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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:41:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yucca will most likely not happen. They loved the fed money during the studies, then are trying to back out. I'm OK with above ground storage. The whole thing just pisses me off. 20 years of work on this issue.... Fucking done, and don't want to arock myself... I agree, but I much favor shallow UG storage. |
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Posted: 4/9/2022 11:47:04 PM EDT
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This nuclear waste nonsense really is going to be a nothing burger in a few years.
Elon's starship can hand 1200 tons and the USA has about 90,000 tons of waste. That's only 75 missions to yeet the nuke crap into space to get rid of it. Launch that shit at uranus, I don't care |
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Posted: 4/10/2022 12:06:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brought to you, by Carl's Jr. Carl's Jr. "Fuck you, I'm eating!" |
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Posted: 4/10/2022 12:07:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This nuclear waste nonsense really is going to be a nothing burger in a few years. Elon's starship can hand 1200 tons and the USA has about 90,000 tons of waste. That's only 75 missions to yeet the nuke crap into space to get rid of it. Launch that shit at uranus, I don't care You had me at uranus. |
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Posted: 4/10/2022 12:30:01 AM EDT
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Put it in boxes with Apple and Adidas logos on it, and set them on the east side of Mariupol for the Ruskies to take home as spoils.
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Posted: 4/11/2022 11:39:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This nuclear waste nonsense really is going to be a nothing burger in a few years. Elon's starship can hand 1200 tons and the USA has about 90,000 tons of waste. That's only 75 missions to yeet the nuke crap into space to get rid of it. Launch that shit at uranus, I don't care One launch failure, and it's Chernobyl times a hundred, though. |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 11:51:02 AM EDT
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I'll just leave this here.
 We Solved Nuclear Waste Decades Ago Yes he can be a bit of a doomer. Yes he thinks human cause climate change is real, but at least he thinks nuclear power is the way to go. |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 11:53:05 AM EDT
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Meh.
Send it to goddamn New Jersey with the toxic waste & medical waste, like everyone else does… |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 11:55:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Launch it into the sun Just make sure to get it right...............  Early days of the space age - Rocket Failures  OOPS!
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Posted: 4/11/2022 11:58:08 AM EDT
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The earth is mostly made of molten core - Made hot by radioactivity - Why is there any controversy at all about burying radioactive waste in the ground - Largely due to public ignorance and fear mongering.
Guns is only one topic the media complete mis-represents - nearly any topic they screw up deliberately or out of ignorance. |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 12:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How hard would it be to get it into space? Rockets are a no go, we all know how bad that could end up if one exploded, so lets have a conversation... There must be a way to "sling" into space... OR... could you in theory, with a long enough cable attached to something already in orbit drag it into space? Im just a drunk redneck, but I made a few potato guns as a kid, so I can keep up... Space yeeting radioactive waste  
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Posted: 4/11/2022 12:27:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree, but I much favor shallow UG storage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yucca will most likely not happen. They loved the fed money during the studies, then are trying to back out. I'm OK with above ground storage. The whole thing just pisses me off. 20 years of work on this issue.... Fucking done, and don't want to arock myself... I agree, but I much favor shallow UG storage. Above ground makes being targeted and destroyed during conflict much moee likely. Bury it deep |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 12:54:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One launch failure, and it's Chernobyl times a hundred, though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This nuclear waste nonsense really is going to be a nothing burger in a few years. Elon's starship can hand 1200 tons and the USA has about 90,000 tons of waste. That's only 75 missions to yeet the nuke crap into space to get rid of it. Launch that shit at uranus, I don't care One launch failure, and it's Chernobyl times a hundred, though. then launch somewhere far away |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:00:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The earth is mostly made of molten core - Made hot by radioactivity - Why is there any controversy at all about burying radioactive waste in the ground - Largely due to public ignorance and fear mongering. Guns is only one topic the media complete mis-represents - nearly any topic they screw up deliberately or out of ignorance. Burying something 500 feet down is a far cry from burying it 500 miles down. Just saying. |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:02:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: then launch somewhere far away Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This nuclear waste nonsense really is going to be a nothing burger in a few years. Elon's starship can hand 1200 tons and the USA has about 90,000 tons of waste. That's only 75 missions to yeet the nuke crap into space to get rid of it. Launch that shit at uranus, I don't care One launch failure, and it's Chernobyl times a hundred, though. then launch somewhere far away Far away...from Earth? 
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Above ground makes being targeted and destroyed during conflict much moee likely. Bury it deep Not deep. It needs to be shallow enough that conventional excavation methods can retrieve it if necessary. But deep enough to avoid natural disasters - flood, earthquake, tornado, etc. - and sabotage. Shallower also avoids most groundwater issues, and makes monitoring much simpler and cheaper |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:22:20 PM EDT
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Has any research been done on how to speed it up? If so, what was the outcome and what were the challenges?
