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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:47:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you consider a barrel burner in a hunting rifle? I mean compared to most I shoot my "hunting rifle" a lot, and even hot loaded 300rum still gets more than 1500 rounds sub MOA...You do understand fatter/shorter cases with smaller caliber bullets all push barrel life down, normally quite drastically, and yet you can take a bigger longer case and a larger cal bullet and have zero issues with barrel burner.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That line of thought is pretty much what prompted me to make this thread. I love the idea of the 270 and 264 laser beams, but in a full length cartridge that's going to be a brutal barrel burner. Meanwhile 308 is short enough that it can potentially cause feeding problems, especially when building a gun from parts. Maybe the OG 8mm Mauser is the way to go after all. Then again, there's not too much .323 hunting bullet research being conducted these days. Ah, decisions decisions. What do you consider a barrel burner in a hunting rifle? I mean compared to most I shoot my "hunting rifle" a lot, and even hot loaded 300rum still gets more than 1500 rounds sub MOA...You do understand fatter/shorter cases with smaller caliber bullets all push barrel life down, normally quite drastically, and yet you can take a bigger longer case and a larger cal bullet and have zero issues with barrel burner.. Fair point. There's no way I would shoot out a hunting rifle barrel. Guess I just started this thread as a sounding board. I really have no idea what I want. It doesn't need to take an elk at 600 yards, I have guns for that. Now I'm leaning back toward the Creedmoor. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:47:46 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 257 roberts Yep |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:48:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: First thing I'd do is not use a Mauser action. There are so many better options these days. I fully acknowledge that there are better actions out there. I want a mauser action because I just plain like them. I won't try to justify their merits beyond that. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:49:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Is there a short action cartridge out there with 6.5-7mm diameter, originally chambered for long heavy bullets and a fast twist?
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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:53:30 PM EDT
[#5]
Another vote for 35 Whelen. Ive hunted with a handi rifle in 35 whelen almost exclusively for the last 12 years. I’ve thought about building a bolt gun myself. Just a great cartridge.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:53:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FPDNNI 275 Rigby.  This. Make a classic Corbett inspired rifle. To spice it up a little make it with double set triggers. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:55:10 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Another vote for 35 Whelen. Ive hunted with a handi rifle in 35 whelen almost exclusively for the last 12 years. I’ve thought about building a bolt gun myself. Just a great cartridge. Very, very interesting cartridge. Thank you. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 7:56:12 PM EDT
[#8]
300 Sherman or the old school version 30 Gibbs. Load it with 208 gr ELD-M’s. Will be death to anything on the North American continent based on my extensive testing on pigs. Fragments well enough to kill light body weight animals but has enough sectional density to penetrate on heavy body weights.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:00:04 PM EDT
[#9]
6.5x.284
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:06:19 PM EDT
[#10]
.338-06 always interested me.
And I have a few actions around somewhere. Think even an Interarms mark x. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:06:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 6.5x.284 Now that is one badass cartridge... I bet you could put the crosshairs on and squeeze the trigger all the way to 400 yards. Maybe more. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:07:03 PM EDT
[#12]
Well I'm doing one in 45acp right now. Not really sure why, it just seemed like something neat to suppress.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:08:19 PM EDT
[#13]
1st choice would be 35 whelen.
