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Link Posted: 1/28/2024 12:01:27 AM EDT
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That sounds eerily similar to the way some states have reacted to Heller and Bruen.
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“If you do the same thing your no different!”

No, @eracer it’s called context. The 2nd is very clear on the acceptability of infringement, none.

While Voting has always had basic requirements, rules, limitations, etc. if you can’t prove who you are, or prove that you even exist/are alive, you really are not a responsible person and should not be making actions/choices that harm/limit/effect the lives of others.

Not sorry
Link Posted: 1/28/2024 12:19:30 AM EDT
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Interesting.

Arizona Revised Statute


Somehow I think the article might be wrong.
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Interesting.

Arizona Revised Statute
16-101. Qualifications of registrant; definition

A. Every resident of this state is qualified to register to vote if the resident:

1. Is a citizen of the United States and has provided satisfactory evidence of citizenship as prescribed in section 16-166.

2. Will be eighteen years of age or more on or before the date of the regular general election next following his registration.

3. Is a resident of this state twenty-nine days next preceding the election, except as provided in section 16-126.

4. Is able to write the resident's name or make the resident's mark, unless prevented from so doing by physical disability.

5. Has not been convicted of treason or a felony, unless restored to civil rights.

6. Has not been adjudicated an incapacitated person as defined in section 14-5101.

B. For the purposes of this title, "resident" means an individual who has actual physical presence in this state, or for purposes of a political subdivision actual physical presence in the political subdivision, combined with an intent to remain. A temporary absence does not result in a loss of residence if the individual has an intent to return following his absence. An individual has only one residence for purposes of this title.

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16-120. Eligibility to vote

A. An elector shall not vote in an election called pursuant to the laws of this state unless the elector has been registered to vote as a resident within the boundaries or the proposed boundaries of the election district for which the election is being conducted and the registration has been received by the county recorder or the recorder's designee pursuant to section 16-134 before midnight of the twenty-ninth day preceding the date of the election.

B. If the twenty-ninth day preceding the date of the election falls on a Saturday, Sunday or other legal holiday, voter registrations that are received on the next business day immediately following the Saturday, Sunday or other legal holiday are deemed to have been timely received for purposes of voting in that election.

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16-121. Qualified elector; definition

A. A person who is qualified to register to vote pursuant to section 16-101 and who is properly registered to vote, if the person is at least eighteen years of age on or before the date of the election and has provided satisfactory evidence of citizenship as prescribed in section 16-166, shall be deemed a qualified elector for any purpose for which such qualification is required by law, except as provided in section 16-126. A person continues to be a qualified elector until that person's registration is canceled pursuant to section 16-165 or until that person does not qualify as a resident as defined in section 16-101, subsection B.

B. For purposes of subsection A of this section, a person who does not reside at a fixed, permanent or private structure shall be properly registered to vote if that person is qualified pursuant to section 16-101 and if that person's registration address is any of the following places located in this state:

1. A homeless shelter to which the registrant regularly returns.

2. The place at which the registrant is a resident.

3. The county courthouse in the county in which the registrant resides.

4. A general delivery address for a post office covering the location where the registrant is a resident.

C. A person who is otherwise qualified to register to vote shall not be refused registration or declared not qualified to vote because the person does not live in a permanent, private or fixed structure.

D. For the purposes of this section, "homeless shelter" means a supervised publicly or privately operated shelter designed to provide temporary living accommodations to individuals who lack a fixed, regular and adequate nighttime residence.

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16-121.01. Requirements for proper registration; violation; classification

A. A person is presumed to be properly registered to vote on completion of a registration form as prescribed by section 16-152 that contains at least the name, the residence address or the location, proof of location of residence as prescribed by section 16-123, the date and place of birth and the signature or other statement of the registrant as prescribed by section 16-152, subsection A, paragraph 20 and a checkmark or other appropriate mark in the "yes" box next to the question regarding citizenship. Any application for registration, including an application on a form prescribed by the United States election assistance commission, must contain a checkmark or other appropriate mark in the "yes" box next to the question regarding citizenship as a condition of being properly registered to vote as either a voter who is eligible to vote a full ballot or a voter who is eligible to vote only with a ballot for federal offices. The completed registration form must also contain the person's Arizona driver license number, the nonoperating identification license number issued pursuant to section 28-3165, the last four digits of the person's social security number or the person's affirmation that if an Arizona driver license number, a nonoperating identification license number or the last four digits of the person's social security number is not provided, the person does not possess a valid Arizona driver or nonoperating identification license or a social security number and the person is hereby requesting that a unique identifying number be assigned by the secretary of state pursuant to section 16-152, subsection A, paragraph 12, subdivision (c).  Any application that does not include all of the information required to be on the registration form pursuant to section 16-152 and any application that is not signed is incomplete, and the county recorder shall notify the applicant pursuant to section 16-134, subsection B and shall not register the voter until all of the information is returned.