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:25:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not deep. It needs to be shallow enough that conventional excavation methods can retrieve it if necessary. But deep enough to avoid natural disasters - flood, earthquake, tornado, etc. - and sabotage. Shallower also avoids most groundwater issues, and makes monitoring much simpler and cheaper Water is apparently a bigger problem for long term storage than geologic instability. Which lasts longer? The mountains or the sea? |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:28:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The need to label the waste site for 87 thousand years is stupid. Label it well enough for 200 and redo it in 150. If there's some event so bad we lose all language and every person with the knowledge of the glowy bad bad things are so screwed that someone digging up and liking a spent fuel rod is a low level worry at best Ding ding ding. If waste is buried a few thousand feet down, anyone with the capability to unbury it has already figured out what radiation is, and would know what they found as soon as they dig into it. It's literally about the dumbest possible concern imaginable in energy production. Encase in ceramic/concrete, store a few thousand feet down in a salt dome or geologically stable area. The really hot stuff doesn't last 200,000 years anyways. |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Air drop it over Moscow. WHAT if the winds go north-west ? 
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:40:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Water is apparently a bigger problem for long term storage than geologic instability. Which lasts longer? The mountains or the sea? The elev. of the waste storage site will ensure that seawater intrusion will not be a problem for hundreds of thousands of years, at least. It's not going to be anywhere near the coast, or a major body of water. |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 1:46:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Drop it into a subduction zone. ^^^^BINGO!!! |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 2:17:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Far away...from Earth? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This nuclear waste nonsense really is going to be a nothing burger in a few years. Elon's starship can hand 1200 tons and the USA has about 90,000 tons of waste. That's only 75 missions to yeet the nuke crap into space to get rid of it. Launch that shit at uranus, I don't care One launch failure, and it's Chernobyl times a hundred, though. then launch somewhere far away Far away...from Earth? antartica |
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Posted: 4/11/2022 7:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ding ding ding. If waste is buried a few thousand feet down, anyone with the capability to unbury it has already figured out what radiation is, and would know what they found as soon as they dig into it. It's literally about the dumbest possible concern imaginable in energy production. Encase in ceramic/concrete, store a few thousand feet down in a salt dome or geologically stable area. The really hot stuff doesn't last 200,000 years anyways. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The need to label the waste site for 87 thousand years is stupid. Label it well enough for 200 and redo it in 150. If there's some event so bad we lose all language and every person with the knowledge of the glowy bad bad things are so screwed that someone digging up and liking a spent fuel rod is a low level worry at best Ding ding ding. If waste is buried a few thousand feet down, anyone with the capability to unbury it has already figured out what radiation is, and would know what they found as soon as they dig into it. It's literally about the dumbest possible concern imaginable in energy production. Encase in ceramic/concrete, store a few thousand feet down in a salt dome or geologically stable area. The really hot stuff doesn't last 200,000 years anyways.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 5:59:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The need to label the waste site for 87 thousand years is stupid. Label it well enough for 200 and redo it in 150. If there's some event so bad we lose all language and every person with the knowledge of the glowy bad bad things are so screwed that someone digging up and liking a spent fuel rod is a low level worry at best Ding ding ding. If waste is buried a few thousand feet down, anyone with the capability to unbury it has already figured out what radiation is, and would know what they found as soon as they dig into it. It's literally about the dumbest possible concern imaginable in energy production. Encase in ceramic/concrete, store a few thousand feet down in a salt dome or geologically stable area. The really hot stuff doesn't last 200,000 years anyways. We have plenty salt domes down here in geologically stable areas. That are also easily accusable by water. So, technically it would be super easy and safe to load a barge with the waste and bring it down here. You also don't have to worry about hurricanes because the salt domes are deep |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 6:50:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have plenty salt domes down here in geologically stable areas. That are also easily accusable by water. So, technically it would be super easy and safe to load a barge with the waste and bring it down here. You also don't have to worry about hurricanes because the salt domes are deep Avery Island just shut down. Yeet some of that stuff down the shaft... |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 10:53:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Avery Island just shut down. Yeet some of that stuff down the shaft... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We have plenty salt domes down here in geologically stable areas. That are also easily accusable by water. So, technically it would be super easy and safe to load a barge with the waste and bring it down here. You also don't have to worry about hurricanes because the salt domes are deep Avery Island just shut down. Yeet some of that stuff down the shaft... Hells yeah, plenty of room in there and super easy water access  The Firm - Radioactive |
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