2nd 257 Robert's 3rd 7x57 4th 8x57 5th 9x57 dies are tough to find 6th 7.62x39mm I have mauser rifles that I have built in all these calibers. The 2 I shoot the most are the 35 whelen and 7.62x39. Both are extremely effective deer killers and take cast or jacketed bullets very well. Keep in mind the mauser action is designed around the 57mm case length and those are by far the best feeding. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:08:46 PM EDT
[#14]
25-06
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:16:17 PM EDT
[#15]
I'd go 35 Whelen and shoot for making it look as Griffin and Howe'ish as I could.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:25:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FPDNNI 275 Rigby. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:30:24 PM EDT
[#17]
So in 2006 I built one as follows
Yugo 48 action Shilen barrel #7 Douglas taper (pretty heavy) .243" 24" Boyd's thumb hole stock of some sort pepper laminate. Timney trigger Timney low profile safety Leupold VX3 6-24 It's a laser and nice. But I don't really like it much, after the fact. It's too heavy. The thumbhole stock sucks when walking around unless slung. I'd never had one before and gave it a shot. Laminate is damn heavy. Kind of long and not threaded barrel. Scope is too much on the bottom end. The polyurethane I finished the stock with has turned yellowish. So don't be like me unless this rifle sounds perfect to you... |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:31:59 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 257 roberts This. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:32:35 PM EDT
[#19]
8mm.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:34:35 PM EDT
[#20]
.275 Rigby.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:38:12 PM EDT
[#21]
All good suggestions but my vote is 35 whelen
If u wanna do more machine work on the bolt and stuff 358 Norma would be good too |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:54:56 PM EDT
[#22]
.270 Win or .338-06
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:57:17 PM EDT
[#23]
It's 7:57 Central. Perhaps that's a sign?
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:58:12 PM EDT
[#24]
6.5x55
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Posted: 3/29/2022 8:58:54 PM EDT
[#25]
7x31 Scheisshammer
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:00:29 PM EDT
[#26]
I've got a couple of Yugo Mauser receivers floating around.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:02:57 PM EDT
[#27]
338-06. I even have the dies for it. Never ended up having one built.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:06:18 PM EDT
[#28]
You know you want it in 8mm. Fuck projectile selection.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:13:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's 7:57 Central. Perhaps that's a sign? I'm actually considering a 6.5x57 for my next deer rifle...one of the local shops has 6x boxes of loaded ammo for cheap, looks like an interesting round. Granted, it really does nothing my .260 or 6.5x55 can't, but I like oddball stuff. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:33:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 257 roberts Yep This ^^^ I always wanted one but i never had a good reason why. I form 7x57 brass out of .270 brass so I have plenty. kwg |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:44:07 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm no help, I can't decide either. I really don't need any more big game rifles, but that doesn't stop me.
I built a Mauser in 35 Whelen. It's maybe my favorite rifle. It doesn't do anything different than your 9.3, except the .357 bullets and cheap 30-06 brass. I can't tell you the last time I shot pistol bullets in mine. Certainly none since I got an AR-9. I'm, sort of, working on a 257 Roberts on a small ring Mexican. No good reason. I can use the same bullets I have for my 25-06, reason enough for me. I bought a 98 someone else rebarreled in 30-06. It is a fine rifle, but it doesn't thrill me. Maybe because someone else did the work? I have a few 1903's, a 1903A3, and a 1917, all sporterized with the original 30-06 barrels. I cut the 1903A3 to 21" for reasons. The 1917 might become a 458 Lott. One of the 1903's will become a 270 Winchester. Some ideas for you- Make a common caliber, maybe even a duplicate of one you have, but in a very different configuration. Like a very short or long barrel, or very heavy or light, or a very pretty walnut stock, or a high end synthetic stock, or a thumbhole stock, or wild color laminate. 7X57 should feed well, and has very heavy bullets available. 8X57 works fine, just boring. 8-06 is a thing, but seems silly with a custom barrel. 458 Winchester Magnum can work if your action is safe. It would take work to the bolt face and rails. I used a Savage 110 on mine, with a 20" barrel. With reloading, I can have a light 45-70 up to more recoil than I can handle. It kills deer no better than anything else, and generally they run for a bit. .338 Winchester Magnum is not too ordinary. It would also take work to the bolt face and rails. I have never done that work, so no advise. Nothing has ever killed deer faster than a .270 with 130 grain bullets. I just got bored with it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:51:15 PM EDT
[#32]
9.3x62, 6.5x55 or 7mm Mauser leaning to 6.5x55
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:52:56 PM EDT
[#33]
I vote for the 7mm Mauser, (AKA 7x57 and .275 Rigby).