B. The presumption in subsection A of this section may be rebutted only by clear and convincing evidence of any of the following:

1. That the registrant is not the person whose name appears on the register.

2. That the registrant has not resided in this state for twenty-nine days next preceding the election or other event for which the registrant's status as properly registered is in question.

3. That the registrant is not properly registered at an address permitted by section 16-121.

4. That the registrant is not a qualified registrant under section 16-101.

C. Except for a form produced by the United States election assistance commission, any application for registration shall be accompanied by satisfactory evidence of citizenship as prescribed in section 16-166, subsection F, and the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall reject any application for registration that is not accompanied by satisfactory evidence of citizenship. A county recorder or other officer in charge of elections who knowingly fails to reject an application for registration as prescribed by this subsection is guilty of a class 6 felony. The county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall send a notice to the applicant as prescribed in section 16-134, subsection B.

D. Within ten days after receiving an application for registration on a form produced by the United States election assistance commission that is not accompanied by satisfactory evidence of citizenship, the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall use all available resources to verify the citizenship status of the applicant and at a minimum shall compare the information available on the application for registration with the following, provided the county has access:

1. The department of transportation databases of Arizona driver licenses or nonoperating identification licenses.

2. The social security administration databases.

3. The United States citizenship and immigration services systematic alien verification for entitlements program, if practicable.

4. A national association for public health statistics and information systems electronic verification of vital events system.

5. Any other state, city, town, county or federal database and any other database relating to voter registration to which the county recorder or officer in charge of elections has access, including an electronic registration information center database.

E. After complying with subsection D of this section, if the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections matches the applicant with information that verifies the applicant is a United States citizen, is otherwise qualified as prescribed by section 16-101 and has met the other requirements of this section, the applicant shall be properly registered. If the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections matches the applicant with information that the applicant is not a United States citizen, the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall reject the application, notify the applicant that the application was rejected because the applicant is not a United States citizen and forward the application to the county attorney and attorney general for investigation.  If the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections is unable to match the applicant with appropriate citizenship information, the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall notify the applicant that the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections could not verify that the applicant is a United States citizen and that the applicant will not be qualified to vote in a presidential election or by mail with an early ballot in any election until satisfactory evidence of citizenship is provided.

F. The county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall record the efforts made to verify an applicant's citizenship status as prescribed in subsections D and E of this section.  If the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections fails to attempt to verify the citizenship status of an applicant pursuant to subsections D and E of this section and the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections knowingly causes the applicant to be registered and it is later determined that the applicant was not a United States citizen at the time of registration, the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections is guilty of a class 6 felony.

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16-127. Federal only voters; early ballot; eligibility; exemption

A. Notwithstanding any other law:

1. A person who has registered to vote and who has not provided satisfactory evidence of citizenship as prescribed by section 16-166 is not eligible to vote in presidential elections.

2. A person who has not provided satisfactory evidence of citizenship pursuant to section 16-166 and who is eligible to vote only for federal offices is not eligible to receive an early ballot by mail.

B. This section does not apply to an absent uniformed services voter or overseas voter as defined in the uniformed and overseas citizens absentee voting act (P.L. 99-410; 100 Stat. 924; 52 United States Code section 20310), as amended by the Ronald W. Reagan national defense authorization act for fiscal year 2005 (P.L. 108-375).



Somehow I think the article might be wrong.


Too late. I'm already angry and that's a lot of words.
Link Posted: 1/28/2024 12:23:38 AM EDT
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My sentiments exactly.  Why are we paying taxes when an illegal can exercise the rights of a citizen?
Link Posted: 1/28/2024 8:17:43 AM EDT
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“If you do the same thing your no different!”

No, @eracer it’s called context. The 2nd is very clear on the acceptability of infringement, none.

While Voting has always had basic requirements, rules, limitations, etc. if you can’t prove who you are, or prove that you even exist/are alive, you really are not a responsible person and should not be making actions/choices that harm/limit/effect the lives of others.

Not sorry
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Congress shall make no law...

States have been incrementally infringing for decades.  SCOTUS has historically failed to limit those infringements, either by refusing to hear cases (Protect Illinois Community Act) or by intentionally limiting the scope of a ruling (District of Columbia vs. Heller, in which the court did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment's protections are incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.)

I believe in the supremacy of the Bill of Rights.  I also know that voting in state and local elections is not a right explicitly protected by the US Constitution.

But in this case, 'context' is a crutch that justifies ex post facto refusal to follow a decision, while condemning others who do the same.
Link Posted: 1/28/2024 8:58:00 AM EDT
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