it's still a horrifying number. I Googled it and the first mention of that number was by a Nazi SS officer quoting Eichmann: The number seems to have first been mentioned by Dr. Wilhelm Hoettl, an Austrian-born official in the Third Reich and a trained historian who served in a number of senior positions in the SS.
In November 1945, Hoettl testified for the prosecution in the Nuremberg trials of accused Nazi war criminals. Later, in the 1961 trial in Israel of Adolf Eichmann, he also submitted to a lengthy series of questions from the prosecution, speaking under oath from a courtroom in Austria. On both occasions, he described a conversation he had had with Eichmann, the SS official who had principal responsibility for the logistics of the Jewish genocide, in Budapest in August 1944. In the 1961 testimony, Hoettl recalled how “Eichmann … told me that, according to his information, some 6,000,000 Jews had perished until then -- 4,000,000 in extermination camps and the remaining 2,000,000 through shooting by the Operations Units and other causes, such as disease, etc.” |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:38:16 PM EST
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In the spirit of fairness, I'll also point out that this "evil Jews preventing Palestinian utopia" illogical narrative is extremely popular worldwide for a number of reasons (antisemitism, US-Israel alliance, etc). Still, just because a brand of idiocy is widespread, doesn't make it less stupid. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:38:33 PM EST
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In the spirit of fairness, I'll also point out that this "evil Jews preventing Palestinian utopia" illogical narrative is extremely popular worldwide for a number of reasons (antisemitism, US-Israel alliance, etc). Still, just because a brand of idiocy is widespread, doesn't make it less stupid. 
And again. Are you Jewish? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:41:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Please provide your source to back this statement up. Quote HistoryQuoted:Please provide your source to back this statement up. Jews should live in peace and so should Arabs. Where is most of the bombs being dropped in the world today? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:42:31 PM EST
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I quoted my sources a couple posts back - life expectancy, literacy rates, etc. Have you been banned from using Google? ;) Iraq and Syria would be my guess. Is Sunni Muslims killing Shia Muslims and vice-versa also the fault of the Jews? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:43:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Are you Jewish? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:43:31 PM EST
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Obviously, an exact count is impossible. Just like exact counts of Stalin and/or Mao's victims are also impossible to determine, but we know the numbers were staggering. Six million seems to have stuck and whether or not it was "merely" say, five million, it's still a horrifying number. I Googled it and the first mention of that number was by a Nazi SS officer quoting Eichmann: Mention of 6,000, 000 Jews |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:44:15 PM EST
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Are you? So your turn. And what really sucks is, I just found out the tuna I bought has the vegetable oil in it instead of the spring water. Now that is a real tragedy! |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:45:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Look up as you told me to. I already addressed that. And no. I am not.
So your turn. 
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:46:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI’m sure a website named after a Norse pagan god is super unbiased
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:46:51 PM EST
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Why do you want to know? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:49:01 PM EST
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How many kinds are there? 
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:52:17 PM EST
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:53:35 PM EST
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I’m sure a website named after a Norse pagan god is super unbiased |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:53:46 PM EST
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Your evasion is a yes I take it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Your evasion is a yes I take it. The "Jewish question" is the question you get in response to asking a Jew anything EDIT: Example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Sx4W2cKlU I don't like to talk about myself, but since you have this burning desire to know, I'll claim that I'm not a Jew by any reasonable standard. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:58:52 PM EST
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"The "Jewish question" is the question you get in response to asking a Jew anything"
Oh I like that! May I use that? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 6:00:58 PM EST
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"The "Jewish question" is the question you get in response to asking a Jew anything" Oh I like that! May I use that? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 6:03:45 PM EST
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I didn't say that. You did. "Zi·on·ism 'zi??niz?m/Submit noun a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann." Now. If you think I would not call out a Christian or any other group of lime mided people for doing the same things as the zionist owned corporations around the world. You would be wrong. Zionism is NOT a religion. It is a political movement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thats' like saying " I have no problem with Christians, just the ones that have a messianic view of Christ" "Zi·on·ism 'zi??niz?m/Submit noun a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann." Now. If you think I would not call out a Christian or any other group of lime mided people for doing the same things as the zionist owned corporations around the world. You would be wrong. Zionism is NOT a religion. It is a political movement. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 6:04:16 PM EST
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Do you want to? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 6:06:14 PM EST
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What's wrong with jews having a jewish nation? What is wrong with Muslims having a Muslim nation. What is wrong with Hindis having a Hindu nation? Nothing. It is all in how you go about it. And I see your Israeli flag on your avatar. Kudos. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 6:06:19 PM EST
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Yes. But I am not a Jew if that is what you are trying to ask or imply in a round about way. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 6:09:24 PM EST
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No, I just continued with the "Jewish duel" theme. Anyways, of course, this is a free country, jokes on the internet are not copyrighted ) tatzhit, You are beyond awesome. I was racking my brain to think of that movie a while ago. "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are dead" Some of the best acting I have ever seen was between Oldman and Roth. Excellent. Thanks! |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 6:17:40 PM EST
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What is wrong with Christians having a Christian nation? What is wrong with Muslims having a Muslim nation. What is wrong with Hindis having a Hindu nation? Nothing. It is all in how you go about it. And I see your Israeli flag on your avatar. Kudos. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 6:24:45 PM EST
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Can Christians or Muslims be atheist and still be Christians or Muslim at the same time? A Muslim believes in alah as their god and muhammad as their prophet. Atheist = a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods. So. I would be safe in saying no. Interesting question, as I think you already know the answer to this. Waiting to see where you are taking this... |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 6:27:24 PM EST
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A Christian believes in GOD the FATHER, GOD the SON and GOD the HOLY SPIRIT. A Muslim believes in alah as their god and muhammad as their prophet. Atheist = a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods. So. I would be safe in saying no. |
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