I have a sporterized Arisaka Type 38 with a 7mm Mauser sporter profile 22 inch Douglas barrel that shoots well with 139, 150, 154, 168 and 175 grain bullets. I've never checked the rifling, so I'm not sure of the twist, but I know it's not fussy. Very versatile cartridge. Plenty of component availability. Light recoil. And when properly handloaded, can launch a 175 gr bullet at around 2,600 fps from a 22" barrel. And of course, it carries the notoriety of professional ivory hunter, WDM (Karamojo) Bell, who killed 800 elephants with a Mauser 98 chambered in 7x57 - he actually killed 1011 elephants, using several other calibers, including a .450-400 Nitro Express double barrel, and a .416 Rigby. But he chose the 7x57 as the most reliable and efficient elephant cartridge. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:54:03 PM EDT
[#34]
.270 Win.
Manageable recoil, flat shooting, ammo availability. BTW I don't currently own one, but if I was building a hunting rifle for CONUS it would be very high on my list. Kills anything you are likely to see. Second choice would be '06. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 9:55:40 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: .280 AI I have a .280 Rem. It's a dandy. But it's for handloaders only. Factory ammo is basically nil. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:01:57 PM EDT
[#36]
7x64 Brenneke
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:03:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a short action cartridge out there with 6.5-7mm diameter, originally chambered for long heavy bullets and a fast twist? 6.5x57 Mauser |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:03:44 PM EDT
[#38]
Of the suggestions offered, the following would be my picks
.257 bob 6.5x284 .270 win or AI Anything in .30 .35 Whelen |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:06:58 PM EDT
[#39]
6.5 or 308
I have a 308 Mauser and love it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:07:12 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Very, very interesting cartridge. Thank you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Another vote for 35 Whelen. Ive hunted with a handi rifle in 35 whelen almost exclusively for the last 12 years. I’ve thought about building a bolt gun myself. Just a great cartridge. Very, very interesting cartridge. Thank you. It is the American equivalent of the 9.3x62 |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:09:38 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that is one badass cartridge... I bet you could put the crosshairs on and squeeze the trigger all the way to 400 yards. Maybe more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 6.5x.284 Now that is one badass cartridge... I bet you could put the crosshairs on and squeeze the trigger all the way to 400 yards. Maybe more. I have two .284Win Mausers. Be aware, getting them to feed properly can be a PITA. FWIW - My personal hunting Mauser is one of the .284s mentioned above. |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:14:07 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya know, I like the way you think. But I'm not quite good enough with a dremel to make that work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 762x39 I'd make it like my fr8. But able to take AK mags A railed top possible offset or suck to still use ski stripper clips. Rear peep... Pretty much a x39 FR8. But no rules...I'd hack it down to 16... And get the stock thinned down to make it light and easy I'm not very creative I guess.... Ya know, I like the way you think. But I'm not quite good enough with a dremel to make that work. Get gud |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:14:25 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does regular 280 still function effectively and safely in the AI chamber? @TacticalGarand44: Absolutely, chambers flawlessly. You lose about 200 fps and gain fire-formed brass (that's how I get mine). |
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:14:25 PM EDT
[#44]
Will 22250 or 220 fit? You don't have a barn burner listed there.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:15:38 PM EDT
[#45]
7 x 57 or .275 Rigby.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:17:57 PM EDT
[#46]
30.06 the best hunting caliber ever created by man. If you are hunting elephants you might want to go with a larger caliber.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:22:17 PM EDT
[#47]
Not sure if the rim diameter meets your needs, but what about a varmint rifle in 220 Swift?
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:23:38 PM EDT
[#48]
What about 400 whelen? That could be interesting.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:24:12 PM EDT
[#49]
7x57 or 6.5x55
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Posted: 3/29/2022 10:31:32 PM EDT
[#50]
.375 H&H or 9.3x62 are properly suited for a Mauser. A gun like that has been on my short list for a long time.
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